EPTi am assuming a high level net worth for the death note guy which may be inappropriate but i didn't see anywhere which defined how much money they would have at the start. If he doesn't have this security system then there is no way death note man will win unfortunately
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doner0
United States233 Posts
i am assuming a high level net worth for the death note guy which may be inappropriate but i didn't see anywhere which defined how much money they would have at the start. If he doesn't have this security system then there is no way death note man will win unfortunately | ||
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17Sphynx17
580 Posts
but for discussions sake: I would say a combo would work best here in this scenario. If I were the teleport guy and I knew the existence of the omniscient being, I could theoretically seek his assistance. Given the geographical distances between all 5, the teleporter has the quickest access to any 1 of the remaining 4 beings everyday. So I think he would maximize the potential of that power to seek out and ally himself with the omniscient one. Once the "treaty" has been established, the next target is the death note guy to obtain the book from him. Teleport guy could just teleport and kill him on the spot (theoretically) for that day and return home the same day. With the death note, the remaining two people could be eliminated with ease by just writing their name with the information from the omniscient, 1 a day basically. How to close out the remaining 1 v 1 is through the treaty, basicaly the agreement I would theoretically establish is that since one of us is to become "god" (omnipotent), then once he becomes god he can just bring back his ally with no changes and/or consequence. Also, the reason I raised a question for guy 5 is that since he chooses when the 3 day loop starts, this means there should be an active chance to choose. If he is unable to decide then and there to activate the groundhog loop, it basically puts him out of the contest. However, if his power continously allows him to set groundhog day loops the moment another ends, then he will obviously be the winner here. The 5 hours a week freeze guy is a little tricky. Because, I think, since you are outside the frozen time, everything else theoretically can not react with each other. As such, you can not construct, build/weld. You may be able to place particles but that wasn't specified as part of your innate ability. As such, you may need to rely on machines to do so. With the time frozen, you would be unable to use motors as they don't move. The power did not specify that objects you interact with are unfrozen. So I believe it stands to reason at least that interactions between other objects are impossible during the time freeze. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
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shizzz
Australia127 Posts
They've all had a year to test their abilities without knowing why, so there could be some obvious tells which would lead to them being found. The unstealable is stolen from a bank in Switzerland? A string of highly suspicious deaths in England? 100mil is won in the US? (providing this follows the guidelines the OP set in not drawing huge attention to themselves [or is it attention towards their powers as people win the lotto all the time?]). After the dream however, all know they are in danger and have the ability or possibly the resources to disappear which could mean the clues left are now void. My train of thought from what i've read is if Omni is unable to track down DN, the only outcome seems to be that the year will run out with more than 1 alive and there is no winner. | ||
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pOnarreT
155 Posts
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CroN
United States22 Posts
day 2 - Omni guy asks how to avoid/remain out of contact from all who threaten him today. day 3 - Omni guy asks how to survive in his present state (free and healthy) for 24 hours/today. GHG power runs out. He's now a regular human being for the remainder of the year. day 4 - Omni guy works on obtaining the death note. day 5 - Omni guy writes everyone's name in the death note. - GHG can only kill Omni guy on day 1. That's roughly 30-35 years of time for GHG to find a random silhouette of a person he's seen in a dream. Keep in mind that those 30-35 years is just a single day being repeated. This means that all contacts and friends he makes in day 1 will no longer trust him when time resets. He has to regain everyone's trust everyday in order for them to do what he wants. This means that he has to wake up as a normal person and then find a way to kill a specific person halfway across the world within 24 hours. GHG can't kill Omni guy on days 2 and 3 because Omni guy asked how to avoid GHG today. This means that if Omni guy hides under his bed in day 2, he will no longer be there on the reset of day 2 because every morning he asks an omniscient being how to be undetected that day. If GHG goes to check under the bed the Omni guy is not there anymore. He acts differently during the reset because GHG is acting differently too. The omniscient voice knows the answers. On top of this GHG doesn't even know what Omni guy's power is. Even if he finds Omni guy on day 3 then Omni guy won't be killed by him, it could even be possible that they fight and Omni guy kills GHG on day 3. The death note won't work on Omni guy on days 2 and 3 also. It's possible anyone of these people can win this fight but Omni guy is the clear favorite in single handedly taking out the other 4. He's clearly the strongest in this scenario. It will always be situation based. Lock them all in a room and the guy who freezes time now has the strongest power. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
They all know about each others powers. You´re also completely ignoring the possibility of mind games, GHG can easily activate his powers a day later, at which point Omni asks how to obtain the death note according to you. | ||
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CroN
United States22 Posts
On October 06 2012 01:51 Mataza wrote: Poster above me didn´t read the OP They all know about each others powers. You´re also completely ignoring the possibility of mind games, GHG can easily activate his powers a day later, at which point Omni asks how to obtain the death note according to you. I just reread the opening post and it doesn't mention anywhere that they know of each others powers. It says they see silhouettes of each other and see features such as height, build, and gender but nothing of their powers being known. It's also mentioned that the GHG activates his power on day 1. I don't know if it was mentioned somewhere else or if the rules were changed. I think you're right about one thing though. Omni guy would have to find out if GHG used his power. That adds another 35 years for GHG. I guess it's a toss up between those 2. It comes down to how well they prepared in their year of practice before this insanity started. | ||
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Orek
1665 Posts
On October 06 2012 04:54 CroN wrote: I just reread the opening post and it doesn't mention anywhere that they know of each others powers. It says they see silhouettes of each other and see features such as height, build, and gender but nothing of their powers being known. It's also mentioned that the GHG activates his power on day 1. I don't know if it was mentioned somewhere else or if the rules were changed. The thing is that OP guy Ikidomari mentioned that they know each other's powers ONLY IN the top post of the 3rd page of this thread that no new reader visits any more. Therefore, about half of the discussion in this thread, especially latter half of it, is entirely useless because different people are using different rules to reason their opinions. Since no one would reread the entire thread any more and I doubt OP guy would come back, this thread is and should be dead soon. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On October 06 2012 05:02 Orek wrote: The thing is that OP guy Ikidomari mentioned that they know each other's powers ONLY IN the top post of the 3rd page of this thread that no new reader visits any more. Therefore, about half of the discussion in this thread, especially latter half of it, is entirely useless because different people are using different rules to reason their opinions. Since no one would reread the entire thread any more and I doubt OP guy would come back, this thread is and should be dead soon. Actually it increases the lifetime of this thread if not pointed out all the time. If according to your knowledge you´re right and the other one is right according to his own knowledge, you both feel you´re right. Most people don´t step back when they feel they´re right. | ||
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shizzz
Australia127 Posts
Either way, OP did mention omni can only ask one question a day, so he could ask what one persons greatest strength is on day 1, not all 5. Though who is to say that question is going to give you the answer you need? GHG's ability would be pointless if he activated it on day 1, only to find nothing is available to him to work with during those 3 days and so a possible wasted opportunity (which the omni voice would know would happen). If GHG realises this could happen and takes another course of action, maybe his greatest strength would be his intelligence/whatever in doing so, for that 24hr period. But yeah, 3rd page lets us know they all know each others powers anyway. | ||
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PPTouch
99 Posts
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Ikidomari
Australia485 Posts
On October 06 2012 19:56 PPTouch wrote: Through the past pages most people have neglected to realize that the OP has stated that Omni cannot repeat questions. im tossing up whether or not it's worth it to completely rewrite the OP explaining all the rules more clearly, or if the thread's run it's course and it isn't worth it. | ||
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CroN
United States22 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Kira kills L. Near goes after Kira. Kira gets shot and then killed by Ryuk. GHG can't kill time freeze guy because he's locked up in a secure prison. Time runs out and they both die. Ryuk laughs as he takes a bite of an apple in the world of the dead. The End. | ||
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17Sphynx17
580 Posts
On October 06 2012 20:05 Ikidomari wrote: im tossing up whether or not it's worth it to completely rewrite the OP explaining all the rules more clearly, or if the thread's run it's course and it isn't worth it. Well you could since you "started" it. hehe! There are things that are still vague that no one will be able to give you a definite "gameplan" because a lot of things were left out. It does leave for interesting posts like the one about the time freeze guy rearranging particles but that leaves things up in the air like if he could really do that. Given that you are the arbiter of this discussion, it should be ok to clear it up in the OP and just like to the page where they should start over, if that is at all possible (post-edit and clarification). | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
the same with teleport/timefreeze. They could rob banks or they could steal from mobsters. or they are honest and just have fun at the parties. DN obv.could get something done and also: how far is he willing to go. would he kill POTUS or is he more of a "criminalkiller". Would he use his powers to obtain riches? does GHG get some special prep or is he thrown in just by chance? questions, questions, questions. We need a GM. | ||
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