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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
October 31 2012 08:10 GMT
#301
On October 31 2012 14:49 Yenticha wrote:
I (obviously) haven't read every single post in this thread but... how is Haiti doing?
Even searching "haiti sandy" gives me 95% of hits about US, NYC,...
Only got this:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012103075846181519.html

Sounds pretty bad. Yet all I can read about on news websites/facebook/teamliquid is "no electricity for 24 hours, my laptop is dying!" or "no subway for days!". Am I the only one being disappointed by how the media are covering this?


You have to understand New York mentality... they generally don't realize that anything exists outside of New York.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 31 2012 08:44 GMT
#302
On October 31 2012 17:10 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 14:49 Yenticha wrote:
I (obviously) haven't read every single post in this thread but... how is Haiti doing?
Even searching "haiti sandy" gives me 95% of hits about US, NYC,...
Only got this:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012103075846181519.html

Sounds pretty bad. Yet all I can read about on news websites/facebook/teamliquid is "no electricity for 24 hours, my laptop is dying!" or "no subway for days!". Am I the only one being disappointed by how the media are covering this?


You have to understand New York mentality... they generally don't realize that anything exists outside of New York.


You're wrong. They at least know a place called Boston exists and that it sucks.

Most people I know in northern NJ lost power, and it's supposed to be freezing there tonight. No heat or electricity when it's cold in NJ...no thanks. D:
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Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 09:07:04
October 31 2012 09:06 GMT
#303
North Jersey resident here. My power just came back on a few hours ago and a good bit of my town is still flooded, but so far the cleanup is going very well.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 31 2012 09:22 GMT
#304
Buddies at Rutgers have the entire week off, but many without power / internet / clean water. + Show Spoiler +
Not sure if jealous or not xD
:)
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
October 31 2012 12:14 GMT
#305
On October 31 2012 18:22 synapse wrote:
Buddies at Rutgers have the entire week off, but many without power / internet / clean water. + Show Spoiler +
Not sure if jealous or not xD


Missing a week of Uni only means more work *shudder*
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19063 Posts
October 31 2012 13:42 GMT
#306
On October 31 2012 15:16 KwarK wrote:
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On October 31 2012 09:35 czylu wrote:
On October 31 2012 09:18 Black Gun wrote:
On October 31 2012 07:58 Kibibit wrote:
On October 31 2012 06:08 happyft wrote:
Coned said power will be back in 3-4 days

LIPA on the other hand has said 7-10 days, maybe longer. Cuomo has said that he's keeping an eye on LIPA especially given its terrible track record of taking weeks to restore power in the past, and has authorized PSC to watch over LIPA's efforts.

The notion of 90% of Long Island without power for over a week and a half is frankly ridiculous. I guess I'll be commuting to queens every day just to get my work done.

Jesus fuck, man. Hopefully the watchdogs keep them in line, because that's just insane.

vouch. 10 days without power, are you kidding me? whenever i hear about electricity companies in the US, its horrible.

this reminds me of a colleague from pakistan who told me of power outages happening every 2 or so days, but usually only lasting for some few hours. basically, LIPA says they need longer to restore power than some obscure third world country electricity provider.


Did you see that transformer explosion in nyc? This isn't some shoddy electric system in Pakistan that you can fix with some gum and rubberbands, they need to go out and reconstruct every downed pole and energy line. Last year Irene destroyed my town and it took 11 days to finally restore power because there were just so many trees down.

In fairness it took about 6 days for the Japanese to rebuild a motorway that got smashed by the earthquake, if you really throw resources at this kind of shit it can get done.

Japan has been dealing with earthquakes for a few thousand years and has had a lot of practice. NYC hasn't spent a lot of time with hurricanes.
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Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
October 31 2012 13:43 GMT
#307
Day #3 without power however glad to be back in school. Mandarin gives me something to focus other than StarCraft. Let's hope when I get home however there will be power .
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
October 31 2012 14:36 GMT
#308
Almost 3 full days for me without power, as well. There is power on one road a short drive away so I might take advantage of it if they are selling any food.

I understand it will take lipa a while to fix everything, but as far as I can tell they have still given out zero info about the restoration process. That is what frustrates me.
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
October 31 2012 14:40 GMT
#309
Kings park and Babylon have power, so it's happening. It will come soon!
happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
October 31 2012 15:28 GMT
#310
On October 31 2012 23:36 micronesia wrote:
Almost 3 full days for me without power, as well. There is power on one road a short drive away so I might take advantage of it if they are selling any food.

I understand it will take lipa a while to fix everything, but as far as I can tell they have still given out zero info about the restoration process. That is what frustrates me.


Just heard on 1010 WINS radio an interview of the COO of LIPA where he said they managed to restore power to nearly every hospital and repaired half of the downed substations (1/3rd of substations were out) and began work restoring transmission arrays. The outages went from 940k to 870k this morning, and he estimated as much as 30-35% of outages could be restored over the next 48-60hrs when all the substations and transmission arrays come back online. That's all he was willing to say at that point, they're still doing a lot of assessment on the southern parts of LI which were hit the hardest.

I personally saw several blocks come back with power last night -- namely the blocks around the hospital and a few major intersections. I imagine once the substations and transmission arrays are back on, though, they'll just have to go block by block fixing power lines :T So who knows ... it might take 10 days after all. I mean, at this rate of 70k/day, that's 15 days.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 31 2012 17:09 GMT
#311
Some of the photos from Sandy.

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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44391 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 17:38:29
October 31 2012 17:37 GMT
#312
On October 31 2012 17:44 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 17:10 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On October 31 2012 14:49 Yenticha wrote:
I (obviously) haven't read every single post in this thread but... how is Haiti doing?
Even searching "haiti sandy" gives me 95% of hits about US, NYC,...
Only got this:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012103075846181519.html

Sounds pretty bad. Yet all I can read about on news websites/facebook/teamliquid is "no electricity for 24 hours, my laptop is dying!" or "no subway for days!". Am I the only one being disappointed by how the media are covering this?


You have to understand New York mentality... they generally don't realize that anything exists outside of New York.


You're wrong. They at least know a place called Boston exists and that it sucks.

Most people I know in northern NJ lost power, and it's supposed to be freezing there tonight. No heat or electricity when it's cold in NJ...no thanks. D:


It's really not cold in NJ at the moment, so we're fortunate. If this had happened during the winter for us, we would have been whining our asses off ^^ Those of us with power (including myself) don't even have the heat on.

On October 31 2012 18:22 synapse wrote:
Buddies at Rutgers have the entire week off, but many without power / internet / clean water. + Show Spoiler +
Not sure if jealous or not xD


We're super happy that school is closed ^^ Rutgers is notorious for never ever taking off of school, regardless of the weather conditions, despite the fact that over half the student population live off campus/ commute (myself included). It sucks for us when we have to drive through inclement weather. The only time we ever close is when the Raritan River overflows lol.
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Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
October 31 2012 17:39 GMT
#313
It's really not cold in NJ at the moment, so we're fortunate. If this had happened during the winter for us, we would have been whining our asses off ^^ Those of us with power (including myself) don't even have the heat on.

Yep its pretty nice right now. Just had to wear a sweatshirt and sweatpants to bed last night, but other than that it was fine ^^
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
November 01 2012 16:24 GMT
#314
Man, there's like four square blocks in queens that literally burned to the ground. All you can see is tons of foundations.
Then there's a shot of the battery tunnel COMPLETELY submerged. All you can see is the street lights on the overpass, and the "12 FOOT CLEARANCE" sign. Both can be found in the slideshow @ weather.com if anyone's interested.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
November 01 2012 16:31 GMT
#315
Said pictures from the Weather Channel's slide show. Something else.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 01 2012 16:35 GMT
#316
On November 02 2012 01:31 ghost_403 wrote:
Said pictures from the Weather Channel's slide show. Something else.
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This is nuts to see. Living in the Midwest we see tornado damage a fair bit, but nothing like that.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
November 01 2012 16:35 GMT
#317
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i was talking about this one, specifically >.>

micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
November 02 2012 14:50 GMT
#318
Its about to get quite cold (starting tonight) so I would love power back to get the heat going!

Lines for gas for cars take 3 hours, so I'm glad I still have some gas in my car XD
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 16:29:12
November 02 2012 16:24 GMT
#319
Man, I posted on something of the first few pages how I thought this wasn't a big deal since it was a Cat 1 and whatever and holy fuck was I wrong, just want to get that out there and I apologize if any New Yorkers or otherwise affected got offended by what I wrote. I had no idea the circumstances of it merging with a blizzard and all the other shit and how damaging it was. So I apologize for that.

However, I do want to bring some discussion to the table briefly. My economics professor yesterday brought up a pretty interesting point. We were coincidentally talking about how natural disasters affect the economy, and she said that this will probably be extremely good for the economy. Not to say this was a "good" thing, but this is going to be a massive cleanup that is going to take at least 1-2 years to accomplish. That's thousands and maybe tens of thousands of low-skill AND high-skill jobs, that's infrastructure destroyed that needs to rebuilt that makes even more jobs, that's a boom in the housing market in a few years when they get back to rebuilding the thousands of houses destroyed.

What is everyone else's thoughts on that notion? I'm not an economics major, so I would like to hear something from someone who knows a lot more about how much this disaster might give some economic benefits. However, let's not take away from the disaster that this is. Any TL'ers adversely affected by this? ;_;
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
November 02 2012 16:29 GMT
#320
On November 03 2012 01:24 Fruscainte wrote:
Man, I posted on something of the first few pages how I thought this wasn't a big deal since it was a Cat 1 and whatever and holy fuck was I wrong, just want to get that out there and I apologize if any New Yorkers or otherwise affected got offended by what I wrote. I had no idea the circumstances of it merging with a blizzard and all the other shit and how damaging it was. So I apologize for that.

However, I do want to bring some discussion to the table briefly. My economics professor yesterday brought up a pretty interesting point. We were coincidentally talking about how natural disasters affect the economy, and she said that this will probably be extremely good for the economy. Not to say this was a "good" thing, but this is going to be a massive cleanup that is going to take at least 1-2 years to accomplish. That's thousands and maybe tens of thousands of low-skill AND high-skill jobs, that's infrastructure destroyed that needs to rebuilt that makes even more jobs, that's a boom in the housing market in a few years when they get back to rebuilding the thousands of houses destroyed.

What is everyone else's thoughts on that notion? I'm not an economics major, so I would like to hear something from someone who knows a lot more about how much this disaster might give some economic benefits. However, let's not take away from the disaster that this is. Any TL'ers adversely affected by this? ;_;

Why not destroy some stuff yourself so you can rebuild it afterwards? This has the advantage of also providing demolition jobs.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
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