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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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Romantic
United States1844 Posts
On October 03 2012 10:42 BrokenMirage wrote: Read the Death Note Rules- So DN guy could give himself something like HIV (Edit: Not AIDS) that would take many years to kill him, guaranteeing a longish life? Oh poop, nevermind, there is a 1-year limit. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
Deathnote guy can write his own name in it, and specify the cause of death as an illness that takes more than a year to kill a healthy person (bypassing the 23-day-rule using the rules involving diseases). Therefore he cannot die before then, making sure that other competitors cannot kill him, and also that they will all die within the year, since if they didn't he would die at the end of they year. All the other details were counters to attacks trying to kill him before he finished establishing his pseudo-immortality for the year. Deathnote guys becomes god. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
That´s not stated in the OP. | ||
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Zahir
United States947 Posts
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antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
On October 03 2012 11:36 BrokenMirage wrote: To summarize my previous post which many people no doubt glanced at and thought tl;dr. Deathnote guy can write his own name in it, and specify the cause of death as an illness that takes more than a year to kill a healthy person (bypassing the 23-day-rule using the rules involving diseases). Therefore he cannot die before then, making sure that other competitors cannot kill him, and also that they will all die within the year, since if they didn't he would die at the end of they year. All the other details were counters to attacks trying to kill him before he finished establishing his pseudo-immortality for the year. Deathnote guys becomes god. Where's the clause saying the only way for a guy die after his name is wrote on DN is by DN's power? I'm pretty sure Raito would have written his name before Ryuk if he had the chance of doing it. | ||
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JackReacher
United States197 Posts
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Sephiren
United States85 Posts
No free will. On October 03 2012 11:36 BrokenMirage wrote: To summarize my previous post which many people no doubt glanced at and thought tl;dr. Deathnote guy can write his own name in it, and specify the cause of death as an illness that takes more than a year to kill a healthy person (bypassing the 23-day-rule using the rules involving diseases). Therefore he cannot die before then, making sure that other competitors cannot kill him, and also that they will all die within the year, since if they didn't he would die at the end of they year. All the other details were counters to attacks trying to kill him before he finished establishing his pseudo-immortality for the year. Deathnote guys becomes god. A death note does not provide you assurance of life before the time of death, it only ensures that if you are alive up to that moment, you will die as specified at that time. Additionally, you did not bypass the 23 day rule, since the death is what must be specified, and cannot be specified more than 23 days ahead of time... so in any case, one would not be able to use the ability to have someone die slowly of cancer or some illness that would take longer than 23 days. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On October 03 2012 11:06 epicanthic wrote: Guy four finds the guy with the death note, kills him, takes the notebook, and wins because he'll know the other people's names and their faces through his omniscience. Easy. A simple plan to win the game as omni is to: Day 1: Asks 'where is death note guy' (assuming they all know each other's powers) then he proceeds to kill the death note guy. Day 2: With the death note in his hands, he asks ' tell me where i can find a picture of all 3 others' then he proceeds to exchange half his lifespan for death gods eyes (for anyone who didnt know, getting a death god's eyes means that he can see the persons name and lifespan by simply seeing their face) Omni kills everyone by day 2. However, should omni not know anything, he will just need to ask the following questions: 'Are there anyone else given special powers like me' 'What are their powers' 'What does power X does' It still leads to the same conclusion, except it would probably take 8 days more than usual. | ||
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antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
On October 03 2012 11:51 HaruRH wrote: A simple plan to win the game as omni is to: Day 1: Asks 'where is death note guy' (assuming they all know each other's powers) then he proceeds to kill the death note guy. Day 2: With the death note in his hands, he asks ' tell me where i can find a picture of all 3 others' then he proceeds to exchange half his lifespan for death gods eyes (for anyone who didnt know, getting a death god's eyes means that he can see the persons name and lifespan by simply seeing their face) Omni kills everyone by day 2. This plan falls for GDH though. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On October 03 2012 11:44 Sephiren wrote: Omniscient guy asks, "what do I do to win this game?" Finds out. Follows protocol. Wins. No free will. A death note does not provide you assurance of life before the time of death, it only ensures that if you are alive up to that moment, you will die as specified at that time. Additionally, you did not bypass the 23 day rule, since the death is what must be specified, and cannot be specified more than 23 days ahead of time... so in any case, one would not be able to use the ability to have someone die slowly of cancer or some illness that would take longer than 23 days. First of all about the 23-day-rule How to Use: XXVIII If you write, “die of disease” like before with a specific disease’s name, but without a specific time, if it takes more than 24 days for the human to die the 23-day rule will not take effect and the human will die at an adequate time depending on the disease. These are the official death note rules. For the assurance of life before time of death, the rules aren't entirely clear. In the second film L stops himself from being killed using the death note by writing his name in it beforehand. It really depends on the Deathnote guy's original lifespan, since How to Use: LVI In the Death Note, you cannot set the death date longer than the victim’s original life span. Even if the victim’s death is set in the Death Note beyond his/her original life span, the victim will die before the set time. This really could be interpreted either way... | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
Problem is, everyone dies on the 2nd day should it goes to plan, and ghg will only get to recall how he died on the second day, nothing more. Unless, within those bazillions of retries he had, he managed to kill either the omni guy or dn guy, otherwise he still dies continuously on the second day of world reset. | ||
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
So I've seen a few other people say it before, as have I; Can't omni guy figure out where the death note is and use that to kill the other guys. That seems to be the best strategy so far I think. Ground Hog guy still confuses me a bit so won't say too much on him. Also lol at the crazy other strats I've seen. GHG hiding in a hole for the last 3 days haha. Also are the death god eyes allowed? I had a feeling that they weren't, just the Death Note itself. I'm gonna say shinigami eyes not allowed. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On October 03 2012 11:40 antilyon wrote: Where's the clause saying the only way for a guy die after his name is wrote on DN is by DN's power? I'm pretty sure Raito would have written his name before Ryuk if he had the chance of doing it. Your point is invalid. If you've read the manga, or seen the anime Raito never had the opportunity to write his own name in the Death Note after Ryuk announced that he would kill Raito. Also, Raito wanted to rule as God to a world free of evil people for as long as possible, and would not shorten his lifespan for anything | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On October 03 2012 12:03 Epishade wrote: Argh this new Death Note immortality crap needs to go. No crazy loopholes to cheat the scenario. So I've seen a few other people say it before, as have I; Can't omni guy figure out where the death note is and use that to kill the other guys. That seems to be the best strategy so far I think. Ground Hog guy still confuses me a bit so won't say too much on him. Also lol at the crazy other strats I've seen. GHG hiding in a hole for the last 3 days haha. Also are the death god eyes allowed? I had a feeling that they weren't, just the Death Note itself. I'm gonna say shinigami eyes not allowed. Its part of death note itself, so technically it is allowed. So is the floating death god beside him  | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
Because that makes him the most vulnerable of them all, giving anyone who finds him 2 supwerpowers and assuring victory. | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
I still go with the omni guy who will win if he hasn't revealed his ID throughout the past year of preparation through bragging around how rich he is. Although DN could be a hard nut to crack through mindcontroling a ton of people. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
But deathnote could put his name in the book to die within 24 days and then keep erasing his name every day. Then omniscient guy can capture deathnote guy, and lock him in a basement, and make sure he dies however he wrote his method of dying a few days later assuming he can't use the book(orgy from a list of celebrities). If teleportation guy or freeze time guy or groundhog guy could somehow figure out a way to kill everyone in the civilized world within a few days, then they might be able to win. I don't see it happening though. | ||
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xNSwarm
155 Posts
On October 03 2012 11:51 HaruRH wrote: A simple plan to win the game as omni is to: Day 1: Asks 'where is death note guy' (assuming they all know each other's powers) then he proceeds to kill the death note guy. Day 2: With the death note in his hands, he asks ' tell me where i can find a picture of all 3 others' then he proceeds to exchange half his lifespan for death gods eyes (for anyone who didnt know, getting a death god's eyes means that he can see the persons name and lifespan by simply seeing their face) Omni kills everyone by day 2. However, should omni not know anything, he will just need to ask the following questions: 'Are there anyone else given special powers like me' 'What are their powers' 'What does power X does' It still leads to the same conclusion, except it would probably take 8 days more than usual. Player #4 has to be way more careful then that. It wouldn't be quite that simple. First of all, just knowing where DN is located doesn't mean you can just waltz over to his country and kill him. DN realizes that #4 and 5 are his primary threats and he will surely be on the look out. DN can easily prolong your arrival by at least a week, and you will need at least 5 questions answered anyway to be able to kill him without a large threat of being killed yourself. If you choose to take this route and completely ignore #5, you will now have to deal with someone who has essentially performed almost the perfect actions for the first 3 days. This would potentially include allying with DN and setting up your death to occur within 5 minutes of the start of day one. This is assuming that #4 acts quickly and "kills DN" during #5's timeloop, thereby leaving a track for #5 to follow regarding his identity, which #5 can then use to have DN kill #4 before #4 even has a chance to ask one question. tl dr: There is no simple way for omni to win that quickly. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On October 03 2012 12:31 obesechicken13 wrote: Omniscient guy can find the rest. I'd say he'd win. But deathnote could put his name in the book to die within 24 days and then keep erasing his name every day. Then omniscient guy can capture deathnote guy, and lock him in a basement, and make sure he dies however he wrote his method of dying a few days later assuming he can't use the book(orgy from a list of celebrities). If teleportation guy or freeze time guy or groundhog guy could somehow figure out a way to kill everyone in the civilized world within a few days, then they might be able to win. I don't see it happening though. Erasing the name doesn't allow you to live. | ||
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