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Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
October 29 2012 22:17 GMT
#1
I am surprised that there is no thread about this yet. I don't think it needs a big introduction post. If you still haven't heard, visit any major news site.

How are you US TLer's doing? Is it as bad as they said it would be?

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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
October 29 2012 22:20 GMT
#2
LuckyFools Frankenstorm blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=378741. That might be why.
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pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2497 Posts
October 29 2012 22:21 GMT
#3
If you gonna make a thread like this please be kind enough to link some proof in the OP.
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Duval
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Belgium144 Posts
October 29 2012 22:26 GMT
#4
To be honest, I only vaguely read the name because the LOTRO servers were down lolol
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 22:32:13
October 29 2012 22:26 GMT
#5
Nvm I'm dumb ^^
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 29 2012 22:27 GMT
#6
The joke
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Your head.
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cscarfo1
Profile Joined March 2011
United States307 Posts
October 29 2012 22:28 GMT
#7
I live near the Jersey Coast. The whole coast is flooded and pretty much destroyed. It's really sad to see. But my house isn't our of electricity (hopefully it doesn't). GL and be safe all other TLer's going through the storm
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Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
October 29 2012 22:28 GMT
#8
What are some good internet stream coverages? I have no t.v -.-
ChiknAdobo
Profile Joined November 2010
United States208 Posts
October 29 2012 22:28 GMT
#9
I'm in Richmond, VA and supposedly it was supposed to be really bad. They cancelled schools and stuff but its just been rainy and a little windy. I've heard near the coast like VA Beach it is pretty bad.
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TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
October 29 2012 22:29 GMT
#10
32,000 people in Maine without power, and the storm is barely here t.t.
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Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 29 2012 22:30 GMT
#11
GLHF East Coasters. I hope you stocked up on booze, generator fuel, and plywood.
Turn off the radio
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
October 29 2012 22:31 GMT
#12
Size comparison of Irene vs Sandy, pretty nuts.
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jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 29 2012 22:33 GMT
#13
^ I think it's scarier watching all that land in the background turn brown.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44390 Posts
October 29 2012 22:34 GMT
#14
South Jersey got hit hard but I'm in central/ north Jersey and nothing's really happened here yet. Power flickered a little because of the wind... just enough for me to lose a few games of SC2. That's about it here.
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Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
October 29 2012 22:37 GMT
#15
On October 30 2012 07:33 jdseemoreglass wrote:
^ I think it's scarier watching all that land in the background turn brown.


Irene was August, this is end October. That could be the reason, autumn vs. summer.
ClairvoyanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States758 Posts
October 29 2012 22:39 GMT
#16
I'm in northeast part of New Jersey and it's starting to really kick in. Lights flickering, and the house is actually moving a little. And the sound effects of all the trees is a bit frightening.
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
October 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#17
i have played 2 dota2 games today and both lasted 5 min due to DCs. they mustve been hit by hurricane
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AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
October 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#18
I'm in central New York and there ain't nothin going on here yet.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 22:41:33
October 29 2012 22:41 GMT
#19
I have an LR blog here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=378790

Has tons of pics
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
October 29 2012 22:43 GMT
#20
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
October 29 2012 22:44 GMT
#21
On October 30 2012 07:28 Hokay wrote:
What are some good internet stream coverages? I have no t.v -.-



Youtube stream
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Typhoon1789
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia292 Posts
October 29 2012 22:46 GMT
#22
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.


Geez listen to Mr tough C**t here.

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Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
October 29 2012 22:46 GMT
#23
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.


So it is all media hype again? I really dont know.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 29 2012 22:47 GMT
#24
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.

GEE maybe because, and let's not pull anyones card here but you're full of shit, the housing requirements and zoning laws for New England differ wildly from the ones in Florida!

Go count how many houses are on stilts in New York.
Go. Right now. Count em up.
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Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
October 29 2012 22:47 GMT
#25
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.


Storm irene did damages for 19 billion and this one is 10 times its size. This will be devestating.
Typhoon1789
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia292 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 22:50:26
October 29 2012 22:48 GMT
#26
On October 30 2012 07:46 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.


So it is all media hype again? I really dont know.


From what ive seen so far, i don't think this is gonna be all hype. I think there will be a good case of flooding damage and wind damage at the very least. This is much bigger than irene.
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Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
October 29 2012 22:50 GMT
#27
its a cat 2 now.
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6657 Posts
October 29 2012 22:50 GMT
#28
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.

Pretty much this... I haven't exactly lived through a hurricane before(Live in Ontario all my life) but you don't have to live through one to look at this and realize it's not THAT big of a deal.... I saw people lining up outside a grocery store to stock up on supplies today for fuck sake... I really blame the media on this, they hyped the living shit out of a glorified thunder storm and got people freaking the fuck out over nothing -.-

Makes me kind of sad to see how easily people are scared by shit like this. News proclaims a catastrophe and every one craps there pants and panics without even thinking.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 29 2012 22:50 GMT
#29
It's only a Category 1 atm, but the storm can get worse. Not to mention that the pure size of it means that it'll end up hitting places that are poorly prepared to handle any kind of hurricanes.
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 22:52:56
October 29 2012 22:51 GMT
#30
On October 30 2012 07:46 Typhoon1789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.


Geez listen to Mr tough C**t here.



no need for that comment......hes actually 100% right. take it from someone else who has lived in Miami for 19 years. this is nothing but a shit ton of water. It really is mostly media hype, and its costing the country about 10 billion a day. a cat 1 is nada. Certainly not conditions to be driving in, or walking around outside in, but u can sleep through it quite comfortably...

Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 29 2012 22:52 GMT
#31
Why do they always give Hurricanes female names? Katrina, Sandy, ???
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venomium
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands245 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 22:53:32
October 29 2012 22:53 GMT
#32
For the people saying that this is 'just some rainy weather', there's an interesting article in the blog section about why this Cat 1 hurricane might be worse than most others:

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=378741
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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
October 29 2012 22:53 GMT
#33
Saw this picture on Facebook today. Not sure if legit.

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Typhoon1789
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia292 Posts
October 29 2012 22:53 GMT
#34
On October 30 2012 07:52 MooMooMugi wrote:
Why do they always give Hurricanes female names? Katrina, Sandy, ???


Because there like females? ;D
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HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
October 29 2012 22:53 GMT
#35
On October 30 2012 07:52 MooMooMugi wrote:
Why do they always give Hurricanes female names? Katrina, Sandy, ???



andrew has still been one of the worst :/
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
October 29 2012 22:54 GMT
#36
On October 30 2012 07:53 Draconicfire wrote:
Saw this picture on Facebook today. Not sure if legit.

[image loading]


It's fake. The maker said it's fake.
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
October 29 2012 22:54 GMT
#37
they alternate male female.

Pretty ironic that all the tragic ones in recent memory are female
Ike being an exception.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 22:55:10
October 29 2012 22:54 GMT
#38
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.

it would be pretty much the same thing if Florida got 1 inch of snow (e.g. ppl freaking the fuck out). To us in the upper NE, 3 feet of snow won't even register as scary to me. It's all about how often it happens, and how prepared you are to deal with it.

Edit: also I was in NYC when Irene hit last year, and it was laughable.
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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
October 29 2012 22:54 GMT
#39
On October 30 2012 07:52 MooMooMugi wrote:
Why do they always give Hurricanes female names? Katrina, Sandy, ???

They use male and female. The worst hurricane I've been through was named Charlie.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 29 2012 22:58 GMT
#40
Hope everyone on the US eastcoast stays safe! If all goes well it's just a long weekend for you guys .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Alay
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States660 Posts
October 29 2012 22:59 GMT
#41
From CT here. Shit just got real for a while, seems to be calm right now though.

Power flickering, so far decent.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 29 2012 22:59 GMT
#42
KENSINGTON, Md. — The projected storm surge from Hurricane Sandy is a "worst case scenario" with devastating waves and tides predicted for the highly populated New York City metro area, government forecasters said Sunday.

The more they observe it, the more the experts worry about the water — which usually kills and does more damage than winds in hurricanes.

In this case, seas will be amped up by giant waves and full-moon-powered high tides. That will combine with drenching rains, triggering inland flooding as the hurricane merges with a winter storm system that will worsen it and hold it in place for days.

Louis Uccellini, environmental prediction chief for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, told The Associated Press that given Sandy's due east-to-west track into New Jersey, that puts the worst of the storm surge just north in New York City, Long Island and northern New Jersey. "Yes, this is the worst case scenario," he said.

In a measurement of pure kinetic energy, NOAA's hurricane research division on Sunday ranked the surge and wave "destruction potential" for Sandy — just the hurricane, not the hybrid storm it will eventually become — at 5.8 on a 0 to 6 scale. The damage expected from winds will be far less, experts said. Weather Underground meteorologist Jeff Masters says that surge destruction potential number is a record and it's due to the storm's massive size.

"You have a lot of wind acting over a long distance of water for hundreds of miles" and that piles the storm surge up when it finally comes ashore, Masters said. Even though it doesn't pack much power in maximum wind speed, the tremendous size of Sandy — more than 1,000 miles across with tropical storm force winds — adds to the pummelling power when it comes ashore, he said.

The storm surge energy numbers are bigger than the deadly 2005 Hurricane Katrina, but that can be misleading. Katrina's destruction was concentrated in a small area, making it much worse, Masters said. Sandy's storm surge energy is spread over a wider area. Also, Katrina hit a city that is below sea level and had problems with levees.

National Hurricane Center Director Rick Knabb said Hurricane Sandy's size means some coastal parts of New York and New Jersey may see water rise from 6 to 11 feet from surge and waves. The rest of the coast north of Virginia can expect 4 to 8 feet of surge.

The full moon Monday will add 2 to 3 inches to the storm surge in New York, Masters said.

"If the forecasts hold true in terms of the amount of rainfall and the amount of coastal flooding, that's going to be what drives up the losses and that's what's going to hurt," said Susan Cutter, director of the hazards and vulnerability research institute at the University of South Carolina.

Cutter said she worries about coastal infrastructure, especially the New York subways, which were shutting down Sunday night.

Klaus Jacob, a Columbia University researcher who has advised the city on coastal risks, said, "We have to prepare to the extent we can, but I'm afraid that from a subway point of view, I think it's beyond sheer preparations. I do not think that there's enough emergency measures that will help prevent the subway from flooding."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57541932/sandy-and-storm-surge-pose-worst-case-scenario/

Doesn't sound like media hype to me. Sounds like the experts are anticipating the worst, and you guys have no clue what you are talking about because you focus on one number instead of the 1000 factors at play.
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Leroyx2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States72 Posts
October 29 2012 23:00 GMT
#43
I still have power!
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Cainam
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States421 Posts
October 29 2012 23:00 GMT
#44
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.


Buildings in Florida are built to withstand hurricanes. In the Northeast not so much...
lowreezy08
Profile Joined June 2011
United States143 Posts
October 29 2012 23:01 GMT
#45
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.


clearly you're oblivious to what is going on here, should probably do your research before talking like it's nothing. It's expected to be a natural disaster.
sup
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
October 29 2012 23:04 GMT
#46
yeah, weather.com expects 10 feet of surge in the long island sound. I'm impressed the entire island isnt already underwater.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 23:06:07
October 29 2012 23:04 GMT
#47
On October 30 2012 07:59 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
KENSINGTON, Md. — The projected storm surge from Hurricane Sandy is a "worst case scenario" with devastating waves and tides predicted for the highly populated New York City metro area, government forecasters said Sunday.

The more they observe it, the more the experts worry about the water — which usually kills and does more damage than winds in hurricanes.

In this case, seas will be amped up by giant waves and full-moon-powered high tides. That will combine with drenching rains, triggering inland flooding as the hurricane merges with a winter storm system that will worsen it and hold it in place for days.

Louis Uccellini, environmental prediction chief for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, told The Associated Press that given Sandy's due east-to-west track into New Jersey, that puts the worst of the storm surge just north in New York City, Long Island and northern New Jersey. "Yes, this is the worst case scenario," he said.

In a measurement of pure kinetic energy, NOAA's hurricane research division on Sunday ranked the surge and wave "destruction potential" for Sandy — just the hurricane, not the hybrid storm it will eventually become — at 5.8 on a 0 to 6 scale. The damage expected from winds will be far less, experts said. Weather Underground meteorologist Jeff Masters says that surge destruction potential number is a record and it's due to the storm's massive size.

"You have a lot of wind acting over a long distance of water for hundreds of miles" and that piles the storm surge up when it finally comes ashore, Masters said. Even though it doesn't pack much power in maximum wind speed, the tremendous size of Sandy — more than 1,000 miles across with tropical storm force winds — adds to the pummelling power when it comes ashore, he said.

The storm surge energy numbers are bigger than the deadly 2005 Hurricane Katrina, but that can be misleading. Katrina's destruction was concentrated in a small area, making it much worse, Masters said. Sandy's storm surge energy is spread over a wider area. Also, Katrina hit a city that is below sea level and had problems with levees.

National Hurricane Center Director Rick Knabb said Hurricane Sandy's size means some coastal parts of New York and New Jersey may see water rise from 6 to 11 feet from surge and waves. The rest of the coast north of Virginia can expect 4 to 8 feet of surge.

The full moon Monday will add 2 to 3 inches to the storm surge in New York, Masters said.

"If the forecasts hold true in terms of the amount of rainfall and the amount of coastal flooding, that's going to be what drives up the losses and that's what's going to hurt," said Susan Cutter, director of the hazards and vulnerability research institute at the University of South Carolina.

Cutter said she worries about coastal infrastructure, especially the New York subways, which were shutting down Sunday night.

Klaus Jacob, a Columbia University researcher who has advised the city on coastal risks, said, "We have to prepare to the extent we can, but I'm afraid that from a subway point of view, I think it's beyond sheer preparations. I do not think that there's enough emergency measures that will help prevent the subway from flooding."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57541932/sandy-and-storm-surge-pose-worst-case-scenario/

Doesn't sound like media hype to me. Sounds like the experts are anticipating the worst, and you guys have no clue what you are talking about because you focus on one number instead of the 1000 factors at play.

Especially seeing pictures like this makes me think its kind of a big deal. Couple of 100.000 people without electricity too.

[image loading]


Atlantic city.
bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 23:05:10
October 29 2012 23:04 GMT
#48
Tons of rain here in southern Ontario Canada right now, I think it's slowed down a bit just now, I'm not sure though cause I'm in class.
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 23:08:16
October 29 2012 23:07 GMT
#49
Lol claim to live in Florida, says Hurricanes are overblown.

Hurricane Andrew 1992: 26.5 Billion in damages, when it hit southern Florida.
Yeaup media hype... right?

This is ignoring this year the... 14 hours of a tropical storm just chilling over the bay area dropping rain, wind and tornado's. It also did quite a lot of damage.

Don't treat this like it's no big deal, stay inside, relax and ride it out and if the tell you to evac, do it.
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Savi[wOk]
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States81 Posts
October 29 2012 23:10 GMT
#50
I hope everyone over in the east coast is taking this seriously and making sure to stock up on supplies. Try to keep in contact with a group of neighbors as well.
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JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
October 29 2012 23:11 GMT
#51
It's going pretty bad now in NYC. Lots of power outages. My internet is fritzy too.
Yargh
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 29 2012 23:12 GMT
#52
On October 30 2012 08:07 Parnage wrote:
Lol claim to live in Florida, says Hurricanes are overblown.

Hurricane Andrew 1992: 26.5 Billion in damages, when it hit southern Florida.
Yeaup media hype... right?

This is ignoring this year the... 14 hours of a tropical storm just chilling over the bay area dropping rain, wind and tornado's. It also did quite a lot of damage.

Don't treat this like it's no big deal, stay inside, relax and ride it out and if the tell you to evac, do it.

not a really good comparison since Andrew was a category 5; Sandy is a category 1.

The issue tho is that Sandy is fucking huge and it seems to be moving very very slowly. Which means that you'll be getting sustained category 1 winds for a much longer time than usual. In addition, this storm is also predicted to have a shitton of flooding; which coincidentally is how most of the damage/casualties is caused. The Saffir-Simpson scale only really accounts for wind speed and air pressure; it doesn't really account for flooding.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18829 Posts
October 29 2012 23:12 GMT
#53
The storm has been downgraded according to a National Weather Service announcement on MSNBC. Still packs quite a punch, but it's not class 1 anymore.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
October 29 2012 23:16 GMT
#54
Unfortunately us northeast people aren't used to hurricanes/tropical storms, so we're not as prepared
Yargh
Zahir
Profile Joined March 2012
United States947 Posts
October 29 2012 23:17 GMT
#55
Virginia resident here. I put everything in my basement on stilts and checked my wife and i into a hotel across the street from work, so i could do overtime to cover the call outs and not have to bother with power outages. Strong winds right now in dc, flooding in my basement (as predicted). But not the worst I've seen.
What is best? To crush the Zerg, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the Protoss.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 23:19:40
October 29 2012 23:18 GMT
#56
On October 30 2012 08:12 farvacola wrote:
The storm has been downgraded according to a National Weather Service announcement on MSNBC. Still packs quite a punch, but it's not class 1 anymore.

I'm looking at the most current 7pm EST update on the NWS website. They're reporting sustained winds of 45 mph (below category 1), but they're also reporting wind gusts in excess of 80 mph (not as big an issue tho).

Biggest issue atm is the storm surges, which are ranging from 7.2 feet to over 12 feet.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCUAT3 shtml/292256.shtml?
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 23:22:51
October 29 2012 23:21 GMT
#57
On October 30 2012 07:41 Praetorial wrote:
I have an LR blog here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=378790

Has tons of pics
[image loading]

well.. it has hardly any pics tbh..

anyways

stay saf e guys !!!
T H C makes ppl happy
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
October 29 2012 23:22 GMT
#58
hahaha. The highest gust recordered recently was in Islip, NY. That's eastern long island. hundreds of miles away from the center. pretty bad ass.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 29 2012 23:26 GMT
#59
Got a lot of friends out on the east coast. So far all have checked in, so I am optomistic. I am hiding in minnesota as usual just glad sandy isn't turning into snow for us.
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 23:26:34
October 29 2012 23:26 GMT
#60
At best a category 1 storm. Most East Coast residences are on hills.

The worst thing that could happen is some road closures and electrical outages of poorer neighborhoods. Life goes on~

(The best part about it is that the homicide rates in cities will drop dramatically because fewer people are outside.)
A time to live.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 23:28:39
October 29 2012 23:27 GMT
#61
mfw a storm, flooded homes, and power outages implies less murder. dramatically.

On October 30 2012 08:26 ShatterZer0 wrote:
At best a category 1 storm. Most East Coast residences are on hills.

The worst thing that could happen is some road closures and electrical outages of poorer neighborhoods. Life goes on~

(The best part about it is that the homicide rates in cities will drop dramatically because fewer people are outside.)

Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
October 29 2012 23:34 GMT
#62
On October 30 2012 08:26 ShatterZer0 wrote:
At best a category 1 storm. Most East Coast residences are on hills.

The worst thing that could happen is some road closures and electrical outages of poorer neighborhoods. Life goes on~

(The best part about it is that the homicide rates in cities will drop dramatically because fewer people are outside.)

Lmao... dat silver lining.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 29 2012 23:36 GMT
#63
Just some wind no problem.
[image loading]
twitch.tv/medrea
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
October 29 2012 23:37 GMT
#64
YOU SIR. HAVE A TREE IN YOUR ROOM.
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
October 29 2012 23:37 GMT
#65
On October 30 2012 08:36 Medrea wrote:
Just some wind no problem.
[image loading]

I hope that isn't your house!!
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 29 2012 23:40 GMT
#66
No it isnt lol.
twitch.tv/medrea
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
October 29 2012 23:40 GMT
#67
On October 30 2012 08:36 Medrea wrote:
Just some wind no problem.
[image loading]


Bro. You got wood.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 29 2012 23:41 GMT
#68
I live in Connecticut. Hurricane isnt even coming here.
twitch.tv/medrea
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
October 29 2012 23:41 GMT
#69
On October 30 2012 08:04 bjornkavist wrote:
Tons of rain here in southern Ontario Canada right now, I think it's slowed down a bit just now, I'm not sure though cause I'm in class.

Supposedly we're supposed to get the worst around midnight - 4 am, but who knows.
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6657 Posts
October 29 2012 23:43 GMT
#70
On October 30 2012 08:41 crawlingchaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 08:04 bjornkavist wrote:
Tons of rain here in southern Ontario Canada right now, I think it's slowed down a bit just now, I'm not sure though cause I'm in class.

Supposedly we're supposed to get the worst around midnight - 4 am, but who knows.

Gonna make staying up for the GSL tonight fun! I swear to god though... if my power goes out while trying to watch GSL after staying up all night.... I will run into the streets with an axe and kill the hurricane... Thats right I will kill a fucking hurricane....
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 29 2012 23:43 GMT
#71
The late october storm we had last year was way worse.

2 feet of snow and all the trees had most of their leaves. All you could hear all night was the sound of trees cracking.
twitch.tv/medrea
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 29 2012 23:47 GMT
#72
Heres a blog site I found that has some crazy pants on head theories about black holes and dark matter causing this storm.

http://darkmattersalot.com/2012/10/27/like-a-swarm-of-black-flies/
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 29 2012 23:47 GMT
#73
cambridge ma here

left my window open like a quarter of an inch and now my bed is partially wet .-. hopefully you other east coasters wont get hurt!
dats racist
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
October 29 2012 23:47 GMT
#74
On October 30 2012 08:43 Medrea wrote:
The late october storm we had last year was way worse.

2 feet of snow and all the trees had most of their leaves. All you could hear all night was the sound of trees cracking.


I remember that. It was pretty cool the night of the storm watching out my window. You couldn't see anything except white, but the sparks from various power lines going down looked like fireworks. It won't hit NY for another day, but all I see is sideways rain. Which is kinda cool to experience I guess, LOL.
The Fish
Profile Joined March 2011
United States176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 00:04:16
October 29 2012 23:50 GMT
#75
A tree fell a bit down the road and is leaning on the power lines. Another tree (they're quite tall btw) fell onto our front lawn, taking down 2 other trees with it. I'm surprised we still have power. Fun times!
Edit: Ah! The surges!
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
October 29 2012 23:57 GMT
#76
On October 30 2012 08:43 Medrea wrote:
The late october storm we had last year was way worse.

2 feet of snow and all the trees had most of their leaves. All you could hear all night was the sound of trees cracking.

Give me snow over flooding any day of the week. Flooding causes way more damage.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
October 30 2012 00:01 GMT
#77
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.


This is the Northeast. We're used to dealing with double digit feet of snow. This whole "unfrozen snow" thing that's hitting us is confusing.

In all seriousness, I'm living in Central New York State. Sandy is supposed to go right over my town as it's going from "tropical storm" to "tropical depression." Minus power outages from the wind, we should be ok.
The people in Jersey and NYC and DC are gonna have it rough stay safe
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
October 30 2012 00:04 GMT
#78
On October 30 2012 08:36 Medrea wrote:
Just some wind no problem.
[image loading]


HAHAHA

The schadenfreude...it's too thick for me to breathe.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Kroml
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 00:07:59
October 30 2012 00:06 GMT
#79
On October 30 2012 08:36 Medrea wrote:
Just some wind no problem.
[image loading]

Knock on wood, man! I heard there is a hurricane over there
saladToss
Profile Joined June 2012
United States75 Posts
October 30 2012 00:10 GMT
#80
On October 30 2012 07:54 Gene wrote:
they alternate male female.

Pretty ironic that all the tragic ones in recent memory are female
Ike being an exception.

Francis - that's a boy name right?
Time is like a fuse, short and burning fast
Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
October 30 2012 00:10 GMT
#81
It is pretty much over the top of my house at the moment, just wind and rain. Of course I recently moved up here from Fla so a Cat 1 to me isn't even cause to get excited. So just sitting here watching streams and listening to the soothing sounds of the wind howling across my screens.
ssi.bal-listic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States568 Posts
October 30 2012 00:16 GMT
#82
the winds going crazy here in queens, NY
thank god i still have power :D
"It's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you" "The strong one doesn't win, the one that wins is strong"
humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 00:27:31
October 30 2012 00:22 GMT
#83
Looks serious enough for me. Do NOT walk out into water to your car like some people in these pictures, it is extremely dangerous.

Pictures:
http://twitter.com/reedtimmerTVN

edit: i have not seen these pictures other places, in fact media are asking him on twitter to use them.
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
October 30 2012 00:23 GMT
#84
On October 30 2012 09:10 Dekoth wrote:
It is pretty much over the top of my house at the moment, just wind and rain. Of course I recently moved up here from Fla so a Cat 1 to me isn't even cause to get excited. So just sitting here watching streams and listening to the soothing sounds of the wind howling across my screens.


a historical flood might get you "excited"...
xlord 5:0
Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
October 30 2012 00:26 GMT
#85
Up here in Southern Ontario it's not TOO bad but theres still strong winds and the news are saying the power might go out.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 00:28:45
October 30 2012 00:28 GMT
#86
Funny how many Floridians all of a sudden showed up on TL as soon as this thread was made
(Funnier that they're all salty bastards that have seen an eyewall and pissed upwards)
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Thienan567
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States670 Posts
October 30 2012 00:28 GMT
#87
On October 30 2012 09:10 saladToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 07:54 Gene wrote:
they alternate male female.

Pretty ironic that all the tragic ones in recent memory are female
Ike being an exception.

Francis - that's a boy name right?


It's unigender.
helvete
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden276 Posts
October 30 2012 00:34 GMT
#88
On October 30 2012 09:28 Thienan567 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 09:10 saladToss wrote:
On October 30 2012 07:54 Gene wrote:
they alternate male female.

Pretty ironic that all the tragic ones in recent memory are female
Ike being an exception.

Francis - that's a boy name right?


It's unigender.

No, Frances is the female version. Sometimes it's Francine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_(given_name)
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
October 30 2012 00:37 GMT
#89
I have a friend named sandy who's absolutely delighted to have one named after her.

On topic: I live in cali and haven't had to experience such a natural cause yet. I hope everyone can be okay.
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
saladToss
Profile Joined June 2012
United States75 Posts
October 30 2012 00:39 GMT
#90
On October 30 2012 09:34 helvete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 09:28 Thienan567 wrote:
On October 30 2012 09:10 saladToss wrote:
On October 30 2012 07:54 Gene wrote:
they alternate male female.

Pretty ironic that all the tragic ones in recent memory are female
Ike being an exception.

Francis - that's a boy name right?


It's unigender.

No, Frances is the female version. Sometimes it's Francine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_(given_name)

Nice. I didn't realize that was the spelling - but I do remember the pine trees swaying to completely horizontal during it.
Time is like a fuse, short and burning fast
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19063 Posts
October 30 2012 00:41 GMT
#91
My power was out for 3 hours or so but it's back now.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
lee365
Profile Joined December 2010
United States448 Posts
October 30 2012 00:44 GMT
#92
These random surges are preventing me from playing sc2 T_T
Terran Fighting! NoSoupfOu.517
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 00:45:31
October 30 2012 00:44 GMT
#93
[image loading]

I'm not a New Yorker but I assume this is real bad?

Edit: oh its only the road tunnel part
Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
October 30 2012 00:50 GMT
#94
On October 30 2012 09:23 Awesomeness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 09:10 Dekoth wrote:
It is pretty much over the top of my house at the moment, just wind and rain. Of course I recently moved up here from Fla so a Cat 1 to me isn't even cause to get excited. So just sitting here watching streams and listening to the soothing sounds of the wind howling across my screens.


a historical flood might get you "excited"...


Lucky me I am not in a flood zone. :D Interesting that was one of the demands I made of my real estate agent when looking, No flood zones.

On October 30 2012 09:28 Probe1 wrote:
Funny how many Floridians all of a sudden showed up on TL as soon as this thread was made
(Funnier that they're all salty bastards that have seen an eyewall and pissed upwards)


It isn't that we are all salty bastards, it is that we have likely seen a hurricane or two and a Cat 1, not even that by the time it got to me is hardly worrisome unless you live directly on the coast. Now granted those people are getting shafted, but that is something you expect living on the coast and have insurance for. Now the guy who said he wasn't worried in a cat 3 was clearly exaggerating. Even those of us who have gone through a few are leaving town on a cat 3. Cat 2 is questionable, depends where you live and such. Generally worth leaving for this because everything is going to be shut down for days anyhow. A cat 1 however is pretty much a long lasting bad storm. You are going to get flooding on the coasts (see insurance and expected), you are going to get wind damage though usually not usually major and a freaking ton of rain. Beyond that, there isn't much too one. Flying objects during extremely heavy gusts and morons are the most dangerous things in a cat 1 outside of coastal surge. Personally I fear extremely strong summer thunderstorms far more. Those typically cause far far more damage for their short lives.
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
October 30 2012 00:52 GMT
#95
Coney island is screwed. Emergency personnel are being evacuated. It's really bad in lower manhattan also. Becareful people.
eZmode
Profile Joined January 2011
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 01:02:17
October 30 2012 00:55 GMT
#96
Someone told me that electricity in Brooklyn (in NYC) is going to suspended in the next couple of hours. Does anyone know if this is true or not?
Why do today what you can leave for tomorrow?
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
October 30 2012 00:57 GMT
#97
How does this compare to the other "biggest hurricanes in history"? I'm not very smart.
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 00:58:07
October 30 2012 00:57 GMT
#98
The thing is that New York City is right on the coast and taking the worst flooding and the water is still rising some. Lower Manhattan and parts of Brooklyn are basically underwater, and the flooding is way disproportionate to a normal category 1 and in way more populated areas.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
October 30 2012 00:57 GMT
#99
On October 30 2012 09:55 eZmode wrote:
Someone told me that electricity in Brooklyn (in NYC) is going to suspended in the new couple of hours. Does anyone know if this is true or not?


Most likely, heavy flooding with lots of underground power = Temp turn stuff off. It is easier to protect the integrity of the system that way.
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
October 30 2012 00:57 GMT
#100
I don't leave during cat 3 storms....it's not worth evacuating unless you're literally on the coast. I'm from central FL btw. Category ones are nothing in comparison to cat 3+, it's not worth worrying over too much. You might have no power for awhile, so there's that. But you won't be getting swept off your feet and having debris fly into your skull ;p.
Hark!
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
October 30 2012 00:58 GMT
#101
On October 30 2012 09:22 humblegar wrote:
Looks serious enough for me. Do NOT walk out into water to your car like some people in these pictures, it is extremely dangerous.

Pictures:
http://twitter.com/reedtimmerTVN

edit: i have not seen these pictures other places, in fact media are asking him on twitter to use them.

People actually do that? I would just leave them alone and let natural selection run its course if that's the case...
eZmode
Profile Joined January 2011
United States52 Posts
October 30 2012 01:00 GMT
#102
On October 30 2012 09:57 Dekoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 09:55 eZmode wrote:
Someone told me that electricity in Brooklyn (in NYC) is going to suspended in the new couple of hours. Does anyone know if this is true or not?


Most likely, heavy flooding with lots of underground power = Temp turn stuff off. It is easier to protect the integrity of the system that way.


I see, better charge all my stuff while I still can LOL
Why do today what you can leave for tomorrow?
Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
October 30 2012 01:02 GMT
#103
I'm in northeastern Pennsylvania and all classes at my University (and all of the school districts it seems) have been canceled for two days. Honestly today wasn't nearly bad enough to warrant getting out, all it's been so far is some moderate rain and winds. We'll see how tonight / tomorrow goes though.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 30 2012 01:03 GMT
#104
~.~
A category 1 hurricane in florida is entirely different than one in the Tri-state area. If you've never lived in both areas you honestly have no idea how terrible a hurricane can be in the north in comparison to Florida.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 30 2012 01:04 GMT
#105
On October 30 2012 09:57 Depetrify wrote:
How does this compare to the other "biggest hurricanes in history"? I'm not very smart.

Living in NYC, i havent really faced hurricanes bigger than Irene (irene was a lot tinier and even that was bigger than the usual hurricanes that go by)
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 01:08:34
October 30 2012 01:07 GMT
#106
Don't live on the coast if you arn't prepared to handle warranted hurricanes produced by the ocean.

Granted NYC is less prepared than Florida I'll give you that but this is really just a giant storm thats gonna produce alot of flooding nothing more. Nothing that should make people go full disaster mode, unless of course they were stupid enough to build below sea level.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
October 30 2012 01:08 GMT
#107
On October 30 2012 09:57 Depetrify wrote:
How does this compare to the other "biggest hurricanes in history"? I'm not very smart.

It's not as powerful as a great many that mostly hit further south, but this is one of the biggest ones to come up north, especially the flooding, the water is higher than it's ever flooded New York City before in history.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Zhou
Profile Joined February 2009
United States832 Posts
October 30 2012 01:10 GMT
#108
This one also happens to be a pretty big deal because it meets with a european front, and our neighboring canadian front. I don't think New York City has had anything like this in such a looong time.
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
October 30 2012 01:11 GMT
#109
Up to four feet of water in the east side subway tunnel.
A roof collapsed in brooklynn two people are trapped.
Landslide alerts for Virginia pa and md.

All bridges and tunnels in and out are closed NYC
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
October 30 2012 01:13 GMT
#110
My power died out... right AFTER my DOTA game! 1337 hurricane!!!!!!
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
October 30 2012 01:14 GMT
#111
Maybe I'm just ignorant, does larger necessarily mean more powerful? I'm in central New York, and we're not getting jack shit.
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
Zhou
Profile Joined February 2009
United States832 Posts
October 30 2012 01:16 GMT
#112
On October 30 2012 10:14 ayaz2810 wrote:
Maybe I'm just ignorant, does larger necessarily mean more powerful? I'm in central New York, and we're not getting jack shit.


We're probably not going to get anything until later. It recently just hit high tide and all, so expect something to happen over night maybe? I have a little rain and such, but nothing drastic or relevant. (Binghamton here, it's usually rainy.)
YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
October 30 2012 01:16 GMT
#113
Natural disasters, the gamers natural enemy
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 01:21:53
October 30 2012 01:19 GMT
#114
60th precinct is currently trapped in the station.
One world trade lights are out
Water reported up to the attict in staten island
Bellevue hospital generators are failing They are submerged in water
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
October 30 2012 01:21 GMT
#115
On October 30 2012 09:57 Deadlyhazard wrote:
I don't leave during cat 3 storms....it's not worth evacuating unless you're literally on the coast. I'm from central FL btw. Category ones are nothing in comparison to cat 3+, it's not worth worrying over too much. You might have no power for awhile, so there's that. But you won't be getting swept off your feet and having debris fly into your skull ;p.


We should send all of you pirates of the seven seas, to break the news of the victims deaths to their families.
Or enlist you for a couple of firefighting watches, that would be fun, right?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
October 30 2012 01:21 GMT
#116
On October 30 2012 10:16 Zhou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 10:14 ayaz2810 wrote:
Maybe I'm just ignorant, does larger necessarily mean more powerful? I'm in central New York, and we're not getting jack shit.


We're probably not going to get anything until later. It recently just hit high tide and all, so expect something to happen over night maybe? I have a little rain and such, but nothing drastic or relevant. (Binghamton here, it's usually rainy.)


Syracuse here. Got like 20MPH winds and no rain to speak of. Meh.
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
October 30 2012 01:22 GMT
#117
I am currently in the eye of the hurricane.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
October 30 2012 01:24 GMT
#118
i just rode my bicycle through it in md, what a rush man
the wind slammed me down at one point though so i'm prob going to have to get my knee checked out :/
Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
October 30 2012 01:27 GMT
#119
On October 30 2012 10:03 BlackPaladin wrote:
~.~
A category 1 hurricane in florida is entirely different than one in the Tri-state area. If you've never lived in both areas you honestly have no idea how terrible a hurricane can be in the north in comparison to Florida.


This might be true, I will find out over the next 48 hours or so. Currently, it is pretty much the same shit different state. I will post pretty regularly in this thread, so if I disappear for a couple of days expect I am on the phone with time warner bitching that Brighthouse didn't drop my cable during a cat 1. :D
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
October 30 2012 01:29 GMT
#120
Debris falling from a skyscraper on 6th.
Many fires going on, but emergency services cannot reach due to 6 feet of water in the road ways

I'm receiving these updates from never forget 9/11 page. He is getting them from scanners.
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
October 30 2012 01:30 GMT
#121
On October 30 2012 10:22 Depetrify wrote:
I am currently in the eye of the hurricane.

I call bs. How would you have power?
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
October 30 2012 01:31 GMT
#122
im just outside northern DC with a notoriously tragic power company, and still surprisingly have power.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
October 30 2012 01:31 GMT
#123
On October 30 2012 10:30 Antylamon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 10:22 Depetrify wrote:
I am currently in the eye of the hurricane.

I call bs. How would you have power?

generator, a better question is how he'd have internet
then again i haven't lost either and i'm near baltimore which isn't that far
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
October 30 2012 01:33 GMT
#124
also, in these wonderous times, one doesnt need electricity nor internet to post on team liquid. I accomplish this task every day through my wonderful cellular provider and this handy dandy iphone
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 01:37:43
October 30 2012 01:35 GMT
#125
On October 30 2012 10:31 unit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 10:30 Antylamon wrote:
On October 30 2012 10:22 Depetrify wrote:
I am currently in the eye of the hurricane.

I call bs. How would you have power?

generator, a better question is how he'd have internet
then again i haven't lost either and i'm near baltimore which isn't that far

D'oh

That's what I meant, though. Power and internet are synonymous here since I have wireless. :/

On October 30 2012 10:33 Gene wrote:
also, in these wonderous times, one doesnt need electricity nor internet to post on team liquid. I accomplish this task every day through my wonderful cellular provider and this handy dandy iphone

What does your phone run on, then? ATP? Glucose?
Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
October 30 2012 01:37 GMT
#126
On October 30 2012 10:33 Gene wrote:
also, in these wonderous times, one doesnt need electricity nor internet to post on team liquid. I accomplish this task every day through my wonderful cellular provider and this handy dandy iphone

good point.
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Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
October 30 2012 01:41 GMT
#127
On October 30 2012 10:35 Antylamon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 10:31 unit wrote:
On October 30 2012 10:30 Antylamon wrote:
On October 30 2012 10:22 Depetrify wrote:
I am currently in the eye of the hurricane.

I call bs. How would you have power?

generator, a better question is how he'd have internet
then again i haven't lost either and i'm near baltimore which isn't that far

D'oh

That's what I meant, though. Power and internet are synonymous here since I have wireless. :/

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 10:33 Gene wrote:
also, in these wonderous times, one doesnt need electricity nor internet to post on team liquid. I accomplish this task every day through my wonderful cellular provider and this handy dandy iphone

What does your phone run on, then? ATP? Glucose?


I would assume it's running on a battery, but I don't have a smart phone so who knows.
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Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
October 30 2012 01:41 GMT
#128
On October 30 2012 10:35 Antylamon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 10:31 unit wrote:
On October 30 2012 10:30 Antylamon wrote:
On October 30 2012 10:22 Depetrify wrote:
I am currently in the eye of the hurricane.

I call bs. How would you have power?

generator, a better question is how he'd have internet
then again i haven't lost either and i'm near baltimore which isn't that far

D'oh

That's what I meant, though. Power and internet are synonymous here since I have wireless. :/

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 10:33 Gene wrote:
also, in these wonderous times, one doesnt need electricity nor internet to post on team liquid. I accomplish this task every day through my wonderful cellular provider and this handy dandy iphone

What does your phone run on, then? ATP? Glucose?


Some of us have taken the time to root and mod our cell phone so it isn't a battery draining hog. I happen to get a couple of days off my galaxy nexus when fully charged, unless I am using gps or hotspot obviously. Then there is also this lovely invention. http://www.amazon.com/Multi-Brand-Cell-Phone-Quick-Charger/sim/B0010OCOAY/2 couple that with the fact that I have two young kids and usually a holy crapton of AA batteries at any given point and well...i can keep my cell going for a long ass time.
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
October 30 2012 01:44 GMT
#129
I am literally in the eye of the hurricane in the ocean.
ChiknAdobo
Profile Joined November 2010
United States208 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 01:49:58
October 30 2012 01:47 GMT
#130
I don't watch the news so I'm immune to the hysteria. I prefer to get my news from TL less bias than the media.

Edit: I received an email from Obama about Sandy!! I'm so starstruck OMG!!!11!!1!!!!
ZERg
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 01:49:52
October 30 2012 01:48 GMT
#131
On October 30 2012 10:35 Antylamon wrote:
Show nested quote +

also, in these wonderous times, one doesnt need electricity nor internet to post on team liquid. I accomplish this task every day through my wonderful cellular provider and this handy dandy iphone

What does your phone run on, then? ATP? Glucose?


naw man, I just use the battery that comes with it. That way, when all the electricity goes out an I can still post to Team Liquid.

I know. It's revolutionary.
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
October 30 2012 01:49 GMT
#132
On October 30 2012 10:48 Gene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 10:35 Antylamon wrote:

also, in these wonderous times, one doesnt need electricity nor internet to post on team liquid. I accomplish this task every day through my wonderful cellular provider and this handy dandy iphone

What does your phone run on, then? ATP? Glucose?


naw man, I just use the battery that comes with it. That way, when all the electricity goes out and I cant plug anything in, my phone still runs

I know. It's revolutionary.

You know I was joking, right?
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
October 30 2012 01:50 GMT
#133
New York stock exchange flooded on three feet of water

First reported death in ny is a firefighter after a tree falls on his truck.
Connecticut governor "our worst fears are being reached due to flooding"
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 30 2012 01:51 GMT
#134
On October 30 2012 10:31 unit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 10:30 Antylamon wrote:
On October 30 2012 10:22 Depetrify wrote:
I am currently in the eye of the hurricane.

I call bs. How would you have power?

generator, a better question is how he'd have internet
then again i haven't lost either and i'm near baltimore which isn't that far


when i was younger and living in louisiana the power would go out when a tree fell onto the power lines but the cable was all under ground so the internet would usually work when the generator kicked on.
dude bro.
`phobiA
Profile Joined September 2012
51 Posts
October 30 2012 01:59 GMT
#135
I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad:

1.) 90mph+ winds
2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front
3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes
4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow
5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up?
6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain

So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE!
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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 02:17:15
October 30 2012 02:14 GMT
#136
On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote:
I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad:

1.) 90mph+ winds
2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front
3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes
4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow
5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up?
6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain

So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE!


Wind gusts are topping out in the 60s. Sustained are half that. There are no 90+ mph winds. The real damage is going to be water damage.
dude bro.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 02:17:09
October 30 2012 02:15 GMT
#137
On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote:
I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad:

1.) 90mph+ winds
2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front
3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes
4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow
5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up?
6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain

So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE!


You missed the most important reason this storm is bad.

7) People in the Northeast have little if any experience with hurricanes (they are not like Nor'easters; I've been through both), and this includes building codes, power grid design, and storm water management. This is why the subways are not running.

The wind is a problem, but the sheer amount of rain falling EVERYWHERE for the next few days will tax the normal drainage, and they aren't designed for it. It's like an earthquake - they happen so infrequently that the Northeast doesn't think of them when they develop building codes.

Sandy is a wuss to most of Florida - but Florida always has Hurricanes in mind, we have monster storm drainage systems (some of our normal thundershowers drop 6-9" of rain), and buildings are built to code to withstand high winds.

Stay safe, listen to the weather men and emergency management people, and make sure you have flood insurance.

Edited in - oh, and the underlying geology is different in the two regions. There's actually bedrock in the Northeast, and while there are swamps they aren't as extensive.
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`phobiA
Profile Joined September 2012
51 Posts
October 30 2012 02:18 GMT
#138
On October 30 2012 11:14 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote:
I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad:

1.) 90mph+ winds
2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front
3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes
4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow
5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up?
6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain

So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE!


Wind gusts are topping out in the 60s. Sustained are half that. There are no 90+ mph winds. The real damage is going to be water damage.


Just five minutes ago The Weather Channel was reporting 94 mph gusts in NY... with 70+ all around the coast.
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
October 30 2012 02:18 GMT
#139
On October 30 2012 11:15 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote:
I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad:

1.) 90mph+ winds
2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front
3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes
4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow
5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up?
6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain

So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE!


You missed the most important reason this storm is bad.

7) People in the Northeast have little if any experience with hurricanes (they are not like Nor'easters; I've been through both), and this includes building codes, power grid design, and storm water management. This is why the subways are not running.

The wind is a problem, but the sheer amount of rain falling EVERYWHERE for the next few days will tax the normal drainage, and they aren't designed for it. It's like an earthquake - they happen so infrequently that the Northeast doesn't think of them when they develop building codes.

Sandy is a wuss to most of Florida - but Florida always has Hurricanes in mind, we have monster storm drainage systems (some of our normal thundershowers drop 6-9" of rain), and buildings are built to code to withstand high winds.

Stay safe, listen to the weather men and emergency management people, and make sure you have flood insurance.

Edited in - oh, and the underlying geology is different in the two regions. There's actually bedrock in the Northeast, and while there are swamps they aren't as extensive.


I guess its like if the south got a foot or two of snow lol

#No power still on tl

Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 30 2012 02:23 GMT
#140
On October 30 2012 11:18 `phobiA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 11:14 heliusx wrote:
On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote:
I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad:

1.) 90mph+ winds
2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front
3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes
4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow
5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up?
6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain

So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE!


Wind gusts are topping out in the 60s. Sustained are half that. There are no 90+ mph winds. The real damage is going to be water damage.


Just five minutes ago The Weather Channel was reporting 94 mph gusts in NY... with 70+ all around the coast.


that's where i saw the wind map on their website =/
dude bro.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
October 30 2012 02:23 GMT
#141
All I can say is that the GTA area is just being hammered with rain and gust right now.
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leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
October 30 2012 02:26 GMT
#142
On October 30 2012 11:23 PhoenixVoid wrote:
All I can say is that the GTA area is just being hammered with rain and gust right now.


wow... even GTA is affected?
Never thought it would reach that far...
What are you tinkering about?
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
October 30 2012 02:26 GMT
#143
On October 30 2012 11:14 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote:
I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad:

1.) 90mph+ winds
2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front
3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes
4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow
5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up?
6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain

So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE!


Wind gusts are topping out in the 60s. Sustained are half that. There are no 90+ mph winds. The real damage is going to be water damage.

Tell that to my house that was hit by one of the trees in the yard which were knocked over by the high winds.
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 30 2012 02:28 GMT
#144
On October 30 2012 11:18 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 11:15 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote:
I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad:

1.) 90mph+ winds
2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front
3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes
4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow
5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up?
6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain

So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE!


You missed the most important reason this storm is bad.

7) People in the Northeast have little if any experience with hurricanes (they are not like Nor'easters; I've been through both), and this includes building codes, power grid design, and storm water management. This is why the subways are not running.

The wind is a problem, but the sheer amount of rain falling EVERYWHERE for the next few days will tax the normal drainage, and they aren't designed for it. It's like an earthquake - they happen so infrequently that the Northeast doesn't think of them when they develop building codes.

Sandy is a wuss to most of Florida - but Florida always has Hurricanes in mind, we have monster storm drainage systems (some of our normal thundershowers drop 6-9" of rain), and buildings are built to code to withstand high winds.

Stay safe, listen to the weather men and emergency management people, and make sure you have flood insurance.

Edited in - oh, and the underlying geology is different in the two regions. There's actually bedrock in the Northeast, and while there are swamps they aren't as extensive.


I guess its like if the south got a foot or two of snow lol

#No power still on tl



Pretty much. Snow and ice hitting down here and everything would shut down. Excessive snow would collapse houses, since the flat roof is bad for the weight. But that is exceedingly rare. Temperatures below freezing are pretty bad, too, because people don't see ice on roadways often in the South.
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b0ub0u
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada445 Posts
October 30 2012 02:31 GMT
#145
Strong winds in Montreal right now. Little bit crazy outside but man looking at NYC, incredible omg.
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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 30 2012 02:31 GMT
#146
On October 30 2012 11:26 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 11:14 heliusx wrote:
On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote:
I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad:

1.) 90mph+ winds
2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front
3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes
4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow
5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up?
6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain

So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE!


Wind gusts are topping out in the 60s. Sustained are half that. There are no 90+ mph winds. The real damage is going to be water damage.

Tell that to my house that was hit by one of the trees in the yard which were knocked over by the high winds.

How do I reach it? More seriously soggy ground makes trees vulnerable to gusts.
dude bro.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 30 2012 02:33 GMT
#147
On October 30 2012 11:28 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 11:18 CeriseCherries wrote:
On October 30 2012 11:15 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote:
I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad:

1.) 90mph+ winds
2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front
3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes
4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow
5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up?
6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain

So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE!


You missed the most important reason this storm is bad.

7) People in the Northeast have little if any experience with hurricanes (they are not like Nor'easters; I've been through both), and this includes building codes, power grid design, and storm water management. This is why the subways are not running.

The wind is a problem, but the sheer amount of rain falling EVERYWHERE for the next few days will tax the normal drainage, and they aren't designed for it. It's like an earthquake - they happen so infrequently that the Northeast doesn't think of them when they develop building codes.

Sandy is a wuss to most of Florida - but Florida always has Hurricanes in mind, we have monster storm drainage systems (some of our normal thundershowers drop 6-9" of rain), and buildings are built to code to withstand high winds.

Stay safe, listen to the weather men and emergency management people, and make sure you have flood insurance.

Edited in - oh, and the underlying geology is different in the two regions. There's actually bedrock in the Northeast, and while there are swamps they aren't as extensive.


I guess its like if the south got a foot or two of snow lol

#No power still on tl



Pretty much. Snow and ice hitting down here and everything would shut down. Excessive snow would collapse houses, since the flat roof is bad for the weight. But that is exceedingly rare. Temperatures below freezing are pretty bad, too, because people don't see ice on roadways often in the South.


Kids in the south would be ecstatic if there was a foot of snow. Not many southerners have seen much snow except for some older people.
dude bro.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
October 30 2012 02:34 GMT
#148
I'm in central North Carolina and you would hardly even guess there's a hurricane. We had some high winds this afternoon, but right now all is calm.
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
October 30 2012 02:36 GMT
#149
NYU Hospital lost power, and backup power. They have to evacuate patients in this weather.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 30 2012 02:39 GMT
#150
On October 30 2012 11:36 Gene wrote:
NYU Hospital lost power, and backup power. They have to evacuate patients in this weather.

That's pretty bad. You would think a hospital would have backup backup generators. >.<
dude bro.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 02:42:08
October 30 2012 02:39 GMT
#151
Not sure if we've officially crossed 400k without power yet (it was a bit over 300k in my broadcast area). My local area is currently pretty lightly hit, but northern virginia got hammered.

I like that Google always manages to have topically relevant search headers.

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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 02:42:58
October 30 2012 02:42 GMT
#152
On October 30 2012 11:39 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 11:36 Gene wrote:
NYU Hospital lost power, and backup power. They have to evacuate patients in this weather.

That's pretty bad. You would think a hospital would have backup backup generators. >.<


Like most things in NYC, I would venture to guess that the backup generators are in a basement which is probably now flooded as well. Hence the backup also being down in the statement you quoted.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
October 30 2012 02:42 GMT
#153
Apparently there are over 2 million people without power nationwide.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57542015/hurricane-sandy-more-than-2-million-already-without-power/
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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 30 2012 02:48 GMT
#154
On October 30 2012 11:42 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 11:39 heliusx wrote:
On October 30 2012 11:36 Gene wrote:
NYU Hospital lost power, and backup power. They have to evacuate patients in this weather.

That's pretty bad. You would think a hospital would have backup backup generators. >.<


Like most things in NYC, I would venture to guess that the backup generators are in a basement which is probably now flooded as well. Hence the backup also being down in the statement you quoted.

I dunno, it would seem really stupid to put generators below the ground in a flood zone. Especially in a hospital.
dude bro.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 02:50:11
October 30 2012 02:49 GMT
#155
On October 30 2012 11:42 Craton wrote:
Apparently there are over 2 million people without power nationwide.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57542015/hurricane-sandy-more-than-2-million-already-without-power/


CNN is reporting 2.8 million. Regardless, it's a lot

the 8:22pm update
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Microsloth
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada194 Posts
October 30 2012 02:57 GMT
#156
After Katrina, weather networks and emergency crews are going to lean towards preparing people for the worst. So yeah, it seems like they're hyping it up, but why not? Hype it up, people get prepared (or should). Don't hype it up, and people get fucked up.

If you were a weather network, or someone making these decisions, would you "tell NY to suck it up and deal yo, cause down in FL we got mad hurri-skills".. or would you try to prepare people accordingly.

Nothing wrong with taking the side of caution. You didn't have to go to school.. AND there was no crazy ass storm??? AWESOME Celebrate bros lol
Double digit APM. ftw?
Czech M8
Profile Joined April 2012
United States16 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 03:01:55
October 30 2012 03:01 GMT
#157
Hurricane Sandy thread? More like QQ thread.

User was warned for this post
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 30 2012 03:04 GMT
#158
On October 30 2012 11:57 Microsloth wrote:
After Katrina, weather networks and emergency crews are going to lean towards preparing people for the worst. So yeah, it seems like they're hyping it up, but why not? Hype it up, people get prepared (or should). Don't hype it up, and people get fucked up.

If you were a weather network, or someone making these decisions, would you "tell NY to suck it up and deal yo, cause down in FL we got mad hurri-skills".. or would you try to prepare people accordingly.

Nothing wrong with taking the side of caution. You didn't have to go to school.. AND there was no crazy ass storm??? AWESOME Celebrate bros lol


suck it up, i flew my hang glider into katrina.
dude bro.
ECHOZs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States499 Posts
October 30 2012 03:05 GMT
#159
WASHINGTON — The nation’s oldest nuclear power plant is on alert after waters from a colossal storm reached high levels.

Oyster Creek in Lacey Township, N.J., was already offline for regular maintenance before Sandy, a superstorm downgraded Monday night from a hurricane, slammed the East Coast.

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission says an “unusual event” was declared around 7 p.m. when water reached a high level. The situation was upgraded less than two hours later to an “alert,” the second-lowest in a four-tiered warning system.

Federal officials say all nuclear plants are still in safe condition. They say water levels near Oyster Creek, which is along the Atlantic Ocean, will likely recede within a few hours.

Oyster Creek went online in 1969 and provides 9 percent of New Jersey’s electricity.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal_government/nuclear-power-plants-prepare-to-shut-down-if-storm-sends-water-wind-levels-too-high/2012/10/29/e8e5dc6e-2226-11e2-92f8-7f9c4daf276a_story.html
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 03:15:40
October 30 2012 03:14 GMT
#160
On October 30 2012 11:57 Microsloth wrote:
After Katrina, weather networks and emergency crews are going to lean towards preparing people for the worst. So yeah, it seems like they're hyping it up, but why not? Hype it up, people get prepared (or should). Don't hype it up, and people get fucked up.

If you were a weather network, or someone making these decisions, would you "tell NY to suck it up and deal yo, cause down in FL we got mad hurri-skills".. or would you try to prepare people accordingly.

Nothing wrong with taking the side of caution. You didn't have to go to school.. AND there was no crazy ass storm??? AWESOME Celebrate bros lol


I agree. Erring on the side of caution is better than being caught unprepared. Then again, either way doesn't impact me personally that much - during Isaac I had to go to work. (Being less than 1.6 miles from my place of employment, and the nature of my job, means that odds are I will still be at work even when no one else has to report.) Then again, one of my older brothers was actually on a radio transmitter tower during a hurricane in Mass (I think it was Hurricane Bob back in '91) so I probably can't complain too much.
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Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
October 30 2012 03:14 GMT
#161
On October 30 2012 12:05 ECHOZs wrote:
WASHINGTON — The nation’s oldest nuclear power plant is on alert after waters from a colossal storm reached high levels.

Oyster Creek in Lacey Township, N.J., was already offline for regular maintenance before Sandy, a superstorm downgraded Monday night from a hurricane, slammed the East Coast.

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission says an “unusual event” was declared around 7 p.m. when water reached a high level. The situation was upgraded less than two hours later to an “alert,” the second-lowest in a four-tiered warning system.

Federal officials say all nuclear plants are still in safe condition. They say water levels near Oyster Creek, which is along the Atlantic Ocean, will likely recede within a few hours.

Oyster Creek went online in 1969 and provides 9 percent of New Jersey’s electricity.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal_government/nuclear-power-plants-prepare-to-shut-down-if-storm-sends-water-wind-levels-too-high/2012/10/29/e8e5dc6e-2226-11e2-92f8-7f9c4daf276a_story.html

i live 5 minutes from there... im in philly now but wow...
ruffstyle89
Profile Joined April 2011
41 Posts
October 30 2012 03:16 GMT
#162
http://www.justin.tv/roxnation02#/w/4076907856

They are saying even into wed they will continue to get 45-60 MPH winds. Rain will be around for days. The worst of the storm will be over the next few days as the rain/wind just sits on top of the east coast.
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
October 30 2012 03:18 GMT
#163
im in MD, just lost internet, but using my phones 3g. saw vid of an explosion in NYC though, crazy
North Korea is best Korea!
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
October 30 2012 03:18 GMT
#164
It rained here in Miami when it passed but it has left us with some nice winds.
vpatrickd
Profile Joined November 2010
Indonesia279 Posts
October 30 2012 03:19 GMT
#165
someone posted this, found in Staten Island

[image loading]
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
October 30 2012 03:23 GMT
#166
On October 30 2012 12:19 vpatrickd wrote:
someone posted this, found in Staten Island

[image loading]


Holy shiet!!

Rofl that scared me rofl i wonder how these people livin there reacted o_O
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
October 30 2012 03:23 GMT
#167
On October 30 2012 12:19 vpatrickd wrote:
someone posted this, found in Staten Island

[image loading]


I'd be like, oh god oh god oh god oh god!
Take care people.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
DR.Ham
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands621 Posts
October 30 2012 03:23 GMT
#168
Some pretty amazing pictures of New York in this "article". Looks pretty nasty over there, I hope everyone is safe and sound.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225108/Hurricane-Sandy-2012-One-million-power-New-York-Bloomberg-warns-city-prepare-worst.html
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
October 30 2012 03:24 GMT
#169
On October 30 2012 12:19 vpatrickd wrote:
someone posted this, found in Staten Island

[image loading]

Awfully light out there!! Would guess that this shop, unless this happened at like 5PM. I don't think the storm surge was that high when it was light
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
October 30 2012 03:26 GMT
#170
holy shit that photo....fcken sharks?...
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Demurity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States424 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 03:27:04
October 30 2012 03:26 GMT
#171
My roommate and I just went outside in the crazy wind-rain storm and we took a tarp to try to see if the wind would take us up.... we DEFINITELY would have glided if we had some sort of board, considering there's like an inch high rain everywhere, including the streets. Felt like the wind was pulling with 100 lb of force.
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Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 03:27:21
October 30 2012 03:27 GMT
#172
On October 30 2012 12:26 Doraemon wrote:
holy shit that photo....fcken sharks?...

Good chance that's faked, because I've also read people say that this was in Jersey, in Maryland, etc. For context, I'm a Staten Islander.
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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
October 30 2012 03:29 GMT
#173
Holy crap, if that picture of that shark is real.
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Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
October 30 2012 10:05 GMT
#174
Looks like a small shark though. If you catch it and fillet it you can have so much meat, freeze it and shark steak for weeks.
Logic is Overrated
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
October 30 2012 10:06 GMT
#175
Hurricane Sandy is killing ESPORTS
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
October 30 2012 10:06 GMT
#176
Fuck you Sandy whole morning without TL.
Qumquat
Profile Joined April 2011
Israel353 Posts
October 30 2012 10:07 GMT
#177
Ugh, finally back to TL

Fuck you Sandy
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
October 30 2012 10:09 GMT
#178
I was so scared, don't leave me again TL~

ffxiv enjoyer
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 30 2012 10:11 GMT
#179
I could deal with other outages, but life felt a lot emptier without Team Liquid.

Sandy.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
vijeze
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands719 Posts
October 30 2012 10:11 GMT
#180
TL don't leave me again, ever.
HighdraL1sk
Profile Joined April 2012
United States140 Posts
October 30 2012 10:11 GMT
#181
team liquid omg how i missed you! sandy is a stupid cu... TEAM LIQUID YOUR FINALLY BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! only somewhat ok thing to happen bc of sandy is gsl on twtchtv right now. free 540p stream. and shark pic is from new jersey. be safe everyone...
Killmo
Profile Joined October 2011
China82 Posts
October 30 2012 10:14 GMT
#182
Whew! Finally got Team Liquid back. They forget who the real victims are.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44390 Posts
October 30 2012 10:15 GMT
#183
I couldn't get on TL for a few hours, what happened? x.x

I live in central/ north Jersey, and our power went out for a few hours but came back on. Up here, the hurricane pretty much missed us.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 10:21:45
October 30 2012 10:20 GMT
#184
On October 30 2012 19:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I couldn't get on TL for a few hours, what happened? x.x


TeamLiquid ‏@TeamLiquidnet
http://teamliquid.net is down from power loss, Hurricane Sandy is killing ESPORTS

Richard Stanway ‏@R1CH_TL
http://teamliquid.net is down from power loss caused by Hurricane Sandy. No ETA for when service will be restored.

Richard Stanway ‏@R1CH_TL
Looks like power is restored and http://teamliquid.net is back online for now!


from twitter
Titan999
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark67 Posts
October 30 2012 10:21 GMT
#185
Team Liquid is back " we will rebuild "
Incontrol: “A part of the question was for you to figure out what I meant…..”
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
October 30 2012 10:23 GMT
#186
Woman killed by flying debris in Toronto
YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
October 30 2012 10:23 GMT
#187
You can never really understand what it's like until it happens to you... Poor TL-less victims hang in there
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
October 30 2012 10:28 GMT
#188
Man you really need to put those power lines underground to prevent fires and everything from going dark and, more importantly, keep TL up.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44390 Posts
October 30 2012 10:47 GMT
#189
On October 30 2012 19:20 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 19:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I couldn't get on TL for a few hours, what happened? x.x


Show nested quote +
TeamLiquid ‏@TeamLiquidnet
http://teamliquid.net is down from power loss, Hurricane Sandy is killing ESPORTS

Richard Stanway ‏@R1CH_TL
http://teamliquid.net is down from power loss caused by Hurricane Sandy. No ETA for when service will be restored.

Richard Stanway ‏@R1CH_TL
Looks like power is restored and http://teamliquid.net is back online for now!


from twitter


Thanks I never check Twitters because I don't have one ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
October 30 2012 10:59 GMT
#190
On October 30 2012 19:06 feanor1 wrote:
Hurricane Sandy is killing ESPORTS

also people
Maruprime.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
October 30 2012 11:10 GMT
#191
On October 30 2012 19:59 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 19:06 feanor1 wrote:
Hurricane Sandy is killing ESPORTS

also people


ESPORTS is bigger than people.
Which is clearly shown by the fact that the word 'people' has no capital letters, while 'ESPORTS' has like all of them (seven to be more precise).
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humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
October 30 2012 11:21 GMT
#192
On October 30 2012 19:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 19:20 Nizaris wrote:
On October 30 2012 19:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I couldn't get on TL for a few hours, what happened? x.x


TeamLiquid ‏@TeamLiquidnet
http://teamliquid.net is down from power loss, Hurricane Sandy is killing ESPORTS

Richard Stanway ‏@R1CH_TL
http://teamliquid.net is down from power loss caused by Hurricane Sandy. No ETA for when service will be restored.

Richard Stanway ‏@R1CH_TL
Looks like power is restored and http://teamliquid.net is back online for now!


from twitter


Thanks I never check Twitters because I don't have one ^^


https://twitter.com/search?q=teamliquid
https://twitter.com/search?q=sandy

(or http)

Just in case someone does not know how to do that

Microsloth
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada194 Posts
October 30 2012 12:47 GMT
#193
Shark photo from Jersey is confirm fake. A lot of fakes out there. Kinda sad.
Double digit APM. ftw?
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
October 30 2012 12:51 GMT
#194
On October 30 2012 12:23 DR.Ham wrote:
Some pretty amazing pictures of New York in this "article". Looks pretty nasty over there, I hope everyone is safe and sound.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225108/Hurricane-Sandy-2012-One-million-power-New-York-Bloomberg-warns-city-prepare-worst.html

great post. those pictures look horrible
IM & EG supporter
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
October 30 2012 12:53 GMT
#195
That was not a very big storm for MA, we were hardly brushed when I look at those pictures of NYC.
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The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
October 30 2012 13:16 GMT
#196
Thoughts with everyone affected.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 13:22:01
October 30 2012 13:16 GMT
#197
I've been getting some flak from my friends for this opinion, but damn, this was probably a good thing as a wake up call for New York and other Northern Cities. This was a Cat 1 / Tropical Storm (been hearing different things from different sources) right? Let's look at some of the damage done here. The NYSE is closed for the second consecutive day, the first time in 150 years. Aall 3 NY airports are closed indefinitely, power and backup generators of several hospitals are out, tunnels and subway systems are completely flooded, entire transit system has been shut down for 3 days, downed live power lines everywhere, millions of gallons of water gushing into ground zero, trees falling into peoples houses and killing them in their beds, massive fallen trees blocking major streets, dead bodies floating in rivers where streets used to be.

From a Cat 1 / Tropical Storm. Imagine a Cat 3. A Cat 4 or 5 would destroy the city from flooding probably.

This is one of the most densely populated cities on Earth that is at sea level and is a COASTAL town, with a portion of the city as an ISLAND. It's quite literally the economic capital of the world, and it has essentially no defense against this kind of shit for some reason. No breakwaters, no levies, no diversionary tunnels, nothing. This isn't the first time this has happened too, but it's definitely going to happen again -- especially as hurricanes start to intensify if the climate begins to heat up.

This was something us Floridians would laugh off as a joke, I walked my dog in a Tropical Storm before and went swimming in a Cat 2. Yet this brought an entire city to its knees, a place like New York has to take every big storm like this seriously. RIP the dead, I hope those stranded (in the hundreds now I believe CNN said) stay safe and no more die from this shit. I hope most of all though that New York wakes the fuck up and does something too. I know the North just inherently isn't prepared for hurricanes like us in the South are, but there should be SOMETHING done imo. There's just no excuse with our level of technological prowess that something as basic as a tropical storm can do this much. But maybe I'm too much of an idealist and there's nothing we can do against ol' Mother Nature =/

But let's not take away from the disaster that this is. Best of luck to any that are adversely affected by this. I know what it's like to be hit with a bitch of a Hurricane, it's just devastating. Hopefully the government handles this right and we can get back on track as soon as this blows over.
nettleberry
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States201 Posts
October 30 2012 13:25 GMT
#198
I'm in Central PA. I feel like I dodged the worst of it. Power has been flickering, but nothing else major. Flooding is still a threat though. That, and Sandy helped me find a couple leaks in my house
"Right?"
nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
October 30 2012 13:39 GMT
#199
A women was struck and killed by a sign in Toronto last night.

http://www.thespec.com/news/ontario/article/827127--woman-killed-by-sign-in-toronto-as-sandy-approaches
+ Show Spoiler +
Woman killed by sign in Toronto as Sandy approaches

TORONTO Police in Toronto say gusting winds from superstorm Sandy were likely responsible for dislodging a sign that struck and killed a woman Monday night on a west-end street.

There were high winds in the area and the victim was found underneath the sign, so investigators are assuming that wind gusts caused the sign to fall, said Staff Sergeant Bruce Morrison.

“We received some initial calls from people who witnessed it, that the sign had come down and struck a female who was walking through the parking lot,” Morrison said.

The portion of the sign that fell was about 4.5 metres by 1.5 metres, Morrison said.

Power outages were also reported Monday night as Sandy began hitting southern Ontario, with hydro companies across the province reporting more than 15,000 customers were without power.

Ontario officials urged residents to prepare themselves for roaring winds and heavy rainfall expected from Sandy, saying it could result in flooding, road closures and power failures.

Energy Minister Chris Bentley said Ontario’s energy agencies are working to respond to power outages or infrastructure damage that are likely over the next few days.

Southern and eastern Ontario are bracing for potentially damaging winds of up to 100 kilometres per hour and between 30 to 50 millimetres of rain over the next 24 hours.

Some areas could see higher amounts as the super storm passes through, according to the Canadian Hurricane Centre.

The province’s Ornge air ambulance service grounded its helicopters and airplanes in southern Ontario as of 2 p.m. over concerns about high winds, said Community Safety Minister Madeleine Meilleur.

But land ambulances will be available to transport patients if needed, she added.

Emergency Management Ontario is monitoring the situation closely and will be able to jump in to help residents if necessary, she said.

“We’re ready for the red alert,” Meilleur said. “We’re not there, but we get ready for the worst.”

The agency said people should put away any objects that can be blown away by wind — such as garbage lids, furniture and Halloween decorations — to prevent damage or injury.

“The area of greatest concern is certainly around the impact of the winds, these significant winds, and the mischief that the winds can create in terms of downed trees, downed power lines and other kinds of damage,” said Allison Stuart, chief of Emergency Management Ontario.

“But an even more fundamental concern is that people will put themselves at increased risk by either wanting to go see what Lake Ontario looks like in a storm or checking out the river in the back 40 or whatever.”

People should try to “restrain themselves” and stay safe, Stuart said.

Toronto Mayor Rob Ford said it’s business as usual in Canada’s most populous city, but there will be extra staff brought in to handle calls from residents reporting fallen trees or branches or other city-related problems.

“Toronto is a great city and we are well prepared for hurricane Sandy,” Ford said.

One-quarter of all flights scheduled to depart from Toronto Pearson International Airport were cancelled. Porter Airlines also nixed all operations to and from its Billy Bishop Airport on the Toronto Islands until noon Tuesday.

Via Rail cancelled its trains on the Montreal to New York route and cut short its 8:20 a.m. train from Toronto to New York, which only went as far as Albany. It said it will operate as scheduled, but service may be disrupted by “unforeseen circumstances” caused by the hurricane.

Toronto Hydro said it’s preparing for the onslaught by having crews ready to respond to any calls about damage caused by the super storm.

If residents spot a downed power line or are stuck in a dangerous situation, they should call their local utility or 911, said spokeswoman Tanya Bruckmueller.

City residents should make sure they have water, any medication they need and money in case the power goes out, she added.

Emergency Management Ontario is encouraging people to put together a survival kit containing all the necessities they need for three days, including flashlights and extra batteries.

Horizon Utilities — which serves Hamilton and St. Catharines — said it’s adjusting work schedules to make sure there are enough workers to take calls and restore power.

There are worries about flooding in that city, which received about 20 millimetres of rain over the weekend.

Toronto officials said they expect storm sewers to be able to handle the rainfall, but are urging residents to keep catchbasins clear from leaves and other debris to avoid flooding.

Northern Ontario was hit by heavy rains last week, causing creeks and rivers to overflow, washing out roads around Wawa, including a section of the Trans-Canada Highway.

The town declared a state of emergency last Thursday, after damaged roads left surrounding communities completely cut off.

The flooding forced the evacuation of the Michipicoten First Nation when the only road into the community was destroyed by the storm. It is now under repair, police said.


Stay safe everyone!
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
October 30 2012 13:41 GMT
#200
On October 30 2012 22:16 Fruscainte wrote:
Stuff


This isn't like a typical hurricane in Florida. It merged with a Nor'easter and created exceptionally low barometric pressure (945 mbar, which is right on the borderline between Category 3 and 4). That mbar number created the exceptionally high winds and flooding that did most of the damage.

So, a lot of your arguments are invalid.

An electrical subway system underground is going to be vulnerable to flooding, something to consider, but it's not like the MTA was going to invest millions (they're already in financial trouble) in preventing this kind of disaster that mayor Bloomberg described as a "once-in-a-long-time" storm. He probably should have said "once in a lifetime" for effect but I guess he's very exact with his words.

A lot of the other effects, such as trees falling and killing people, electrocution are just unavoidable. One thing that can be corrected right away is backup generator placement, as flooding caused NYU hospital to lose power and backup power, forcing evacuation.

I would say that there is an increasing trend of extreme weather reaching NYC and something needs to be done for the long term.
Pulp can move, baby!
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 13:59:43
October 30 2012 13:56 GMT
#201
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rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
October 30 2012 13:58 GMT
#202
On October 30 2012 22:56 Barrin wrote:
I been in the eye/eywall of multiple cat 2's 3's and even a 4... (east coast florida)

A cat 1 did this to you guys up there? Better get your shit together...


You wanna fight about it?
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
October 30 2012 13:59 GMT
#203

[image loading]



HELLO JP MCDANIELS!
Mastermyth
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands207 Posts
October 30 2012 14:00 GMT
#204
On October 30 2012 22:41 ahole-surprise wrote:
A lot of the other effects, such as trees falling and killing people, electrocution are just unavoidable. One thing that can be corrected right away is backup generator placement, as flooding caused NYU hospital to lose power and backup power, forcing evacuation.


Out of curiosity, why do certain areas of the US still use above-ground power cables in residential areas?
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
October 30 2012 14:00 GMT
#205
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
October 30 2012 14:03 GMT
#206
That yellow traffic sign looks like an alien head. So what, sharks and aliens?! Time to call it a day.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
October 30 2012 14:06 GMT
#207
On October 30 2012 22:59 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +

[image loading]



HELLO JP MCDANIELS!


Where da fuk is a shark like that coming from ?
viasacra89
Profile Joined January 2012
United States134 Posts
October 30 2012 14:06 GMT
#208
Nassau county, NY here. Power's been out since yesterday. Using an inverter/battery and 4g hotspot. Power's gonna be out for about a week because all of our power is above ground...
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
October 30 2012 14:09 GMT
#209
On October 30 2012 23:06 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 22:59 Nyxisto wrote:

[image loading]



HELLO JP MCDANIELS!


Where da fuk is a shark like that coming from ?


Photoshop?
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
October 30 2012 14:10 GMT
#210
On October 30 2012 23:00 Mastermyth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 22:41 ahole-surprise wrote:
A lot of the other effects, such as trees falling and killing people, electrocution are just unavoidable. One thing that can be corrected right away is backup generator placement, as flooding caused NYU hospital to lose power and backup power, forcing evacuation.


Out of curiosity, why do certain areas of the US still use above-ground power cables in residential areas?


Probably because it is too expensive but also because in busy cities, it is too disruptive to install and then repair any problems associated with underground power lines, even in residential areas. Not defending this analysis, but that's probably the justification given that something like Sandy rarely ever happens.
Pulp can move, baby!
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
October 30 2012 14:15 GMT
#211
On October 30 2012 22:56 Barrin wrote:
I been in the eye/eywall of multiple cat 2's 3's, and I was even a 4... (east coast florida)

A cat 1 did this to you guys up there? Better get your shit together...

Imagine it hitting zero degrees in Florida.

It's just hard to even imagine, right? Much harder too is to imagine the consequences.
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
October 30 2012 14:18 GMT
#212
If a few inches of snow fell on Florida, I would sit down with popcorn and laugh at cars and alligators slip sliding around on the road with Yakety Sax playing in the background.
Pulp can move, baby!
capu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Finland224 Posts
October 30 2012 14:19 GMT
#213
is youtube down because of this?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 14:22:54
October 30 2012 14:19 GMT
#214
Above ground cables are super duper cheap to repair and install.

Not even this amount of damage in repair costs offsets it.

On October 30 2012 22:56 Barrin wrote:
I been in the eye/eywall of multiple cat 2's 3's, and I was even a 4... (east coast florida)

A cat 1 did this to you guys up there? Better get your shit together...


Also Barrin the hurricane hit during high tide. And it merged with a Noreaster. So the pressure dropped immensely.

As a result, the damage you are looking at is pretty good considering this hurricane is ACTUALLY a category 3 or 4 when you look at its density. Of course the winds are lower, you have any idea how much water this storm has been gathering and holding?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffir–Simpson_Hurricane_Scale

But they seem to classify by wind speed exclusively now. So Cat 1. But if you look at the level of flooding. Its obvious the scale doesnt really quantify everything correctly.
twitch.tv/medrea
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
October 30 2012 14:21 GMT
#215
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.


Florida doesn't have blizzards that combine with hurricanes.

The damage looks like Andrew in '92. Dojn't be so insensitive.
CLG/Liquid ~~ youtube.com/reddedgaming
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 30 2012 14:22 GMT
#216
On October 30 2012 23:00 Mastermyth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 22:41 ahole-surprise wrote:
A lot of the other effects, such as trees falling and killing people, electrocution are just unavoidable. One thing that can be corrected right away is backup generator placement, as flooding caused NYU hospital to lose power and backup power, forcing evacuation.


Out of curiosity, why do certain areas of the US still use above-ground power cables in residential areas?



Because there is too much stuff underground and under those tunnels is usually bedrock.

Most of the above ground wires have high tension wires to keep the poles in place

source: outside of my house in NYC suburbs

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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 30 2012 14:24 GMT
#217
Some neighborhoods up here use underground wiring actually. Those are usually the new neighborhoods when they build entire streets of houses, often for rich people.
twitch.tv/medrea
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 14:25:08
October 30 2012 14:24 GMT
#218
On October 30 2012 23:21 Holytornados wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.


Florida doesn't have blizzards that combine with hurricanes.

The damage looks like Andrew in '92. Dojn't be so insensitive.


I wouldn't say this is insensitivity more than gut reaction beyond reading CAT 1 and not reading the rest that says "combined with Nor'easter that brings it to Cat 3" and combining this with "Hell yea I'm a tough guy for living in a state prepared for hurricanes, lol at these pussies not prepared for events that happen once in a hundred years"
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 14:26:47
October 30 2012 14:26 GMT
#219
On October 30 2012 22:56 Barrin wrote:
I been in the eye/eywall of multiple cat 2's 3's, and I was even a 4... (east coast florida)

A cat 1 did this to you guys up there? Better get your shit together...


I live on east coast florida too and that's a pretty fucked up thing to say. Also, as others have noted, the class doesn't portray how large this hurricane is.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 14:26:56
October 30 2012 14:26 GMT
#220
People down south really shouldn't be making fun of people up north over this.
I know some schools closed in the south (couple years ago?) over what, 2 inch of snow?
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 14:28:01
October 30 2012 14:26 GMT
#221
On October 30 2012 22:56 Barrin wrote:
I been in the eye/eywall of multiple cat 2's 3's, and I was even a 4... (east coast florida)

A cat 1 did this to you guys up there? Better get your shit together...



How much of your infrastructure is underground? None? Oh then it seems like you have a lot less to worry about all that water fucking your shit up. The wind/intensity wasnt the problem with the storm, it was the rain.


Also I'm sure you're probably wearing a winter coat today because it's 50 degrees in Florida. And don't tell me you aren't because I live in Orlando and I am amazed how many people are wearing jackets today.
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 14:29:44
October 30 2012 14:27 GMT
#222
From the wiki.
There is some criticism of the SSHS for not taking rain, storm speed, and other important factors into consideration, but SSHS defenders say that part of the goal of SSHS is to be straightforward and simple to understand.


The category scale is fucking useless. Its only use is for people who leave near the origin. Your basically looking at the impact a wrecking ball is going to do by measuring ONLY the velocity of the ball and not the mass.

And we get storms like this one about once every 20 years. Its ridiculous how lucky ive been (I live in Ct, storm is literally going right around us). But everyone in its path is getting devastated by the water.
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9022 Posts
October 30 2012 14:29 GMT
#223
On October 30 2012 22:56 Barrin wrote:
I been in the eye/eywall of multiple cat 2's 3's, and I was even a 4... (east coast florida)

A cat 1 did this to you guys up there? Better get your shit together...

well about 70 people were killed and millions affected. I doubt this is a "cat 1" anymore.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 30 2012 14:31 GMT
#224
A 4 year old child and a fat 300lb man run into a woman.

They both run at the same speed.

Under the hurricane scale. They are both category one.
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ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
October 30 2012 14:31 GMT
#225
On October 30 2012 10:29 ranshaked wrote:
Debris falling from a skyscraper on 6th.
Many fires going on, but emergency services cannot reach due to 6 feet of water in the road ways

I'm receiving these updates from never forget 9/11 page. He is getting them from scanners.


Perhaps this is a dense question, but if there is intense flooding and tons of rain going on, wouldn't fires not be a problem?

Just open the door and let the hurricane douse the fire?
happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
October 30 2012 14:31 GMT
#226
85%+ of Long Island lost power, could take up to 7-10 days to restore
In Manhattan, everything 39th street to the southern tip lost power due to a transformer exploding (i.e. about half of Manhattan, including Wall Street)

+ Show Spoiler +


Most roads and bridges closed except for two major highways
From what I hear on the radio, high tide flooding has inundated southern Long Island. Also flooding east of 2nd avenue Manahttan, and western part of Queens/Brooklyn (basically anything a mile of East River).
And I've heard NJ shore has gotten hit the worst

It's kind of bizarre how much damage this storm has caused, because the wind was like sustained 35-40mph (50-60mph gusts), barely any rain. But a lot of damage was from flooding from high tides and trees destroying power lines.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 30 2012 14:32 GMT
#227
On October 30 2012 23:26 don_kyuhote wrote:
People down south really shouldn't be making fun of people up north over this.
I know some schools closed in the south (couple years ago?) over what, 2 inch of snow?

Yea I live in atlanta and we had like 3 or 4 inches of snow and people were calling it snowpocalypse
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 14:34:17
October 30 2012 14:33 GMT
#228
In case anyone else is trying to fly in to Boston/some of the more peripherally affected cities, it looks like United and most airlines have started putting up flights again after canceling them Sunday. I was on hold for 40 minutes or so but managed to rebook from a Thursday flight to one tonight.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 30 2012 14:34 GMT
#229
On October 30 2012 23:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 23:26 don_kyuhote wrote:
People down south really shouldn't be making fun of people up north over this.
I know some schools closed in the south (couple years ago?) over what, 2 inch of snow?

Yea I live in atlanta and we had like 3 or 4 inches of snow and people were calling it snowpocalypse


I suppose if your trees all have leaves on them still 4 inches could do a lot of damage.

We constantly trim trees next to power lines and houses. Or we are supposed to anyway.
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lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
October 30 2012 14:36 GMT
#230
I just saw this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2225108/Hurricane-Sandy-2012-Superstorm-batters-US-coast-Manhattan-goes-dark-7-5m-power-17-dead.html

And wow... I'm from north Jersey originally and seeing these pictures is just unbelievable. Stay safe, east coasters!
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 30 2012 14:39 GMT
#231
I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from.
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Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
October 30 2012 14:40 GMT
#232
Beautiful,, nature i such a wonderful beast..
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lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
October 30 2012 14:43 GMT
#233
On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote:
I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from.


Most people in other states always associate themselves with a particular city that they are most near to. We're such a tiny state that its just easier for us to say north/central/south/shore/etc. It's the same thing really.
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don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
October 30 2012 14:43 GMT
#234
On October 30 2012 23:31 ensign_lee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 10:29 ranshaked wrote:
Debris falling from a skyscraper on 6th.
Many fires going on, but emergency services cannot reach due to 6 feet of water in the road ways

I'm receiving these updates from never forget 9/11 page. He is getting them from scanners.


Perhaps this is a dense question, but if there is intense flooding and tons of rain going on, wouldn't fires not be a problem?

Just open the door and let the hurricane douse the fire?

I've witnessed burning houses on a rainy day before, and what I learned was rain really doesn't do shit once fire reaches a certain size. Wet or dry, it just burns everything in its path. Besides, most of the stuff inside the buildings are dry anyway plus the wind actually helps the fire get bigger. You need to use CO2 or some other chemical because water is not going to be very effective unless your talking like submerging the entire building under water at which point everything is destroyed anyway.
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happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
October 30 2012 14:47 GMT
#235
On October 30 2012 23:43 lilsusie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote:
I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from.


Most people in other states always associate themselves with a particular city that they are most near to. We're such a tiny state that its just easier for us to say north/central/south/shore/etc. It's the same thing really.


Also cuz the northern, central and southern parts of NJ are quite different from each other in demographic and urban density. It's the same for New York ... are you from upstate, NYC or long island? They're all quite different from each other.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 30 2012 14:48 GMT
#236
[image loading] Whitehall station as it currently stands in New York, just above Battery Park.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 14:51:25
October 30 2012 14:48 GMT
#237
On October 30 2012 23:43 lilsusie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote:
I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from.


Most people in other states always associate themselves with a particular city that they are most near to. We're such a tiny state that its just easier for us to say north/central/south/shore/etc. It's the same thing really.


No its because of the enormous cultural and political differences between the Northern and Southern part of New Jersey and you know that too. Its not really exemplified anywhere else in the country. I dont really see other people even removing a word from the states name either

Im from Connecticut. Just Connecticut. I would only specify that Im not from Greenwhich which is where all the filthy rich are.

On October 30 2012 23:47 happyft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 23:43 lilsusie wrote:
On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote:
I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from.


Most people in other states always associate themselves with a particular city that they are most near to. We're such a tiny state that its just easier for us to say north/central/south/shore/etc. It's the same thing really.


Also cuz the northern, central and southern parts of NJ are quite different from each other in demographic and urban density. It's the same for New York ... are you from upstate, NYC or long island? They're all quite different from each other.


I was gonna mention New York too since its 90 percent nothing but hills and green. And there is the cities.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44390 Posts
October 30 2012 14:50 GMT
#238
On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote:
I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from.


Those of us from north jersey want to make it quite clear that we're not related to those who are from south jersey ::shudders::
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 14:52:33
October 30 2012 14:51 GMT
#239
On October 30 2012 23:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote:
I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from.


Those of us from north jersey want to make it quite clear that we're not related to those who are from south jersey ::shudders::


Exactly.

See, we just make fun of all of you because your drivers are awful. The land is polluted. And everyone is a convict.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44390 Posts
October 30 2012 14:55 GMT
#240
On October 30 2012 23:51 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 23:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote:
I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from.


Those of us from north jersey want to make it quite clear that we're not related to those who are from south jersey ::shudders::


Exactly.

See, we just make fun of all of you because your drivers are awful. The land is polluted. And everyone is a convict.


Ah, those are the Jersey stereotypes? I thought it was just the way we say coffee and water.
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MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
October 30 2012 14:56 GMT
#241
It sucks especially that no one in those states probably have hurricane plans. Down south we have all kinds of policies and precautions that help prevent the disasters from getting too bad and assist with evacuations.
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LiamTheZerg
Profile Joined March 2011
United States523 Posts
October 30 2012 14:57 GMT
#242
On October 30 2012 23:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote:
I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from.


Those of us from north jersey want to make it quite clear that we're not related to those who are from south jersey ::shudders::


You kidding? We thank god we're not from North Jersey, which it's shitty ski slopes and meh beaches. And god help anyone in Jersey city.

Though we have Camden too, even though it barely counts.
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Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
October 30 2012 14:57 GMT
#243
oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 30 2012 14:58 GMT
#244
On October 30 2012 23:57 Mondieu wrote:
oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^


Don't tell that to the rest of the world that thinks we are all zealots.
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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
October 30 2012 14:58 GMT
#245
Best of luck guys, be safe.
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MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
October 30 2012 15:01 GMT
#246
On October 30 2012 23:57 Mondieu wrote:
oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^

Americans only unite when we're at war basically. Like, people the north shore hate the people from the south shore in southeastern louisiana, but we're one in the same when we hate the north Louisiana people together, and then we hate Mississippi together as a state, but the south hates the north together which unites the south, and the country hates the middle east together. Unity through hatred.
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happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
October 30 2012 15:31 GMT
#247
On October 31 2012 00:01 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 23:57 Mondieu wrote:
oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^

Americans only unite when we're at war basically. Like, people the north shore hate the people from the south shore in southeastern louisiana, but we're one in the same when we hate the north Louisiana people together, and then we hate Mississippi together as a state, but the south hates the north together which unites the south, and the country hates the middle east together. Unity through hatred.


"War is Peace" -- brought to you by the Ministry of "Peace"

Btw apparently this storm brought an unprecedented 13ft surge of seawater, 3ft above the previous record. So even though this was a Cat 1 cane, the barometric pressure was extremely low, indicating the massive amount of energy it would bring
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
October 30 2012 15:49 GMT
#248
On October 30 2012 23:57 LiamTheZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 23:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote:
I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from.


Those of us from north jersey want to make it quite clear that we're not related to those who are from south jersey ::shudders::


You kidding? We thank god we're not from North Jersey, which it's shitty ski slopes and meh beaches. And god help anyone in Jersey city.

Though we have Camden too, even though it barely counts.


The lesson here being that all of New Jersey sucks guys
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xHQx
Profile Joined August 2012
Russian Federation601 Posts
October 30 2012 15:57 GMT
#249
lol
[image loading]
are you evolving?
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 16:14:26
October 30 2012 16:06 GMT
#250
A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day.

Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused.
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Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
October 30 2012 16:09 GMT
#251
On October 31 2012 00:57 xHQx wrote:
lol
[image loading]


lmao gangnam style cant be stopped
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
October 30 2012 16:15 GMT
#252
I lost a piece of siding and a piece of rain gutter. Not too bad, but hopefully the li power authority will put together a power restoration schedule soon.
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Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
October 30 2012 16:15 GMT
#253
On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote:
A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day.

Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused.


Congratulations on pointing out what everyone else has already mentioned
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 16:30:44
October 30 2012 16:21 GMT
#254
Windspeed (and thus the scale) doesnt take into account water (but pressure does) so we are missing a whole number in the momentum = Mass*velocity equation.

Which is probably what we should be doing.

So this hurricane was basically Cat 3 almost Cat 4 in terms of momentum.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19063 Posts
October 30 2012 16:22 GMT
#255
On October 30 2012 23:31 happyft wrote:
85%+ of Long Island lost power, could take up to 7-10 days to restore
In Manhattan, everything 39th street to the southern tip lost power due to a transformer exploding (i.e. about half of Manhattan, including Wall Street)

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seMaLEqotUw&noredirect=1


Most roads and bridges closed except for two major highways
From what I hear on the radio, high tide flooding has inundated southern Long Island. Also flooding east of 2nd avenue Manahttan, and western part of Queens/Brooklyn (basically anything a mile of East River).
And I've heard NJ shore has gotten hit the worst

It's kind of bizarre how much damage this storm has caused, because the wind was like sustained 35-40mph (50-60mph gusts), barely any rain. But a lot of damage was from flooding from high tides and trees destroying power lines.

The shore isn't really there anymore...

All of the dunes got washed away.

On October 30 2012 23:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 23:39 Medrea wrote:
I like how New Jersey residents always qualify which part of the state they are from.


Those of us from north jersey want to make it quite clear that we're not related to those who are from south jersey ::shudders::

I have relatives in North Jersey...
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whatevername
Profile Joined June 2012
471 Posts
October 30 2012 16:24 GMT
#256
Sure did lag my internet all night, ruined a starcraft game when my power flickered, and my table out back flipped over. Otherwise...meh.
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
October 30 2012 16:25 GMT
#257
where I lived a tree branch fell down. However everywhere else around me (AC, Wildwood,seaside, My home home) all got messed up pretty bad. they say power might b out till next monday
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archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
October 30 2012 16:30 GMT
#258
Maybe Sandy was a statement by mother nature in the presidential debate to highlight the problems with global warming and crumbling infrastructure. It looks to me like that Obama should be able to pick more votes because of the receding hurricane.
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trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
October 30 2012 16:32 GMT
#259
On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote:
A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day.

Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused.


Fortunately, only certain parts of NYC are low lying, and storms like these hit us 1-2 times a century, thus not too many pumps installed.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 30 2012 16:46 GMT
#260
On October 31 2012 01:32 trifecta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote:
A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day.

Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused.


Fortunately, only certain parts of NYC are low lying, and storms like these hit us 1-2 times a century, thus not too many pumps installed.


I see, I was under the impression that the flooding last year was pretty bad also.

On October 31 2012 01:15 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote:
A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day.

Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused.


Congratulations on pointing out what everyone else has already mentioned


On the other hand your post was very good. 5/5
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ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
October 30 2012 16:53 GMT
#261
On October 31 2012 01:46 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 01:32 trifecta wrote:
On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote:
A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day.

Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused.


Fortunately, only certain parts of NYC are low lying, and storms like these hit us 1-2 times a century, thus not too many pumps installed.


I see, I was under the impression that the flooding last year was pretty bad also.


Nah last year was really nothing, this one was magnitudes worse. But with climate change it's probable the frequency of storms like this will increase a bit.
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AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
October 30 2012 17:04 GMT
#262
In Central New York everyone bought generators and emergency supplies but all that happened was the power went out for some for a couple of hours. Not even any wind damage. We got lucky up here.
czylu
Profile Joined June 2012
477 Posts
October 30 2012 17:27 GMT
#263
On October 31 2012 01:53 ZapRoffo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 01:46 heliusx wrote:
On October 31 2012 01:32 trifecta wrote:
On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote:
A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day.

Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused.


Fortunately, only certain parts of NYC are low lying, and storms like these hit us 1-2 times a century, thus not too many pumps installed.


I see, I was under the impression that the flooding last year was pretty bad also.


Nah last year was really nothing, this one was magnitudes worse. But with climate change it's probable the frequency of storms like this will increase a bit.


The one last year didn't have flooding. It was actually quite a harmless snow storm if it weren't for the fact the trees still had leaves and collapsed based on the weight of the snow. Sandy had winds that knocked out the trees and drove water into the streets.
Sparkman
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60 Posts
October 30 2012 17:31 GMT
#264
This storm is killing me I want to go outside and exercise!!!!
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 30 2012 17:36 GMT
#265
On October 31 2012 00:01 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 23:57 Mondieu wrote:
oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^

Americans only unite when we're at war basically. Like, people the north shore hate the people from the south shore in southeastern louisiana, but we're one in the same when we hate the north Louisiana people together, and then we hate Mississippi together as a state, but the south hates the north together which unites the south, and the country hates the middle east together. Unity through hatred.

lol what was all this crap?

It's not "Americans" that hate each other. It's teenagers on the internet being 2deep2edgy.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18829 Posts
October 30 2012 17:38 GMT
#266
On October 31 2012 02:36 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 00:01 MattBarry wrote:
On October 30 2012 23:57 Mondieu wrote:
oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^

Americans only unite when we're at war basically. Like, people the north shore hate the people from the south shore in southeastern louisiana, but we're one in the same when we hate the north Louisiana people together, and then we hate Mississippi together as a state, but the south hates the north together which unites the south, and the country hates the middle east together. Unity through hatred.

lol what was all this crap?

It's not "Americans" that hate each other. It's teenagers on the internet being 2deep2edgy.

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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 30 2012 17:38 GMT
#267
On October 31 2012 02:27 czylu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 01:53 ZapRoffo wrote:
On October 31 2012 01:46 heliusx wrote:
On October 31 2012 01:32 trifecta wrote:
On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote:
A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day.

Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused.


Fortunately, only certain parts of NYC are low lying, and storms like these hit us 1-2 times a century, thus not too many pumps installed.


I see, I was under the impression that the flooding last year was pretty bad also.


Nah last year was really nothing, this one was magnitudes worse. But with climate change it's probable the frequency of storms like this will increase a bit.


The one last year didn't have flooding. It was actually quite a harmless snow storm if it weren't for the fact the trees still had leaves and collapsed based on the weight of the snow. Sandy had winds that knocked out the trees and drove water into the streets.


The major flooding from Irene was further north and east, in Mass, NH, Vermont, and Maine iirc. It was bad, it just wasn't in NYC. The ground up there doesn't soak up water quite the same way it does elsewhere. Then again, with the amount of paving, underground building, and extensive underground systems, I don't know that the ground in NYC soaks up water at all - most of the skyscrapers are anchored into bedrock.

Oh, someone said something about "having infrastructure below ground" and being hurricane proof - I live in Florida. A lot of the new power lines are going in underground, because it means fewer power outages due to downed trees. There is actually a fair amount of infrastructure here underground - it's just that the vast majority of it is storm drains that were designed to handle large amounts of rain that can occur in a very short period. Categories are scientific ways of defining a storm - just because a Cat 1 would have minimal impact in much of Florida doesn't mean that a Tropical Storm hitting a far more populous location that is historically unprepared for the event wouldn't cause more significant damage. (Kind of like, which does more damage - an F5 tornado in a Kansas corn field or an F1 tornado in Times Square?)
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Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
October 30 2012 17:52 GMT
#268
The devastation is really sad to see, hang in there guys
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19063 Posts
October 30 2012 18:30 GMT
#269
On October 31 2012 02:38 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 02:36 Probe1 wrote:
On October 31 2012 00:01 MattBarry wrote:
On October 30 2012 23:57 Mondieu wrote:
oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^

Americans only unite when we're at war basically. Like, people the north shore hate the people from the south shore in southeastern louisiana, but we're one in the same when we hate the north Louisiana people together, and then we hate Mississippi together as a state, but the south hates the north together which unites the south, and the country hates the middle east together. Unity through hatred.

lol what was all this crap?

It's not "Americans" that hate each other. It's teenagers on the internet being 2deep2edgy.

Who knew Ludacris could act?

both of you relax and stay on topic please
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Profile Joined June 2012
United States326 Posts
October 30 2012 18:39 GMT
#270
I live in Florida myself and these storms are usually played up. The main concern is the flooding which comes with excessive rains in flood zones. The winds/storm surge etc.. etc.. is minor when compared to the amount of rain. The only time when the winds/storm surges are a huge concern is when you have a category 3 storm or greater.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32066 Posts
October 30 2012 18:46 GMT
#271
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Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
October 30 2012 18:49 GMT
#272
I bet if Obama handles this well he will win the election big, if he handles it poorly he will lose surprisingly big.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 30 2012 18:49 GMT
#273
Damn that's fucked up :S
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
October 30 2012 18:51 GMT
#274
Was playing LoL with a friend when it hit, a tree fell on the front of his house so he had to leave mid game. We still won 4v5 so all good.
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
October 30 2012 18:53 GMT
#275
On October 31 2012 03:49 Nausea wrote:
I bet if Obama handles this well he will win the election big, if he handles it poorly he will lose surprisingly big.

Yea how this gets handled could have a massive effect on how the election swings, if I was Obama I would ride in there personally on the roof of a tank followed by a caravan of military trucks full of food and medical supplies.
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Zoltan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States656 Posts
October 30 2012 19:06 GMT
#276
I live right outside Atlantic City, looks like im going to have to rebuild my business from the ground up because of this storm, as 80% of my business happens on NJ's southern barrier islands (I do termite work for real estate agents). Serious problems for me . I rode the storm out at a friends in Jackson, and it looks like some of my friends lost their houses. I'm just happy everyone is alive.
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Zoltan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States656 Posts
October 30 2012 19:07 GMT
#277
On October 31 2012 03:49 Nausea wrote:
I bet if Obama handles this well he will win the election big, if he handles it poorly he will lose surprisingly big.


I read that the dude that bush had handling FEMA said that obama "responded too quickly"

He forgot to finish that sentence ..."'cause you are making me look like shit"
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 30 2012 19:11 GMT
#278
So how bad are damages? (i'm at West Coast so I have no idea how bad it is)
looks like a lot of flooding from the images. Any estimates for damages yet?
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 19:12:06
October 30 2012 19:11 GMT
#279
On October 31 2012 03:49 Nausea wrote:
I bet if Obama handles this well he will win the election big, if he handles it poorly he will lose surprisingly big.



I think he wins

MA has downed power lines, nothing major.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18829 Posts
October 30 2012 19:12 GMT
#280
On October 31 2012 04:06 Zoltan wrote:
I live right outside Atlantic City, looks like im going to have to rebuild my business from the ground up because of this storm, as 80% of my business happens on NJ's southern barrier islands (I do termite work for real estate agents). Serious problems for me . I rode the storm out at a friends in Jackson, and it looks like some of my friends lost their houses. I'm just happy everyone is alive.

I'm sorry to hear about your plight; luckily, reconstruction projects are likely going to need termite work!
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Zoltan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States656 Posts
October 30 2012 19:17 GMT
#281
On October 31 2012 04:12 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 04:06 Zoltan wrote:
I live right outside Atlantic City, looks like im going to have to rebuild my business from the ground up because of this storm, as 80% of my business happens on NJ's southern barrier islands (I do termite work for real estate agents). Serious problems for me . I rode the storm out at a friends in Jackson, and it looks like some of my friends lost their houses. I'm just happy everyone is alive.

I'm sorry to hear about your plight; luckily, reconstruction projects are likely going to need termite work!


I can only hope! I'm trying to talk my friend who is an (voluntarily) unemployed carpenter to help me to get into some re-construction projects lol. Thanks for the well wishes
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Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
October 30 2012 19:45 GMT
#282
Comparing NJ to Florida is...stupid, point blank. There are less trees, less people, less everything overall. The storm surge broke the previous record by ~50%. Read lucky fool's blog if you insist on saying 'it's just category 1.'

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=378741
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Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
October 30 2012 21:05 GMT
#283
Don't even get me started. Two days without power this is terrible. I'm having to ride my bike to my local library to do my TL'ing for the day.

I'm glad though the damage in my area, Boston, was minimal I have no heard yet what the status of NYC has been as I have not been able to turn on the news. I hope everyone is save.
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happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
October 30 2012 21:08 GMT
#284
Coned said power will be back in 3-4 days

LIPA on the other hand has said 7-10 days, maybe longer. Cuomo has said that he's keeping an eye on LIPA especially given its terrible track record of taking weeks to restore power in the past, and has authorized PSC to watch over LIPA's efforts.

The notion of 90% of Long Island without power for over a week and a half is frankly ridiculous. I guess I'll be commuting to queens every day just to get my work done.
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
October 30 2012 22:58 GMT
#285
On October 31 2012 06:08 happyft wrote:
Coned said power will be back in 3-4 days

LIPA on the other hand has said 7-10 days, maybe longer. Cuomo has said that he's keeping an eye on LIPA especially given its terrible track record of taking weeks to restore power in the past, and has authorized PSC to watch over LIPA's efforts.

The notion of 90% of Long Island without power for over a week and a half is frankly ridiculous. I guess I'll be commuting to queens every day just to get my work done.

Jesus fuck, man. Hopefully the watchdogs keep them in line, because that's just insane.
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
October 31 2012 00:18 GMT
#286
On October 31 2012 07:58 Kibibit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 06:08 happyft wrote:
Coned said power will be back in 3-4 days

LIPA on the other hand has said 7-10 days, maybe longer. Cuomo has said that he's keeping an eye on LIPA especially given its terrible track record of taking weeks to restore power in the past, and has authorized PSC to watch over LIPA's efforts.

The notion of 90% of Long Island without power for over a week and a half is frankly ridiculous. I guess I'll be commuting to queens every day just to get my work done.

Jesus fuck, man. Hopefully the watchdogs keep them in line, because that's just insane.

vouch. 10 days without power, are you kidding me? whenever i hear about electricity companies in the US, its horrible.

this reminds me of a colleague from pakistan who told me of power outages happening every 2 or so days, but usually only lasting for some few hours. basically, LIPA says they need longer to restore power than some obscure third world country electricity provider.
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czylu
Profile Joined June 2012
477 Posts
October 31 2012 00:35 GMT
#287
On October 31 2012 09:18 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 07:58 Kibibit wrote:
On October 31 2012 06:08 happyft wrote:
Coned said power will be back in 3-4 days

LIPA on the other hand has said 7-10 days, maybe longer. Cuomo has said that he's keeping an eye on LIPA especially given its terrible track record of taking weeks to restore power in the past, and has authorized PSC to watch over LIPA's efforts.

The notion of 90% of Long Island without power for over a week and a half is frankly ridiculous. I guess I'll be commuting to queens every day just to get my work done.

Jesus fuck, man. Hopefully the watchdogs keep them in line, because that's just insane.

vouch. 10 days without power, are you kidding me? whenever i hear about electricity companies in the US, its horrible.

this reminds me of a colleague from pakistan who told me of power outages happening every 2 or so days, but usually only lasting for some few hours. basically, LIPA says they need longer to restore power than some obscure third world country electricity provider.


Did you see that transformer explosion in nyc? This isn't some shoddy electric system in Pakistan that you can fix with some gum and rubberbands, they need to go out and reconstruct every downed pole and energy line. Last year Irene destroyed my town and it took 11 days to finally restore power because there were just so many trees down.
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
October 31 2012 01:13 GMT
#288
Nice. A swath of blocks in my neighborhood just went out completely. This after we managed to get some stuff going after the first loss of power.
Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
October 31 2012 01:32 GMT
#289
Well, so far so good here. Power flickered a few times but never went out. The usual tree branches all over the place, no serious damage to anything. Only real event I had was pulling a few people out of ditches. Of course they were driving cars that shouldn't of been on the road in the first damn place much less in weather like this. Newsflash people, driving on bald tires is stupid. At this point though the worst is over for us, just cleanup and such.

As for the Coasts, pretty much expected what happened there. I am a bit surprised at how badly prepared NY and NJ actually were. It isn't like hurricanes never hit, just that they are rare. A Cat 1 should never have done anywhere near that damage.
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
October 31 2012 01:36 GMT
#290
On October 31 2012 10:32 Dekoth wrote:
Well, so far so good here. Power flickered a few times but never went out. The usual tree branches all over the place, no serious damage to anything. Only real event I had was pulling a few people out of ditches. Of course they were driving cars that shouldn't of been on the road in the first damn place much less in weather like this. Newsflash people, driving on bald tires is stupid. At this point though the worst is over for us, just cleanup and such.

As for the Coasts, pretty much expected what happened there. I am a bit surprised at how badly prepared NY and NJ actually were. It isn't like hurricanes never hit, just that they are rare. A Cat 1 should never have done anywhere near that damage.


Tell me how you prepare for record storm surge that hits at the highest point of high tide?
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Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
October 31 2012 01:49 GMT
#291
On October 31 2012 10:32 Dekoth wrote:
Well, so far so good here. Power flickered a few times but never went out. The usual tree branches all over the place, no serious damage to anything. Only real event I had was pulling a few people out of ditches. Of course they were driving cars that shouldn't of been on the road in the first damn place much less in weather like this. Newsflash people, driving on bald tires is stupid. At this point though the worst is over for us, just cleanup and such.

As for the Coasts, pretty much expected what happened there. I am a bit surprised at how badly prepared NY and NJ actually were. It isn't like hurricanes never hit, just that they are rare. A Cat 1 should never have done anywhere near that damage.

I wish people would stop saying this. This was a Cat 1 in only wind gusts. Many aspects of the storm were more characteristic of a Category 3 or 4. On top of that, anyone who is surprised at how unprepared NY is fails to understand what would need to be done to be "prepared" for what happened. We'd have had to build strong levees, waterproof a Subway system that is 2 to 3 times larger than what passengers actually ride through. Buildings that would be nigh-impossible to board off would need to be boarded off. Tunnels that were never constructed with the possibility of flooding of that magnitude needed to be floodproofed. The list goes on and on. The damage that happened wasn't of the sort that could be put up even if we were clairvoyant and knew exactly how bad the storm would be from its first reports. New York is not built for hurricanes, and cities that are have been built from the ground up with them in mind.
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Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
October 31 2012 01:52 GMT
#292
On October 31 2012 09:35 czylu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 09:18 Black Gun wrote:
On October 31 2012 07:58 Kibibit wrote:
On October 31 2012 06:08 happyft wrote:
Coned said power will be back in 3-4 days

LIPA on the other hand has said 7-10 days, maybe longer. Cuomo has said that he's keeping an eye on LIPA especially given its terrible track record of taking weeks to restore power in the past, and has authorized PSC to watch over LIPA's efforts.

The notion of 90% of Long Island without power for over a week and a half is frankly ridiculous. I guess I'll be commuting to queens every day just to get my work done.

Jesus fuck, man. Hopefully the watchdogs keep them in line, because that's just insane.

vouch. 10 days without power, are you kidding me? whenever i hear about electricity companies in the US, its horrible.

this reminds me of a colleague from pakistan who told me of power outages happening every 2 or so days, but usually only lasting for some few hours. basically, LIPA says they need longer to restore power than some obscure third world country electricity provider.


Did you see that transformer explosion in nyc? This isn't some shoddy electric system in Pakistan that you can fix with some gum and rubberbands, they need to go out and reconstruct every downed pole and energy line. Last year Irene destroyed my town and it took 11 days to finally restore power because there were just so many trees down.

It's worse than that. There aren't poles to speak of in manhattan. After a massive Blizzard, Manhattan its power lines underground. If you've ever walked around midtown, you'll notice a complete lack of power lines and the like.
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Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
October 31 2012 01:54 GMT
#293
Be safe out there everyone who's in the NE. Don't go outside unless you absolutely know it's safe enough to. Some stupid lady went out into the water and got shocked due to the down lines.
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Yenticha
Profile Joined July 2010
257 Posts
October 31 2012 05:49 GMT
#294
I (obviously) haven't read every single post in this thread but... how is Haiti doing?
Even searching "haiti sandy" gives me 95% of hits about US, NYC,...
Only got this:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012103075846181519.html

Sounds pretty bad. Yet all I can read about on news websites/facebook/teamliquid is "no electricity for 24 hours, my laptop is dying!" or "no subway for days!". Am I the only one being disappointed by how the media are covering this?
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 31 2012 05:58 GMT
#295
Quite okay in midtown NYC. Some people I know who lived downtown had it rough, basements/lobbies flooded and no power or water, had to leave and make their way up here. People have lost power all over, but midtown seems pretty fine, plenty of stores open and such.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42817 Posts
October 31 2012 06:16 GMT
#296
On October 31 2012 09:35 czylu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 09:18 Black Gun wrote:
On October 31 2012 07:58 Kibibit wrote:
On October 31 2012 06:08 happyft wrote:
Coned said power will be back in 3-4 days

LIPA on the other hand has said 7-10 days, maybe longer. Cuomo has said that he's keeping an eye on LIPA especially given its terrible track record of taking weeks to restore power in the past, and has authorized PSC to watch over LIPA's efforts.

The notion of 90% of Long Island without power for over a week and a half is frankly ridiculous. I guess I'll be commuting to queens every day just to get my work done.

Jesus fuck, man. Hopefully the watchdogs keep them in line, because that's just insane.

vouch. 10 days without power, are you kidding me? whenever i hear about electricity companies in the US, its horrible.

this reminds me of a colleague from pakistan who told me of power outages happening every 2 or so days, but usually only lasting for some few hours. basically, LIPA says they need longer to restore power than some obscure third world country electricity provider.


Did you see that transformer explosion in nyc? This isn't some shoddy electric system in Pakistan that you can fix with some gum and rubberbands, they need to go out and reconstruct every downed pole and energy line. Last year Irene destroyed my town and it took 11 days to finally restore power because there were just so many trees down.

In fairness it took about 6 days for the Japanese to rebuild a motorway that got smashed by the earthquake, if you really throw resources at this kind of shit it can get done.
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EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
October 31 2012 06:31 GMT
#297
it got really really windy last night, i live right near lake ontario
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Exigaet
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada355 Posts
October 31 2012 06:58 GMT
#298
On October 31 2012 15:31 EleanorRIgby wrote:
it got really really windy last night, i live right near lake ontario


Yeah I live in Ottawa and the winds last night were strong enough to snap the top third of a 150 foot tree close to my house. It managed to fall on our phone lines.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
October 31 2012 07:19 GMT
#299
On October 31 2012 14:49 Yenticha wrote:
I (obviously) haven't read every single post in this thread but... how is Haiti doing?
Even searching "haiti sandy" gives me 95% of hits about US, NYC,...
Only got this:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012103075846181519.html

Sounds pretty bad. Yet all I can read about on news websites/facebook/teamliquid is "no electricity for 24 hours, my laptop is dying!" or "no subway for days!". Am I the only one being disappointed by how the media are covering this?

I am too. Houston had no power for 3 weeks or more with Ike and I dont remember anywhere near this amount of fanfare.

I am confused on how there were 50 deaths in the US, Haiti appears to have 51 deaths and I doubt they have anywhere near the structure that shouldve been in place for the US (and it was a Cat 2 for Haiti).

Regardless, hope things are well and restored quickly for all involved.
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 08:10:29
October 31 2012 08:03 GMT
#300
On October 31 2012 16:19 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 14:49 Yenticha wrote:
I (obviously) haven't read every single post in this thread but... how is Haiti doing?
Even searching "haiti sandy" gives me 95% of hits about US, NYC,...
Only got this:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012103075846181519.html

Sounds pretty bad. Yet all I can read about on news websites/facebook/teamliquid is "no electricity for 24 hours, my laptop is dying!" or "no subway for days!". Am I the only one being disappointed by how the media are covering this?

I am too. Houston had no power for 3 weeks or more with Ike and I dont remember anywhere near this amount of fanfare.

I am confused on how there were 50 deaths in the US, Haiti appears to have 51 deaths and I doubt they have anywhere near the structure that shouldve been in place for the US (and it was a Cat 2 for Haiti).

Regardless, hope things are well and restored quickly for all involved.


50 deaths divided by the total landmass+density population that got hit. It'll make more sense after that.

Still, that really sucks for the east coast...
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
October 31 2012 08:10 GMT
#301
On October 31 2012 14:49 Yenticha wrote:
I (obviously) haven't read every single post in this thread but... how is Haiti doing?
Even searching "haiti sandy" gives me 95% of hits about US, NYC,...
Only got this:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012103075846181519.html

Sounds pretty bad. Yet all I can read about on news websites/facebook/teamliquid is "no electricity for 24 hours, my laptop is dying!" or "no subway for days!". Am I the only one being disappointed by how the media are covering this?


You have to understand New York mentality... they generally don't realize that anything exists outside of New York.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 31 2012 08:44 GMT
#302
On October 31 2012 17:10 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 14:49 Yenticha wrote:
I (obviously) haven't read every single post in this thread but... how is Haiti doing?
Even searching "haiti sandy" gives me 95% of hits about US, NYC,...
Only got this:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012103075846181519.html

Sounds pretty bad. Yet all I can read about on news websites/facebook/teamliquid is "no electricity for 24 hours, my laptop is dying!" or "no subway for days!". Am I the only one being disappointed by how the media are covering this?


You have to understand New York mentality... they generally don't realize that anything exists outside of New York.


You're wrong. They at least know a place called Boston exists and that it sucks.

Most people I know in northern NJ lost power, and it's supposed to be freezing there tonight. No heat or electricity when it's cold in NJ...no thanks. D:
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Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 09:07:04
October 31 2012 09:06 GMT
#303
North Jersey resident here. My power just came back on a few hours ago and a good bit of my town is still flooded, but so far the cleanup is going very well.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 31 2012 09:22 GMT
#304
Buddies at Rutgers have the entire week off, but many without power / internet / clean water. + Show Spoiler +
Not sure if jealous or not xD
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
October 31 2012 12:14 GMT
#305
On October 31 2012 18:22 synapse wrote:
Buddies at Rutgers have the entire week off, but many without power / internet / clean water. + Show Spoiler +
Not sure if jealous or not xD


Missing a week of Uni only means more work *shudder*
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19063 Posts
October 31 2012 13:42 GMT
#306
On October 31 2012 15:16 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 09:35 czylu wrote:
On October 31 2012 09:18 Black Gun wrote:
On October 31 2012 07:58 Kibibit wrote:
On October 31 2012 06:08 happyft wrote:
Coned said power will be back in 3-4 days

LIPA on the other hand has said 7-10 days, maybe longer. Cuomo has said that he's keeping an eye on LIPA especially given its terrible track record of taking weeks to restore power in the past, and has authorized PSC to watch over LIPA's efforts.

The notion of 90% of Long Island without power for over a week and a half is frankly ridiculous. I guess I'll be commuting to queens every day just to get my work done.

Jesus fuck, man. Hopefully the watchdogs keep them in line, because that's just insane.

vouch. 10 days without power, are you kidding me? whenever i hear about electricity companies in the US, its horrible.

this reminds me of a colleague from pakistan who told me of power outages happening every 2 or so days, but usually only lasting for some few hours. basically, LIPA says they need longer to restore power than some obscure third world country electricity provider.


Did you see that transformer explosion in nyc? This isn't some shoddy electric system in Pakistan that you can fix with some gum and rubberbands, they need to go out and reconstruct every downed pole and energy line. Last year Irene destroyed my town and it took 11 days to finally restore power because there were just so many trees down.

In fairness it took about 6 days for the Japanese to rebuild a motorway that got smashed by the earthquake, if you really throw resources at this kind of shit it can get done.

Japan has been dealing with earthquakes for a few thousand years and has had a lot of practice. NYC hasn't spent a lot of time with hurricanes.
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Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
October 31 2012 13:43 GMT
#307
Day #3 without power however glad to be back in school. Mandarin gives me something to focus other than StarCraft. Let's hope when I get home however there will be power .
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
October 31 2012 14:36 GMT
#308
Almost 3 full days for me without power, as well. There is power on one road a short drive away so I might take advantage of it if they are selling any food.

I understand it will take lipa a while to fix everything, but as far as I can tell they have still given out zero info about the restoration process. That is what frustrates me.
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
October 31 2012 14:40 GMT
#309
Kings park and Babylon have power, so it's happening. It will come soon!
happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
October 31 2012 15:28 GMT
#310
On October 31 2012 23:36 micronesia wrote:
Almost 3 full days for me without power, as well. There is power on one road a short drive away so I might take advantage of it if they are selling any food.

I understand it will take lipa a while to fix everything, but as far as I can tell they have still given out zero info about the restoration process. That is what frustrates me.


Just heard on 1010 WINS radio an interview of the COO of LIPA where he said they managed to restore power to nearly every hospital and repaired half of the downed substations (1/3rd of substations were out) and began work restoring transmission arrays. The outages went from 940k to 870k this morning, and he estimated as much as 30-35% of outages could be restored over the next 48-60hrs when all the substations and transmission arrays come back online. That's all he was willing to say at that point, they're still doing a lot of assessment on the southern parts of LI which were hit the hardest.

I personally saw several blocks come back with power last night -- namely the blocks around the hospital and a few major intersections. I imagine once the substations and transmission arrays are back on, though, they'll just have to go block by block fixing power lines :T So who knows ... it might take 10 days after all. I mean, at this rate of 70k/day, that's 15 days.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 31 2012 17:09 GMT
#311
Some of the photos from Sandy.

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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44390 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 17:38:29
October 31 2012 17:37 GMT
#312
On October 31 2012 17:44 BlackPaladin wrote:
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On October 31 2012 17:10 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On October 31 2012 14:49 Yenticha wrote:
I (obviously) haven't read every single post in this thread but... how is Haiti doing?
Even searching "haiti sandy" gives me 95% of hits about US, NYC,...
Only got this:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/10/2012103075846181519.html

Sounds pretty bad. Yet all I can read about on news websites/facebook/teamliquid is "no electricity for 24 hours, my laptop is dying!" or "no subway for days!". Am I the only one being disappointed by how the media are covering this?


You have to understand New York mentality... they generally don't realize that anything exists outside of New York.


You're wrong. They at least know a place called Boston exists and that it sucks.

Most people I know in northern NJ lost power, and it's supposed to be freezing there tonight. No heat or electricity when it's cold in NJ...no thanks. D:


It's really not cold in NJ at the moment, so we're fortunate. If this had happened during the winter for us, we would have been whining our asses off ^^ Those of us with power (including myself) don't even have the heat on.

On October 31 2012 18:22 synapse wrote:
Buddies at Rutgers have the entire week off, but many without power / internet / clean water. + Show Spoiler +
Not sure if jealous or not xD


We're super happy that school is closed ^^ Rutgers is notorious for never ever taking off of school, regardless of the weather conditions, despite the fact that over half the student population live off campus/ commute (myself included). It sucks for us when we have to drive through inclement weather. The only time we ever close is when the Raritan River overflows lol.
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Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
October 31 2012 17:39 GMT
#313
It's really not cold in NJ at the moment, so we're fortunate. If this had happened during the winter for us, we would have been whining our asses off ^^ Those of us with power (including myself) don't even have the heat on.

Yep its pretty nice right now. Just had to wear a sweatshirt and sweatpants to bed last night, but other than that it was fine ^^
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
November 01 2012 16:24 GMT
#314
Man, there's like four square blocks in queens that literally burned to the ground. All you can see is tons of foundations.
Then there's a shot of the battery tunnel COMPLETELY submerged. All you can see is the street lights on the overpass, and the "12 FOOT CLEARANCE" sign. Both can be found in the slideshow @ weather.com if anyone's interested.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
November 01 2012 16:31 GMT
#315
Said pictures from the Weather Channel's slide show. Something else.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 01 2012 16:35 GMT
#316
On November 02 2012 01:31 ghost_403 wrote:
Said pictures from the Weather Channel's slide show. Something else.
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This is nuts to see. Living in the Midwest we see tornado damage a fair bit, but nothing like that.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
November 01 2012 16:35 GMT
#317
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i was talking about this one, specifically >.>

micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
November 02 2012 14:50 GMT
#318
Its about to get quite cold (starting tonight) so I would love power back to get the heat going!

Lines for gas for cars take 3 hours, so I'm glad I still have some gas in my car XD
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 16:29:12
November 02 2012 16:24 GMT
#319
Man, I posted on something of the first few pages how I thought this wasn't a big deal since it was a Cat 1 and whatever and holy fuck was I wrong, just want to get that out there and I apologize if any New Yorkers or otherwise affected got offended by what I wrote. I had no idea the circumstances of it merging with a blizzard and all the other shit and how damaging it was. So I apologize for that.

However, I do want to bring some discussion to the table briefly. My economics professor yesterday brought up a pretty interesting point. We were coincidentally talking about how natural disasters affect the economy, and she said that this will probably be extremely good for the economy. Not to say this was a "good" thing, but this is going to be a massive cleanup that is going to take at least 1-2 years to accomplish. That's thousands and maybe tens of thousands of low-skill AND high-skill jobs, that's infrastructure destroyed that needs to rebuilt that makes even more jobs, that's a boom in the housing market in a few years when they get back to rebuilding the thousands of houses destroyed.

What is everyone else's thoughts on that notion? I'm not an economics major, so I would like to hear something from someone who knows a lot more about how much this disaster might give some economic benefits. However, let's not take away from the disaster that this is. Any TL'ers adversely affected by this? ;_;
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
November 02 2012 16:29 GMT
#320
On November 03 2012 01:24 Fruscainte wrote:
Man, I posted on something of the first few pages how I thought this wasn't a big deal since it was a Cat 1 and whatever and holy fuck was I wrong, just want to get that out there and I apologize if any New Yorkers or otherwise affected got offended by what I wrote. I had no idea the circumstances of it merging with a blizzard and all the other shit and how damaging it was. So I apologize for that.

However, I do want to bring some discussion to the table briefly. My economics professor yesterday brought up a pretty interesting point. We were coincidentally talking about how natural disasters affect the economy, and she said that this will probably be extremely good for the economy. Not to say this was a "good" thing, but this is going to be a massive cleanup that is going to take at least 1-2 years to accomplish. That's thousands and maybe tens of thousands of low-skill AND high-skill jobs, that's infrastructure destroyed that needs to rebuilt that makes even more jobs, that's a boom in the housing market in a few years when they get back to rebuilding the thousands of houses destroyed.

What is everyone else's thoughts on that notion? I'm not an economics major, so I would like to hear something from someone who knows a lot more about how much this disaster might give some economic benefits. However, let's not take away from the disaster that this is. Any TL'ers adversely affected by this? ;_;

Why not destroy some stuff yourself so you can rebuild it afterwards? This has the advantage of also providing demolition jobs.
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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
November 02 2012 16:31 GMT
#321
On November 03 2012 01:29 Grumbels wrote:
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On November 03 2012 01:24 Fruscainte wrote:
Man, I posted on something of the first few pages how I thought this wasn't a big deal since it was a Cat 1 and whatever and holy fuck was I wrong, just want to get that out there and I apologize if any New Yorkers or otherwise affected got offended by what I wrote. I had no idea the circumstances of it merging with a blizzard and all the other shit and how damaging it was. So I apologize for that.

However, I do want to bring some discussion to the table briefly. My economics professor yesterday brought up a pretty interesting point. We were coincidentally talking about how natural disasters affect the economy, and she said that this will probably be extremely good for the economy. Not to say this was a "good" thing, but this is going to be a massive cleanup that is going to take at least 1-2 years to accomplish. That's thousands and maybe tens of thousands of low-skill AND high-skill jobs, that's infrastructure destroyed that needs to rebuilt that makes even more jobs, that's a boom in the housing market in a few years when they get back to rebuilding the thousands of houses destroyed.

What is everyone else's thoughts on that notion? I'm not an economics major, so I would like to hear something from someone who knows a lot more about how much this disaster might give some economic benefits. However, let's not take away from the disaster that this is. Any TL'ers adversely affected by this? ;_;

Why not destroy some stuff yourself so you can rebuild it afterwards? This has the advantage of also providing demolition jobs.


Well it does create a lot of temporary jobs, katrina is evidence to that. I guess the question will be how beneficial temp jobs are to the economy.
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 16:34:35
November 02 2012 16:33 GMT
#322
Damage=economic gain theory never works.

Although jobs are gained, people who are harmed by the disaster must pay themselves and thus suffer economically.
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 16:35:38
November 02 2012 16:34 GMT
#323
On November 03 2012 01:31 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:29 Grumbels wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:24 Fruscainte wrote:
Man, I posted on something of the first few pages how I thought this wasn't a big deal since it was a Cat 1 and whatever and holy fuck was I wrong, just want to get that out there and I apologize if any New Yorkers or otherwise affected got offended by what I wrote. I had no idea the circumstances of it merging with a blizzard and all the other shit and how damaging it was. So I apologize for that.

However, I do want to bring some discussion to the table briefly. My economics professor yesterday brought up a pretty interesting point. We were coincidentally talking about how natural disasters affect the economy, and she said that this will probably be extremely good for the economy. Not to say this was a "good" thing, but this is going to be a massive cleanup that is going to take at least 1-2 years to accomplish. That's thousands and maybe tens of thousands of low-skill AND high-skill jobs, that's infrastructure destroyed that needs to rebuilt that makes even more jobs, that's a boom in the housing market in a few years when they get back to rebuilding the thousands of houses destroyed.

What is everyone else's thoughts on that notion? I'm not an economics major, so I would like to hear something from someone who knows a lot more about how much this disaster might give some economic benefits. However, let's not take away from the disaster that this is. Any TL'ers adversely affected by this? ;_;

Why not destroy some stuff yourself so you can rebuild it afterwards? This has the advantage of also providing demolition jobs.


Well it does create a lot of temporary jobs, katrina is evidence to that. I guess the question will be how beneficial temp jobs are to the economy.


Exactly. The example my professor gave was her cousin, an electrical engineer, was struggling hard before this and about to foreclose his home. As soon as this hit, he was getting calls from 4 different companies -- including the one that fired him -- offering him free hotel, free flight, and free food for an entire year on $30/hr on a one year contract. This literally saved his economic life. I don't want to paint this as a positive thing that happened, I'm trying to avoid giving off that vibe as much as I can but I mean, there CAN be some silver lining can't there?

On November 03 2012 01:33 Praetorial wrote:
Damage=economic gain theory never works.

Although jobs are gained, people who are harmed by the disaster must pay themselves and thus suffer economically.


That's kind of the thing I was thinking, the economic damage negates the economic growth.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
November 02 2012 16:37 GMT
#324
On November 03 2012 01:33 Praetorial wrote:
Damage=economic gain theory never works.

Although jobs are gained, people who are harmed by the disaster must pay themselves and thus suffer economically.


I wonder what % of people had flood insurance and what not. In louisiana my parents and pretty much everyone else have really expensive policies that cover pretty much everything with a very low deductible.
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don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
November 02 2012 16:37 GMT
#325
Obviously for some, this will be an opportunity, and for others, disaster.
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Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
November 02 2012 17:17 GMT
#326
I have to say I don't quite understand why OP got a warning for this thread. Was it because he made a thread about Sandy? Or because his post didn't have any links to news sites etc? I had been wondering about the same thing of why there was no existing thread about this and could have made a similar thread because of this so I would like to know why he got the warning.

Anyway. Looks like the storm caused some huge material damage (not to mention the human casualties) so the effects of this storm will probably extend quite far. I think they are talking about even dozens of billions of dollars worth of damage. I'm interested in seeing how long it will take to get the NY subway network back up and running considering that parts of it are currently completely underwater. A 4,5m storm surge in Manhattan sounds really huge.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
November 02 2012 17:21 GMT
#327
Probably because it was a very lazy OP with no information at all.
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DeltaSigmaL
Profile Joined July 2011
United States205 Posts
November 02 2012 18:46 GMT
#328
Well if all an a economy's resources are being used, then yes, the broken window fallacy holds true. But if there are underutilized resources, like labor, then these things can stimulate the economy. So whereas the electrician didn't have a job before, he now has a job, and where the power company was saving up money because they thought the economic climate wasn't right, they now have to use the money.
On November 03 2012 01:34 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:31 heliusx wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:29 Grumbels wrote:
On November 03 2012 01:24 Fruscainte wrote:
Man, I posted on something of the first few pages how I thought this wasn't a big deal since it was a Cat 1 and whatever and holy fuck was I wrong, just want to get that out there and I apologize if any New Yorkers or otherwise affected got offended by what I wrote. I had no idea the circumstances of it merging with a blizzard and all the other shit and how damaging it was. So I apologize for that.

However, I do want to bring some discussion to the table briefly. My economics professor yesterday brought up a pretty interesting point. We were coincidentally talking about how natural disasters affect the economy, and she said that this will probably be extremely good for the economy. Not to say this was a "good" thing, but this is going to be a massive cleanup that is going to take at least 1-2 years to accomplish. That's thousands and maybe tens of thousands of low-skill AND high-skill jobs, that's infrastructure destroyed that needs to rebuilt that makes even more jobs, that's a boom in the housing market in a few years when they get back to rebuilding the thousands of houses destroyed.

What is everyone else's thoughts on that notion? I'm not an economics major, so I would like to hear something from someone who knows a lot more about how much this disaster might give some economic benefits. However, let's not take away from the disaster that this is. Any TL'ers adversely affected by this? ;_;

Why not destroy some stuff yourself so you can rebuild it afterwards? This has the advantage of also providing demolition jobs.


Well it does create a lot of temporary jobs, katrina is evidence to that. I guess the question will be how beneficial temp jobs are to the economy.


Exactly. The example my professor gave was her cousin, an electrical engineer, was struggling hard before this and about to foreclose his home. As soon as this hit, he was getting calls from 4 different companies -- including the one that fired him -- offering him free hotel, free flight, and free food for an entire year on $30/hr on a one year contract. This literally saved his economic life. I don't want to paint this as a positive thing that happened, I'm trying to avoid giving off that vibe as much as I can but I mean, there CAN be some silver lining can't there?

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On November 03 2012 01:33 Praetorial wrote:
Damage=economic gain theory never works.

Although jobs are gained, people who are harmed by the disaster must pay themselves and thus suffer economically.


That's kind of the thing I was thinking, the economic damage negates the economic growth.

EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
November 02 2012 20:41 GMT
#329
On November 03 2012 02:17 Kilby wrote:
I have to say I don't quite understand why OP got a warning for this thread. Was it because he made a thread about Sandy? Or because his post didn't have any links to news sites etc? I had been wondering about the same thing of why there was no existing thread about this and could have made a similar thread because of this so I would like to know why he got the warning.


On November 03 2012 02:21 heliusx wrote:
Probably because it was a very lazy OP with no information at all.


Correct.
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XoXiDe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States620 Posts
November 02 2012 22:21 GMT
#330
I wonder if anyone in this thread lives in New Jersey or New York where most of the flooding as occurred, I'd like to hear a first hand account of how the restoration/help efforts are going. Does it seem like you're getting the help you need? Is it good/bad? Though I wonder if anyone in that situation would be checking TL forums right now.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 00:37:20
November 03 2012 00:35 GMT
#331
Hearing reports that a utility truck from Alabama that went up to help was told to go home because it wasn't union?
The heck is wrong with people up there, people are dying and they care about some union crap? Get a grip!

“Decatur Utilities sent a 6-man crew to the northeast Wednesday, October 31, bound for Seaside Heights, New Jersey, to assist with power restoration. Communications with Seaside Heights was poor due to lack of cell phone service in the area. Upon arriving at a staging area in Virginia, crews were held in place pending clarification of documents received from IBEW that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas. It was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas.”
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 03 2012 00:40 GMT
#332
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.

You have to realize that it isn't the wind that matters, it's the storm surge. The flooding damage is actually pretty severe. I live a few minutes away from Atlantic City New Jersey (inland, thank god) and the damage there is massive. And I used to live in Florida and dealt with large hurricanes as well. Trust me, this storm was a lot worse than you think.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 03 2012 00:42 GMT
#333
On November 03 2012 07:21 XoXiDe wrote:
I wonder if anyone in this thread lives in New Jersey or New York where most of the flooding as occurred, I'd like to hear a first hand account of how the restoration/help efforts are going. Does it seem like you're getting the help you need? Is it good/bad? Though I wonder if anyone in that situation would be checking TL forums right now.

Hey thought I would reply. I live on the New Jersey coast and I have to say the disaster relief crews are actually doing a great job. Barrier Islands are still closed to non-residents, which is a bummer because I wanted to go down and volunteer today, but it seems like the help efforts are going really well all things considered.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
November 03 2012 00:58 GMT
#334
On November 03 2012 09:35 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Hearing reports that a utility truck from Alabama that went up to help was told to go home because it wasn't union?
The heck is wrong with people up there, people are dying and they care about some union crap? Get a grip!

“Decatur Utilities sent a 6-man crew to the northeast Wednesday, October 31, bound for Seaside Heights, New Jersey, to assist with power restoration. Communications with Seaside Heights was poor due to lack of cell phone service in the area. Upon arriving at a staging area in Virginia, crews were held in place pending clarification of documents received from IBEW that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas. It was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas.”


Thus why unions are SO fucking terrible for the sake of actually getting shit done...
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Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 01:39:41
November 03 2012 01:27 GMT
#335
On November 03 2012 09:58 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 09:35 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Hearing reports that a utility truck from Alabama that went up to help was told to go home because it wasn't union?
The heck is wrong with people up there, people are dying and they care about some union crap? Get a grip!

“Decatur Utilities sent a 6-man crew to the northeast Wednesday, October 31, bound for Seaside Heights, New Jersey, to assist with power restoration. Communications with Seaside Heights was poor due to lack of cell phone service in the area. Upon arriving at a staging area in Virginia, crews were held in place pending clarification of documents received from IBEW that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas. It was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas.”


Thus why unions are SO fucking terrible for the sake of actually getting shit done...


Good thing the story isn't true then.

To clarify - the local unions are all saying they dont care and are saying they are accepting all help. Some have turned away help because they can't support anymore workers - not enough supplies or whatever to go around - they just need time, not more men on the ground.
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 01:36:13
November 03 2012 01:34 GMT
#336
On November 03 2012 09:40 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.

You have to realize that it isn't the wind that matters, it's the storm surge. The flooding damage is actually pretty severe. I live a few minutes away from Atlantic City New Jersey (inland, thank god) and the damage there is massive. And I used to live in Florida and dealt with large hurricanes as well. Trust me, this storm was a lot worse than you think.


I know how a hurricane works ok, I know most damage comes from the flooding and storm surge not the winds.

I have to rescind my previous marks after seeing the 24/7 news coverage for about a week now. The storm did shit ton of damage and it's unbelievable.

All I'm left with now is thinking why isn't the entire eastern seaboard actually prepared for these things, is it just not feasible financially to actually have things up to code to withstand a Cat 1-2 hurricane? Same thing happened in New Orleans with Katrina, they weren't prepared at all to be hit by a major hurricane and they paid dearly for it. Now it happens to be the northern part of the country paying for it. Albeit they rarely get storms of this magnitude if ever, shouldn't they have some kind of protection more than they did? It seems they only thing they were prepared to do was the tell everyone to evacuate and hope for the best. Seems to be Katrina all over again except in NYC/Jersey and they actually have aid helping the day after.

On November 03 2012 10:27 Bigtony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 09:58 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On November 03 2012 09:35 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Hearing reports that a utility truck from Alabama that went up to help was told to go home because it wasn't union?
The heck is wrong with people up there, people are dying and they care about some union crap? Get a grip!

“Decatur Utilities sent a 6-man crew to the northeast Wednesday, October 31, bound for Seaside Heights, New Jersey, to assist with power restoration. Communications with Seaside Heights was poor due to lack of cell phone service in the area. Upon arriving at a staging area in Virginia, crews were held in place pending clarification of documents received from IBEW that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas. It was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas.”


Thus why unions are SO fucking terrible for the sake of actually getting shit done...


Good thing the story isn't true then.


Ya I don't see a source anywhere, probably just some rumour people are spreading because of the devastation.
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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
November 03 2012 01:40 GMT
#337
Not even remotely close to katrina all over again. katrina killed thousands of people and levels thousands of homes and buildings.
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Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 01:42:25
November 03 2012 01:42 GMT
#338
The thing is, even a category 2 hurricane would not have done this. The storm surge was caused by bad timing (first day of the full moon and hitting right at high-tide time) and the addition of a second powerful storm system combining with the hurricane. You can't 'prepare' for that kind of thing really.

As for New Orleans I believe their levies broke and the entire city is below sea level. Most/all the affected areas here are right at sea level (though they were abysmally prepared) or above.
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 01:45:52
November 03 2012 01:45 GMT
#339
On November 03 2012 01:37 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 01:33 Praetorial wrote:
Damage=economic gain theory never works.

Although jobs are gained, people who are harmed by the disaster must pay themselves and thus suffer economically.


I wonder what % of people had flood insurance and what not. In louisiana my parents and pretty much everyone else have really expensive policies that cover pretty much everything with a very low deductible.


Flood is usually written as a monoline policy by the government, where the terms are not so hot. Usually flood insurance has a high deductible that cannot be amended, and coverage is limited for personal lines to around 500k property (building) and 100k contents. To go beyond this you need special insurance, but then again if your parents are paying this they very well might have it. Although with flood specifically, I'm not sure they can remove or get a super low deductible. Most other lines you can, such as wind dmg.

Almost all homeowners policies are identical in the coverage they're provided. Sure, you can get broader coverage, but the coverage that exists is typically already on a "EVERYTHING is covered EXCEPT these few things listed." So really, all they may have done is remove those exceptions. For example, flood, volcano, and earthquake are all excluded.

On November 03 2012 10:40 heliusx wrote:
Not even remotely close to katrina all over again. katrina killed thousands of people and levels thousands of homes and buildings.


Primarily because the levies broke though as opposed to the storm itself.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
November 03 2012 01:52 GMT
#340
On November 03 2012 10:34 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +



Thus why unions are SO fucking terrible for the sake of actually getting shit done...


Good thing the story isn't true then.


Ya I don't see a source anywhere, probably just some rumour people are spreading because of the devastation.


It's not that the story isnt true, or that people are making up rumors. There was a crew of workers from Alabama that waited in Virginia and turned around and went home. They had interpreted the issue as a union problem. All officials claim it was miscommunication and misunderstanding. Googling simply "union workers sandy" will point you to the related news articles.

There is enough confusion and chaos and totally random and non directed good will going around as to make managing relief efforts, at times, a sizable task.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
November 03 2012 02:20 GMT
#341
On November 03 2012 10:40 heliusx wrote:
Not even remotely close to katrina all over again. katrina killed thousands of people and levels thousands of homes and buildings.


Minus the thousands killed, it's the same.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
November 03 2012 02:26 GMT
#342
I'm glad the nyc mayor postponed the marathon.

I'm going to bed, and I aint getting out of bed until I have power back....too cold now. Goodbye tl!
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 03 2012 03:03 GMT
#343
Night micro.
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DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
November 03 2012 03:06 GMT
#344
Bloomberg really needs to go after the disgrace that is Staten Island and to a lesser degree Brooklyn, and his idiotic insistence on holding the Marathon until someone took him aside and pointed out how truly stupid it would be. Message to New Yorkers: if you aren't in Manhattan, you're not important to your Nanny Mayor.
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Inertiaddict
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 05:10:34
November 03 2012 03:22 GMT
#345
I'm a New Yorker, on Long Island. I live in a town called Ronkonkoma and we traveled to Deer Park and back (In the prime time of the storm, 7:30pm Monday night). It's a 20 minute ride down the Long Island Expressway. Feel free to Google Map it. Just for the sake of adding to the discussion I'll say a couple things, since I experienced it a bit, first-hand.

I was out in the hurricane. I was driving with my girlfriend. The lights were out, entirely, traffic, stores, etc. The first night there was nothing, no cops, or anything. There wasn't that much rain either, actually. It was a lot of wind. A lot. The thing you had to worry about was a tree falling on you.

I saw sparks coming down from telephone poles. Trees lay across the entire street wrapped in live electrical wiring dancing on the street causing sparks on the road and small fires in the shrubbery. People were on the side of the roads with hazards on and flares (just being hazards, themselves).

While I was reversing down the block because of a fallen tree a power line became entangled on my drivers side mirror. I thought I was going to get electrocuted. It was scary. Luckily, I was able to free the cable (not with my hand, but with the motion of the car as I opened my door at the same time, phew -.-; )

Trees are down everywhere and that would seem to be the biggest problem. It's very common to see this now as the lawn for every house:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Seriously, this type of thing is everywhere.
[image loading]
Every other piece of property on a block looks like this.


The flooding happened too, but that's basically Lindenhurst and Rockaway Beach, beach areas near the coast. The whole island isn't flooded, but where is was flooded was horrible. There it looks more like:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
The houses near the water were virtually ripped apart. It's fairly tragic. The people near Staten Island and NJ got hit really badly. They need help.


I hear the City is bad too, maybe even worse in a different way. Multiple layers of subway tunnels are completely flooded. I have no idea where they will pump all the water to. I mean, i'm sure thay haqve a plan, but I don't know what it is.

I was lucky. I have power and I never lost it. I did lose cable and internet, though, and they are still not back. I cannot play Starcraft 2 right now. Somewhere around 90% of L.I. lost power. Some of my friends have said it could take 2 or 3 weeks for LIPA to restore the power. That's nuts. houses are getting cold and food is spoiling. School's cancelled all week. Next week too, for Election Day. The kids are having a blast.

I guess that's all there is to say, without glorifying anything. I haven't heard a death toll, and I kind of don't want to, though, I'm sure Katrina was much worse in that regard, anyway.

The scary part now is the gasoline shortage. He's a pic from my friend Facebook wall as he sits on a 3 HOUR LINE for gasoline for his car. Not kidding. People are waiting on lines that stretch down the road passed two other closed gas stations to get to the one that still has.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

It's all a bit to take in, honestly. Hope this helps and educates. Thanks guys, any questions, I'll try to come back and check for 'em.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
November 03 2012 03:30 GMT
#346
On November 03 2012 01:33 Praetorial wrote:
Damage=economic gain theory never works.

Although jobs are gained, people who are harmed by the disaster must pay themselves and thus suffer economically.

It's a fallacy, i don't know who would seriously think that if they put 1 min into forming a comment, all it does it make money spent in one area instead of the money being spent somewhere else. But because the reason for it was destruction the overall equity in the area goes down and the econ suffers.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 04:34:11
November 03 2012 04:33 GMT
#347
On November 03 2012 12:22 Inertiaddict wrote:
I'm a New Yorker, on Long Island. I live in a town called Ronkonkoma and we traveled to Deer Park and back (In the prime time of the storm, 7:30pm Monday night). It's a 20 minute ride down the Long Island Expressway. Feel free to Google Map it. Just for the sake of adding to the discussion I'll say a couple things, since I experienced it a bit, first-hand.

I was out in the hurricane. I was driving with my girlfriend. The lights were out, entirely, traffic, stores, etc. The first night there was nothing, no cops, or anything. There wasn't that much rain either, actually. It was a lot of wind. A lot. The thing you had to worry about was a tree falling on you.

I saw sparks coming down from telephone poles. Trees lay across the entire street wrapped in live electrical wiring dancing on the street causing sparks on the road and small fires in the shrubbery. People were on the side of the roads with hazards on and flares (just being hazards, themselves).

While I was reversing down the block because of a fallen tree a power line became entangled on my drivers side mirror. I thought I was going to get electrocuted. It was scary. Luckily, I was able to free the cable (not with my hand, but with the motion of the car as I opened my door at the same time, phew -.-; )

+ Show Spoiler +
Trees are down everywhere and that would seem to be the biggest problem. It's very common to see this now as the lawn for every house:
[image loading]
Seriously, this type of thing is everywhere.
[image loading]
Every other piece of property on a block looks like this.

The flooding happened too, but that's basically Lindenhurst and Rockaway Beach, beach areas near the coast. The whole island isn't flooded, but where is was flooded was horrible. There it looks more like:
[image loading]
The houses near the water were virtually ripped apart. It's fairly tragic. The people near Staten Island and NJ got hit really badly. They need help.

I hear the City is bad too, maybe even worse in a different way. Multiple layers of subway tunnels are completely flooded. I have no idea where they will pump all the water to. I mean, i'm sure thay haqve a plan, but I don't know what it is.

I was lucky. I have power and I never lost it. I did lose cable and internet, though, and they are still not back. I cannot play Starcraft 2 right now. Somewhere around 90% of L.I. lost power. Some of my friends have said it could take 2 or 3 weeks for LIPA to restore the power. That's nuts. houses are getting cold and food is spoiling. School's cancelled all week. Next week too, for Election Day. The kids are having a blast.

I guess that's all there is to say, without glorifying anything. I haven't heard a death toll, and I kind of don't want to, though, I'm sure Katrina was much worse in that regard, anyway.

The scary part now is the gasoline shortage. He's a pic from my friend Facebook wall as he sits on a 3 HOUR LINE for gasoline for his car. Not kidding. People are waiting on lines that stretch down the road passed two other closed gas stations to get to the one that still has.
[image loading]

It's all a bit to take in, honestly. Hope this helps and educates. Thanks guys, any questions, I'll try to come back and check for 'em.


Funnily enough, a lot of people will be praying their houses caught fire or had a tree smash their house, if they were caught in a flood zone. Homeowners policies will cover wind damage (including dmg from fallen trees) and fire damage, but excludes flood damage, which you have to buy separately and isn't as commonly purchased (also high deductible, limited coverage, generally run by gov't and less efficient).

On the West Coast you pray for the same thing during an earthquake if you don't have earthquake insurance and your house gets fucked. A funny joke I even heard today was one insurance agent we know who doesn't purchase his own Earthquake insurance has a set of matches with the words "Earthquake Insurance" written on it. House gets fucked in an earthquake? "Oh... the earthquake somehow caused a gas leak, and caused a fire causing my house to burn down completely, thanks for the insurance coverage!"

While a joke, he actually had the matches with that written on it >_<. Haha.
XoXiDe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States620 Posts
November 03 2012 05:10 GMT
#348
On November 03 2012 09:42 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 07:21 XoXiDe wrote:
I wonder if anyone in this thread lives in New Jersey or New York where most of the flooding as occurred, I'd like to hear a first hand account of how the restoration/help efforts are going. Does it seem like you're getting the help you need? Is it good/bad? Though I wonder if anyone in that situation would be checking TL forums right now.

Hey thought I would reply. I live on the New Jersey coast and I have to say the disaster relief crews are actually doing a great job. Barrier Islands are still closed to non-residents, which is a bummer because I wanted to go down and volunteer today, but it seems like the help efforts are going really well all things considered.


Thanks! good to hear on the ground perspective.
TEXAN
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
November 03 2012 06:51 GMT
#349
On November 03 2012 13:33 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 12:22 Inertiaddict wrote:
I'm a New Yorker, on Long Island. I live in a town called Ronkonkoma and we traveled to Deer Park and back (In the prime time of the storm, 7:30pm Monday night). It's a 20 minute ride down the Long Island Expressway. Feel free to Google Map it. Just for the sake of adding to the discussion I'll say a couple things, since I experienced it a bit, first-hand.

I was out in the hurricane. I was driving with my girlfriend. The lights were out, entirely, traffic, stores, etc. The first night there was nothing, no cops, or anything. There wasn't that much rain either, actually. It was a lot of wind. A lot. The thing you had to worry about was a tree falling on you.

I saw sparks coming down from telephone poles. Trees lay across the entire street wrapped in live electrical wiring dancing on the street causing sparks on the road and small fires in the shrubbery. People were on the side of the roads with hazards on and flares (just being hazards, themselves).

While I was reversing down the block because of a fallen tree a power line became entangled on my drivers side mirror. I thought I was going to get electrocuted. It was scary. Luckily, I was able to free the cable (not with my hand, but with the motion of the car as I opened my door at the same time, phew -.-; )

+ Show Spoiler +
Trees are down everywhere and that would seem to be the biggest problem. It's very common to see this now as the lawn for every house:
[image loading]
Seriously, this type of thing is everywhere.
[image loading]
Every other piece of property on a block looks like this.

The flooding happened too, but that's basically Lindenhurst and Rockaway Beach, beach areas near the coast. The whole island isn't flooded, but where is was flooded was horrible. There it looks more like:
[image loading]
The houses near the water were virtually ripped apart. It's fairly tragic. The people near Staten Island and NJ got hit really badly. They need help.

I hear the City is bad too, maybe even worse in a different way. Multiple layers of subway tunnels are completely flooded. I have no idea where they will pump all the water to. I mean, i'm sure thay haqve a plan, but I don't know what it is.

I was lucky. I have power and I never lost it. I did lose cable and internet, though, and they are still not back. I cannot play Starcraft 2 right now. Somewhere around 90% of L.I. lost power. Some of my friends have said it could take 2 or 3 weeks for LIPA to restore the power. That's nuts. houses are getting cold and food is spoiling. School's cancelled all week. Next week too, for Election Day. The kids are having a blast.

I guess that's all there is to say, without glorifying anything. I haven't heard a death toll, and I kind of don't want to, though, I'm sure Katrina was much worse in that regard, anyway.

The scary part now is the gasoline shortage. He's a pic from my friend Facebook wall as he sits on a 3 HOUR LINE for gasoline for his car. Not kidding. People are waiting on lines that stretch down the road passed two other closed gas stations to get to the one that still has.
[image loading]

It's all a bit to take in, honestly. Hope this helps and educates. Thanks guys, any questions, I'll try to come back and check for 'em.


Funnily enough, a lot of people will be praying their houses caught fire or had a tree smash their house, if they were caught in a flood zone. Homeowners policies will cover wind damage (including dmg from fallen trees) and fire damage, but excludes flood damage, which you have to buy separately and isn't as commonly purchased (also high deductible, limited coverage, generally run by gov't and less efficient).

On the West Coast you pray for the same thing during an earthquake if you don't have earthquake insurance and your house gets fucked. A funny joke I even heard today was one insurance agent we know who doesn't purchase his own Earthquake insurance has a set of matches with the words "Earthquake Insurance" written on it. House gets fucked in an earthquake? "Oh... the earthquake somehow caused a gas leak, and caused a fire causing my house to burn down completely, thanks for the insurance coverage!"

While a joke, he actually had the matches with that written on it >_<. Haha.

SF 1906? earthquake fires were in part caused by people who didn't have earthquake insurance so they set their house on fire hoping to collect off that, hopefully people don't get those kind of ideas. Flood insurance is too risky for avg insurers which is why they normally don't cover it and is often offered as another plan which gets subsided by the government in order to get plans out there.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 03 2012 08:26 GMT
#350
On November 03 2012 15:51 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 13:33 FabledIntegral wrote:
On November 03 2012 12:22 Inertiaddict wrote:
I'm a New Yorker, on Long Island. I live in a town called Ronkonkoma and we traveled to Deer Park and back (In the prime time of the storm, 7:30pm Monday night). It's a 20 minute ride down the Long Island Expressway. Feel free to Google Map it. Just for the sake of adding to the discussion I'll say a couple things, since I experienced it a bit, first-hand.

I was out in the hurricane. I was driving with my girlfriend. The lights were out, entirely, traffic, stores, etc. The first night there was nothing, no cops, or anything. There wasn't that much rain either, actually. It was a lot of wind. A lot. The thing you had to worry about was a tree falling on you.

I saw sparks coming down from telephone poles. Trees lay across the entire street wrapped in live electrical wiring dancing on the street causing sparks on the road and small fires in the shrubbery. People were on the side of the roads with hazards on and flares (just being hazards, themselves).

While I was reversing down the block because of a fallen tree a power line became entangled on my drivers side mirror. I thought I was going to get electrocuted. It was scary. Luckily, I was able to free the cable (not with my hand, but with the motion of the car as I opened my door at the same time, phew -.-; )

+ Show Spoiler +
Trees are down everywhere and that would seem to be the biggest problem. It's very common to see this now as the lawn for every house:
[image loading]
Seriously, this type of thing is everywhere.
[image loading]
Every other piece of property on a block looks like this.

The flooding happened too, but that's basically Lindenhurst and Rockaway Beach, beach areas near the coast. The whole island isn't flooded, but where is was flooded was horrible. There it looks more like:
[image loading]
The houses near the water were virtually ripped apart. It's fairly tragic. The people near Staten Island and NJ got hit really badly. They need help.

I hear the City is bad too, maybe even worse in a different way. Multiple layers of subway tunnels are completely flooded. I have no idea where they will pump all the water to. I mean, i'm sure thay haqve a plan, but I don't know what it is.

I was lucky. I have power and I never lost it. I did lose cable and internet, though, and they are still not back. I cannot play Starcraft 2 right now. Somewhere around 90% of L.I. lost power. Some of my friends have said it could take 2 or 3 weeks for LIPA to restore the power. That's nuts. houses are getting cold and food is spoiling. School's cancelled all week. Next week too, for Election Day. The kids are having a blast.

I guess that's all there is to say, without glorifying anything. I haven't heard a death toll, and I kind of don't want to, though, I'm sure Katrina was much worse in that regard, anyway.

The scary part now is the gasoline shortage. He's a pic from my friend Facebook wall as he sits on a 3 HOUR LINE for gasoline for his car. Not kidding. People are waiting on lines that stretch down the road passed two other closed gas stations to get to the one that still has.
[image loading]

It's all a bit to take in, honestly. Hope this helps and educates. Thanks guys, any questions, I'll try to come back and check for 'em.


Funnily enough, a lot of people will be praying their houses caught fire or had a tree smash their house, if they were caught in a flood zone. Homeowners policies will cover wind damage (including dmg from fallen trees) and fire damage, but excludes flood damage, which you have to buy separately and isn't as commonly purchased (also high deductible, limited coverage, generally run by gov't and less efficient).

On the West Coast you pray for the same thing during an earthquake if you don't have earthquake insurance and your house gets fucked. A funny joke I even heard today was one insurance agent we know who doesn't purchase his own Earthquake insurance has a set of matches with the words "Earthquake Insurance" written on it. House gets fucked in an earthquake? "Oh... the earthquake somehow caused a gas leak, and caused a fire causing my house to burn down completely, thanks for the insurance coverage!"

While a joke, he actually had the matches with that written on it >_<. Haha.

SF 1906? earthquake fires were in part caused by people who didn't have earthquake insurance so they set their house on fire hoping to collect off that, hopefully people don't get those kind of ideas. Flood insurance is too risky for avg insurers which is why they normally don't cover it and is often offered as another plan which gets subsided by the government in order to get plans out there.


So what's the point you're trying to make.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 08:47:23
November 03 2012 08:46 GMT
#351
Fuck Sandy. It wasn't too terrible or anything but no power for almost a week now.

sigh

Also, have you guys ever driven while there's a complete power outage? No street lights? Shit is chaos.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Dekoth
Profile Joined March 2010
United States527 Posts
November 03 2012 12:31 GMT
#352
On November 03 2012 12:22 Inertiaddict wrote:
I'm a New Yorker, on Long Island. I live in a town called Ronkonkoma and we traveled to Deer Park and back (In the prime time of the storm, 7:30pm Monday night). It's a 20 minute ride down the Long Island Expressway. Feel free to Google Map it. Just for the sake of adding to the discussion I'll say a couple things, since I experienced it a bit, first-hand.

I was out in the hurricane. I was driving with my girlfriend. The lights were out, entirely, traffic, stores, etc. The first night there was nothing, no cops, or anything. There wasn't that much rain either, actually. It was a lot of wind. A lot. The thing you had to worry about was a tree falling on you.

I saw sparks coming down from telephone poles. Trees lay across the entire street wrapped in live electrical wiring dancing on the street causing sparks on the road and small fires in the shrubbery. People were on the side of the roads with hazards on and flares (just being hazards, themselves).

While I was reversing down the block because of a fallen tree a power line became entangled on my drivers side mirror. I thought I was going to get electrocuted. It was scary. Luckily, I was able to free the cable (not with my hand, but with the motion of the car as I opened my door at the same time, phew -.-; )

Trees are down everywhere and that would seem to be the biggest problem. It's very common to see this now as the lawn for every house:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Seriously, this type of thing is everywhere.
[image loading]
Every other piece of property on a block looks like this.


The flooding happened too, but that's basically Lindenhurst and Rockaway Beach, beach areas near the coast. The whole island isn't flooded, but where is was flooded was horrible. There it looks more like:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
The houses near the water were virtually ripped apart. It's fairly tragic. The people near Staten Island and NJ got hit really badly. They need help.


I hear the City is bad too, maybe even worse in a different way. Multiple layers of subway tunnels are completely flooded. I have no idea where they will pump all the water to. I mean, i'm sure thay haqve a plan, but I don't know what it is.

I was lucky. I have power and I never lost it. I did lose cable and internet, though, and they are still not back. I cannot play Starcraft 2 right now. Somewhere around 90% of L.I. lost power. Some of my friends have said it could take 2 or 3 weeks for LIPA to restore the power. That's nuts. houses are getting cold and food is spoiling. School's cancelled all week. Next week too, for Election Day. The kids are having a blast.

I guess that's all there is to say, without glorifying anything. I haven't heard a death toll, and I kind of don't want to, though, I'm sure Katrina was much worse in that regard, anyway.

The scary part now is the gasoline shortage. He's a pic from my friend Facebook wall as he sits on a 3 HOUR LINE for gasoline for his car. Not kidding. People are waiting on lines that stretch down the road passed two other closed gas stations to get to the one that still has.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

It's all a bit to take in, honestly. Hope this helps and educates. Thanks guys, any questions, I'll try to come back and check for 'em.



Glad to hear things are ok for you. I have friends in Queens and in NJ I am still trying to contact. As for upstate where it was also supposed to get bad, it didn't. We had 1 night of high winds and a ton of rain but nothing even remotely serious.

That said I am getting tired of the katrina comparisons. There is no comparison whatsoever and anyone who thinks so has obviously never been through a hurricane. NY and NJ had two things working against them; 1 the unfortunate timing of tide and 2 the fact that they never updated their levy system even after the lessons learned from katrina. Minus these two factors, Sandy was not a bad hurricane. Sandy ended up far worse then a typical Cat 1 due to incredibly bad timing.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 03 2012 13:30 GMT
#353
Still no subway service here, having to take so many detours just to get to school is a pain -_-
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
November 03 2012 16:50 GMT
#354
The death toll from Sandy is apparently 109 in the US now
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
dp
Profile Joined August 2003
United States234 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 23:43:35
November 03 2012 23:40 GMT
#355
Just a little info from the raritan bay area of central New Jersey.. It was pretty bad for the shore lined towns. Its easy to say 'why weren't they ready?!' but the reality is that some places haven't been hit like this ever. In Union Beach over 100 houses were washed away. My nieces home, which the family has lived in for over 50 years was destroyed by floods. They never expected the water to rise as high as it did.

My gf's friend's sister was on her roof as her house collapsed beneath her. She had to jump from the roof to a floating fridge door and onto another roof of a house that didn't float away. Her pets and home were all lost. All down from Union Beach to Keansburg to Atlantic Highlands had incredible damage done by this storm.

I haven't had power since Monday and don't expect it back before next week at this rate, and my town wasn't hit as bad as others. It might not be too cold for some to just bundle up extra and hide out under covers but with a 5 month old, you can't do that. If you didn't get hit bad, be glad.
:o
Atrbyg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States513 Posts
November 03 2012 23:42 GMT
#356
Yay just got power back. Live in Northern New Jersey so damage wasn't that bad.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
November 04 2012 03:58 GMT
#357
I live in East Village (Manhattan) next to the river and we got electricity back yesterday. It was sooner than we were told to expect (we were told that the power won't be restored by Sunday and possibly by Wednesday). I went uptown to visit a friend and when I was coming back and saw lights on in my building I was feeling beyond happy. Like a small kid at Christass just about to open gifts.

We still have no hot water and heating. We were told that we will have to wait up to a week to get heating and possibly another week for hot water. But having power back is huge!

Lower Manhattan looked surreal post-Sandy. It really felt as if I am in a movie like "I Am Legend". I hope any other TLers that were affected by the hurricane are fine...
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4335 Posts
November 04 2012 12:02 GMT
#358
Been reading the shocking reports of looting especially on Staten Island.Will this debacle cause New York to rethink it's insane gun control laws? The police cannot be everywhere at once, people should have a right to defend their homes and families from looters and burglars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 04 2012 19:40 GMT
#359
It won't change anything in NYC or NJ.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4335 Posts
November 04 2012 23:22 GMT
#360
On November 05 2012 04:40 BlackPaladin wrote:
It won't change anything in NYC or NJ.

Big sodas are more of an issue for mayor Bloomberg than people being able to protect their homes from looters.It's a sad state of affairs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
November 05 2012 03:07 GMT
#361
As long as I don't have power you can't use this thread to discuss gun laws and soda laws you crazy mofos.

Talk about first world problems beyatches.
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Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
November 05 2012 03:28 GMT
#362
As long as I don't have power

Still no power? D:

Its going to be a cold one tonight, take care, micro!
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KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
November 05 2012 03:48 GMT
#363
No power where I'm in Woodside either. =( From what I heard it's not getting restored by the 9th cause pockets in Queens aren't their priority =\.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
November 05 2012 03:49 GMT
#364
Just got power back today woooooooooo
Everyone needs a nemesis.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
November 05 2012 04:18 GMT
#365
For the stragglers, we will all remember where we were and what we did when the power came back on.

It will go on the same list as 9/11, the Kennedy assassination, etc..

For the people across the street from me it will be: felt sorry for the schmucks across the street

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Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
November 05 2012 04:20 GMT
#366
I was lucky. I went to sleep at 11pm, woke up at 7am to find my power was back.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 22:43:09
November 05 2012 18:56 GMT
#367
Still without power since the 29th, they said we might get it around thursday the 8th.. (currently posting from school)

edit: Power restored (5th)
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nettleberry
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States201 Posts
November 06 2012 20:52 GMT
#368
On November 03 2012 12:22 Inertiaddict wrote:
While I was reversing down the block because of a fallen tree a power line became entangled on my drivers side mirror. I thought I was going to get electrocuted. It was scary. Luckily, I was able to free the cable (not with my hand, but with the motion of the car as I opened my door at the same time, phew -.-; )

Just for future reference, please don't open the car door if your car has a power line on it. You're safe inside the car as the power is routed around you to the ground. By opening the door you risk a discharge from your frame or from the wire itself, though the real danger is if you try to get out and the power can find a connection to the ground. If you can, get someone outside to help you.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24691 Posts
November 06 2012 20:54 GMT
#369
May as well post that I just got power back.

I'm in NY so it's a bit surreal that the crews working on my block were from Houston, Texas!
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Alasper
Profile Joined June 2011
179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 21:33:37
November 06 2012 21:29 GMT
#370
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.



Why don't you come to hoboken and see what people were "freaking out about."

Got power back last night. This storm did restore some of my faith in humanity though, the amount of people that volunteered their time to help those without power or food blew my mind. Hope everyone is ok..
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NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
November 06 2012 21:45 GMT
#371
On November 07 2012 06:29 Alasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 07:43 Zooper31 wrote:
This thing is barely a Cat 1. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Shit I lived in Florida and a Cat 3 barely made us change our plans or stock up on supplies.

It's a glorified lightning/thunder storm.



Why don't you come to hoboken and see what people were "freaking out about."

Got power back last night. This storm did restore some of my faith in humanity though, the amount of people that volunteered their time to help those without power or food blew my mind. Hope everyone is ok..


He posted that before it hit the cold current coming down which caused a flux and massive increase into a hurricane. It was just a tropical or near tropical at the time
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
November 07 2012 03:49 GMT
#372
i mean. thats why people were freaking out. Its not like the turn it took was a surprise.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
November 07 2012 04:47 GMT
#373
Still no power here. Probably going to have to stay up all night Wednesday to monitor the sump pump and generator during the storm. Yay.
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Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
November 07 2012 12:53 GMT
#374
anyone got some kinda map that displays where did Sandy hit NYC exactly? I actually have a flight there in mid-December. Very unsure of situations over there, how fast is the recovery; whether I should postpone my trip. =/
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
November 07 2012 12:56 GMT
#375
On November 07 2012 21:53 Deshkar wrote:
anyone got some kinda map that displays where did Sandy hit NYC exactly? I actually have a flight there in mid-December. Very unsure of situations over there, how fast is the recovery; whether I should postpone my trip. =/


It'd be easier for you to let us know where you plan to go. I assume it's Manhattan, which is mostly untouched (except for the bottom tip).
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Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
November 07 2012 13:05 GMT
#376
On November 07 2012 21:56 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 21:53 Deshkar wrote:
anyone got some kinda map that displays where did Sandy hit NYC exactly? I actually have a flight there in mid-December. Very unsure of situations over there, how fast is the recovery; whether I should postpone my trip. =/


It'd be easier for you to let us know where you plan to go. I assume it's Manhattan, which is mostly untouched (except for the bottom tip).


Ya manhattan, area around central park. Would really appreciate any info, I'm under the impression that it was barely hit and that alot of the recovery in the area are pretty well and fast. News on the web, go from okay to total chaos, hard to filter.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
November 07 2012 14:33 GMT
#377
On November 07 2012 22:05 Deshkar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 21:56 JinDesu wrote:
On November 07 2012 21:53 Deshkar wrote:
anyone got some kinda map that displays where did Sandy hit NYC exactly? I actually have a flight there in mid-December. Very unsure of situations over there, how fast is the recovery; whether I should postpone my trip. =/


It'd be easier for you to let us know where you plan to go. I assume it's Manhattan, which is mostly untouched (except for the bottom tip).


Ya manhattan, area around central park. Would really appreciate any info, I'm under the impression that it was barely hit and that alot of the recovery in the area are pretty well and fast. News on the web, go from okay to total chaos, hard to filter.


Big update:

Don't come in the next two days. Strong snowstorm/rain with strong winds supposedly coming in.

After - probably ok.
Yargh
happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
November 07 2012 17:40 GMT
#378
Still no power myself, I think a lot of people have lost confidence in LIPA. I'm not even sure I can believe LIPA's outage numbers that they report, who knows if they're making them up or not. I've read articles where people see that the LIPA outage map says they have power so they call and LIPA's like, "You have power" and the guy's like, "No, I don't, and neither does my whole neighborhood."

Well my family has temporarily moved to an apartment in Queens. 90% of my neighborhood got power back 7 days ago, me and 5 houses are still waiting -- who knows how long it'll take?
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
November 07 2012 19:54 GMT
#379
Finally got power back at my house in central jersey. I think most of my town has power now, but I know there are still a lot of power lines down from driving home last night from school. Hopefully everyone gets it back soon because it is pretty cold out now plus it is snowing. Can't wait to play some DotA when I get back.
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