How are you US TLer's doing? Is it as bad as they said it would be?
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How are you US TLer's doing? Is it as bad as they said it would be? User was warned for this post | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:33 jdseemoreglass wrote: ^ I think it's scarier watching all that land in the background turn brown. Irene was August, this is end October. That could be the reason, autumn vs. summer. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=378790 Has tons of pics ![]() | ||
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It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:28 Hokay wrote: What are some good internet stream coverages? I have no t.v -.- Youtube stream | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. Geez listen to Mr tough C**t here. | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. So it is all media hype again? I really dont know. | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. GEE maybe because, and let's not pull anyones card here but you're full of shit, the housing requirements and zoning laws for New England differ wildly from the ones in Florida! Go count how many houses are on stilts in New York. Go. Right now. Count em up. | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. Storm irene did damages for 19 billion and this one is 10 times its size. This will be devestating. | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:46 Fenrax wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. So it is all media hype again? I really dont know. From what ive seen so far, i don't think this is gonna be all hype. I think there will be a good case of flooding damage and wind damage at the very least. This is much bigger than irene. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
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On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. Pretty much this... I haven't exactly lived through a hurricane before(Live in Ontario all my life) but you don't have to live through one to look at this and realize it's not THAT big of a deal.... I saw people lining up outside a grocery store to stock up on supplies today for fuck sake... I really blame the media on this, they hyped the living shit out of a glorified thunder storm and got people freaking the fuck out over nothing -.- Makes me kind of sad to see how easily people are scared by shit like this. News proclaims a catastrophe and every one craps there pants and panics without even thinking. | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:46 Typhoon1789 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. Geez listen to Mr tough C**t here. no need for that comment......hes actually 100% right. take it from someone else who has lived in Miami for 19 years. this is nothing but a shit ton of water. It really is mostly media hype, and its costing the country about 10 billion a day. a cat 1 is nada. Certainly not conditions to be driving in, or walking around outside in, but u can sleep through it quite comfortably... | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:52 MooMooMugi wrote: Why do they always give Hurricanes female names? Katrina, Sandy, ??? Because there like females? ;D | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:52 MooMooMugi wrote: Why do they always give Hurricanes female names? Katrina, Sandy, ??? andrew has still been one of the worst :/ | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:53 Draconicfire wrote: Saw this picture on Facebook today. Not sure if legit. ![]() It's fake. The maker said it's fake. | ||
brian
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Pretty ironic that all the tragic ones in recent memory are female Ike being an exception. | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. it would be pretty much the same thing if Florida got 1 inch of snow (e.g. ppl freaking the fuck out). To us in the upper NE, 3 feet of snow won't even register as scary to me. It's all about how often it happens, and how prepared you are to deal with it. Edit: also I was in NYC when Irene hit last year, and it was laughable. | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:52 MooMooMugi wrote: Why do they always give Hurricanes female names? Katrina, Sandy, ??? They use male and female. The worst hurricane I've been through was named Charlie. | ||
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KENSINGTON, Md. — The projected storm surge from Hurricane Sandy is a "worst case scenario" with devastating waves and tides predicted for the highly populated New York City metro area, government forecasters said Sunday. The more they observe it, the more the experts worry about the water — which usually kills and does more damage than winds in hurricanes. In this case, seas will be amped up by giant waves and full-moon-powered high tides. That will combine with drenching rains, triggering inland flooding as the hurricane merges with a winter storm system that will worsen it and hold it in place for days. Louis Uccellini, environmental prediction chief for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, told The Associated Press that given Sandy's due east-to-west track into New Jersey, that puts the worst of the storm surge just north in New York City, Long Island and northern New Jersey. "Yes, this is the worst case scenario," he said. In a measurement of pure kinetic energy, NOAA's hurricane research division on Sunday ranked the surge and wave "destruction potential" for Sandy — just the hurricane, not the hybrid storm it will eventually become — at 5.8 on a 0 to 6 scale. The damage expected from winds will be far less, experts said. Weather Underground meteorologist Jeff Masters says that surge destruction potential number is a record and it's due to the storm's massive size. "You have a lot of wind acting over a long distance of water for hundreds of miles" and that piles the storm surge up when it finally comes ashore, Masters said. Even though it doesn't pack much power in maximum wind speed, the tremendous size of Sandy — more than 1,000 miles across with tropical storm force winds — adds to the pummelling power when it comes ashore, he said. The storm surge energy numbers are bigger than the deadly 2005 Hurricane Katrina, but that can be misleading. Katrina's destruction was concentrated in a small area, making it much worse, Masters said. Sandy's storm surge energy is spread over a wider area. Also, Katrina hit a city that is below sea level and had problems with levees. National Hurricane Center Director Rick Knabb said Hurricane Sandy's size means some coastal parts of New York and New Jersey may see water rise from 6 to 11 feet from surge and waves. The rest of the coast north of Virginia can expect 4 to 8 feet of surge. The full moon Monday will add 2 to 3 inches to the storm surge in New York, Masters said. "If the forecasts hold true in terms of the amount of rainfall and the amount of coastal flooding, that's going to be what drives up the losses and that's what's going to hurt," said Susan Cutter, director of the hazards and vulnerability research institute at the University of South Carolina. Cutter said she worries about coastal infrastructure, especially the New York subways, which were shutting down Sunday night. Klaus Jacob, a Columbia University researcher who has advised the city on coastal risks, said, "We have to prepare to the extent we can, but I'm afraid that from a subway point of view, I think it's beyond sheer preparations. I do not think that there's enough emergency measures that will help prevent the subway from flooding." http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57541932/sandy-and-storm-surge-pose-worst-case-scenario/ Doesn't sound like media hype to me. Sounds like the experts are anticipating the worst, and you guys have no clue what you are talking about because you focus on one number instead of the 1000 factors at play. | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. Buildings in Florida are built to withstand hurricanes. In the Northeast not so much... | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. clearly you're oblivious to what is going on here, should probably do your research before talking like it's nothing. It's expected to be a natural disaster. | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:59 jdseemoreglass wrote: Show nested quote + KENSINGTON, Md. — The projected storm surge from Hurricane Sandy is a "worst case scenario" with devastating waves and tides predicted for the highly populated New York City metro area, government forecasters said Sunday. The more they observe it, the more the experts worry about the water — which usually kills and does more damage than winds in hurricanes. In this case, seas will be amped up by giant waves and full-moon-powered high tides. That will combine with drenching rains, triggering inland flooding as the hurricane merges with a winter storm system that will worsen it and hold it in place for days. Louis Uccellini, environmental prediction chief for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, told The Associated Press that given Sandy's due east-to-west track into New Jersey, that puts the worst of the storm surge just north in New York City, Long Island and northern New Jersey. "Yes, this is the worst case scenario," he said. In a measurement of pure kinetic energy, NOAA's hurricane research division on Sunday ranked the surge and wave "destruction potential" for Sandy — just the hurricane, not the hybrid storm it will eventually become — at 5.8 on a 0 to 6 scale. The damage expected from winds will be far less, experts said. Weather Underground meteorologist Jeff Masters says that surge destruction potential number is a record and it's due to the storm's massive size. "You have a lot of wind acting over a long distance of water for hundreds of miles" and that piles the storm surge up when it finally comes ashore, Masters said. Even though it doesn't pack much power in maximum wind speed, the tremendous size of Sandy — more than 1,000 miles across with tropical storm force winds — adds to the pummelling power when it comes ashore, he said. The storm surge energy numbers are bigger than the deadly 2005 Hurricane Katrina, but that can be misleading. Katrina's destruction was concentrated in a small area, making it much worse, Masters said. Sandy's storm surge energy is spread over a wider area. Also, Katrina hit a city that is below sea level and had problems with levees. National Hurricane Center Director Rick Knabb said Hurricane Sandy's size means some coastal parts of New York and New Jersey may see water rise from 6 to 11 feet from surge and waves. The rest of the coast north of Virginia can expect 4 to 8 feet of surge. The full moon Monday will add 2 to 3 inches to the storm surge in New York, Masters said. "If the forecasts hold true in terms of the amount of rainfall and the amount of coastal flooding, that's going to be what drives up the losses and that's what's going to hurt," said Susan Cutter, director of the hazards and vulnerability research institute at the University of South Carolina. Cutter said she worries about coastal infrastructure, especially the New York subways, which were shutting down Sunday night. Klaus Jacob, a Columbia University researcher who has advised the city on coastal risks, said, "We have to prepare to the extent we can, but I'm afraid that from a subway point of view, I think it's beyond sheer preparations. I do not think that there's enough emergency measures that will help prevent the subway from flooding." http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57541932/sandy-and-storm-surge-pose-worst-case-scenario/ Doesn't sound like media hype to me. Sounds like the experts are anticipating the worst, and you guys have no clue what you are talking about because you focus on one number instead of the 1000 factors at play. Especially seeing pictures like this makes me think its kind of a big deal. Couple of 100.000 people without electricity too. ![]() Atlantic city. | ||
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Parnage
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Hurricane Andrew 1992: 26.5 Billion in damages, when it hit southern Florida. Yeaup media hype... right? This is ignoring this year the... 14 hours of a tropical storm just chilling over the bay area dropping rain, wind and tornado's. It also did quite a lot of damage. Don't treat this like it's no big deal, stay inside, relax and ride it out and if the tell you to evac, do it. | ||
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On October 30 2012 08:07 Parnage wrote: Lol claim to live in Florida, says Hurricanes are overblown. Hurricane Andrew 1992: 26.5 Billion in damages, when it hit southern Florida. Yeaup media hype... right? This is ignoring this year the... 14 hours of a tropical storm just chilling over the bay area dropping rain, wind and tornado's. It also did quite a lot of damage. Don't treat this like it's no big deal, stay inside, relax and ride it out and if the tell you to evac, do it. not a really good comparison since Andrew was a category 5; Sandy is a category 1. The issue tho is that Sandy is fucking huge and it seems to be moving very very slowly. Which means that you'll be getting sustained category 1 winds for a much longer time than usual. In addition, this storm is also predicted to have a shitton of flooding; which coincidentally is how most of the damage/casualties is caused. The Saffir-Simpson scale only really accounts for wind speed and air pressure; it doesn't really account for flooding. | ||
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On October 30 2012 08:12 farvacola wrote: The storm has been downgraded according to a National Weather Service announcement on MSNBC. Still packs quite a punch, but it's not class 1 anymore. I'm looking at the most current 7pm EST update on the NWS website. They're reporting sustained winds of 45 mph (below category 1), but they're also reporting wind gusts in excess of 80 mph (not as big an issue tho). Biggest issue atm is the storm surges, which are ranging from 7.2 feet to over 12 feet. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCUAT3 shtml/292256.shtml? | ||
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On October 30 2012 07:41 Praetorial wrote: I have an LR blog here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=378790 Has tons of pics ![]() well.. it has hardly any pics tbh.. anyways stay saf e guys !!! | ||
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ShatterZer0
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The worst thing that could happen is some road closures and electrical outages of poorer neighborhoods. Life goes on~ (The best part about it is that the homicide rates in cities will drop dramatically because fewer people are outside.) | ||
brian
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On October 30 2012 08:26 ShatterZer0 wrote: At best a category 1 storm. Most East Coast residences are on hills. The worst thing that could happen is some road closures and electrical outages of poorer neighborhoods. Life goes on~ (The best part about it is that the homicide rates in cities will drop dramatically because fewer people are outside.) | ||
Dosey
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On October 30 2012 08:26 ShatterZer0 wrote: At best a category 1 storm. Most East Coast residences are on hills. The worst thing that could happen is some road closures and electrical outages of poorer neighborhoods. Life goes on~ (The best part about it is that the homicide rates in cities will drop dramatically because fewer people are outside.) Lmao... dat silver lining. | ||
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On October 30 2012 08:36 Medrea wrote: Just some wind no problem. ![]() I hope that isn't your house!! | ||
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kollin
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On October 30 2012 08:36 Medrea wrote: Just some wind no problem. ![]() Bro. You got wood. | ||
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crawlingchaos
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On October 30 2012 08:04 bjornkavist wrote: Tons of rain here in southern Ontario Canada right now, I think it's slowed down a bit just now, I'm not sure though cause I'm in class. Supposedly we're supposed to get the worst around midnight - 4 am, but who knows. | ||
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On October 30 2012 08:41 crawlingchaos wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 08:04 bjornkavist wrote: Tons of rain here in southern Ontario Canada right now, I think it's slowed down a bit just now, I'm not sure though cause I'm in class. Supposedly we're supposed to get the worst around midnight - 4 am, but who knows. Gonna make staying up for the GSL tonight fun! I swear to god though... if my power goes out while trying to watch GSL after staying up all night.... I will run into the streets with an axe and kill the hurricane... Thats right I will kill a fucking hurricane.... | ||
Medrea
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2 feet of snow and all the trees had most of their leaves. All you could hear all night was the sound of trees cracking. | ||
Coagulation
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left my window open like a quarter of an inch and now my bed is partially wet .-. hopefully you other east coasters wont get hurt! | ||
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On October 30 2012 08:43 Medrea wrote: The late october storm we had last year was way worse. 2 feet of snow and all the trees had most of their leaves. All you could hear all night was the sound of trees cracking. I remember that. It was pretty cool the night of the storm watching out my window. You couldn't see anything except white, but the sparks from various power lines going down looked like fireworks. It won't hit NY for another day, but all I see is sideways rain. Which is kinda cool to experience I guess, LOL. | ||
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Dosey
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On October 30 2012 08:43 Medrea wrote: The late october storm we had last year was way worse. 2 feet of snow and all the trees had most of their leaves. All you could hear all night was the sound of trees cracking. Give me snow over flooding any day of the week. Flooding causes way more damage. | ||
DavoS
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On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. This is the Northeast. We're used to dealing with double digit feet of snow. This whole "unfrozen snow" thing that's hitting us is confusing. In all seriousness, I'm living in Central New York State. Sandy is supposed to go right over my town as it's going from "tropical storm" to "tropical depression." Minus power outages from the wind, we should be ok. The people in Jersey and NYC and DC are gonna have it rough ![]() | ||
Praetorial
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On October 30 2012 08:36 Medrea wrote: Just some wind no problem. ![]() HAHAHA The schadenfreude...it's too thick for me to breathe. | ||
Kroml
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On October 30 2012 08:36 Medrea wrote: Just some wind no problem. ![]() Knock on wood, man! I heard there is a hurricane over there | ||
saladToss
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On October 30 2012 07:54 Gene wrote: they alternate male female. Pretty ironic that all the tragic ones in recent memory are female Ike being an exception. Francis - that's a boy name right? | ||
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thank god i still have power :D | ||
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Pictures: http://twitter.com/reedtimmerTVN edit: i have not seen these pictures other places, in fact media are asking him on twitter to use them. | ||
Awesomeness
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On October 30 2012 09:10 Dekoth wrote: It is pretty much over the top of my house at the moment, just wind and rain. Of course I recently moved up here from Fla so a Cat 1 to me isn't even cause to get excited. So just sitting here watching streams and listening to the soothing sounds of the wind howling across my screens. a historical flood might get you "excited"... | ||
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Probe1
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![]() (Funnier that they're all salty bastards that have seen an eyewall and pissed upwards) | ||
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On October 30 2012 09:10 saladToss wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 07:54 Gene wrote: they alternate male female. Pretty ironic that all the tragic ones in recent memory are female Ike being an exception. Francis - that's a boy name right? It's unigender. | ||
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On October 30 2012 09:28 Thienan567 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 09:10 saladToss wrote: On October 30 2012 07:54 Gene wrote: they alternate male female. Pretty ironic that all the tragic ones in recent memory are female Ike being an exception. Francis - that's a boy name right? It's unigender. No, Frances is the female version. Sometimes it's Francine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_(given_name) | ||
Confuse
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On topic: I live in cali and haven't had to experience such a natural cause yet. I hope everyone can be okay. | ||
saladToss
United States75 Posts
On October 30 2012 09:34 helvete wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 09:28 Thienan567 wrote: On October 30 2012 09:10 saladToss wrote: On October 30 2012 07:54 Gene wrote: they alternate male female. Pretty ironic that all the tragic ones in recent memory are female Ike being an exception. Francis - that's a boy name right? It's unigender. No, Frances is the female version. Sometimes it's Francine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_(given_name) Nice. I didn't realize that was the spelling - but I do remember the pine trees swaying to completely horizontal during it. | ||
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Dekoth
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On October 30 2012 09:23 Awesomeness wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 09:10 Dekoth wrote: It is pretty much over the top of my house at the moment, just wind and rain. Of course I recently moved up here from Fla so a Cat 1 to me isn't even cause to get excited. So just sitting here watching streams and listening to the soothing sounds of the wind howling across my screens. a historical flood might get you "excited"... Lucky me I am not in a flood zone. :D Interesting that was one of the demands I made of my real estate agent when looking, No flood zones. On October 30 2012 09:28 Probe1 wrote: Funny how many Floridians all of a sudden showed up on TL as soon as this thread was made ![]() (Funnier that they're all salty bastards that have seen an eyewall and pissed upwards) It isn't that we are all salty bastards, it is that we have likely seen a hurricane or two and a Cat 1, not even that by the time it got to me is hardly worrisome unless you live directly on the coast. Now granted those people are getting shafted, but that is something you expect living on the coast and have insurance for. Now the guy who said he wasn't worried in a cat 3 was clearly exaggerating. Even those of us who have gone through a few are leaving town on a cat 3. Cat 2 is questionable, depends where you live and such. Generally worth leaving for this because everything is going to be shut down for days anyhow. A cat 1 however is pretty much a long lasting bad storm. You are going to get flooding on the coasts (see insurance and expected), you are going to get wind damage though usually not usually major and a freaking ton of rain. Beyond that, there isn't much too one. Flying objects during extremely heavy gusts and morons are the most dangerous things in a cat 1 outside of coastal surge. Personally I fear extremely strong summer thunderstorms far more. Those typically cause far far more damage for their short lives. | ||
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Dekoth
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On October 30 2012 09:55 eZmode wrote: Someone told me that electricity in Brooklyn (in NYC) is going to suspended in the new couple of hours. Does anyone know if this is true or not? Most likely, heavy flooding with lots of underground power = Temp turn stuff off. It is easier to protect the integrity of the system that way. | ||
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Dosey
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On October 30 2012 09:22 humblegar wrote: Looks serious enough for me. Do NOT walk out into water to your car like some people in these pictures, it is extremely dangerous. Pictures: http://twitter.com/reedtimmerTVN edit: i have not seen these pictures other places, in fact media are asking him on twitter to use them. People actually do that? I would just leave them alone and let natural selection run its course if that's the case... | ||
eZmode
United States52 Posts
On October 30 2012 09:57 Dekoth wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 09:55 eZmode wrote: Someone told me that electricity in Brooklyn (in NYC) is going to suspended in the new couple of hours. Does anyone know if this is true or not? Most likely, heavy flooding with lots of underground power = Temp turn stuff off. It is easier to protect the integrity of the system that way. I see, better charge all my stuff while I still can LOL | ||
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BlackPaladin
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A category 1 hurricane in florida is entirely different than one in the Tri-state area. If you've never lived in both areas you honestly have no idea how terrible a hurricane can be in the north in comparison to Florida. | ||
Kenpachi
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On October 30 2012 09:57 Depetrify wrote: How does this compare to the other "biggest hurricanes in history"? I'm not very smart. Living in NYC, i havent really faced hurricanes bigger than Irene (irene was a lot tinier and even that was bigger than the usual hurricanes that go by) | ||
Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
Granted NYC is less prepared than Florida I'll give you that but this is really just a giant storm thats gonna produce alot of flooding nothing more. Nothing that should make people go full disaster mode, unless of course they were stupid enough to build below sea level. | ||
ZapRoffo
United States5544 Posts
On October 30 2012 09:57 Depetrify wrote: How does this compare to the other "biggest hurricanes in history"? I'm not very smart. It's not as powerful as a great many that mostly hit further south, but this is one of the biggest ones to come up north, especially the flooding, the water is higher than it's ever flooded New York City before in history. | ||
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A roof collapsed in brooklynn two people are trapped. Landslide alerts for Virginia pa and md. All bridges and tunnels in and out are closed NYC | ||
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Zhou
United States832 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:14 ayaz2810 wrote: Maybe I'm just ignorant, does larger necessarily mean more powerful? I'm in central New York, and we're not getting jack shit. We're probably not going to get anything until later. It recently just hit high tide and all, so expect something to happen over night maybe? I have a little rain and such, but nothing drastic or relevant. (Binghamton here, it's usually rainy.) | ||
YoucriedWolf
Sweden1456 Posts
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ranshaked
United States870 Posts
One world trade lights are out Water reported up to the attict in staten island Bellevue hospital generators are failing They are submerged in water | ||
Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On October 30 2012 09:57 Deadlyhazard wrote: I don't leave during cat 3 storms....it's not worth evacuating unless you're literally on the coast. I'm from central FL btw. Category ones are nothing in comparison to cat 3+, it's not worth worrying over too much. You might have no power for awhile, so there's that. But you won't be getting swept off your feet and having debris fly into your skull ;p. We should send all of you pirates of the seven seas, to break the news of the victims deaths to their families. Or enlist you for a couple of firefighting watches, that would be fun, right? | ||
Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:16 Zhou wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 10:14 ayaz2810 wrote: Maybe I'm just ignorant, does larger necessarily mean more powerful? I'm in central New York, and we're not getting jack shit. We're probably not going to get anything until later. It recently just hit high tide and all, so expect something to happen over night maybe? I have a little rain and such, but nothing drastic or relevant. (Binghamton here, it's usually rainy.) Syracuse here. Got like 20MPH winds and no rain to speak of. Meh. | ||
Depetrify
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unit
United States2621 Posts
the wind slammed me down at one point though so i'm prob going to have to get my knee checked out :/ | ||
Dekoth
United States527 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:03 BlackPaladin wrote: ~.~ A category 1 hurricane in florida is entirely different than one in the Tri-state area. If you've never lived in both areas you honestly have no idea how terrible a hurricane can be in the north in comparison to Florida. This might be true, I will find out over the next 48 hours or so. Currently, it is pretty much the same shit different state. I will post pretty regularly in this thread, so if I disappear for a couple of days expect I am on the phone with time warner bitching that Brighthouse didn't drop my cable during a cat 1. :D | ||
ranshaked
United States870 Posts
Many fires going on, but emergency services cannot reach due to 6 feet of water in the road ways I'm receiving these updates from never forget 9/11 page. He is getting them from scanners. | ||
Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:22 Depetrify wrote: I am currently in the eye of the hurricane. I call bs. How would you have power? | ||
brian
United States9620 Posts
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unit
United States2621 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:30 Antylamon wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 10:22 Depetrify wrote: I am currently in the eye of the hurricane. I call bs. How would you have power? generator, a better question is how he'd have internet then again i haven't lost either and i'm near baltimore which isn't that far | ||
brian
United States9620 Posts
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:31 unit wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 10:30 Antylamon wrote: On October 30 2012 10:22 Depetrify wrote: I am currently in the eye of the hurricane. I call bs. How would you have power? generator, a better question is how he'd have internet then again i haven't lost either and i'm near baltimore which isn't that far D'oh That's what I meant, though. Power and internet are synonymous here since I have wireless. :/ On October 30 2012 10:33 Gene wrote: also, in these wonderous times, one doesnt need electricity nor internet to post on team liquid. I accomplish this task every day through my wonderful cellular provider and this handy dandy iphone What does your phone run on, then? ATP? Glucose? | ||
Maxd11
United States680 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:33 Gene wrote: also, in these wonderous times, one doesnt need electricity nor internet to post on team liquid. I accomplish this task every day through my wonderful cellular provider and this handy dandy iphone ![]() | ||
Tewks44
United States2032 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:35 Antylamon wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 10:31 unit wrote: On October 30 2012 10:30 Antylamon wrote: On October 30 2012 10:22 Depetrify wrote: I am currently in the eye of the hurricane. I call bs. How would you have power? generator, a better question is how he'd have internet then again i haven't lost either and i'm near baltimore which isn't that far D'oh That's what I meant, though. Power and internet are synonymous here since I have wireless. :/ Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 10:33 Gene wrote: also, in these wonderous times, one doesnt need electricity nor internet to post on team liquid. I accomplish this task every day through my wonderful cellular provider and this handy dandy iphone What does your phone run on, then? ATP? Glucose? I would assume it's running on a battery, but I don't have a smart phone so who knows. | ||
Dekoth
United States527 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:35 Antylamon wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 10:31 unit wrote: On October 30 2012 10:30 Antylamon wrote: On October 30 2012 10:22 Depetrify wrote: I am currently in the eye of the hurricane. I call bs. How would you have power? generator, a better question is how he'd have internet then again i haven't lost either and i'm near baltimore which isn't that far D'oh That's what I meant, though. Power and internet are synonymous here since I have wireless. :/ Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 10:33 Gene wrote: also, in these wonderous times, one doesnt need electricity nor internet to post on team liquid. I accomplish this task every day through my wonderful cellular provider and this handy dandy iphone What does your phone run on, then? ATP? Glucose? Some of us have taken the time to root and mod our cell phone so it isn't a battery draining hog. I happen to get a couple of days off my galaxy nexus when fully charged, unless I am using gps or hotspot obviously. Then there is also this lovely invention. http://www.amazon.com/Multi-Brand-Cell-Phone-Quick-Charger/sim/B0010OCOAY/2 couple that with the fact that I have two young kids and usually a holy crapton of AA batteries at any given point and well...i can keep my cell going for a long ass time. | ||
Depetrify
978 Posts
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ChiknAdobo
United States208 Posts
Edit: I received an email from Obama about Sandy!! I'm so starstruck OMG!!!11!!1!!!! | ||
brian
United States9620 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:35 Antylamon wrote: Show nested quote + also, in these wonderous times, one doesnt need electricity nor internet to post on team liquid. I accomplish this task every day through my wonderful cellular provider and this handy dandy iphone What does your phone run on, then? ATP? Glucose? naw man, I just use the battery that comes with it. That way, when all the electricity goes out an I can still post to Team Liquid. I know. It's revolutionary. | ||
Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:48 Gene wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 10:35 Antylamon wrote: also, in these wonderous times, one doesnt need electricity nor internet to post on team liquid. I accomplish this task every day through my wonderful cellular provider and this handy dandy iphone What does your phone run on, then? ATP? Glucose? naw man, I just use the battery that comes with it. That way, when all the electricity goes out and I cant plug anything in, my phone still runs I know. It's revolutionary. You know I was joking, right? ![]() | ||
ranshaked
United States870 Posts
First reported death in ny is a firefighter after a tree falls on his truck. Connecticut governor "our worst fears are being reached due to flooding" | ||
heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:31 unit wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 10:30 Antylamon wrote: On October 30 2012 10:22 Depetrify wrote: I am currently in the eye of the hurricane. I call bs. How would you have power? generator, a better question is how he'd have internet then again i haven't lost either and i'm near baltimore which isn't that far when i was younger and living in louisiana the power would go out when a tree fell onto the power lines but the cable was all under ground so the internet would usually work when the generator kicked on. | ||
`phobiA
51 Posts
1.) 90mph+ winds 2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front 3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes 4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow 5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up? 6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE! | ||
heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote: I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad: 1.) 90mph+ winds 2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front 3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes 4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow 5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up? 6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE! Wind gusts are topping out in the 60s. Sustained are half that. There are no 90+ mph winds. The real damage is going to be water damage. | ||
felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote: I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad: 1.) 90mph+ winds 2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front 3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes 4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow 5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up? 6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE! You missed the most important reason this storm is bad. 7) People in the Northeast have little if any experience with hurricanes (they are not like Nor'easters; I've been through both), and this includes building codes, power grid design, and storm water management. This is why the subways are not running. The wind is a problem, but the sheer amount of rain falling EVERYWHERE for the next few days will tax the normal drainage, and they aren't designed for it. It's like an earthquake - they happen so infrequently that the Northeast doesn't think of them when they develop building codes. Sandy is a wuss to most of Florida - but Florida always has Hurricanes in mind, we have monster storm drainage systems (some of our normal thundershowers drop 6-9" of rain), and buildings are built to code to withstand high winds. Stay safe, listen to the weather men and emergency management people, and make sure you have flood insurance. Edited in - oh, and the underlying geology is different in the two regions. There's actually bedrock in the Northeast, and while there are swamps they aren't as extensive. | ||
`phobiA
51 Posts
On October 30 2012 11:14 heliusx wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote: I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad: 1.) 90mph+ winds 2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front 3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes 4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow 5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up? 6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE! Wind gusts are topping out in the 60s. Sustained are half that. There are no 90+ mph winds. The real damage is going to be water damage. Just five minutes ago The Weather Channel was reporting 94 mph gusts in NY... with 70+ all around the coast. | ||
CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On October 30 2012 11:15 felisconcolori wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote: I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad: 1.) 90mph+ winds 2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front 3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes 4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow 5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up? 6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE! You missed the most important reason this storm is bad. 7) People in the Northeast have little if any experience with hurricanes (they are not like Nor'easters; I've been through both), and this includes building codes, power grid design, and storm water management. This is why the subways are not running. The wind is a problem, but the sheer amount of rain falling EVERYWHERE for the next few days will tax the normal drainage, and they aren't designed for it. It's like an earthquake - they happen so infrequently that the Northeast doesn't think of them when they develop building codes. Sandy is a wuss to most of Florida - but Florida always has Hurricanes in mind, we have monster storm drainage systems (some of our normal thundershowers drop 6-9" of rain), and buildings are built to code to withstand high winds. Stay safe, listen to the weather men and emergency management people, and make sure you have flood insurance. Edited in - oh, and the underlying geology is different in the two regions. There's actually bedrock in the Northeast, and while there are swamps they aren't as extensive. I guess its like if the south got a foot or two of snow lol #No power still on tl | ||
heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On October 30 2012 11:18 `phobiA wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 11:14 heliusx wrote: On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote: I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad: 1.) 90mph+ winds 2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front 3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes 4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow 5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up? 6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE! Wind gusts are topping out in the 60s. Sustained are half that. There are no 90+ mph winds. The real damage is going to be water damage. Just five minutes ago The Weather Channel was reporting 94 mph gusts in NY... with 70+ all around the coast. that's where i saw the wind map on their website =/ | ||
PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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leandroqm
Netherlands874 Posts
On October 30 2012 11:23 PhoenixVoid wrote: All I can say is that the GTA area is just being hammered with rain and gust right now. wow... even GTA is affected? Never thought it would reach that far... | ||
Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
On October 30 2012 11:14 heliusx wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote: I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad: 1.) 90mph+ winds 2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front 3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes 4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow 5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up? 6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE! Wind gusts are topping out in the 60s. Sustained are half that. There are no 90+ mph winds. The real damage is going to be water damage. Tell that to my house that was hit by one of the trees in the yard which were knocked over by the high winds. | ||
felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On October 30 2012 11:18 CeriseCherries wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 11:15 felisconcolori wrote: On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote: I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad: 1.) 90mph+ winds 2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front 3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes 4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow 5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up? 6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE! You missed the most important reason this storm is bad. 7) People in the Northeast have little if any experience with hurricanes (they are not like Nor'easters; I've been through both), and this includes building codes, power grid design, and storm water management. This is why the subways are not running. The wind is a problem, but the sheer amount of rain falling EVERYWHERE for the next few days will tax the normal drainage, and they aren't designed for it. It's like an earthquake - they happen so infrequently that the Northeast doesn't think of them when they develop building codes. Sandy is a wuss to most of Florida - but Florida always has Hurricanes in mind, we have monster storm drainage systems (some of our normal thundershowers drop 6-9" of rain), and buildings are built to code to withstand high winds. Stay safe, listen to the weather men and emergency management people, and make sure you have flood insurance. Edited in - oh, and the underlying geology is different in the two regions. There's actually bedrock in the Northeast, and while there are swamps they aren't as extensive. I guess its like if the south got a foot or two of snow lol #No power still on tl Pretty much. Snow and ice hitting down here and everything would shut down. Excessive snow would collapse houses, since the flat roof is bad for the weight. But that is exceedingly rare. Temperatures below freezing are pretty bad, too, because people don't see ice on roadways often in the South. | ||
b0ub0u
Canada445 Posts
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On October 30 2012 11:26 Dubzex wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 11:14 heliusx wrote: On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote: I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad: 1.) 90mph+ winds 2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front 3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes 4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow 5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up? 6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE! Wind gusts are topping out in the 60s. Sustained are half that. There are no 90+ mph winds. The real damage is going to be water damage. Tell that to my house that was hit by one of the trees in the yard which were knocked over by the high winds. How do I reach it? More seriously soggy ground makes trees vulnerable to gusts. | ||
heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On October 30 2012 11:28 felisconcolori wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 11:18 CeriseCherries wrote: On October 30 2012 11:15 felisconcolori wrote: On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote: I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad: 1.) 90mph+ winds 2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front 3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes 4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow 5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up? 6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE! You missed the most important reason this storm is bad. 7) People in the Northeast have little if any experience with hurricanes (they are not like Nor'easters; I've been through both), and this includes building codes, power grid design, and storm water management. This is why the subways are not running. The wind is a problem, but the sheer amount of rain falling EVERYWHERE for the next few days will tax the normal drainage, and they aren't designed for it. It's like an earthquake - they happen so infrequently that the Northeast doesn't think of them when they develop building codes. Sandy is a wuss to most of Florida - but Florida always has Hurricanes in mind, we have monster storm drainage systems (some of our normal thundershowers drop 6-9" of rain), and buildings are built to code to withstand high winds. Stay safe, listen to the weather men and emergency management people, and make sure you have flood insurance. Edited in - oh, and the underlying geology is different in the two regions. There's actually bedrock in the Northeast, and while there are swamps they aren't as extensive. I guess its like if the south got a foot or two of snow lol #No power still on tl Pretty much. Snow and ice hitting down here and everything would shut down. Excessive snow would collapse houses, since the flat roof is bad for the weight. But that is exceedingly rare. Temperatures below freezing are pretty bad, too, because people don't see ice on roadways often in the South. Kids in the south would be ecstatic if there was a foot of snow. Not many southerners have seen much snow except for some older people. | ||
Tewks44
United States2032 Posts
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brian
United States9620 Posts
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On October 30 2012 11:36 Gene wrote: NYU Hospital lost power, and backup power. They have to evacuate patients in this weather. That's pretty bad. You would think a hospital would have backup backup generators. >.< | ||
Craton
United States17250 Posts
I like that Google always manages to have topically relevant search headers. ![]() | ||
BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On October 30 2012 11:39 heliusx wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 11:36 Gene wrote: NYU Hospital lost power, and backup power. They have to evacuate patients in this weather. That's pretty bad. You would think a hospital would have backup backup generators. >.< Like most things in NYC, I would venture to guess that the backup generators are in a basement which is probably now flooded as well. Hence the backup also being down in the statement you quoted. | ||
Craton
United States17250 Posts
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57542015/hurricane-sandy-more-than-2-million-already-without-power/ | ||
heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On October 30 2012 11:42 BloodNinja wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 11:39 heliusx wrote: On October 30 2012 11:36 Gene wrote: NYU Hospital lost power, and backup power. They have to evacuate patients in this weather. That's pretty bad. You would think a hospital would have backup backup generators. >.< Like most things in NYC, I would venture to guess that the backup generators are in a basement which is probably now flooded as well. Hence the backup also being down in the statement you quoted. I dunno, it would seem really stupid to put generators below the ground in a flood zone. Especially in a hospital. | ||
Tewks44
United States2032 Posts
On October 30 2012 11:42 Craton wrote: Apparently there are over 2 million people without power nationwide. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57542015/hurricane-sandy-more-than-2-million-already-without-power/ CNN is reporting 2.8 million. Regardless, it's a lot the 8:22pm update | ||
Microsloth
Canada194 Posts
If you were a weather network, or someone making these decisions, would you "tell NY to suck it up and deal yo, cause down in FL we got mad hurri-skills".. or would you try to prepare people accordingly. Nothing wrong with taking the side of caution. You didn't have to go to school.. AND there was no crazy ass storm??? AWESOME Celebrate bros lol | ||
Czech M8
United States16 Posts
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On October 30 2012 11:57 Microsloth wrote: After Katrina, weather networks and emergency crews are going to lean towards preparing people for the worst. So yeah, it seems like they're hyping it up, but why not? Hype it up, people get prepared (or should). Don't hype it up, and people get fucked up. If you were a weather network, or someone making these decisions, would you "tell NY to suck it up and deal yo, cause down in FL we got mad hurri-skills".. or would you try to prepare people accordingly. Nothing wrong with taking the side of caution. You didn't have to go to school.. AND there was no crazy ass storm??? AWESOME Celebrate bros lol suck it up, i flew my hang glider into katrina. | ||
ECHOZs
United States499 Posts
Oyster Creek in Lacey Township, N.J., was already offline for regular maintenance before Sandy, a superstorm downgraded Monday night from a hurricane, slammed the East Coast. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission says an “unusual event” was declared around 7 p.m. when water reached a high level. The situation was upgraded less than two hours later to an “alert,” the second-lowest in a four-tiered warning system. Federal officials say all nuclear plants are still in safe condition. They say water levels near Oyster Creek, which is along the Atlantic Ocean, will likely recede within a few hours. Oyster Creek went online in 1969 and provides 9 percent of New Jersey’s electricity. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal_government/nuclear-power-plants-prepare-to-shut-down-if-storm-sends-water-wind-levels-too-high/2012/10/29/e8e5dc6e-2226-11e2-92f8-7f9c4daf276a_story.html | ||
felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On October 30 2012 11:57 Microsloth wrote: After Katrina, weather networks and emergency crews are going to lean towards preparing people for the worst. So yeah, it seems like they're hyping it up, but why not? Hype it up, people get prepared (or should). Don't hype it up, and people get fucked up. If you were a weather network, or someone making these decisions, would you "tell NY to suck it up and deal yo, cause down in FL we got mad hurri-skills".. or would you try to prepare people accordingly. Nothing wrong with taking the side of caution. You didn't have to go to school.. AND there was no crazy ass storm??? AWESOME Celebrate bros lol I agree. Erring on the side of caution is better than being caught unprepared. Then again, either way doesn't impact me personally that much - during Isaac I had to go to work. (Being less than 1.6 miles from my place of employment, and the nature of my job, means that odds are I will still be at work even when no one else has to report.) Then again, one of my older brothers was actually on a radio transmitter tower during a hurricane in Mass (I think it was Hurricane Bob back in '91) so I probably can't complain too much. | ||
Grampz
United States2147 Posts
On October 30 2012 12:05 ECHOZs wrote: WASHINGTON — The nation’s oldest nuclear power plant is on alert after waters from a colossal storm reached high levels. Oyster Creek in Lacey Township, N.J., was already offline for regular maintenance before Sandy, a superstorm downgraded Monday night from a hurricane, slammed the East Coast. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission says an “unusual event” was declared around 7 p.m. when water reached a high level. The situation was upgraded less than two hours later to an “alert,” the second-lowest in a four-tiered warning system. Federal officials say all nuclear plants are still in safe condition. They say water levels near Oyster Creek, which is along the Atlantic Ocean, will likely recede within a few hours. Oyster Creek went online in 1969 and provides 9 percent of New Jersey’s electricity. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal_government/nuclear-power-plants-prepare-to-shut-down-if-storm-sends-water-wind-levels-too-high/2012/10/29/e8e5dc6e-2226-11e2-92f8-7f9c4daf276a_story.html i live 5 minutes from there... im in philly now but wow... | ||
ruffstyle89
41 Posts
They are saying even into wed they will continue to get 45-60 MPH winds. Rain will be around for days. The worst of the storm will be over the next few days as the rain/wind just sits on top of the east coast. | ||
amd098
Korea (North)1366 Posts
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Obstikal
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vpatrickd
Indonesia279 Posts
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mtn
729 Posts
On October 30 2012 12:19 vpatrickd wrote: someone posted this, found in Staten Island ![]() Holy shiet!! Rofl that scared me rofl i wonder how these people livin there reacted o_O | ||
Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On October 30 2012 12:19 vpatrickd wrote: someone posted this, found in Staten Island ![]() I'd be like, oh god oh god oh god oh god! Take care people. | ||
DR.Ham
Netherlands621 Posts
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225108/Hurricane-Sandy-2012-One-million-power-New-York-Bloomberg-warns-city-prepare-worst.html | ||
feanor1
United States1899 Posts
On October 30 2012 12:19 vpatrickd wrote: someone posted this, found in Staten Island ![]() Awfully light out there!! Would guess that this shop, unless this happened at like 5PM. I don't think the storm surge was that high when it was light | ||
Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Demurity
United States424 Posts
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Kibibit
United States1551 Posts
On October 30 2012 12:26 Doraemon wrote: holy shit that photo....fcken sharks?... Good chance that's faked, because I've also read people say that this was in Jersey, in Maryland, etc. For context, I'm a Staten Islander. | ||
Draconicfire
Canada2562 Posts
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
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feanor1
United States1899 Posts
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
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Qumquat
Israel353 Posts
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
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vijeze
Netherlands719 Posts
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HighdraL1sk
United States140 Posts
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Killmo
China82 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44390 Posts
I live in central/ north Jersey, and our power went out for a few hours but came back on. Up here, the hurricane pretty much missed us. | ||
Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On October 30 2012 19:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I couldn't get on TL for a few hours, what happened? x.x TeamLiquid @TeamLiquidnet http://teamliquid.net is down from power loss, Hurricane Sandy is killing ESPORTS Richard Stanway @R1CH_TL http://teamliquid.net is down from power loss caused by Hurricane Sandy. No ETA for when service will be restored. Richard Stanway @R1CH_TL Looks like power is restored and http://teamliquid.net is back online for now! from twitter | ||
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Equity213
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YoucriedWolf
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44390 Posts
On October 30 2012 19:20 Nizaris wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 19:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I couldn't get on TL for a few hours, what happened? x.x Show nested quote + TeamLiquid @TeamLiquidnet http://teamliquid.net is down from power loss, Hurricane Sandy is killing ESPORTS Richard Stanway @R1CH_TL http://teamliquid.net is down from power loss caused by Hurricane Sandy. No ETA for when service will be restored. Richard Stanway @R1CH_TL Looks like power is restored and http://teamliquid.net is back online for now! from twitter Thanks ![]() | ||
Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
On October 30 2012 19:06 feanor1 wrote: Hurricane Sandy is killing ESPORTS also people | ||
Malinor
Germany4728 Posts
On October 30 2012 19:59 Corrosive wrote: also people ESPORTS is bigger than people. Which is clearly shown by the fact that the word 'people' has no capital letters, while 'ESPORTS' has like all of them (seven to be more precise). | ||
humblegar
Norway883 Posts
On October 30 2012 19:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 19:20 Nizaris wrote: On October 30 2012 19:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I couldn't get on TL for a few hours, what happened? x.x TeamLiquid @TeamLiquidnet http://teamliquid.net is down from power loss, Hurricane Sandy is killing ESPORTS Richard Stanway @R1CH_TL http://teamliquid.net is down from power loss caused by Hurricane Sandy. No ETA for when service will be restored. Richard Stanway @R1CH_TL Looks like power is restored and http://teamliquid.net is back online for now! from twitter Thanks ![]() https://twitter.com/search?q=teamliquid https://twitter.com/search?q=sandy (or http) Just in case someone does not know how to do that ![]() | ||
Microsloth
Canada194 Posts
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
On October 30 2012 12:23 DR.Ham wrote: Some pretty amazing pictures of New York in this "article". Looks pretty nasty over there, I hope everyone is safe and sound. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225108/Hurricane-Sandy-2012-One-million-power-New-York-Bloomberg-warns-city-prepare-worst.html great post. those pictures look horrible | ||
Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
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Fruscainte
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From a Cat 1 / Tropical Storm. Imagine a Cat 3. A Cat 4 or 5 would destroy the city from flooding probably. This is one of the most densely populated cities on Earth that is at sea level and is a COASTAL town, with a portion of the city as an ISLAND. It's quite literally the economic capital of the world, and it has essentially no defense against this kind of shit for some reason. No breakwaters, no levies, no diversionary tunnels, nothing. This isn't the first time this has happened too, but it's definitely going to happen again -- especially as hurricanes start to intensify if the climate begins to heat up. This was something us Floridians would laugh off as a joke, I walked my dog in a Tropical Storm before and went swimming in a Cat 2. Yet this brought an entire city to its knees, a place like New York has to take every big storm like this seriously. RIP the dead, I hope those stranded (in the hundreds now I believe CNN said) stay safe and no more die from this shit. I hope most of all though that New York wakes the fuck up and does something too. I know the North just inherently isn't prepared for hurricanes like us in the South are, but there should be SOMETHING done imo. There's just no excuse with our level of technological prowess that something as basic as a tropical storm can do this much. But maybe I'm too much of an idealist and there's nothing we can do against ol' Mother Nature =/ But let's not take away from the disaster that this is. Best of luck to any that are adversely affected by this. I know what it's like to be hit with a bitch of a Hurricane, it's just devastating. Hopefully the government handles this right and we can get back on track as soon as this blows over. | ||
nettleberry
United States201 Posts
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nikj
Canada669 Posts
http://www.thespec.com/news/ontario/article/827127--woman-killed-by-sign-in-toronto-as-sandy-approaches + Show Spoiler + Woman killed by sign in Toronto as Sandy approaches TORONTO Police in Toronto say gusting winds from superstorm Sandy were likely responsible for dislodging a sign that struck and killed a woman Monday night on a west-end street. There were high winds in the area and the victim was found underneath the sign, so investigators are assuming that wind gusts caused the sign to fall, said Staff Sergeant Bruce Morrison. “We received some initial calls from people who witnessed it, that the sign had come down and struck a female who was walking through the parking lot,” Morrison said. The portion of the sign that fell was about 4.5 metres by 1.5 metres, Morrison said. Power outages were also reported Monday night as Sandy began hitting southern Ontario, with hydro companies across the province reporting more than 15,000 customers were without power. Ontario officials urged residents to prepare themselves for roaring winds and heavy rainfall expected from Sandy, saying it could result in flooding, road closures and power failures. Energy Minister Chris Bentley said Ontario’s energy agencies are working to respond to power outages or infrastructure damage that are likely over the next few days. Southern and eastern Ontario are bracing for potentially damaging winds of up to 100 kilometres per hour and between 30 to 50 millimetres of rain over the next 24 hours. Some areas could see higher amounts as the super storm passes through, according to the Canadian Hurricane Centre. The province’s Ornge air ambulance service grounded its helicopters and airplanes in southern Ontario as of 2 p.m. over concerns about high winds, said Community Safety Minister Madeleine Meilleur. But land ambulances will be available to transport patients if needed, she added. Emergency Management Ontario is monitoring the situation closely and will be able to jump in to help residents if necessary, she said. “We’re ready for the red alert,” Meilleur said. “We’re not there, but we get ready for the worst.” The agency said people should put away any objects that can be blown away by wind — such as garbage lids, furniture and Halloween decorations — to prevent damage or injury. “The area of greatest concern is certainly around the impact of the winds, these significant winds, and the mischief that the winds can create in terms of downed trees, downed power lines and other kinds of damage,” said Allison Stuart, chief of Emergency Management Ontario. “But an even more fundamental concern is that people will put themselves at increased risk by either wanting to go see what Lake Ontario looks like in a storm or checking out the river in the back 40 or whatever.” People should try to “restrain themselves” and stay safe, Stuart said. Toronto Mayor Rob Ford said it’s business as usual in Canada’s most populous city, but there will be extra staff brought in to handle calls from residents reporting fallen trees or branches or other city-related problems. “Toronto is a great city and we are well prepared for hurricane Sandy,” Ford said. One-quarter of all flights scheduled to depart from Toronto Pearson International Airport were cancelled. Porter Airlines also nixed all operations to and from its Billy Bishop Airport on the Toronto Islands until noon Tuesday. Via Rail cancelled its trains on the Montreal to New York route and cut short its 8:20 a.m. train from Toronto to New York, which only went as far as Albany. It said it will operate as scheduled, but service may be disrupted by “unforeseen circumstances” caused by the hurricane. Toronto Hydro said it’s preparing for the onslaught by having crews ready to respond to any calls about damage caused by the super storm. If residents spot a downed power line or are stuck in a dangerous situation, they should call their local utility or 911, said spokeswoman Tanya Bruckmueller. City residents should make sure they have water, any medication they need and money in case the power goes out, she added. Emergency Management Ontario is encouraging people to put together a survival kit containing all the necessities they need for three days, including flashlights and extra batteries. Horizon Utilities — which serves Hamilton and St. Catharines — said it’s adjusting work schedules to make sure there are enough workers to take calls and restore power. There are worries about flooding in that city, which received about 20 millimetres of rain over the weekend. Toronto officials said they expect storm sewers to be able to handle the rainfall, but are urging residents to keep catchbasins clear from leaves and other debris to avoid flooding. Northern Ontario was hit by heavy rains last week, causing creeks and rivers to overflow, washing out roads around Wawa, including a section of the Trans-Canada Highway. The town declared a state of emergency last Thursday, after damaged roads left surrounding communities completely cut off. The flooding forced the evacuation of the Michipicoten First Nation when the only road into the community was destroyed by the storm. It is now under repair, police said. Stay safe everyone! | ||
ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
On October 30 2012 22:16 Fruscainte wrote: Stuff This isn't like a typical hurricane in Florida. It merged with a Nor'easter and created exceptionally low barometric pressure (945 mbar, which is right on the borderline between Category 3 and 4). That mbar number created the exceptionally high winds and flooding that did most of the damage. So, a lot of your arguments are invalid. An electrical subway system underground is going to be vulnerable to flooding, something to consider, but it's not like the MTA was going to invest millions (they're already in financial trouble) in preventing this kind of disaster that mayor Bloomberg described as a "once-in-a-long-time" storm. He probably should have said "once in a lifetime" for effect but I guess he's very exact with his words. A lot of the other effects, such as trees falling and killing people, electrocution are just unavoidable. One thing that can be corrected right away is backup generator placement, as flooding caused NYU hospital to lose power and backup power, forcing evacuation. I would say that there is an increasing trend of extreme weather reaching NYC and something needs to be done for the long term. | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On October 30 2012 22:56 Barrin wrote: I been in the eye/eywall of multiple cat 2's 3's and even a 4... (east coast florida) A cat 1 did this to you guys up there? Better get your shit together... You wanna fight about it? | ||
Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Mastermyth
Netherlands207 Posts
On October 30 2012 22:41 ahole-surprise wrote: A lot of the other effects, such as trees falling and killing people, electrocution are just unavoidable. One thing that can be corrected right away is backup generator placement, as flooding caused NYU hospital to lose power and backup power, forcing evacuation. Out of curiosity, why do certain areas of the US still use above-ground power cables in residential areas? | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
Where da fuk is a shark like that coming from ? | ||
viasacra89
United States134 Posts
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On October 30 2012 23:06 BlitzerSC wrote: Where da fuk is a shark like that coming from ? Photoshop? | ||
ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
On October 30 2012 23:00 Mastermyth wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 22:41 ahole-surprise wrote: A lot of the other effects, such as trees falling and killing people, electrocution are just unavoidable. One thing that can be corrected right away is backup generator placement, as flooding caused NYU hospital to lose power and backup power, forcing evacuation. Out of curiosity, why do certain areas of the US still use above-ground power cables in residential areas? Probably because it is too expensive but also because in busy cities, it is too disruptive to install and then repair any problems associated with underground power lines, even in residential areas. Not defending this analysis, but that's probably the justification given that something like Sandy rarely ever happens. | ||
brian
United States9620 Posts
On October 30 2012 22:56 Barrin wrote: I been in the eye/eywall of multiple cat 2's 3's, and I was even a 4... (east coast florida) A cat 1 did this to you guys up there? Better get your shit together... Imagine it hitting zero degrees in Florida. It's just hard to even imagine, right? Much harder too is to imagine the consequences. | ||
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Medrea
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Not even this amount of damage in repair costs offsets it. On October 30 2012 22:56 Barrin wrote: I been in the eye/eywall of multiple cat 2's 3's, and I was even a 4... (east coast florida) A cat 1 did this to you guys up there? Better get your shit together... Also Barrin the hurricane hit during high tide. And it merged with a Noreaster. So the pressure dropped immensely. As a result, the damage you are looking at is pretty good considering this hurricane is ACTUALLY a category 3 or 4 when you look at its density. Of course the winds are lower, you have any idea how much water this storm has been gathering and holding? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffir–Simpson_Hurricane_Scale But they seem to classify by wind speed exclusively now. So Cat 1. But if you look at the level of flooding. Its obvious the scale doesnt really quantify everything correctly. | ||
Holytornados
United States1022 Posts
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. Florida doesn't have blizzards that combine with hurricanes. The damage looks like Andrew in '92. Dojn't be so insensitive. | ||
Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On October 30 2012 23:00 Mastermyth wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 22:41 ahole-surprise wrote: A lot of the other effects, such as trees falling and killing people, electrocution are just unavoidable. One thing that can be corrected right away is backup generator placement, as flooding caused NYU hospital to lose power and backup power, forcing evacuation. Out of curiosity, why do certain areas of the US still use above-ground power cables in residential areas? Because there is too much stuff underground and under those tunnels is usually bedrock. Most of the above ground wires have high tension wires to keep the poles in place source: outside of my house in NYC suburbs ![]() | ||
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ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
On October 30 2012 23:21 Holytornados wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. Florida doesn't have blizzards that combine with hurricanes. The damage looks like Andrew in '92. Dojn't be so insensitive. I wouldn't say this is insensitivity more than gut reaction beyond reading CAT 1 and not reading the rest that says "combined with Nor'easter that brings it to Cat 3" and combining this with "Hell yea I'm a tough guy for living in a state prepared for hurricanes, lol at these pussies not prepared for events that happen once in a hundred years" | ||
GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On October 30 2012 22:56 Barrin wrote: I been in the eye/eywall of multiple cat 2's 3's, and I was even a 4... (east coast florida) A cat 1 did this to you guys up there? Better get your shit together... I live on east coast florida too and that's a pretty fucked up thing to say. Also, as others have noted, the class doesn't portray how large this hurricane is. | ||
don_kyuhote
3006 Posts
I know some schools closed in the south (couple years ago?) over what, 2 inch of snow? | ||
Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On October 30 2012 22:56 Barrin wrote: I been in the eye/eywall of multiple cat 2's 3's, and I was even a 4... (east coast florida) A cat 1 did this to you guys up there? Better get your shit together... How much of your infrastructure is underground? None? Oh then it seems like you have a lot less to worry about all that water fucking your shit up. The wind/intensity wasnt the problem with the storm, it was the rain. Also I'm sure you're probably wearing a winter coat today because it's 50 degrees in Florida. And don't tell me you aren't because I live in Orlando and I am amazed how many people are wearing jackets today. | ||
Medrea
10003 Posts
There is some criticism of the SSHS for not taking rain, storm speed, and other important factors into consideration, but SSHS defenders say that part of the goal of SSHS is to be straightforward and simple to understand. The category scale is fucking useless. Its only use is for people who leave near the origin. Your basically looking at the impact a wrecking ball is going to do by measuring ONLY the velocity of the ball and not the mass. And we get storms like this one about once every 20 years. Its ridiculous how lucky ive been (I live in Ct, storm is literally going right around us). But everyone in its path is getting devastated by the water. | ||
Garnet
Vietnam9022 Posts
On October 30 2012 22:56 Barrin wrote: I been in the eye/eywall of multiple cat 2's 3's, and I was even a 4... (east coast florida) A cat 1 did this to you guys up there? Better get your shit together... well about 70 people were killed and millions affected. I doubt this is a "cat 1" anymore. | ||
Medrea
10003 Posts
They both run at the same speed. Under the hurricane scale. They are both category one. | ||
ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
On October 30 2012 10:29 ranshaked wrote: Debris falling from a skyscraper on 6th. Many fires going on, but emergency services cannot reach due to 6 feet of water in the road ways I'm receiving these updates from never forget 9/11 page. He is getting them from scanners. Perhaps this is a dense question, but if there is intense flooding and tons of rain going on, wouldn't fires not be a problem? Just open the door and let the hurricane douse the fire? | ||
happyft
United States470 Posts
In Manhattan, everything 39th street to the southern tip lost power due to a transformer exploding (i.e. about half of Manhattan, including Wall Street) + Show Spoiler + Most roads and bridges closed except for two major highways From what I hear on the radio, high tide flooding has inundated southern Long Island. Also flooding east of 2nd avenue Manahttan, and western part of Queens/Brooklyn (basically anything a mile of East River). And I've heard NJ shore has gotten hit the worst It's kind of bizarre how much damage this storm has caused, because the wind was like sustained 35-40mph (50-60mph gusts), barely any rain. But a lot of damage was from flooding from high tides and trees destroying power lines. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On October 30 2012 23:26 don_kyuhote wrote: People down south really shouldn't be making fun of people up north over this. I know some schools closed in the south (couple years ago?) over what, 2 inch of snow? Yea I live in atlanta and we had like 3 or 4 inches of snow and people were calling it snowpocalypse | ||
TheTenthDoc
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Medrea
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On October 30 2012 23:32 Shellshock1122 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 23:26 don_kyuhote wrote: People down south really shouldn't be making fun of people up north over this. I know some schools closed in the south (couple years ago?) over what, 2 inch of snow? Yea I live in atlanta and we had like 3 or 4 inches of snow and people were calling it snowpocalypse I suppose if your trees all have leaves on them still 4 inches could do a lot of damage. We constantly trim trees next to power lines and houses. Or we are supposed to anyway. | ||
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lilsusie
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225108/Hurricane-Sandy-2012-Superstorm-batters-US-coast-Manhattan-goes-dark-7-5m-power-17-dead.html And wow... I'm from north Jersey originally and seeing these pictures is just unbelievable. Stay safe, east coasters! | ||
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Zinnwaldite
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lilsusie
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On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote: I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from. Most people in other states always associate themselves with a particular city that they are most near to. We're such a tiny state that its just easier for us to say north/central/south/shore/etc. It's the same thing really. | ||
don_kyuhote
3006 Posts
On October 30 2012 23:31 ensign_lee wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 10:29 ranshaked wrote: Debris falling from a skyscraper on 6th. Many fires going on, but emergency services cannot reach due to 6 feet of water in the road ways I'm receiving these updates from never forget 9/11 page. He is getting them from scanners. Perhaps this is a dense question, but if there is intense flooding and tons of rain going on, wouldn't fires not be a problem? Just open the door and let the hurricane douse the fire? I've witnessed burning houses on a rainy day before, and what I learned was rain really doesn't do shit once fire reaches a certain size. Wet or dry, it just burns everything in its path. Besides, most of the stuff inside the buildings are dry anyway plus the wind actually helps the fire get bigger. You need to use CO2 or some other chemical because water is not going to be very effective unless your talking like submerging the entire building under water at which point everything is destroyed anyway. | ||
happyft
United States470 Posts
On October 30 2012 23:43 lilsusie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote: I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from. Most people in other states always associate themselves with a particular city that they are most near to. We're such a tiny state that its just easier for us to say north/central/south/shore/etc. It's the same thing really. Also cuz the northern, central and southern parts of NJ are quite different from each other in demographic and urban density. It's the same for New York ... are you from upstate, NYC or long island? They're all quite different from each other. | ||
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Medrea
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On October 30 2012 23:43 lilsusie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote: I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from. Most people in other states always associate themselves with a particular city that they are most near to. We're such a tiny state that its just easier for us to say north/central/south/shore/etc. It's the same thing really. No its because of the enormous cultural and political differences between the Northern and Southern part of New Jersey and you know that too. Its not really exemplified anywhere else in the country. I dont really see other people even removing a word from the states name either ![]() Im from Connecticut. Just Connecticut. I would only specify that Im not from Greenwhich which is where all the filthy rich are. On October 30 2012 23:47 happyft wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 23:43 lilsusie wrote: On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote: I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from. Most people in other states always associate themselves with a particular city that they are most near to. We're such a tiny state that its just easier for us to say north/central/south/shore/etc. It's the same thing really. Also cuz the northern, central and southern parts of NJ are quite different from each other in demographic and urban density. It's the same for New York ... are you from upstate, NYC or long island? They're all quite different from each other. I was gonna mention New York too since its 90 percent nothing but hills and green. And there is the cities. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44390 Posts
On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote: I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from. Those of us from north jersey want to make it quite clear that we're not related to those who are from south jersey ::shudders:: | ||
Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 30 2012 23:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote: I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from. Those of us from north jersey want to make it quite clear that we're not related to those who are from south jersey ::shudders:: Exactly. See, we just make fun of all of you because your drivers are awful. The land is polluted. And everyone is a convict. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44390 Posts
On October 30 2012 23:51 Medrea wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 23:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote: I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from. Those of us from north jersey want to make it quite clear that we're not related to those who are from south jersey ::shudders:: Exactly. See, we just make fun of all of you because your drivers are awful. The land is polluted. And everyone is a convict. Ah, those are the Jersey stereotypes? I thought it was just the way we say coffee and water. | ||
MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
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LiamTheZerg
United States523 Posts
On October 30 2012 23:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote: I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from. Those of us from north jersey want to make it quite clear that we're not related to those who are from south jersey ::shudders:: You kidding? We thank god we're not from North Jersey, which it's shitty ski slopes and meh beaches. And god help anyone in Jersey city. Though we have Camden too, even though it barely counts. | ||
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Medrea
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On October 30 2012 23:57 Mondieu wrote: oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^ Don't tell that to the rest of the world that thinks we are all zealots. | ||
Lukeeze[zR]
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On October 30 2012 23:57 Mondieu wrote: oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^ Americans only unite when we're at war basically. Like, people the north shore hate the people from the south shore in southeastern louisiana, but we're one in the same when we hate the north Louisiana people together, and then we hate Mississippi together as a state, but the south hates the north together which unites the south, and the country hates the middle east together. Unity through hatred. | ||
happyft
United States470 Posts
On October 31 2012 00:01 MattBarry wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 23:57 Mondieu wrote: oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^ Americans only unite when we're at war basically. Like, people the north shore hate the people from the south shore in southeastern louisiana, but we're one in the same when we hate the north Louisiana people together, and then we hate Mississippi together as a state, but the south hates the north together which unites the south, and the country hates the middle east together. Unity through hatred. "War is Peace" -- brought to you by the Ministry of "Peace" Btw apparently this storm brought an unprecedented 13ft surge of seawater, 3ft above the previous record. So even though this was a Cat 1 cane, the barometric pressure was extremely low, indicating the massive amount of energy it would bring | ||
Skullflower
United States3779 Posts
On October 30 2012 23:57 LiamTheZerg wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 23:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote: I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from. Those of us from north jersey want to make it quite clear that we're not related to those who are from south jersey ::shudders:: You kidding? We thank god we're not from North Jersey, which it's shitty ski slopes and meh beaches. And god help anyone in Jersey city. Though we have Camden too, even though it barely counts. The lesson here being that all of New Jersey sucks guys | ||
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused. | ||
Diizzy
United States828 Posts
On October 31 2012 00:57 xHQx wrote: lol ![]() lmao gangnam style cant be stopped | ||
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micronesia
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Ian Ian Ian
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On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote: A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day. Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused. Congratulations on pointing out what everyone else has already mentioned | ||
Medrea
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Which is probably what we should be doing. So this hurricane was basically Cat 3 almost Cat 4 in terms of momentum. | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule19063 Posts
On October 30 2012 23:31 happyft wrote: 85%+ of Long Island lost power, could take up to 7-10 days to restore In Manhattan, everything 39th street to the southern tip lost power due to a transformer exploding (i.e. about half of Manhattan, including Wall Street) + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seMaLEqotUw&noredirect=1 Most roads and bridges closed except for two major highways From what I hear on the radio, high tide flooding has inundated southern Long Island. Also flooding east of 2nd avenue Manahttan, and western part of Queens/Brooklyn (basically anything a mile of East River). And I've heard NJ shore has gotten hit the worst It's kind of bizarre how much damage this storm has caused, because the wind was like sustained 35-40mph (50-60mph gusts), barely any rain. But a lot of damage was from flooding from high tides and trees destroying power lines. The shore isn't really there anymore... All of the dunes got washed away. On October 30 2012 23:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote: I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from. Those of us from north jersey want to make it quite clear that we're not related to those who are from south jersey ::shudders:: I have relatives in North Jersey... | ||
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raf3776
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote: A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day. Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused. Fortunately, only certain parts of NYC are low lying, and storms like these hit us 1-2 times a century, thus not too many pumps installed. | ||
heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On October 31 2012 01:32 trifecta wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote: A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day. Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused. Fortunately, only certain parts of NYC are low lying, and storms like these hit us 1-2 times a century, thus not too many pumps installed. I see, I was under the impression that the flooding last year was pretty bad also. On October 31 2012 01:15 Ian Ian Ian wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote: A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day. Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused. Congratulations on pointing out what everyone else has already mentioned On the other hand your post was very good. 5/5 | ||
ZapRoffo
United States5544 Posts
On October 31 2012 01:46 heliusx wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 01:32 trifecta wrote: On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote: A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day. Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused. Fortunately, only certain parts of NYC are low lying, and storms like these hit us 1-2 times a century, thus not too many pumps installed. I see, I was under the impression that the flooding last year was pretty bad also. Nah last year was really nothing, this one was magnitudes worse. But with climate change it's probable the frequency of storms like this will increase a bit. | ||
AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
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czylu
477 Posts
On October 31 2012 01:53 ZapRoffo wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 01:46 heliusx wrote: On October 31 2012 01:32 trifecta wrote: On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote: A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day. Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused. Fortunately, only certain parts of NYC are low lying, and storms like these hit us 1-2 times a century, thus not too many pumps installed. I see, I was under the impression that the flooding last year was pretty bad also. Nah last year was really nothing, this one was magnitudes worse. But with climate change it's probable the frequency of storms like this will increase a bit. The one last year didn't have flooding. It was actually quite a harmless snow storm if it weren't for the fact the trees still had leaves and collapsed based on the weight of the snow. Sandy had winds that knocked out the trees and drove water into the streets. | ||
Sparkman
United States60 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On October 31 2012 00:01 MattBarry wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 23:57 Mondieu wrote: oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^ Americans only unite when we're at war basically. Like, people the north shore hate the people from the south shore in southeastern louisiana, but we're one in the same when we hate the north Louisiana people together, and then we hate Mississippi together as a state, but the south hates the north together which unites the south, and the country hates the middle east together. Unity through hatred. lol what was all this crap? It's not "Americans" that hate each other. It's teenagers on the internet being 2deep2edgy. | ||
farvacola
United States18829 Posts
On October 31 2012 02:36 Probe1 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 00:01 MattBarry wrote: On October 30 2012 23:57 Mondieu wrote: oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^ Americans only unite when we're at war basically. Like, people the north shore hate the people from the south shore in southeastern louisiana, but we're one in the same when we hate the north Louisiana people together, and then we hate Mississippi together as a state, but the south hates the north together which unites the south, and the country hates the middle east together. Unity through hatred. lol what was all this crap? It's not "Americans" that hate each other. It's teenagers on the internet being 2deep2edgy. Who knew Ludacris could act? | ||
felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On October 31 2012 02:27 czylu wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 01:53 ZapRoffo wrote: On October 31 2012 01:46 heliusx wrote: On October 31 2012 01:32 trifecta wrote: On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote: A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day. Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused. Fortunately, only certain parts of NYC are low lying, and storms like these hit us 1-2 times a century, thus not too many pumps installed. I see, I was under the impression that the flooding last year was pretty bad also. Nah last year was really nothing, this one was magnitudes worse. But with climate change it's probable the frequency of storms like this will increase a bit. The one last year didn't have flooding. It was actually quite a harmless snow storm if it weren't for the fact the trees still had leaves and collapsed based on the weight of the snow. Sandy had winds that knocked out the trees and drove water into the streets. The major flooding from Irene was further north and east, in Mass, NH, Vermont, and Maine iirc. It was bad, it just wasn't in NYC. The ground up there doesn't soak up water quite the same way it does elsewhere. Then again, with the amount of paving, underground building, and extensive underground systems, I don't know that the ground in NYC soaks up water at all - most of the skyscrapers are anchored into bedrock. Oh, someone said something about "having infrastructure below ground" and being hurricane proof - I live in Florida. A lot of the new power lines are going in underground, because it means fewer power outages due to downed trees. There is actually a fair amount of infrastructure here underground - it's just that the vast majority of it is storm drains that were designed to handle large amounts of rain that can occur in a very short period. Categories are scientific ways of defining a storm - just because a Cat 1 would have minimal impact in much of Florida doesn't mean that a Tropical Storm hitting a far more populous location that is historically unprepared for the event wouldn't cause more significant damage. (Kind of like, which does more damage - an F5 tornado in a Kansas corn field or an F1 tornado in Times Square?) | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule19063 Posts
On October 31 2012 02:38 farvacola wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 02:36 Probe1 wrote: On October 31 2012 00:01 MattBarry wrote: On October 30 2012 23:57 Mondieu wrote: oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^ Americans only unite when we're at war basically. Like, people the north shore hate the people from the south shore in southeastern louisiana, but we're one in the same when we hate the north Louisiana people together, and then we hate Mississippi together as a state, but the south hates the north together which unites the south, and the country hates the middle east together. Unity through hatred. lol what was all this crap? It's not "Americans" that hate each other. It's teenagers on the internet being 2deep2edgy. Who knew Ludacris could act? both of you relax and stay on topic please | ||
bK-
United States326 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32066 Posts
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Nausea
Sweden807 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On October 31 2012 03:49 Nausea wrote: I bet if Obama handles this well he will win the election big, if he handles it poorly he will lose surprisingly big. Yea how this gets handled could have a massive effect on how the election swings, if I was Obama I would ride in there personally on the roof of a tank followed by a caravan of military trucks full of food and medical supplies. | ||
Zoltan
United States656 Posts
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Zoltan
United States656 Posts
On October 31 2012 03:49 Nausea wrote: I bet if Obama handles this well he will win the election big, if he handles it poorly he will lose surprisingly big. I read that the dude that bush had handling FEMA said that obama "responded too quickly" He forgot to finish that sentence ..."'cause you are making me look like shit" | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
looks like a lot of flooding from the images. Any estimates for damages yet? | ||
Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On October 31 2012 03:49 Nausea wrote: I bet if Obama handles this well he will win the election big, if he handles it poorly he will lose surprisingly big. I think he wins MA has downed power lines, nothing major. | ||
farvacola
United States18829 Posts
On October 31 2012 04:06 Zoltan wrote: I live right outside Atlantic City, looks like im going to have to rebuild my business from the ground up because of this storm, as 80% of my business happens on NJ's southern barrier islands (I do termite work for real estate agents). Serious problems for me ![]() I'm sorry to hear about your plight; luckily, reconstruction projects are likely going to need termite work! | ||
Zoltan
United States656 Posts
On October 31 2012 04:12 farvacola wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 04:06 Zoltan wrote: I live right outside Atlantic City, looks like im going to have to rebuild my business from the ground up because of this storm, as 80% of my business happens on NJ's southern barrier islands (I do termite work for real estate agents). Serious problems for me ![]() I'm sorry to hear about your plight; luckily, reconstruction projects are likely going to need termite work! I can only hope! I'm trying to talk my friend who is an (voluntarily) unemployed carpenter to help me to get into some re-construction projects lol. Thanks for the well wishes | ||
Bigtony
United States1606 Posts
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Pucca
Taiwan1280 Posts
I'm glad though the damage in my area, Boston, was minimal I have no heard yet what the status of NYC has been as I have not been able to turn on the news. I hope everyone is save. | ||
happyft
United States470 Posts
LIPA on the other hand has said 7-10 days, maybe longer. Cuomo has said that he's keeping an eye on LIPA especially given its terrible track record of taking weeks to restore power in the past, and has authorized PSC to watch over LIPA's efforts. The notion of 90% of Long Island without power for over a week and a half is frankly ridiculous. I guess I'll be commuting to queens every day just to get my work done. | ||
Kibibit
United States1551 Posts
On October 31 2012 06:08 happyft wrote: Coned said power will be back in 3-4 days LIPA on the other hand has said 7-10 days, maybe longer. Cuomo has said that he's keeping an eye on LIPA especially given its terrible track record of taking weeks to restore power in the past, and has authorized PSC to watch over LIPA's efforts. The notion of 90% of Long Island without power for over a week and a half is frankly ridiculous. I guess I'll be commuting to queens every day just to get my work done. Jesus fuck, man. Hopefully the watchdogs keep them in line, because that's just insane. | ||
Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On October 31 2012 07:58 Kibibit wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 06:08 happyft wrote: Coned said power will be back in 3-4 days LIPA on the other hand has said 7-10 days, maybe longer. Cuomo has said that he's keeping an eye on LIPA especially given its terrible track record of taking weeks to restore power in the past, and has authorized PSC to watch over LIPA's efforts. The notion of 90% of Long Island without power for over a week and a half is frankly ridiculous. I guess I'll be commuting to queens every day just to get my work done. Jesus fuck, man. Hopefully the watchdogs keep them in line, because that's just insane. vouch. 10 days without power, are you kidding me? whenever i hear about electricity companies in the US, its horrible. this reminds me of a colleague from pakistan who told me of power outages happening every 2 or so days, but usually only lasting for some few hours. basically, LIPA says they need longer to restore power than some obscure third world country electricity provider. ![]() | ||
czylu
477 Posts
On October 31 2012 09:18 Black Gun wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 07:58 Kibibit wrote: On October 31 2012 06:08 happyft wrote: Coned said power will be back in 3-4 days LIPA on the other hand has said 7-10 days, maybe longer. Cuomo has said that he's keeping an eye on LIPA especially given its terrible track record of taking weeks to restore power in the past, and has authorized PSC to watch over LIPA's efforts. The notion of 90% of Long Island without power for over a week and a half is frankly ridiculous. I guess I'll be commuting to queens every day just to get my work done. Jesus fuck, man. Hopefully the watchdogs keep them in line, because that's just insane. vouch. 10 days without power, are you kidding me? whenever i hear about electricity companies in the US, its horrible. this reminds me of a colleague from pakistan who told me of power outages happening every 2 or so days, but usually only lasting for some few hours. basically, LIPA says they need longer to restore power than some obscure third world country electricity provider. ![]() Did you see that transformer explosion in nyc? This isn't some shoddy electric system in Pakistan that you can fix with some gum and rubberbands, they need to go out and reconstruct every downed pole and energy line. Last year Irene destroyed my town and it took 11 days to finally restore power because there were just so many trees down. | ||
GARO
United States2255 Posts
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Dekoth
United States527 Posts
As for the Coasts, pretty much expected what happened there. I am a bit surprised at how badly prepared NY and NJ actually were. It isn't like hurricanes never hit, just that they are rare. A Cat 1 should never have done anywhere near that damage. | ||
Bigtony
United States1606 Posts
On October 31 2012 10:32 Dekoth wrote: Well, so far so good here. Power flickered a few times but never went out. The usual tree branches all over the place, no serious damage to anything. Only real event I had was pulling a few people out of ditches. Of course they were driving cars that shouldn't of been on the road in the first damn place much less in weather like this. Newsflash people, driving on bald tires is stupid. At this point though the worst is over for us, just cleanup and such. As for the Coasts, pretty much expected what happened there. I am a bit surprised at how badly prepared NY and NJ actually were. It isn't like hurricanes never hit, just that they are rare. A Cat 1 should never have done anywhere near that damage. Tell me how you prepare for record storm surge that hits at the highest point of high tide? | ||
Kibibit
United States1551 Posts
On October 31 2012 10:32 Dekoth wrote: Well, so far so good here. Power flickered a few times but never went out. The usual tree branches all over the place, no serious damage to anything. Only real event I had was pulling a few people out of ditches. Of course they were driving cars that shouldn't of been on the road in the first damn place much less in weather like this. Newsflash people, driving on bald tires is stupid. At this point though the worst is over for us, just cleanup and such. As for the Coasts, pretty much expected what happened there. I am a bit surprised at how badly prepared NY and NJ actually were. It isn't like hurricanes never hit, just that they are rare. A Cat 1 should never have done anywhere near that damage. I wish people would stop saying this. This was a Cat 1 in only wind gusts. Many aspects of the storm were more characteristic of a Category 3 or 4. On top of that, anyone who is surprised at how unprepared NY is fails to understand what would need to be done to be "prepared" for what happened. We'd have had to build strong levees, waterproof a Subway system that is 2 to 3 times larger than what passengers actually ride through. Buildings that would be nigh-impossible to board off would need to be boarded off. Tunnels that were never constructed with the possibility of flooding of that magnitude needed to be floodproofed. The list goes on and on. The damage that happened wasn't of the sort that could be put up even if we were clairvoyant and knew exactly how bad the storm would be from its first reports. New York is not built for hurricanes, and cities that are have been built from the ground up with them in mind. | ||
Kibibit
United States1551 Posts
On October 31 2012 09:35 czylu wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 09:18 Black Gun wrote: On October 31 2012 07:58 Kibibit wrote: On October 31 2012 06:08 happyft wrote: Coned said power will be back in 3-4 days LIPA on the other hand has said 7-10 days, maybe longer. Cuomo has said that he's keeping an eye on LIPA especially given its terrible track record of taking weeks to restore power in the past, and has authorized PSC to watch over LIPA's efforts. The notion of 90% of Long Island without power for over a week and a half is frankly ridiculous. I guess I'll be commuting to queens every day just to get my work done. Jesus fuck, man. Hopefully the watchdogs keep them in line, because that's just insane. vouch. 10 days without power, are you kidding me? whenever i hear about electricity companies in the US, its horrible. this reminds me of a colleague from pakistan who told me of power outages happening every 2 or so days, but usually only lasting for some few hours. basically, LIPA says they need longer to restore power than some obscure third world country electricity provider. ![]() Did you see that transformer explosion in nyc? This isn't some shoddy electric system in Pakistan that you can fix with some gum and rubberbands, they need to go out and reconstruct every downed pole and energy line. Last year Irene destroyed my town and it took 11 days to finally restore power because there were just so many trees down. It's worse than that. There aren't poles to speak of in manhattan. After a massive Blizzard, Manhattan its power lines underground. If you've ever walked around midtown, you'll notice a complete lack of power lines and the like. | ||
Bub
United States3518 Posts
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Yenticha
257 Posts
Even searching "haiti sandy" gives me 95% of hits about US, NYC,... Only got this: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012103075846181519.html Sounds pretty bad. Yet all I can read about on news websites/facebook/teamliquid is "no electricity for 24 hours, my laptop is dying!" or "no subway for days!". Am I the only one being disappointed by how the media are covering this? | ||
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KwarK
United States42817 Posts
On October 31 2012 09:35 czylu wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 09:18 Black Gun wrote: On October 31 2012 07:58 Kibibit wrote: On October 31 2012 06:08 happyft wrote: Coned said power will be back in 3-4 days LIPA on the other hand has said 7-10 days, maybe longer. Cuomo has said that he's keeping an eye on LIPA especially given its terrible track record of taking weeks to restore power in the past, and has authorized PSC to watch over LIPA's efforts. The notion of 90% of Long Island without power for over a week and a half is frankly ridiculous. I guess I'll be commuting to queens every day just to get my work done. Jesus fuck, man. Hopefully the watchdogs keep them in line, because that's just insane. vouch. 10 days without power, are you kidding me? whenever i hear about electricity companies in the US, its horrible. this reminds me of a colleague from pakistan who told me of power outages happening every 2 or so days, but usually only lasting for some few hours. basically, LIPA says they need longer to restore power than some obscure third world country electricity provider. ![]() Did you see that transformer explosion in nyc? This isn't some shoddy electric system in Pakistan that you can fix with some gum and rubberbands, they need to go out and reconstruct every downed pole and energy line. Last year Irene destroyed my town and it took 11 days to finally restore power because there were just so many trees down. In fairness it took about 6 days for the Japanese to rebuild a motorway that got smashed by the earthquake, if you really throw resources at this kind of shit it can get done. | ||
EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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Exigaet
Canada355 Posts
On October 31 2012 15:31 EleanorRIgby wrote: it got really really windy last night, i live right near lake ontario Yeah I live in Ottawa and the winds last night were strong enough to snap the top third of a 150 foot tree close to my house. It managed to fall on our phone lines. ![]() | ||
TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On October 31 2012 14:49 Yenticha wrote: I (obviously) haven't read every single post in this thread but... how is Haiti doing? Even searching "haiti sandy" gives me 95% of hits about US, NYC,... Only got this: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012103075846181519.html Sounds pretty bad. Yet all I can read about on news websites/facebook/teamliquid is "no electricity for 24 hours, my laptop is dying!" or "no subway for days!". Am I the only one being disappointed by how the media are covering this? I am too. Houston had no power for 3 weeks or more with Ike and I dont remember anywhere near this amount of fanfare. I am confused on how there were 50 deaths in the US, Haiti appears to have 51 deaths and I doubt they have anywhere near the structure that shouldve been in place for the US (and it was a Cat 2 for Haiti). Regardless, hope things are well and restored quickly for all involved. | ||
imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
On October 31 2012 16:19 TheRabidDeer wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 14:49 Yenticha wrote: I (obviously) haven't read every single post in this thread but... how is Haiti doing? Even searching "haiti sandy" gives me 95% of hits about US, NYC,... Only got this: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012103075846181519.html Sounds pretty bad. Yet all I can read about on news websites/facebook/teamliquid is "no electricity for 24 hours, my laptop is dying!" or "no subway for days!". Am I the only one being disappointed by how the media are covering this? I am too. Houston had no power for 3 weeks or more with Ike and I dont remember anywhere near this amount of fanfare. I am confused on how there were 50 deaths in the US, Haiti appears to have 51 deaths and I doubt they have anywhere near the structure that shouldve been in place for the US (and it was a Cat 2 for Haiti). Regardless, hope things are well and restored quickly for all involved. 50 deaths divided by the total landmass+density population that got hit. It'll make more sense after that. Still, that really sucks for the east coast... | ||
EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On October 31 2012 14:49 Yenticha wrote: I (obviously) haven't read every single post in this thread but... how is Haiti doing? Even searching "haiti sandy" gives me 95% of hits about US, NYC,... Only got this: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012103075846181519.html Sounds pretty bad. Yet all I can read about on news websites/facebook/teamliquid is "no electricity for 24 hours, my laptop is dying!" or "no subway for days!". Am I the only one being disappointed by how the media are covering this? You have to understand New York mentality... they generally don't realize that anything exists outside of New York. ![]() | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On October 31 2012 17:10 EvilTeletubby wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 14:49 Yenticha wrote: I (obviously) haven't read every single post in this thread but... how is Haiti doing? Even searching "haiti sandy" gives me 95% of hits about US, NYC,... Only got this: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012103075846181519.html Sounds pretty bad. Yet all I can read about on news websites/facebook/teamliquid is "no electricity for 24 hours, my laptop is dying!" or "no subway for days!". Am I the only one being disappointed by how the media are covering this? You have to understand New York mentality... they generally don't realize that anything exists outside of New York. ![]() You're wrong. They at least know a place called Boston exists and that it sucks. ![]() Most people I know in northern NJ lost power, and it's supposed to be freezing there tonight. No heat or electricity when it's cold in NJ...no thanks. D: | ||
Fueled
United States1610 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
Not sure if jealous or not xD | ||
Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
On October 31 2012 18:22 synapse wrote: Buddies at Rutgers have the entire week off, but many without power / internet / clean water. + Show Spoiler + Not sure if jealous or not xD Missing a week of Uni only means more work *shudder* | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule19063 Posts
On October 31 2012 15:16 KwarK wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 09:35 czylu wrote: On October 31 2012 09:18 Black Gun wrote: On October 31 2012 07:58 Kibibit wrote: On October 31 2012 06:08 happyft wrote: Coned said power will be back in 3-4 days LIPA on the other hand has said 7-10 days, maybe longer. Cuomo has said that he's keeping an eye on LIPA especially given its terrible track record of taking weeks to restore power in the past, and has authorized PSC to watch over LIPA's efforts. The notion of 90% of Long Island without power for over a week and a half is frankly ridiculous. I guess I'll be commuting to queens every day just to get my work done. Jesus fuck, man. Hopefully the watchdogs keep them in line, because that's just insane. vouch. 10 days without power, are you kidding me? whenever i hear about electricity companies in the US, its horrible. this reminds me of a colleague from pakistan who told me of power outages happening every 2 or so days, but usually only lasting for some few hours. basically, LIPA says they need longer to restore power than some obscure third world country electricity provider. ![]() Did you see that transformer explosion in nyc? This isn't some shoddy electric system in Pakistan that you can fix with some gum and rubberbands, they need to go out and reconstruct every downed pole and energy line. Last year Irene destroyed my town and it took 11 days to finally restore power because there were just so many trees down. In fairness it took about 6 days for the Japanese to rebuild a motorway that got smashed by the earthquake, if you really throw resources at this kind of shit it can get done. Japan has been dealing with earthquakes for a few thousand years and has had a lot of practice. NYC hasn't spent a lot of time with hurricanes. | ||
Pucca
Taiwan1280 Posts
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micronesia
United States24691 Posts
I understand it will take lipa a while to fix everything, but as far as I can tell they have still given out zero info about the restoration process. That is what frustrates me. | ||
brian
United States9620 Posts
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happyft
United States470 Posts
On October 31 2012 23:36 micronesia wrote: Almost 3 full days for me without power, as well. There is power on one road a short drive away so I might take advantage of it if they are selling any food. I understand it will take lipa a while to fix everything, but as far as I can tell they have still given out zero info about the restoration process. That is what frustrates me. Just heard on 1010 WINS radio an interview of the COO of LIPA where he said they managed to restore power to nearly every hospital and repaired half of the downed substations (1/3rd of substations were out) and began work restoring transmission arrays. The outages went from 940k to 870k this morning, and he estimated as much as 30-35% of outages could be restored over the next 48-60hrs when all the substations and transmission arrays come back online. That's all he was willing to say at that point, they're still doing a lot of assessment on the southern parts of LI which were hit the hardest. I personally saw several blocks come back with power last night -- namely the blocks around the hospital and a few major intersections. I imagine once the substations and transmission arrays are back on, though, they'll just have to go block by block fixing power lines :T So who knows ... it might take 10 days after all. I mean, at this rate of 70k/day, that's 15 days. | ||
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United States3773 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44390 Posts
On October 31 2012 17:44 BlackPaladin wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2012 17:10 EvilTeletubby wrote: On October 31 2012 14:49 Yenticha wrote: I (obviously) haven't read every single post in this thread but... how is Haiti doing? Even searching "haiti sandy" gives me 95% of hits about US, NYC,... Only got this: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012103075846181519.html Sounds pretty bad. Yet all I can read about on news websites/facebook/teamliquid is "no electricity for 24 hours, my laptop is dying!" or "no subway for days!". Am I the only one being disappointed by how the media are covering this? You have to understand New York mentality... they generally don't realize that anything exists outside of New York. ![]() You're wrong. They at least know a place called Boston exists and that it sucks. ![]() Most people I know in northern NJ lost power, and it's supposed to be freezing there tonight. No heat or electricity when it's cold in NJ...no thanks. D: It's really not cold in NJ at the moment, so we're fortunate. If this had happened during the winter for us, we would have been whining our asses off ^^ Those of us with power (including myself) don't even have the heat on. On October 31 2012 18:22 synapse wrote: Buddies at Rutgers have the entire week off, but many without power / internet / clean water. + Show Spoiler + Not sure if jealous or not xD We're super happy that school is closed ^^ Rutgers is notorious for never ever taking off of school, regardless of the weather conditions, despite the fact that over half the student population live off campus/ commute (myself included). It sucks for us when we have to drive through inclement weather. The only time we ever close is when the Raritan River overflows lol. | ||
Fueled
United States1610 Posts
It's really not cold in NJ at the moment, so we're fortunate. If this had happened during the winter for us, we would have been whining our asses off ^^ Those of us with power (including myself) don't even have the heat on. Yep its pretty nice right now. Just had to wear a sweatshirt and sweatpants to bed last night, but other than that it was fine ^^ | ||
brian
United States9620 Posts
Then there's a shot of the battery tunnel COMPLETELY submerged. All you can see is the street lights on the overpass, and the "12 FOOT CLEARANCE" sign. Both can be found in the slideshow @ weather.com if anyone's interested. | ||
ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On November 02 2012 01:31 ghost_403 wrote: Said pictures from the Weather Channel's slide show. Something else. ![]() ![]() This is nuts to see. Living in the Midwest we see tornado damage a fair bit, but nothing like that. | ||
brian
United States9620 Posts
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micronesia
United States24691 Posts
Lines for gas for cars take 3 hours, so I'm glad I still have some gas in my car XD | ||
Fruscainte
4596 Posts
However, I do want to bring some discussion to the table briefly. My economics professor yesterday brought up a pretty interesting point. We were coincidentally talking about how natural disasters affect the economy, and she said that this will probably be extremely good for the economy. Not to say this was a "good" thing, but this is going to be a massive cleanup that is going to take at least 1-2 years to accomplish. That's thousands and maybe tens of thousands of low-skill AND high-skill jobs, that's infrastructure destroyed that needs to rebuilt that makes even more jobs, that's a boom in the housing market in a few years when they get back to rebuilding the thousands of houses destroyed. What is everyone else's thoughts on that notion? I'm not an economics major, so I would like to hear something from someone who knows a lot more about how much this disaster might give some economic benefits. However, let's not take away from the disaster that this is. Any TL'ers adversely affected by this? ;_; | ||
Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On November 03 2012 01:24 Fruscainte wrote: Man, I posted on something of the first few pages how I thought this wasn't a big deal since it was a Cat 1 and whatever and holy fuck was I wrong, just want to get that out there and I apologize if any New Yorkers or otherwise affected got offended by what I wrote. I had no idea the circumstances of it merging with a blizzard and all the other shit and how damaging it was. So I apologize for that. However, I do want to bring some discussion to the table briefly. My economics professor yesterday brought up a pretty interesting point. We were coincidentally talking about how natural disasters affect the economy, and she said that this will probably be extremely good for the economy. Not to say this was a "good" thing, but this is going to be a massive cleanup that is going to take at least 1-2 years to accomplish. That's thousands and maybe tens of thousands of low-skill AND high-skill jobs, that's infrastructure destroyed that needs to rebuilt that makes even more jobs, that's a boom in the housing market in a few years when they get back to rebuilding the thousands of houses destroyed. What is everyone else's thoughts on that notion? I'm not an economics major, so I would like to hear something from someone who knows a lot more about how much this disaster might give some economic benefits. However, let's not take away from the disaster that this is. Any TL'ers adversely affected by this? ;_; Why not destroy some stuff yourself so you can rebuild it afterwards? This has the advantage of also providing demolition jobs. | ||
heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On November 03 2012 01:29 Grumbels wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2012 01:24 Fruscainte wrote: Man, I posted on something of the first few pages how I thought this wasn't a big deal since it was a Cat 1 and whatever and holy fuck was I wrong, just want to get that out there and I apologize if any New Yorkers or otherwise affected got offended by what I wrote. I had no idea the circumstances of it merging with a blizzard and all the other shit and how damaging it was. So I apologize for that. However, I do want to bring some discussion to the table briefly. My economics professor yesterday brought up a pretty interesting point. We were coincidentally talking about how natural disasters affect the economy, and she said that this will probably be extremely good for the economy. Not to say this was a "good" thing, but this is going to be a massive cleanup that is going to take at least 1-2 years to accomplish. That's thousands and maybe tens of thousands of low-skill AND high-skill jobs, that's infrastructure destroyed that needs to rebuilt that makes even more jobs, that's a boom in the housing market in a few years when they get back to rebuilding the thousands of houses destroyed. What is everyone else's thoughts on that notion? I'm not an economics major, so I would like to hear something from someone who knows a lot more about how much this disaster might give some economic benefits. However, let's not take away from the disaster that this is. Any TL'ers adversely affected by this? ;_; Why not destroy some stuff yourself so you can rebuild it afterwards? This has the advantage of also providing demolition jobs. Well it does create a lot of temporary jobs, katrina is evidence to that. I guess the question will be how beneficial temp jobs are to the economy. | ||
Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
Although jobs are gained, people who are harmed by the disaster must pay themselves and thus suffer economically. | ||
Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On November 03 2012 01:31 heliusx wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2012 01:29 Grumbels wrote: On November 03 2012 01:24 Fruscainte wrote: Man, I posted on something of the first few pages how I thought this wasn't a big deal since it was a Cat 1 and whatever and holy fuck was I wrong, just want to get that out there and I apologize if any New Yorkers or otherwise affected got offended by what I wrote. I had no idea the circumstances of it merging with a blizzard and all the other shit and how damaging it was. So I apologize for that. However, I do want to bring some discussion to the table briefly. My economics professor yesterday brought up a pretty interesting point. We were coincidentally talking about how natural disasters affect the economy, and she said that this will probably be extremely good for the economy. Not to say this was a "good" thing, but this is going to be a massive cleanup that is going to take at least 1-2 years to accomplish. That's thousands and maybe tens of thousands of low-skill AND high-skill jobs, that's infrastructure destroyed that needs to rebuilt that makes even more jobs, that's a boom in the housing market in a few years when they get back to rebuilding the thousands of houses destroyed. What is everyone else's thoughts on that notion? I'm not an economics major, so I would like to hear something from someone who knows a lot more about how much this disaster might give some economic benefits. However, let's not take away from the disaster that this is. Any TL'ers adversely affected by this? ;_; Why not destroy some stuff yourself so you can rebuild it afterwards? This has the advantage of also providing demolition jobs. Well it does create a lot of temporary jobs, katrina is evidence to that. I guess the question will be how beneficial temp jobs are to the economy. Exactly. The example my professor gave was her cousin, an electrical engineer, was struggling hard before this and about to foreclose his home. As soon as this hit, he was getting calls from 4 different companies -- including the one that fired him -- offering him free hotel, free flight, and free food for an entire year on $30/hr on a one year contract. This literally saved his economic life. I don't want to paint this as a positive thing that happened, I'm trying to avoid giving off that vibe as much as I can but I mean, there CAN be some silver lining can't there? On November 03 2012 01:33 Praetorial wrote: Damage=economic gain theory never works. Although jobs are gained, people who are harmed by the disaster must pay themselves and thus suffer economically. That's kind of the thing I was thinking, the economic damage negates the economic growth. | ||
heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On November 03 2012 01:33 Praetorial wrote: Damage=economic gain theory never works. Although jobs are gained, people who are harmed by the disaster must pay themselves and thus suffer economically. I wonder what % of people had flood insurance and what not. In louisiana my parents and pretty much everyone else have really expensive policies that cover pretty much everything with a very low deductible. | ||
don_kyuhote
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Kilby
Finland1069 Posts
Anyway. Looks like the storm caused some huge material damage (not to mention the human casualties) so the effects of this storm will probably extend quite far. I think they are talking about even dozens of billions of dollars worth of damage. I'm interested in seeing how long it will take to get the NY subway network back up and running considering that parts of it are currently completely underwater. A 4,5m storm surge in Manhattan sounds really huge. | ||
heliusx
United States2306 Posts
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DeltaSigmaL
United States205 Posts
On November 03 2012 01:34 Fruscainte wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2012 01:31 heliusx wrote: On November 03 2012 01:29 Grumbels wrote: On November 03 2012 01:24 Fruscainte wrote: Man, I posted on something of the first few pages how I thought this wasn't a big deal since it was a Cat 1 and whatever and holy fuck was I wrong, just want to get that out there and I apologize if any New Yorkers or otherwise affected got offended by what I wrote. I had no idea the circumstances of it merging with a blizzard and all the other shit and how damaging it was. So I apologize for that. However, I do want to bring some discussion to the table briefly. My economics professor yesterday brought up a pretty interesting point. We were coincidentally talking about how natural disasters affect the economy, and she said that this will probably be extremely good for the economy. Not to say this was a "good" thing, but this is going to be a massive cleanup that is going to take at least 1-2 years to accomplish. That's thousands and maybe tens of thousands of low-skill AND high-skill jobs, that's infrastructure destroyed that needs to rebuilt that makes even more jobs, that's a boom in the housing market in a few years when they get back to rebuilding the thousands of houses destroyed. What is everyone else's thoughts on that notion? I'm not an economics major, so I would like to hear something from someone who knows a lot more about how much this disaster might give some economic benefits. However, let's not take away from the disaster that this is. Any TL'ers adversely affected by this? ;_; Why not destroy some stuff yourself so you can rebuild it afterwards? This has the advantage of also providing demolition jobs. Well it does create a lot of temporary jobs, katrina is evidence to that. I guess the question will be how beneficial temp jobs are to the economy. Exactly. The example my professor gave was her cousin, an electrical engineer, was struggling hard before this and about to foreclose his home. As soon as this hit, he was getting calls from 4 different companies -- including the one that fired him -- offering him free hotel, free flight, and free food for an entire year on $30/hr on a one year contract. This literally saved his economic life. I don't want to paint this as a positive thing that happened, I'm trying to avoid giving off that vibe as much as I can but I mean, there CAN be some silver lining can't there? Show nested quote + On November 03 2012 01:33 Praetorial wrote: Damage=economic gain theory never works. Although jobs are gained, people who are harmed by the disaster must pay themselves and thus suffer economically. That's kind of the thing I was thinking, the economic damage negates the economic growth. | ||
EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On November 03 2012 02:17 Kilby wrote: I have to say I don't quite understand why OP got a warning for this thread. Was it because he made a thread about Sandy? Or because his post didn't have any links to news sites etc? I had been wondering about the same thing of why there was no existing thread about this and could have made a similar thread because of this so I would like to know why he got the warning. On November 03 2012 02:21 heliusx wrote: Probably because it was a very lazy OP with no information at all. Correct. | ||
XoXiDe
United States620 Posts
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4335 Posts
The heck is wrong with people up there, people are dying and they care about some union crap? Get a grip! “Decatur Utilities sent a 6-man crew to the northeast Wednesday, October 31, bound for Seaside Heights, New Jersey, to assist with power restoration. Communications with Seaside Heights was poor due to lack of cell phone service in the area. Upon arriving at a staging area in Virginia, crews were held in place pending clarification of documents received from IBEW that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas. It was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas.” | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. You have to realize that it isn't the wind that matters, it's the storm surge. The flooding damage is actually pretty severe. I live a few minutes away from Atlantic City New Jersey (inland, thank god) and the damage there is massive. And I used to live in Florida and dealt with large hurricanes as well. Trust me, this storm was a lot worse than you think. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On November 03 2012 07:21 XoXiDe wrote: I wonder if anyone in this thread lives in New Jersey or New York where most of the flooding as occurred, I'd like to hear a first hand account of how the restoration/help efforts are going. Does it seem like you're getting the help you need? Is it good/bad? Though I wonder if anyone in that situation would be checking TL forums right now. Hey thought I would reply. I live on the New Jersey coast and I have to say the disaster relief crews are actually doing a great job. Barrier Islands are still closed to non-residents, which is a bummer because I wanted to go down and volunteer today, but it seems like the help efforts are going really well all things considered. | ||
EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On November 03 2012 09:35 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Hearing reports that a utility truck from Alabama that went up to help was told to go home because it wasn't union? The heck is wrong with people up there, people are dying and they care about some union crap? Get a grip! “Decatur Utilities sent a 6-man crew to the northeast Wednesday, October 31, bound for Seaside Heights, New Jersey, to assist with power restoration. Communications with Seaside Heights was poor due to lack of cell phone service in the area. Upon arriving at a staging area in Virginia, crews were held in place pending clarification of documents received from IBEW that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas. It was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas.” Thus why unions are SO fucking terrible for the sake of actually getting shit done... | ||
Bigtony
United States1606 Posts
On November 03 2012 09:58 EvilTeletubby wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2012 09:35 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Hearing reports that a utility truck from Alabama that went up to help was told to go home because it wasn't union? The heck is wrong with people up there, people are dying and they care about some union crap? Get a grip! “Decatur Utilities sent a 6-man crew to the northeast Wednesday, October 31, bound for Seaside Heights, New Jersey, to assist with power restoration. Communications with Seaside Heights was poor due to lack of cell phone service in the area. Upon arriving at a staging area in Virginia, crews were held in place pending clarification of documents received from IBEW that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas. It was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas.” Thus why unions are SO fucking terrible for the sake of actually getting shit done... Good thing the story isn't true then. To clarify - the local unions are all saying they dont care and are saying they are accepting all help. Some have turned away help because they can't support anymore workers - not enough supplies or whatever to go around - they just need time, not more men on the ground. | ||
Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On November 03 2012 09:40 Darkhoarse wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. You have to realize that it isn't the wind that matters, it's the storm surge. The flooding damage is actually pretty severe. I live a few minutes away from Atlantic City New Jersey (inland, thank god) and the damage there is massive. And I used to live in Florida and dealt with large hurricanes as well. Trust me, this storm was a lot worse than you think. I know how a hurricane works ok, I know most damage comes from the flooding and storm surge not the winds. I have to rescind my previous marks after seeing the 24/7 news coverage for about a week now. The storm did shit ton of damage and it's unbelievable. All I'm left with now is thinking why isn't the entire eastern seaboard actually prepared for these things, is it just not feasible financially to actually have things up to code to withstand a Cat 1-2 hurricane? Same thing happened in New Orleans with Katrina, they weren't prepared at all to be hit by a major hurricane and they paid dearly for it. Now it happens to be the northern part of the country paying for it. Albeit they rarely get storms of this magnitude if ever, shouldn't they have some kind of protection more than they did? It seems they only thing they were prepared to do was the tell everyone to evacuate and hope for the best. Seems to be Katrina all over again except in NYC/Jersey and they actually have aid helping the day after. On November 03 2012 10:27 Bigtony wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2012 09:58 EvilTeletubby wrote: On November 03 2012 09:35 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Hearing reports that a utility truck from Alabama that went up to help was told to go home because it wasn't union? The heck is wrong with people up there, people are dying and they care about some union crap? Get a grip! “Decatur Utilities sent a 6-man crew to the northeast Wednesday, October 31, bound for Seaside Heights, New Jersey, to assist with power restoration. Communications with Seaside Heights was poor due to lack of cell phone service in the area. Upon arriving at a staging area in Virginia, crews were held in place pending clarification of documents received from IBEW that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas. It was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas.” Thus why unions are SO fucking terrible for the sake of actually getting shit done... Good thing the story isn't true then. Ya I don't see a source anywhere, probably just some rumour people are spreading because of the devastation. | ||
heliusx
United States2306 Posts
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Bigtony
United States1606 Posts
As for New Orleans I believe their levies broke and the entire city is below sea level. Most/all the affected areas here are right at sea level (though they were abysmally prepared) or above. | ||
FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On November 03 2012 01:37 heliusx wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2012 01:33 Praetorial wrote: Damage=economic gain theory never works. Although jobs are gained, people who are harmed by the disaster must pay themselves and thus suffer economically. I wonder what % of people had flood insurance and what not. In louisiana my parents and pretty much everyone else have really expensive policies that cover pretty much everything with a very low deductible. Flood is usually written as a monoline policy by the government, where the terms are not so hot. Usually flood insurance has a high deductible that cannot be amended, and coverage is limited for personal lines to around 500k property (building) and 100k contents. To go beyond this you need special insurance, but then again if your parents are paying this they very well might have it. Although with flood specifically, I'm not sure they can remove or get a super low deductible. Most other lines you can, such as wind dmg. Almost all homeowners policies are identical in the coverage they're provided. Sure, you can get broader coverage, but the coverage that exists is typically already on a "EVERYTHING is covered EXCEPT these few things listed." So really, all they may have done is remove those exceptions. For example, flood, volcano, and earthquake are all excluded. On November 03 2012 10:40 heliusx wrote: Not even remotely close to katrina all over again. katrina killed thousands of people and levels thousands of homes and buildings. Primarily because the levies broke though as opposed to the storm itself. | ||
brian
United States9620 Posts
On November 03 2012 10:34 Zooper31 wrote: Show nested quote + Thus why unions are SO fucking terrible for the sake of actually getting shit done... Good thing the story isn't true then. Ya I don't see a source anywhere, probably just some rumour people are spreading because of the devastation. It's not that the story isnt true, or that people are making up rumors. There was a crew of workers from Alabama that waited in Virginia and turned around and went home. They had interpreted the issue as a union problem. All officials claim it was miscommunication and misunderstanding. Googling simply "union workers sandy" will point you to the related news articles. There is enough confusion and chaos and totally random and non directed good will going around as to make managing relief efforts, at times, a sizable task. | ||
Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On November 03 2012 10:40 heliusx wrote: Not even remotely close to katrina all over again. katrina killed thousands of people and levels thousands of homes and buildings. Minus the thousands killed, it's the same. | ||
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micronesia
United States24691 Posts
I'm going to bed, and I aint getting out of bed until I have power back....too cold now. Goodbye tl! | ||
Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
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Inertiaddict
United States126 Posts
I was out in the hurricane. I was driving with my girlfriend. The lights were out, entirely, traffic, stores, etc. The first night there was nothing, no cops, or anything. There wasn't that much rain either, actually. It was a lot of wind. A lot. The thing you had to worry about was a tree falling on you. I saw sparks coming down from telephone poles. Trees lay across the entire street wrapped in live electrical wiring dancing on the street causing sparks on the road and small fires in the shrubbery. People were on the side of the roads with hazards on and flares (just being hazards, themselves). While I was reversing down the block because of a fallen tree a power line became entangled on my drivers side mirror. I thought I was going to get electrocuted. It was scary. Luckily, I was able to free the cable (not with my hand, but with the motion of the car as I opened my door at the same time, phew -.-; ) Trees are down everywhere and that would seem to be the biggest problem. It's very common to see this now as the lawn for every house: + Show Spoiler + ![]() Seriously, this type of thing is everywhere. ![]() Every other piece of property on a block looks like this. The flooding happened too, but that's basically Lindenhurst and Rockaway Beach, beach areas near the coast. The whole island isn't flooded, but where is was flooded was horrible. There it looks more like: + Show Spoiler + ![]() The houses near the water were virtually ripped apart. It's fairly tragic. The people near Staten Island and NJ got hit really badly. They need help. I hear the City is bad too, maybe even worse in a different way. Multiple layers of subway tunnels are completely flooded. I have no idea where they will pump all the water to. I mean, i'm sure thay haqve a plan, but I don't know what it is. I was lucky. I have power and I never lost it. I did lose cable and internet, though, and they are still not back. I cannot play Starcraft 2 right now. Somewhere around 90% of L.I. lost power. Some of my friends have said it could take 2 or 3 weeks for LIPA to restore the power. That's nuts. houses are getting cold and food is spoiling. School's cancelled all week. Next week too, for Election Day. The kids are having a blast. I guess that's all there is to say, without glorifying anything. I haven't heard a death toll, and I kind of don't want to, though, I'm sure Katrina was much worse in that regard, anyway. The scary part now is the gasoline shortage. He's a pic from my friend Facebook wall as he sits on a 3 HOUR LINE for gasoline for his car. Not kidding. People are waiting on lines that stretch down the road passed two other closed gas stations to get to the one that still has. + Show Spoiler + ![]() It's all a bit to take in, honestly. Hope this helps and educates. Thanks guys, any questions, I'll try to come back and check for 'em. | ||
semantics
10040 Posts
On November 03 2012 01:33 Praetorial wrote: Damage=economic gain theory never works. Although jobs are gained, people who are harmed by the disaster must pay themselves and thus suffer economically. It's a fallacy, i don't know who would seriously think that if they put 1 min into forming a comment, all it does it make money spent in one area instead of the money being spent somewhere else. But because the reason for it was destruction the overall equity in the area goes down and the econ suffers. | ||
FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On November 03 2012 12:22 Inertiaddict wrote: I'm a New Yorker, on Long Island. I live in a town called Ronkonkoma and we traveled to Deer Park and back (In the prime time of the storm, 7:30pm Monday night). It's a 20 minute ride down the Long Island Expressway. Feel free to Google Map it. Just for the sake of adding to the discussion I'll say a couple things, since I experienced it a bit, first-hand. I was out in the hurricane. I was driving with my girlfriend. The lights were out, entirely, traffic, stores, etc. The first night there was nothing, no cops, or anything. There wasn't that much rain either, actually. It was a lot of wind. A lot. The thing you had to worry about was a tree falling on you. I saw sparks coming down from telephone poles. Trees lay across the entire street wrapped in live electrical wiring dancing on the street causing sparks on the road and small fires in the shrubbery. People were on the side of the roads with hazards on and flares (just being hazards, themselves). While I was reversing down the block because of a fallen tree a power line became entangled on my drivers side mirror. I thought I was going to get electrocuted. It was scary. Luckily, I was able to free the cable (not with my hand, but with the motion of the car as I opened my door at the same time, phew -.-; ) + Show Spoiler + Trees are down everywhere and that would seem to be the biggest problem. It's very common to see this now as the lawn for every house: ![]() Seriously, this type of thing is everywhere. ![]() Every other piece of property on a block looks like this. The flooding happened too, but that's basically Lindenhurst and Rockaway Beach, beach areas near the coast. The whole island isn't flooded, but where is was flooded was horrible. There it looks more like: ![]() The houses near the water were virtually ripped apart. It's fairly tragic. The people near Staten Island and NJ got hit really badly. They need help. I hear the City is bad too, maybe even worse in a different way. Multiple layers of subway tunnels are completely flooded. I have no idea where they will pump all the water to. I mean, i'm sure thay haqve a plan, but I don't know what it is. I was lucky. I have power and I never lost it. I did lose cable and internet, though, and they are still not back. I cannot play Starcraft 2 right now. Somewhere around 90% of L.I. lost power. Some of my friends have said it could take 2 or 3 weeks for LIPA to restore the power. That's nuts. houses are getting cold and food is spoiling. School's cancelled all week. Next week too, for Election Day. The kids are having a blast. I guess that's all there is to say, without glorifying anything. I haven't heard a death toll, and I kind of don't want to, though, I'm sure Katrina was much worse in that regard, anyway. The scary part now is the gasoline shortage. He's a pic from my friend Facebook wall as he sits on a 3 HOUR LINE for gasoline for his car. Not kidding. People are waiting on lines that stretch down the road passed two other closed gas stations to get to the one that still has. ![]() It's all a bit to take in, honestly. Hope this helps and educates. Thanks guys, any questions, I'll try to come back and check for 'em. Funnily enough, a lot of people will be praying their houses caught fire or had a tree smash their house, if they were caught in a flood zone. Homeowners policies will cover wind damage (including dmg from fallen trees) and fire damage, but excludes flood damage, which you have to buy separately and isn't as commonly purchased (also high deductible, limited coverage, generally run by gov't and less efficient). On the West Coast you pray for the same thing during an earthquake if you don't have earthquake insurance and your house gets fucked. A funny joke I even heard today was one insurance agent we know who doesn't purchase his own Earthquake insurance has a set of matches with the words "Earthquake Insurance" written on it. House gets fucked in an earthquake? "Oh... the earthquake somehow caused a gas leak, and caused a fire causing my house to burn down completely, thanks for the insurance coverage!" While a joke, he actually had the matches with that written on it >_<. Haha. | ||
XoXiDe
United States620 Posts
On November 03 2012 09:42 Darkhoarse wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2012 07:21 XoXiDe wrote: I wonder if anyone in this thread lives in New Jersey or New York where most of the flooding as occurred, I'd like to hear a first hand account of how the restoration/help efforts are going. Does it seem like you're getting the help you need? Is it good/bad? Though I wonder if anyone in that situation would be checking TL forums right now. Hey thought I would reply. I live on the New Jersey coast and I have to say the disaster relief crews are actually doing a great job. Barrier Islands are still closed to non-residents, which is a bummer because I wanted to go down and volunteer today, but it seems like the help efforts are going really well all things considered. Thanks! good to hear on the ground perspective. | ||
semantics
10040 Posts
On November 03 2012 13:33 FabledIntegral wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2012 12:22 Inertiaddict wrote: I'm a New Yorker, on Long Island. I live in a town called Ronkonkoma and we traveled to Deer Park and back (In the prime time of the storm, 7:30pm Monday night). It's a 20 minute ride down the Long Island Expressway. Feel free to Google Map it. Just for the sake of adding to the discussion I'll say a couple things, since I experienced it a bit, first-hand. I was out in the hurricane. I was driving with my girlfriend. The lights were out, entirely, traffic, stores, etc. The first night there was nothing, no cops, or anything. There wasn't that much rain either, actually. It was a lot of wind. A lot. The thing you had to worry about was a tree falling on you. I saw sparks coming down from telephone poles. Trees lay across the entire street wrapped in live electrical wiring dancing on the street causing sparks on the road and small fires in the shrubbery. People were on the side of the roads with hazards on and flares (just being hazards, themselves). While I was reversing down the block because of a fallen tree a power line became entangled on my drivers side mirror. I thought I was going to get electrocuted. It was scary. Luckily, I was able to free the cable (not with my hand, but with the motion of the car as I opened my door at the same time, phew -.-; ) + Show Spoiler + Trees are down everywhere and that would seem to be the biggest problem. It's very common to see this now as the lawn for every house: ![]() Seriously, this type of thing is everywhere. ![]() Every other piece of property on a block looks like this. The flooding happened too, but that's basically Lindenhurst and Rockaway Beach, beach areas near the coast. The whole island isn't flooded, but where is was flooded was horrible. There it looks more like: ![]() The houses near the water were virtually ripped apart. It's fairly tragic. The people near Staten Island and NJ got hit really badly. They need help. I hear the City is bad too, maybe even worse in a different way. Multiple layers of subway tunnels are completely flooded. I have no idea where they will pump all the water to. I mean, i'm sure thay haqve a plan, but I don't know what it is. I was lucky. I have power and I never lost it. I did lose cable and internet, though, and they are still not back. I cannot play Starcraft 2 right now. Somewhere around 90% of L.I. lost power. Some of my friends have said it could take 2 or 3 weeks for LIPA to restore the power. That's nuts. houses are getting cold and food is spoiling. School's cancelled all week. Next week too, for Election Day. The kids are having a blast. I guess that's all there is to say, without glorifying anything. I haven't heard a death toll, and I kind of don't want to, though, I'm sure Katrina was much worse in that regard, anyway. The scary part now is the gasoline shortage. He's a pic from my friend Facebook wall as he sits on a 3 HOUR LINE for gasoline for his car. Not kidding. People are waiting on lines that stretch down the road passed two other closed gas stations to get to the one that still has. ![]() It's all a bit to take in, honestly. Hope this helps and educates. Thanks guys, any questions, I'll try to come back and check for 'em. Funnily enough, a lot of people will be praying their houses caught fire or had a tree smash their house, if they were caught in a flood zone. Homeowners policies will cover wind damage (including dmg from fallen trees) and fire damage, but excludes flood damage, which you have to buy separately and isn't as commonly purchased (also high deductible, limited coverage, generally run by gov't and less efficient). On the West Coast you pray for the same thing during an earthquake if you don't have earthquake insurance and your house gets fucked. A funny joke I even heard today was one insurance agent we know who doesn't purchase his own Earthquake insurance has a set of matches with the words "Earthquake Insurance" written on it. House gets fucked in an earthquake? "Oh... the earthquake somehow caused a gas leak, and caused a fire causing my house to burn down completely, thanks for the insurance coverage!" While a joke, he actually had the matches with that written on it >_<. Haha. SF 1906? earthquake fires were in part caused by people who didn't have earthquake insurance so they set their house on fire hoping to collect off that, hopefully people don't get those kind of ideas. Flood insurance is too risky for avg insurers which is why they normally don't cover it and is often offered as another plan which gets subsided by the government in order to get plans out there. | ||
FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On November 03 2012 15:51 semantics wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2012 13:33 FabledIntegral wrote: On November 03 2012 12:22 Inertiaddict wrote: I'm a New Yorker, on Long Island. I live in a town called Ronkonkoma and we traveled to Deer Park and back (In the prime time of the storm, 7:30pm Monday night). It's a 20 minute ride down the Long Island Expressway. Feel free to Google Map it. Just for the sake of adding to the discussion I'll say a couple things, since I experienced it a bit, first-hand. I was out in the hurricane. I was driving with my girlfriend. The lights were out, entirely, traffic, stores, etc. The first night there was nothing, no cops, or anything. There wasn't that much rain either, actually. It was a lot of wind. A lot. The thing you had to worry about was a tree falling on you. I saw sparks coming down from telephone poles. Trees lay across the entire street wrapped in live electrical wiring dancing on the street causing sparks on the road and small fires in the shrubbery. People were on the side of the roads with hazards on and flares (just being hazards, themselves). While I was reversing down the block because of a fallen tree a power line became entangled on my drivers side mirror. I thought I was going to get electrocuted. It was scary. Luckily, I was able to free the cable (not with my hand, but with the motion of the car as I opened my door at the same time, phew -.-; ) + Show Spoiler + Trees are down everywhere and that would seem to be the biggest problem. It's very common to see this now as the lawn for every house: ![]() Seriously, this type of thing is everywhere. ![]() Every other piece of property on a block looks like this. The flooding happened too, but that's basically Lindenhurst and Rockaway Beach, beach areas near the coast. The whole island isn't flooded, but where is was flooded was horrible. There it looks more like: ![]() The houses near the water were virtually ripped apart. It's fairly tragic. The people near Staten Island and NJ got hit really badly. They need help. I hear the City is bad too, maybe even worse in a different way. Multiple layers of subway tunnels are completely flooded. I have no idea where they will pump all the water to. I mean, i'm sure thay haqve a plan, but I don't know what it is. I was lucky. I have power and I never lost it. I did lose cable and internet, though, and they are still not back. I cannot play Starcraft 2 right now. Somewhere around 90% of L.I. lost power. Some of my friends have said it could take 2 or 3 weeks for LIPA to restore the power. That's nuts. houses are getting cold and food is spoiling. School's cancelled all week. Next week too, for Election Day. The kids are having a blast. I guess that's all there is to say, without glorifying anything. I haven't heard a death toll, and I kind of don't want to, though, I'm sure Katrina was much worse in that regard, anyway. The scary part now is the gasoline shortage. He's a pic from my friend Facebook wall as he sits on a 3 HOUR LINE for gasoline for his car. Not kidding. People are waiting on lines that stretch down the road passed two other closed gas stations to get to the one that still has. ![]() It's all a bit to take in, honestly. Hope this helps and educates. Thanks guys, any questions, I'll try to come back and check for 'em. Funnily enough, a lot of people will be praying their houses caught fire or had a tree smash their house, if they were caught in a flood zone. Homeowners policies will cover wind damage (including dmg from fallen trees) and fire damage, but excludes flood damage, which you have to buy separately and isn't as commonly purchased (also high deductible, limited coverage, generally run by gov't and less efficient). On the West Coast you pray for the same thing during an earthquake if you don't have earthquake insurance and your house gets fucked. A funny joke I even heard today was one insurance agent we know who doesn't purchase his own Earthquake insurance has a set of matches with the words "Earthquake Insurance" written on it. House gets fucked in an earthquake? "Oh... the earthquake somehow caused a gas leak, and caused a fire causing my house to burn down completely, thanks for the insurance coverage!" While a joke, he actually had the matches with that written on it >_<. Haha. SF 1906? earthquake fires were in part caused by people who didn't have earthquake insurance so they set their house on fire hoping to collect off that, hopefully people don't get those kind of ideas. Flood insurance is too risky for avg insurers which is why they normally don't cover it and is often offered as another plan which gets subsided by the government in order to get plans out there. So what's the point you're trying to make. | ||
lynx.oblige
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
sigh Also, have you guys ever driven while there's a complete power outage? No street lights? Shit is chaos. | ||
Dekoth
United States527 Posts
On November 03 2012 12:22 Inertiaddict wrote: I'm a New Yorker, on Long Island. I live in a town called Ronkonkoma and we traveled to Deer Park and back (In the prime time of the storm, 7:30pm Monday night). It's a 20 minute ride down the Long Island Expressway. Feel free to Google Map it. Just for the sake of adding to the discussion I'll say a couple things, since I experienced it a bit, first-hand. I was out in the hurricane. I was driving with my girlfriend. The lights were out, entirely, traffic, stores, etc. The first night there was nothing, no cops, or anything. There wasn't that much rain either, actually. It was a lot of wind. A lot. The thing you had to worry about was a tree falling on you. I saw sparks coming down from telephone poles. Trees lay across the entire street wrapped in live electrical wiring dancing on the street causing sparks on the road and small fires in the shrubbery. People were on the side of the roads with hazards on and flares (just being hazards, themselves). While I was reversing down the block because of a fallen tree a power line became entangled on my drivers side mirror. I thought I was going to get electrocuted. It was scary. Luckily, I was able to free the cable (not with my hand, but with the motion of the car as I opened my door at the same time, phew -.-; ) Trees are down everywhere and that would seem to be the biggest problem. It's very common to see this now as the lawn for every house: + Show Spoiler + ![]() Seriously, this type of thing is everywhere. ![]() Every other piece of property on a block looks like this. The flooding happened too, but that's basically Lindenhurst and Rockaway Beach, beach areas near the coast. The whole island isn't flooded, but where is was flooded was horrible. There it looks more like: + Show Spoiler + ![]() The houses near the water were virtually ripped apart. It's fairly tragic. The people near Staten Island and NJ got hit really badly. They need help. I hear the City is bad too, maybe even worse in a different way. Multiple layers of subway tunnels are completely flooded. I have no idea where they will pump all the water to. I mean, i'm sure thay haqve a plan, but I don't know what it is. I was lucky. I have power and I never lost it. I did lose cable and internet, though, and they are still not back. I cannot play Starcraft 2 right now. Somewhere around 90% of L.I. lost power. Some of my friends have said it could take 2 or 3 weeks for LIPA to restore the power. That's nuts. houses are getting cold and food is spoiling. School's cancelled all week. Next week too, for Election Day. The kids are having a blast. I guess that's all there is to say, without glorifying anything. I haven't heard a death toll, and I kind of don't want to, though, I'm sure Katrina was much worse in that regard, anyway. The scary part now is the gasoline shortage. He's a pic from my friend Facebook wall as he sits on a 3 HOUR LINE for gasoline for his car. Not kidding. People are waiting on lines that stretch down the road passed two other closed gas stations to get to the one that still has. + Show Spoiler + ![]() It's all a bit to take in, honestly. Hope this helps and educates. Thanks guys, any questions, I'll try to come back and check for 'em. Glad to hear things are ok for you. I have friends in Queens and in NJ I am still trying to contact. As for upstate where it was also supposed to get bad, it didn't. We had 1 night of high winds and a ton of rain but nothing even remotely serious. That said I am getting tired of the katrina comparisons. There is no comparison whatsoever and anyone who thinks so has obviously never been through a hurricane. NY and NJ had two things working against them; 1 the unfortunate timing of tide and 2 the fact that they never updated their levy system even after the lessons learned from katrina. Minus these two factors, Sandy was not a bad hurricane. Sandy ended up far worse then a typical Cat 1 due to incredibly bad timing. | ||
Disregard
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Voltaire
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dp
United States234 Posts
My gf's friend's sister was on her roof as her house collapsed beneath her. She had to jump from the roof to a floating fridge door and onto another roof of a house that didn't float away. Her pets and home were all lost. All down from Union Beach to Keansburg to Atlantic Highlands had incredible damage done by this storm. I haven't had power since Monday and don't expect it back before next week at this rate, and my town wasn't hit as bad as others. It might not be too cold for some to just bundle up extra and hide out under covers but with a 5 month old, you can't do that. If you didn't get hit bad, be glad. | ||
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United States513 Posts
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Lebesgue
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We still have no hot water and heating. We were told that we will have to wait up to a week to get heating and possibly another week for hot water. But having power back is huge! Lower Manhattan looked surreal post-Sandy. It really felt as if I am in a movie like "I Am Legend". I hope any other TLers that were affected by the hurricane are fine... | ||
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BlackPaladin
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4335 Posts
On November 05 2012 04:40 BlackPaladin wrote: It won't change anything in NYC or NJ. Big sodas are more of an issue for mayor Bloomberg than people being able to protect their homes from looters.It's a sad state of affairs. | ||
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micronesia
United States24691 Posts
Talk about first world problems beyatches. | ||
Fueled
United States1610 Posts
As long as I don't have power Still no power? D: Its going to be a cold one tonight, take care, micro! | ||
KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
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lynx.oblige
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micronesia
United States24691 Posts
It will go on the same list as 9/11, the Kennedy assassination, etc.. For the people across the street from me it will be: felt sorry for the schmucks across the street If you are buying a home, go with the even side... not the odd one. | ||
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nettleberry
United States201 Posts
On November 03 2012 12:22 Inertiaddict wrote: While I was reversing down the block because of a fallen tree a power line became entangled on my drivers side mirror. I thought I was going to get electrocuted. It was scary. Luckily, I was able to free the cable (not with my hand, but with the motion of the car as I opened my door at the same time, phew -.-; ) Just for future reference, please don't open the car door if your car has a power line on it. You're safe inside the car as the power is routed around you to the ground. By opening the door you risk a discharge from your frame or from the wire itself, though the real danger is if you try to get out and the power can find a connection to the ground. If you can, get someone outside to help you. | ||
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micronesia
United States24691 Posts
I'm in NY so it's a bit surreal that the crews working on my block were from Houston, Texas! | ||
Alasper
179 Posts
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. Why don't you come to hoboken and see what people were "freaking out about." Got power back last night. This storm did restore some of my faith in humanity though, the amount of people that volunteered their time to help those without power or food blew my mind. Hope everyone is ok.. | ||
NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On November 07 2012 06:29 Alasper wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote: This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies. It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm. Why don't you come to hoboken and see what people were "freaking out about." Got power back last night. This storm did restore some of my faith in humanity though, the amount of people that volunteered their time to help those without power or food blew my mind. Hope everyone is ok.. He posted that before it hit the cold current coming down which caused a flux and massive increase into a hurricane. It was just a tropical or near tropical at the time ![]() | ||
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United States9620 Posts
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Dubzex
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Deshkar
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:53 Deshkar wrote: anyone got some kinda map that displays where did Sandy hit NYC exactly? I actually have a flight there in mid-December. Very unsure of situations over there, how fast is the recovery; whether I should postpone my trip. =/ It'd be easier for you to let us know where you plan to go. I assume it's Manhattan, which is mostly untouched (except for the bottom tip). | ||
Deshkar
Singapore1244 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:56 JinDesu wrote: Show nested quote + On November 07 2012 21:53 Deshkar wrote: anyone got some kinda map that displays where did Sandy hit NYC exactly? I actually have a flight there in mid-December. Very unsure of situations over there, how fast is the recovery; whether I should postpone my trip. =/ It'd be easier for you to let us know where you plan to go. I assume it's Manhattan, which is mostly untouched (except for the bottom tip). Ya manhattan, area around central park. Would really appreciate any info, I'm under the impression that it was barely hit and that alot of the recovery in the area are pretty well and fast. News on the web, go from okay to total chaos, hard to filter. | ||
JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On November 07 2012 22:05 Deshkar wrote: Show nested quote + On November 07 2012 21:56 JinDesu wrote: On November 07 2012 21:53 Deshkar wrote: anyone got some kinda map that displays where did Sandy hit NYC exactly? I actually have a flight there in mid-December. Very unsure of situations over there, how fast is the recovery; whether I should postpone my trip. =/ It'd be easier for you to let us know where you plan to go. I assume it's Manhattan, which is mostly untouched (except for the bottom tip). Ya manhattan, area around central park. Would really appreciate any info, I'm under the impression that it was barely hit and that alot of the recovery in the area are pretty well and fast. News on the web, go from okay to total chaos, hard to filter. Big update: Don't come in the next two days. Strong snowstorm/rain with strong winds supposedly coming in. After - probably ok. | ||
happyft
United States470 Posts
Well my family has temporarily moved to an apartment in Queens. 90% of my neighborhood got power back 7 days ago, me and 5 houses are still waiting -- who knows how long it'll take? | ||
Dubzex
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