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On October 03 2012 10:13 Mataza wrote:It is not stated if they know about the powers of the 4 other guys. Reading some answers we assume they all know roughly about each others powers, it seems. Let´s go with that. Time freeze boy and teleport lad would need to have more information than the others as their powers are imho weaker than the powers of the other dudes. They have powers that make them more obvious, while the others are more or less undetectable except by silhouette(if just one of the 5 people looks kinda generic...). Death note dude having more information about the others would break the scenario as just having their names could lead to their pictures via the internet and hence instant victory. The omniscient voice man can practically ask "How can I get full information on XY" everyday after he dealt with groundhogday guy. Groundhogday guy has imho the best chances as 3 days is plenty of time with a fully planned time schedule to get the means and kill 4 motherfuckers. He is like time freeze boy on steroids. If you ask me, GHD guy could maybe mindgame omniscient voice man by waiting several days before activating his powers. If omniscient voice man asks about what happened furing GHD guys cycle at the wrong time, which can be any damn day of the whole year, he is basically just as much a victim as everyone of the other people. + Show Spoiler +scratch that, forgot omniscient voice man can´t repeat questions.
OV man would need to ask "What did I learn last GHD cycle?" at least once every 3 days. If he happens to mistime it to the 3rd day of the GHD cycle, he is basically fucked. If he asks it on the 2nd day, he has a one new question answered each cycle.
The only safe method for omniscient voice man to win is to ask "What did I learn last GHD cycle" every single day. If he gets lazy at any point, i.e. feeling stupid after a week of asking the same question over and over, he will probably lose to GHD guy.
not really probable as it would be quite unlikely to miss the one day of a whole year where ghd guy is on day 1 of the cycle if he asks every other day 
if GHD relies on omi guy being careful he calculates how many questions (so how many days) omni guy would need to kill everyone because that is the point where he has to stop asking "what did i learn in the previous cyle" if he wants a chance to win
when he knows that he times it just right so he won't be caught by omni guy and kills everyone in the last couple of days
ghd should win if omni guy "plays safe" (acts predictable)
if he does just randomly choose when to ask for the cycles or tries to kill ghd guy rightaway it is based on luck
the others have no real chance of winning as they would not be able to find omni guy in just a year because he basically leaves no traces if he doesn't want to
ghd guy would meet him at some point when they try to kill each other
also as long as he doesn't activate the cycle only omni guy could track him so the others have no chance of killing everyone tbh
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On October 03 2012 09:48 B1nary wrote:
Honestly, I think it's better to change the rules so that Omniscient guy can't ask about the future at all (not even 24h). He can ask where the others are at the moment but he can't ask where they'll be a day from now. Otherwise it gets too hairy with questions like "how do I kill this guy within the next 24 hours?"
why not?
He will get the answer on how to literally kill that person, but he will not get both time and location for the correct murder.
Since he can never get answers to all three problems (location, time and method) at the same time there is a huge chance he will not succeed.
As in, he asks on how to kill guy X without any risk, and he will get the response "blow him up". He does not know where to place the charge, nor when to detonate it.
Or for example he gets the answer that the perfect crime would be to use an air strike to wipe out the teleportation guy, but what if he strikes at the wrong moment and the teleportation guy is already gone?
People expect him to get the perfect master plan with one plain question, but this should never be possible with straight answers. One question, one answer. No "how to auto-win"-plan in one question possible.
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On October 03 2012 10:23 rpgalon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 10:17 Antylamon wrote:
The omniscient guy is completely overpowered. Nerf to nothing in the future.
He could just ask how to kill the Death Note guy, then ask who the other people are. He could spend questions asking what they look like, too. He can kill everyone in a minimum of a week. it's because people are thinking that if you ask, the voice will say an elaborate number of movements that leads to victory, but from what I know, if you ask "how to kill the Death Note guy?" the voice can say something like: you stab his heart or you shoot him. also people are trying to put like 2-3 questions in only one sentence. the Omni guy has to be very specific on what he wants to know, otherwise he loses a day....
Yeah, I realize that. I was thinking more along the lines of "Where will the Death Note guy be in 24 hours" rather than simply "How do I kill him?"
From there, he can just travel by plane and shoot/stab him from behind 24 hours later.
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On October 03 2012 09:48 Ikidomari wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 09:39 B1nary wrote:
After the 24h nerf, I think Omniscient guy has to ask "what did I learn during the last cycle" every other day.
GHG can choose when to start the loop. Suppose that GHG starts the loop on the first day and Omniscient guy asks some other question like "where is so-and-so", because everything resets after 3 days, we can assume that Omniscient guy will behave the same way during the second cycle (he'll ask "where is so-and-so" on the first day). The only way Omniscient guy can adapt and behave differently is if he asks what he learned during the previous cycle. Suppose now he asks "what did I learn last cycle" on the second day of the loop, he's fine because he still has 1 day left to ask something new to add to his knowledge for the next cycle. If he asks that on the third day, he'll find out that the loop has been activated but he can't really do anything about it since it'll reset before he can ask another question. So, he has to ask the question every other day, just to be safe. this is extremely important. if Omni finds out what he learned last cycle, that means both himself AND groundhog day can make changes, and do things they otherwise would not do. so if GHG learned "Player X will always be at location Y at time Z", omniscient guy can essentially mess him up, cause that scenario to not happen, and make GHG's time MUCH much harder.
Yeah I was just about to say this. In fact, GHG wins by being OP if the cycle resets immediately when he dies. If not Omni wins.
The reason is that Omni has the potential for winning in just a few questions provided he asks the perfect questions which we might not think of at the moment. Once he learns the others powers, he will understand that every two days he must ask what he learned from the past loops or he will risk falling into the loops of GHG and have no realistic way of winning or gaining knowledge because he would be stuck in 100 years of a 3 day loop. Omni is helped greatly by GHG's loops if Omni is smart enough to learn these facts immediately as he gets as much knowledge as he wants and can eventually pull off a 3 day plan to win or something similar. Essentially GHG has a much harder time if he doesn't understand Omni's power immediately. GHG also is at a disadvantage in planning due to him having to manually find information, although this is somewhat offset by Omni losing more days because he must play it safe with his questions to not get stuck in the loop.
If the cycle of loops started by GHG reset immediately if he dies, no one can defeat him given any intelligence or random luck. It would mean that GHG can immediately start the loop and kill himself at the end of day 1 each time, landing even Omni in a state of constant limbo where they never progress in their plans such that GHG's power of planning is grossly higher than everyone else. Of course this just opens up the variability if it is possible because it would simply be up to how fast GHG can learn of this ability before someone stops him.
On October 03 2012 09:51 travis wrote:GHD guy could be beaten easily if they counteract him with randomness. but what kind of random number generator they could actually use that would give different results im not sure. but if they were able to use a random number generator then they could move to different locations based on the randomness Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 09:49 Ikidomari wrote:On October 03 2012 09:48 B1nary wrote:
Honestly, I think it's better to change the rules so that Omniscient guy can't ask about the future at all (not even 24h). He can ask where the others are at the moment but he can't ask where they'll be a day from now. Otherwise it gets too hairy with questions like "how do I kill this guy within the next 24 hours?" will consider this nerf, depending on what other people have to say in response. agreed!
For the first part of travis's quote, I don't think it would matter at all. Realistically all the inevitability and random things that happen in the 3 day loop that GHG starts would happen every single time without fail unless he was a variable to their change or Omni had the knowledge to also affect things. Everyone and everything else would have no chance to act differently at all until either GHG or Omni affected them inside the loop.
For the proposition on future information for Omni I would expect simple questions to come back with overly simple results. Like find transportation and then shoot him. So even if he could ask about slight future events he would need to be very specific to get his intended result.
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On October 03 2012 10:25 BrokenMirage wrote:
If DeathNote guy is incredibly quick witted, has an encyclopedic knowledge of stuff, and has nerves of steel, he can guarantee himself a victory using this plan.
As soon as he comes out of the dream, he instantly writes in his Death Note his own name and as cause of death a disease that has an incubation period of over a year (note : for those who haven't read the manga or seen the anime, diseases do not obey the 23 day rule, and make the person die at an adequate time according to the disease). As he must die of this disease, and dying before the end of the year is impossible, he is guaranteed to live more than one year. After this he needs to destroy the death note (I'll explain why later).
Therefore, it is impossible for him to die under any circumstances before the end of the time period for the disease. The other competitors absolutely cannot kill him in anyway, and he cannot die at the end of the year, meaning that all the other competitors must therefore die within the year.
If he acts fast enough, Ground Hog guy, and Omniscient guy (who both can gain knowledge of this using their powers) cannot possibly phone Teleport guy fast enough at the start of a new cycle, to get him to kill Deathnote guy before he writes this down. Also if Deathnote guy destroys the death note fast enough, teleport guy won't get there in time to modify the conditions of death in the death note (if it wasn't destroyed, and teleport guy got there within 6 min and 40 s, teleport guy could modify the conditions of death and make them impossible, thereby causing Deathnote guy to die at the end of the 6 min and 40 s).
At that point, Deathnote guy is assured of victory, and he can just chill for the rest of the year, knowing that all the others will die. He will then die of the disease at the prescribed amount of time, and the Deus Ex Machina will turn him into a God.
That's how Deathnote guy can guarantee himself a victory.
no, he dies 23 days later from a heart attack.
I also think DN will win, but that is because he can mind-control anyone for 23 days by writing something like:
XXXXX will obey every order I give to him, until he dies by a heart attack 23 days later.
the DN guy can get a lot of people to help protect him and help track down the others.
also, the hints that everyone left from the year before the Dream, will allow every one of competitors to eventually discover who you need to kill, but it does not help tracking down where your target is now (after the dream), the DN guy only need to know who he needs to kill, he does not need to know where they are.
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On October 03 2012 10:25 BrokenMirage wrote:
If DeathNote guy is incredibly quick witted, has an encyclopedic knowledge of stuff, and has nerves of steel, he can guarantee himself a victory using this plan.
As soon as he comes out of the dream, he instantly writes in his Death Note his own name and as cause of death a disease that has an incubation period of over a year (note : for those who haven't read the manga or seen the anime, diseases do not obey the 23 day rule, and make the person die at an adequate time according to the disease). As he must die of this disease, and dying before the end of the year is impossible, he is guaranteed to live more than one year. After this he needs to destroy the death note (I'll explain why later).
Therefore, it is impossible for him to die under any circumstances before the end of the time period for the disease. The other competitors absolutely cannot kill him in anyway, and he cannot die at the end of the year, meaning that all the other competitors must therefore die within the year.
If he acts fast enough, Ground Hog guy, and Omniscient guy (who both can gain knowledge of this using their powers) cannot possibly phone Teleport guy fast enough at the start of a new cycle, to get him to kill Deathnote guy before he writes this down. Also if Deathnote guy destroys the death note fast enough, teleport guy won't get there in time to modify the conditions of death in the death note (if it wasn't destroyed, and teleport guy got there within 6 min and 40 s, teleport guy could modify the conditions of death and make them impossible, thereby causing Deathnote guy to die at the end of the 6 min and 40 s).
At that point, Deathnote guy is assured of victory, and he can just chill for the rest of the year, knowing that all the others will die. He will then die of the disease at the prescribed amount of time, and the Deus Ex Machina will turn him into a God.
That's how Deathnote guy can guarantee himself a victory.
well that doesn't work because "If their name is written, and the cause of death cannot be met, they will die of a heart attack."
if he can't die at the end of the year this means the circumstances of the death can not be met so he will die from a heart attack
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Can DN guy write a name twice? If he writes "DN Guy 5 days from now" on Page 113, then writes "DN Guy 4 days from now" on the first page, what happens? First thing he writes takes precedence?
He can use GHDG vs Omni Guy's Day 1 mind games to his advantage. This may hinge on whether or not GHDG can survive long enough to contact DN Guy. DN guy's strategy can be really risky and rely on GDHG making contact Day 1. He can use the DN to manipulate his own death, as well as the deaths of GDHG/Omni outside of their range of power. Against Omni, he'll have to kill him 24 hours + 1 second and there's nothing Omni can do about it, since his power doesn't see that far ahead. Against GHDG, he'll have to kill him 3-4 days after he activates his power (Day 4 if he assumes Day 1 activation)
If GHDG can find Omni's identity and make contact with DN in 12k tries (doesn't have to do both in one shot, can find Omni guy, die, then on the next life contact DN), then DN wins.
My risky DN strategy would be as follows:
- Write my own name in a random middle page of the DN to kill myself 23 days from now.
- If GHDG contacts me, automatically assume he knows Omni's identity, as well as the time loop power being in effect
- Make a deal with GHDG that kills Omni, DN and GHDG via deathnote, with GHDG being the last one alive. Make sure GHDG gives you proper info on how to contact Omni
- Write my own name Day 4, and Omni's name Day 4 + 1 s (assuming the 23 day note takes precedence). This makes GHDG feel pretty safe as that means he's guaranteed to atleast tie me, and Omni has a 1s window to kill GHDG
- Contact Omni to find GHDG's identity. Show him the DN and show him that if GHDG dies then Omni wins (since I die 1s before him).
- Omni's Day 2 question will be burned on finding GHDG's identity. GHDG dies on Day 4
Result:
Day 1: Tele+Time Freeze dead
Day 4: GHDG dead
Day 4 1 s later: Omni dead
Day 4 2s later: DN becomes God and no longer has to die on Day 23
This strategy hinges on the DN's power having better range than Omni/GDHG. Omni lasts 1 day. GDHG lasts 3 days. DN lasts 23 days. It also hinges on Omni being unable to guarantee a Day 1 kill on GDHG
If Omni conceals himself too well, or does a Day 1 kill on GDHG, I just killed myself for no reason, but I see no better shot at winning. If Omni gets 23 days of intel I'm doomed anyway
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On October 03 2012 10:37 rpgalon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 10:25 BrokenMirage wrote:
If DeathNote guy is incredibly quick witted, has an encyclopedic knowledge of stuff, and has nerves of steel, he can guarantee himself a victory using this plan.
As soon as he comes out of the dream, he instantly writes in his Death Note his own name and as cause of death a disease that has an incubation period of over a year (note : for those who haven't read the manga or seen the anime, diseases do not obey the 23 day rule, and make the person die at an adequate time according to the disease). As he must die of this disease, and dying before the end of the year is impossible, he is guaranteed to live more than one year. After this he needs to destroy the death note (I'll explain why later).
Therefore, it is impossible for him to die under any circumstances before the end of the time period for the disease. The other competitors absolutely cannot kill him in anyway, and he cannot die at the end of the year, meaning that all the other competitors must therefore die within the year.
If he acts fast enough, Ground Hog guy, and Omniscient guy (who both can gain knowledge of this using their powers) cannot possibly phone Teleport guy fast enough at the start of a new cycle, to get him to kill Deathnote guy before he writes this down. Also if Deathnote guy destroys the death note fast enough, teleport guy won't get there in time to modify the conditions of death in the death note (if it wasn't destroyed, and teleport guy got there within 6 min and 40 s, teleport guy could modify the conditions of death and make them impossible, thereby causing Deathnote guy to die at the end of the 6 min and 40 s).
At that point, Deathnote guy is assured of victory, and he can just chill for the rest of the year, knowing that all the others will die. He will then die of the disease at the prescribed amount of time, and the Deus Ex Machina will turn him into a God.
That's how Deathnote guy can guarantee himself a victory. no, he dies 23 days later from a heart attack. I also think DN will win, but that is because he can mind-control anyone for 23 days by writing something like: XXXXX will obey every order I give to him, until he dies by a heart attack 23 days later. the DN guy can get a lot of people to help protect him and help track down the others. also, the hints that everyone left from the year before the Dream, will allow every one of competitors to eventually discover who you need to kill, but it does not help tracking down where your target is now (after the dream), the DN guy only need to know who he needs to kill, he does not need to know where they are.
Read the Death Note Rules-
How to Use: XXVIII
If you write, “die of disease” like before with a specific disease’s name, but without a specific time, if it takes more than 24 days for the human to die the 23-day rule will not take effect and the human will die at an adequate time depending on the disease.
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On October 03 2012 10:13 Mataza wrote:It is not stated if they know about the powers of the 4 other guys. Reading some answers we assume they all know roughly about each others powers, it seems. Let´s go with that. Time freeze boy and teleport lad would need to have more information than the others as their powers are imho weaker than the powers of the other dudes. They have powers that make them more obvious, while the others are more or less undetectable except by silhouette(if just one of the 5 people looks kinda generic...). Death note dude having more information about the others would break the scenario as just having their names could lead to their pictures via the internet and hence instant victory. The omniscient voice man can practically ask "How can I get full information on XY" everyday after he dealt with groundhogday guy. Groundhogday guy has imho the best chances as 3 days is plenty of time with a fully planned time schedule to get the means and kill 4 motherfuckers. He is like time freeze boy on steroids. If you ask me, GHD guy could maybe mindgame omniscient voice man by waiting several days before activating his powers. If omniscient voice man asks about what happened furing GHD guys cycle at the wrong time, which can be any damn day of the whole year, he is basically just as much a victim as everyone of the other people. + Show Spoiler +scratch that, forgot omniscient voice man can´t repeat questions.
OV man would need to ask "What did I learn last GHD cycle?" at least once every 3 days. If he happens to mistime it to the 3rd day of the GHD cycle, he is basically fucked. If he asks it on the 2nd day, he has a one new question answered each cycle.
The only safe method for omniscient voice man to win is to ask "What did I learn last GHD cycle" every single day. If he gets lazy at any point, i.e. feeling stupid after a week of asking the same question over and over, he will probably lose to GHD guy.
Jesus u gotta start reading the OP bro, i didn't read all the crap u said since ur first paragraph is straight wrong.
Imo, alot of us are forgetting they have 1 year (probably without any knowledge that they have to kill each other) so within that year, alot of them would be incredibly wealthy, so these wealthy suggestions are abit void, GHD guy might be abit poor, since his power wont help him in that first year to get wealthy.
Love reading all of ur responses.
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I cannot see the guy freezing time losing, just not possible.
Also I'm amazing this random thread has gotten to 17 pages but...well...I guess it's general, and it's a discussion so 
But really, the person could just freeze time and ezmode, probably. Never mind this discussion is way too intense for me lol, and I suppose he'd have to find the other guys, so yeah. Edit: also if you read the Death Note rules, the user can only shorten, not prolong his life, so if he otherwise were to get killed before the disease would take effect, he would be prolonging his life by writing that in. This whole scenario is just a mess >_>
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On October 03 2012 10:37 sVnteen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 10:25 BrokenMirage wrote:
If DeathNote guy is incredibly quick witted, has an encyclopedic knowledge of stuff, and has nerves of steel, he can guarantee himself a victory using this plan.
As soon as he comes out of the dream, he instantly writes in his Death Note his own name and as cause of death a disease that has an incubation period of over a year (note : for those who haven't read the manga or seen the anime, diseases do not obey the 23 day rule, and make the person die at an adequate time according to the disease). As he must die of this disease, and dying before the end of the year is impossible, he is guaranteed to live more than one year. After this he needs to destroy the death note (I'll explain why later).
Therefore, it is impossible for him to die under any circumstances before the end of the time period for the disease. The other competitors absolutely cannot kill him in anyway, and he cannot die at the end of the year, meaning that all the other competitors must therefore die within the year.
If he acts fast enough, Ground Hog guy, and Omniscient guy (who both can gain knowledge of this using their powers) cannot possibly phone Teleport guy fast enough at the start of a new cycle, to get him to kill Deathnote guy before he writes this down. Also if Deathnote guy destroys the death note fast enough, teleport guy won't get there in time to modify the conditions of death in the death note (if it wasn't destroyed, and teleport guy got there within 6 min and 40 s, teleport guy could modify the conditions of death and make them impossible, thereby causing Deathnote guy to die at the end of the 6 min and 40 s).
At that point, Deathnote guy is assured of victory, and he can just chill for the rest of the year, knowing that all the others will die. He will then die of the disease at the prescribed amount of time, and the Deus Ex Machina will turn him into a God.
That's how Deathnote guy can guarantee himself a victory. well that doesn't work because "If their name is written, and the cause of death cannot be met, they will die of a heart attack." if he can't die at the end of the year this means the circumstances of the death can not be met so he will die from a heart attack
The circumstances could technically be met providing that all the other people died before the end of the year. Meaning, that if all the aforementionned things happened, he could die in the way defined. I understand that it could backfire horribly, and he would simply die from a heart attack. That's probably why I put nerves of steel in the requirements.
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On October 03 2012 10:46 Aerisky wrote:I cannot see the guy freezing time losing, just not possible. Also I'm amazing this random thread has gotten to 17 pages but...well...I guess it's general, and it's a discussion so But really, the person could just freeze time and ezmode, probably. Never mind this discussion is way too intense for me lol, and I suppose he'd have to find the other guys, so yeah.
Dude time freeze is the worst power. You freeze time with a 5 hour limit and... What? Run up and kill all your competitors? You don't know who they are, have no way of traveling except by foot and teleport guy could be on the International space station.
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On October 03 2012 10:42 BrokenMirage wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 10:37 rpgalon wrote:On October 03 2012 10:25 BrokenMirage wrote:
If DeathNote guy is incredibly quick witted, has an encyclopedic knowledge of stuff, and has nerves of steel, he can guarantee himself a victory using this plan.
As soon as he comes out of the dream, he instantly writes in his Death Note his own name and as cause of death a disease that has an incubation period of over a year (note : for those who haven't read the manga or seen the anime, diseases do not obey the 23 day rule, and make the person die at an adequate time according to the disease). As he must die of this disease, and dying before the end of the year is impossible, he is guaranteed to live more than one year. After this he needs to destroy the death note (I'll explain why later).
Therefore, it is impossible for him to die under any circumstances before the end of the time period for the disease. The other competitors absolutely cannot kill him in anyway, and he cannot die at the end of the year, meaning that all the other competitors must therefore die within the year.
If he acts fast enough, Ground Hog guy, and Omniscient guy (who both can gain knowledge of this using their powers) cannot possibly phone Teleport guy fast enough at the start of a new cycle, to get him to kill Deathnote guy before he writes this down. Also if Deathnote guy destroys the death note fast enough, teleport guy won't get there in time to modify the conditions of death in the death note (if it wasn't destroyed, and teleport guy got there within 6 min and 40 s, teleport guy could modify the conditions of death and make them impossible, thereby causing Deathnote guy to die at the end of the 6 min and 40 s).
At that point, Deathnote guy is assured of victory, and he can just chill for the rest of the year, knowing that all the others will die. He will then die of the disease at the prescribed amount of time, and the Deus Ex Machina will turn him into a God.
That's how Deathnote guy can guarantee himself a victory. no, he dies 23 days later from a heart attack. I also think DN will win, but that is because he can mind-control anyone for 23 days by writing something like: XXXXX will obey every order I give to him, until he dies by a heart attack 23 days later. the DN guy can get a lot of people to help protect him and help track down the others. also, the hints that everyone left from the year before the Dream, will allow every one of competitors to eventually discover who you need to kill, but it does not help tracking down where your target is now (after the dream), the DN guy only need to know who he needs to kill, he does not need to know where they are. Read the Death Note Rules- Show nested quote +How to Use: XXVIII
If you write, “die of disease” like before with a specific disease’s name, but without a specific time, if it takes more than 24 days for the human to die the 23-day rule will not take effect and the human will die at an adequate time depending on the disease.
he does not become immortal if you write die of disease, so he can still die from any competitor,
also, after 1 year, NO ONE wins, so he does not become a god since he didn't kill anyone before one year and so, dies anyway to the time limit.
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On October 03 2012 10:54 rpgalon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 10:42 BrokenMirage wrote:On October 03 2012 10:37 rpgalon wrote:On October 03 2012 10:25 BrokenMirage wrote:
If DeathNote guy is incredibly quick witted, has an encyclopedic knowledge of stuff, and has nerves of steel, he can guarantee himself a victory using this plan.
As soon as he comes out of the dream, he instantly writes in his Death Note his own name and as cause of death a disease that has an incubation period of over a year (note : for those who haven't read the manga or seen the anime, diseases do not obey the 23 day rule, and make the person die at an adequate time according to the disease). As he must die of this disease, and dying before the end of the year is impossible, he is guaranteed to live more than one year. After this he needs to destroy the death note (I'll explain why later).
Therefore, it is impossible for him to die under any circumstances before the end of the time period for the disease. The other competitors absolutely cannot kill him in anyway, and he cannot die at the end of the year, meaning that all the other competitors must therefore die within the year.
If he acts fast enough, Ground Hog guy, and Omniscient guy (who both can gain knowledge of this using their powers) cannot possibly phone Teleport guy fast enough at the start of a new cycle, to get him to kill Deathnote guy before he writes this down. Also if Deathnote guy destroys the death note fast enough, teleport guy won't get there in time to modify the conditions of death in the death note (if it wasn't destroyed, and teleport guy got there within 6 min and 40 s, teleport guy could modify the conditions of death and make them impossible, thereby causing Deathnote guy to die at the end of the 6 min and 40 s).
At that point, Deathnote guy is assured of victory, and he can just chill for the rest of the year, knowing that all the others will die. He will then die of the disease at the prescribed amount of time, and the Deus Ex Machina will turn him into a God.
That's how Deathnote guy can guarantee himself a victory. no, he dies 23 days later from a heart attack. I also think DN will win, but that is because he can mind-control anyone for 23 days by writing something like: XXXXX will obey every order I give to him, until he dies by a heart attack 23 days later. the DN guy can get a lot of people to help protect him and help track down the others. also, the hints that everyone left from the year before the Dream, will allow every one of competitors to eventually discover who you need to kill, but it does not help tracking down where your target is now (after the dream), the DN guy only need to know who he needs to kill, he does not need to know where they are. Read the Death Note Rules- How to Use: XXVIII
If you write, “die of disease” like before with a specific disease’s name, but without a specific time, if it takes more than 24 days for the human to die the 23-day rule will not take effect and the human will die at an adequate time depending on the disease. he does not become immortal if you write die of disease, so he can still die from any competitor, also, after 1 year, NO ONE wins, so he does not become a god since he didn't kill anyone before one year and so, dies anyway from the disease.
Once your death is written in the death note, you will die in such a way, unless your conditions of death violate some other rules of the death note in which case you will die of a heart attack. Also, the other competitors will die within the year, since if they did not, he couldn't possibly survive past the end of the year.
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Guy four finds the guy with the death note, kills him, takes the notebook, and wins because he'll know the other people's names and their faces through his omniscience. Easy.
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On October 03 2012 11:06 epicanthic wrote:
Guy four finds the guy with the death note, kills him, takes the notebook, and wins because he'll know the other people's names and their faces through his omniscience. Easy.
Wow, you just solved 17 pages of discussion on 2 lines. It's over here, this one was tough right guys?
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I must have missed the part where DN dude makes someone immortal to alternate ways of killing.
That´s straight out of the anime, right?
It would be awesome if the full Death Note ruleset can be added to the OP, especially if it makes people immortal.
Because if he can do that, he can brute force a tie, making him the only possible winner.
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On October 03 2012 11:10 antilyon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2012 11:06 epicanthic wrote:
Guy four finds the guy with the death note, kills him, takes the notebook, and wins because he'll know the other people's names and their faces through his omniscience. Easy. Wow, you just solved 17 pages of discussion on 2 lines. It's over here, this one was tough right guys?
Problem is 1 year test period and powers being given to "random" people.
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His first question NEEDS to be "What are their powers?".
It's given that they all know the other participants' powers.
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We can pretty much assume groundhog guy can identify every other opponent and has an insane amount of knowledge about how this all works. He can spend 20 years worth of time getting intel and planning alone, and only have used 20% of his "time". Realistically he can burn at least a few resets without anyone winning and ending the cycle.
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EPT
