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On September 04 2012 11:30 Zahir wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 10:54 DoubleReed wrote:On September 04 2012 09:45 Zahir wrote:On September 04 2012 09:23 acidfreak wrote:On September 04 2012 08:31 Zahir wrote:On September 04 2012 08:25 cordrann wrote:On September 04 2012 08:06 Zahir wrote:On September 04 2012 07:57 cordrann wrote:
Without a victim there can not be a crime. You can not victimize yourself, by definition you consent to your own actions. All drugs should be legal. Let those too weak to control themselves destroy themselves and remove their inferior genes while decreasing the surplus population. I dislike arguments like these because they ignore reality. The reality is a lot messier. By your logic we should let everyone do whatever they want. Let docs abuse their patients trust and get them hooked. Let dealers sell drugs to kids. Or a person that was injected by a gang or pimp against their will and is now a junkie. When they buy drugs is it because of their inferior genes? You seem to think every addict has it coming and we shouldn't give a damn. You are being illogical. It being legal would completely change the dynamics of how it is acquired. A lot of the negativity and victimization surrounding drugs is in fact created by the fact that it is illegal. By keeping these things illegal we create more profitable markets for criminal elements. 1. That would be a crime by the doctor. 2. I never said it should just be sold on the street like candy. It should be like alcohol obviously. 3. That would be a crime by the gang or pimp. (if its legal there wouldn't be much motive for them to do this in the first place) Every single example you provide involves a clear violation of a persons right to free will. Your examples are meaningless. Drugs erode free will whether your initial consumption was an act of free will or not. Addiction is addiction. Also I don't think my examples are meaningless because they happen. Your statement "let those too weak to control themselves destroy themselves" only applies if reality is a nice tidy place where kids and others in vulnerable positions are not exploited. Unfortunately they are. I don't think acknowledging that fact is meaningless just because it contradicts your vision of how things should be. My issue is not with your legal stance, which we in fact agree on (legalization with regulations). It's your lack of empathy for drug addicts. Is eating a bar of chocolate one day and wanting to eat more another day because you like it eroding your free will? Because that's how wanting to smoke another joint after initially smoking one is. And you know how eating too much chocolate makes you sick and you don't want to eat it again for a period? Yep, weed is exactly the same. This isn't "should heroin be legalized" thread, it's about god damn weed. It's "addictive" because it's fucking good, not because you don't feel good if you don't consume it (a la heroin and tobacco for that matter). the post I was responding to said all drugs should be legal, which is what I was responding to. I get that this is a weed thread but because this seems to be a relatively common view, I responded to it. I'm sorry..... Buy ya a drink? All drugs should be decriminalized. Because they are health issues and we want people coming forward with their health problems without fear of being put into prison. This is what they did in Portugal and it's worked wonders on lowering drug use rates (people actually stopping their addictions). Distribution of harder drugs can be illegal and punished, of course. That's fine. I see nothing wrong with that. Im not familiar with portugals case, but i did some research on marijuana for a paper and saw plenty of research to support treatment over criminalization. A hairier issue is to what extent the state should support treatment programs, because, even though they are effective and beneficial overall, I am somewhat dubious about forcing everyone to pay for the irresponsible decisions of the few. It's really not fair to those who live responsibly to pay for others' stupid mistakes.
That is basically the definition of the entire criminal justice system...
The notion that getting people back to being productive members of society being a bad thing, and not in society's best interest is absolutely crazy to me.
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Smoking marijuana has bad health effects and should very likely be banned.
... however, consumption of marijuana should not be banned
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On September 04 2012 10:03 r00ty wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 09:45 maki_mtz wrote:
Sure, that would be great for us!!! (Latin countries).
We could export our fine drug dealers sorry, business men (as called per Discovery and history channel). To populate your lovely country. Not that there aren’t many already living with you…
At least we would no longer have to pay with lives your addiction to weed, crack, and coca... sorry for that too... recreational drug.
Please do so. We are tired of dismantling supply chain after supply chain just for you to offer the job to someone else. After all where there are consumers there is a need for a producer.
Don't worry our business men are really cooperative, they will surely abandon their old habits and surrender their weapons... sorry, just the bad habits... after all it is legal to have weapons (in the US)
Oh, well I guess I support legalizing drug... out of Mexico. This way, consumers will get direct supplies from the manufacturers... no broker in between!!! (Should be cheaper) And of course it makes competition easier, when getting a job. You can cross out your fellow colleagues that are addicted to weed.
Hey I got a million dollar idea… happy (weed) meals.
GL HF.
(Problems do not get legalized… they get encouraged)
I have heard the bullets mere 210 yds, of "business men" trying to free their bosses from our Army. There is a lot of cleaning to do, but as long as there are consumers. It will never stop. The most we can hope for is that de business men migrate to another country... Will that country be yours?
Give me a favor... don't do drugs and don't promote them. They are a waste of money and time.
Haha, I hear some people complaining of products because they come from India or China and yet they support drugs. Think about it. lots of people die on a daily basis because of this cancer. Don't promote it.
I pity the situation of your country. But honestly and unfortunately: You absolutely don't get it. You first of all should be pro legalising it. The only reason there is so much money in it, is because it's illegal! Illegal activities with lots of money to be made attract whom? Gangsters. What if there wasn't any money to be made? If marijuana would be legalized in the "western world" the mexican syndicates would loose a vast part of their income. It's a plant which everyone could grow everywhere! Of course it's little more complicated and the syndicates won't disappear in an instant, but the point you make is, with all respect, stupid. Sorry mate. edit: hm, misread your post maybe, not sure. read it again, still not sure. You saying, exporting your gansters was my motivation: No money to be made in illegal activities, no gansters, that's what i wanted to say. I should get some sleep.
Well its quite easy... all things, like drugs, prostitution, weapons, etc. they will continue to exist because there are consumers.
Why do people produce things? As you say, to generate money.
But here is the thing... what kind of people produce these goods? People who want easy money. Imagine, they have paid people to drive submarines for 10 days 200,000 usd (from a NatGeo Documentary).
Ok, now you legalize the drug. These people now need to pay taxes, maybe have a work from 8 to 5. A desk? Sounds like a normal job! Smart people will take the best spots. There's got to be another way to get easy money!
If they have received easy money, they will look another way of getting it. How? looking for another illegal thing to traffic That is what they are good at!
Kids for sexual abuse? Weapons? Kidnaping people? Killing people? Organ traffic? Endangered species? Think of all the illegal things people want that you can traffic with.
Certainly you can't legalize all of them, so the problem doesn't disappear. It only moves either to another country or another "business sector".
That is the true problem !
Consumers of illegal stuff and people who want easy money. So the question are... will they disappear? Are you one of them? When are you deciding to put a stop?
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Horrible thread, dont know which ones are worse "marihuana is the healer of the nation, 420 blaze it, kush, one love hop onto the ganja bus, it cures cancer because the guy that sells me weed told me so" type of arguments, or those that simply close to new opinions, both pro legalization and those that want it to keep it illegal.
Truth is, marihuana is still going to be consumed, and jails are getting filled with guys that got caught with little amounts or that got in problems for just smoking it, plus people are dying to control the illegal bussiness and legalizing it would create a large income for the countries. I think it does harm you (if smoked) and is obviously bad, but just as cigarretes and alcohol, I'd legalize it to get rid of the criminals, spending the tax money on jails, and because it could help the national economy.
In my opinion it should all be illegal, but thats never going to happen, and caffeine, sugar and others are already killing us, so its absurd to go for that path.
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Weed is legal in Canberra, Australia.
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On September 04 2012 13:08 Severe wrote:
Weed is legal in Canberra, Australia.
And how are things there?
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On September 04 2012 13:09 CyDe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 13:08 Severe wrote:
Weed is legal in Canberra, Australia. And how are things there?
its like the wild west, rape, murders, crazy people on rampages 24/7
its hell on earth
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On September 04 2012 11:47 DoubleReed wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 11:30 Zahir wrote:On September 04 2012 10:54 DoubleReed wrote:On September 04 2012 09:45 Zahir wrote:On September 04 2012 09:23 acidfreak wrote:On September 04 2012 08:31 Zahir wrote:On September 04 2012 08:25 cordrann wrote:On September 04 2012 08:06 Zahir wrote:On September 04 2012 07:57 cordrann wrote:
Without a victim there can not be a crime. You can not victimize yourself, by definition you consent to your own actions. All drugs should be legal. Let those too weak to control themselves destroy themselves and remove their inferior genes while decreasing the surplus population. I dislike arguments like these because they ignore reality. The reality is a lot messier. By your logic we should let everyone do whatever they want. Let docs abuse their patients trust and get them hooked. Let dealers sell drugs to kids. Or a person that was injected by a gang or pimp against their will and is now a junkie. When they buy drugs is it because of their inferior genes? You seem to think every addict has it coming and we shouldn't give a damn. You are being illogical. It being legal would completely change the dynamics of how it is acquired. A lot of the negativity and victimization surrounding drugs is in fact created by the fact that it is illegal. By keeping these things illegal we create more profitable markets for criminal elements. 1. That would be a crime by the doctor. 2. I never said it should just be sold on the street like candy. It should be like alcohol obviously. 3. That would be a crime by the gang or pimp. (if its legal there wouldn't be much motive for them to do this in the first place) Every single example you provide involves a clear violation of a persons right to free will. Your examples are meaningless. Drugs erode free will whether your initial consumption was an act of free will or not. Addiction is addiction. Also I don't think my examples are meaningless because they happen. Your statement "let those too weak to control themselves destroy themselves" only applies if reality is a nice tidy place where kids and others in vulnerable positions are not exploited. Unfortunately they are. I don't think acknowledging that fact is meaningless just because it contradicts your vision of how things should be. My issue is not with your legal stance, which we in fact agree on (legalization with regulations). It's your lack of empathy for drug addicts. Is eating a bar of chocolate one day and wanting to eat more another day because you like it eroding your free will? Because that's how wanting to smoke another joint after initially smoking one is. And you know how eating too much chocolate makes you sick and you don't want to eat it again for a period? Yep, weed is exactly the same. This isn't "should heroin be legalized" thread, it's about god damn weed. It's "addictive" because it's fucking good, not because you don't feel good if you don't consume it (a la heroin and tobacco for that matter). the post I was responding to said all drugs should be legal, which is what I was responding to. I get that this is a weed thread but because this seems to be a relatively common view, I responded to it. I'm sorry..... Buy ya a drink? All drugs should be decriminalized. Because they are health issues and we want people coming forward with their health problems without fear of being put into prison. This is what they did in Portugal and it's worked wonders on lowering drug use rates (people actually stopping their addictions). Distribution of harder drugs can be illegal and punished, of course. That's fine. I see nothing wrong with that. Im not familiar with portugals case, but i did some research on marijuana for a paper and saw plenty of research to support treatment over criminalization. A hairier issue is to what extent the state should support treatment programs, because, even though they are effective and beneficial overall, I am somewhat dubious about forcing everyone to pay for the irresponsible decisions of the few. It's really not fair to those who live responsibly to pay for others' stupid mistakes. That is basically the definition of the entire criminal justice system... The notion that getting people back to being productive members of society being a bad thing, and not in society's best interest is absolutely crazy to me.
I will not deny there is a certain element of vengeance involved in criminal justice. If someone does something terrible to you or a loved one, for most people, they expect an equal or greater level of misery to be inflicted on the culprit, regardless of whether this brutalizes and criminalizes the perpetrator even further. Perhaps someday people will grow out of this mentality, but until then I would not expect our conception of justice to be completely overturned.
None of this applies to drug use in itself though, as it is a victimless crime, and thus there is not even that amount of justification for imprisoning users.
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On September 04 2012 13:16 tpmraven wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 13:09 CyDe wrote:On September 04 2012 13:08 Severe wrote:
Weed is legal in Canberra, Australia. And how are things there? its like the wild west, rape, murders, crazy people on rampages 24/7 its hell on earth
If you smoke a joint, it will be the end of our civilization. Tell your children.
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On September 04 2012 07:33 Ballistixz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:27 DigiGnar wrote:On September 04 2012 07:19 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:16 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 07:13 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:12 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 07:09 Ballistixz wrote:
ive seen ppl when they smoke to much weed. ive seen what happened when ppl try to do the stupidest shit while jacked the hell up.
the answer is no. weed may not directly kill u, but it will kill u none the less. what have you seen? maybe you could share with us? b/c i don't know anyone who's smoked too much weed an gone home an beat there wife or kids. maybe this guy is against sugar an he's trying to save all the bags of cookies in the world. ive had friends that smoked way to much and have gotten into car accidents because of the fact that they couldnt even tell if the stree they were on was one way or not. luckily it didnt kill them, but it could have been much worse. then i guess you are all of the prohibition of alcohol then yes? do some research an tell me how the prohibition of alcohol went. an no one is saying it shouldn't be regulated like alcohol, which would include driving on it. alchohol was made illegal at one point. anyone who has taken a middle school history course could tell u the outcome of that. if it wasnt for that outcome alchohol would still be illegal. weed has not had that type of severe setback yet since its illegal already and clearly they want to avoid having it altogether. I guess the mexican cartels don't fight over trade routes... dont know what ur implying. making weed legal wont hurt the cartels in the slightest.
If weed became legal, do you think US citizens will buy from a street dealer or a regulated shop that has a paper trail for where it buys the product from? Tell me, how is losing a multi-million dollar industry not going to hurt in the slightest? Remember, one of these guys got on the Forbes list.
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Short term it would lead to even more violence as the cartels are fighting over less revenue, but long-term destroying the marijuana market will mean there is simply less reason for their existence. Yes, they might turn to pushing other illegal drugs, (or gambling, kidnapping), but there really is a limit to how powerful they can be if nobody wants their products.
As far as I know, a lot of Latin governments are sympathetic to legalization, but it's the influence of the United States that prevents them from taking any steps in that direction.
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On September 04 2012 13:31 Zahir wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 11:47 DoubleReed wrote:On September 04 2012 11:30 Zahir wrote:On September 04 2012 10:54 DoubleReed wrote:On September 04 2012 09:45 Zahir wrote:On September 04 2012 09:23 acidfreak wrote:On September 04 2012 08:31 Zahir wrote:On September 04 2012 08:25 cordrann wrote:On September 04 2012 08:06 Zahir wrote:On September 04 2012 07:57 cordrann wrote:
Without a victim there can not be a crime. You can not victimize yourself, by definition you consent to your own actions. All drugs should be legal. Let those too weak to control themselves destroy themselves and remove their inferior genes while decreasing the surplus population. I dislike arguments like these because they ignore reality. The reality is a lot messier. By your logic we should let everyone do whatever they want. Let docs abuse their patients trust and get them hooked. Let dealers sell drugs to kids. Or a person that was injected by a gang or pimp against their will and is now a junkie. When they buy drugs is it because of their inferior genes? You seem to think every addict has it coming and we shouldn't give a damn. You are being illogical. It being legal would completely change the dynamics of how it is acquired. A lot of the negativity and victimization surrounding drugs is in fact created by the fact that it is illegal. By keeping these things illegal we create more profitable markets for criminal elements. 1. That would be a crime by the doctor. 2. I never said it should just be sold on the street like candy. It should be like alcohol obviously. 3. That would be a crime by the gang or pimp. (if its legal there wouldn't be much motive for them to do this in the first place) Every single example you provide involves a clear violation of a persons right to free will. Your examples are meaningless. Drugs erode free will whether your initial consumption was an act of free will or not. Addiction is addiction. Also I don't think my examples are meaningless because they happen. Your statement "let those too weak to control themselves destroy themselves" only applies if reality is a nice tidy place where kids and others in vulnerable positions are not exploited. Unfortunately they are. I don't think acknowledging that fact is meaningless just because it contradicts your vision of how things should be. My issue is not with your legal stance, which we in fact agree on (legalization with regulations). It's your lack of empathy for drug addicts. Is eating a bar of chocolate one day and wanting to eat more another day because you like it eroding your free will? Because that's how wanting to smoke another joint after initially smoking one is. And you know how eating too much chocolate makes you sick and you don't want to eat it again for a period? Yep, weed is exactly the same. This isn't "should heroin be legalized" thread, it's about god damn weed. It's "addictive" because it's fucking good, not because you don't feel good if you don't consume it (a la heroin and tobacco for that matter). the post I was responding to said all drugs should be legal, which is what I was responding to. I get that this is a weed thread but because this seems to be a relatively common view, I responded to it. I'm sorry..... Buy ya a drink? All drugs should be decriminalized. Because they are health issues and we want people coming forward with their health problems without fear of being put into prison. This is what they did in Portugal and it's worked wonders on lowering drug use rates (people actually stopping their addictions). Distribution of harder drugs can be illegal and punished, of course. That's fine. I see nothing wrong with that. Im not familiar with portugals case, but i did some research on marijuana for a paper and saw plenty of research to support treatment over criminalization. A hairier issue is to what extent the state should support treatment programs, because, even though they are effective and beneficial overall, I am somewhat dubious about forcing everyone to pay for the irresponsible decisions of the few. It's really not fair to those who live responsibly to pay for others' stupid mistakes. That is basically the definition of the entire criminal justice system... The notion that getting people back to being productive members of society being a bad thing, and not in society's best interest is absolutely crazy to me. I will not deny there is a certain element of vengeance involved in criminal justice. If someone does something terrible to you or a loved one, for most people, they expect an equal or greater level of misery to be inflicted on the culprit, regardless of whether this brutalizes and criminalizes the perpetrator even further. Perhaps someday people will grow out of this mentality, but until then I would not expect our conception of justice to be completely overturned. None of this applies to drug use in itself though, as it is a victimless crime, and thus there is not even that amount of justification for imprisoning users.
Well you were talking about forcing society to pay for someone's else irresponsible decisions or whatever. This mentality undermines the criminal justice system, whose whole purpose is to serve society. Society pays for prisons and a legal system, even for petty civil suits with the entire intention of forcing society to pay for other people's decisions. There's no way you can get around that. We therefore should be looking for the most effective way for it to be serving society.
It's also a very dangerous mentality to have when you listen to the amount of victim-blaming that still goes on in society. "Why should we charge rapists when what really needs to happen is for women to act responsibly..."
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Things are fine, no issue one of the safest most peaceful places in australia.
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OP: Should weed be legalized?
NO
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I really wish it would be legal, but honestly I do not think it will be legalized in germany anytime soon.
Politicians getting crazy about normal smoking, how should they legalize weed - I just can't imagine.
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meh, really weird topic to discuss, but my opinion on it is to just legalize it, if you dont, people will just get marijuana one way or another.. i mean... yeah =.=
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Not gonna go through 10 pages, but as I said yesterday, weed would only get more expensive, because it would be super taxed
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On September 02 2012 11:38 acker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 11:33 Roe wrote:
Again, you sure he didn't have any problems in his life, underlying his drug dependence? An anecdote does not make an argument. I know plenty of people killed or ruined by alcohol, yet almost everyone would agree that banning alcohol from the general populace would be a ridiculous idea, rather than taxing and restricting it.
no you dont, you might have heard of people, but you dont know.
and yes if it was possible to illegalize alcohol, it would be illegal, but it's so deeply rooted into our society that it wont be possible in a modern "democracy".
I dont see why the society should let even more drugs get established in our modern society, In my opinion people who do drugs should not be considered adults and should not be allowed to vote.
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On September 04 2012 20:46 NEEDZMOAR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 11:38 acker wrote:On September 02 2012 11:33 Roe wrote:
Again, you sure he didn't have any problems in his life, underlying his drug dependence? An anecdote does not make an argument. I know plenty of people killed or ruined by alcohol, yet almost everyone would agree that banning alcohol from the general populace would be a ridiculous idea, rather than taxing and restricting it. no you dont, you might have heard of people, but you dont know. and yes if it was possible to illegalize alcohol, it would be illegal, but it's so deeply rooted into our society that it wont be possible in a modern "democracy". I dont see why the society should let even more drugs get established in our modern society, In my opinion people who do drugs should not be considered adults and should not be allowed to vote.
and if you take aspirins, should then your voting privileges will be revoked as well?
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On September 04 2012 13:38 DigiGnar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 07:33 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:27 DigiGnar wrote:On September 04 2012 07:19 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:16 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 07:13 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:12 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 07:09 Ballistixz wrote:
ive seen ppl when they smoke to much weed. ive seen what happened when ppl try to do the stupidest shit while jacked the hell up.
the answer is no. weed may not directly kill u, but it will kill u none the less. what have you seen? maybe you could share with us? b/c i don't know anyone who's smoked too much weed an gone home an beat there wife or kids. maybe this guy is against sugar an he's trying to save all the bags of cookies in the world. ive had friends that smoked way to much and have gotten into car accidents because of the fact that they couldnt even tell if the stree they were on was one way or not. luckily it didnt kill them, but it could have been much worse. then i guess you are all of the prohibition of alcohol then yes? do some research an tell me how the prohibition of alcohol went. an no one is saying it shouldn't be regulated like alcohol, which would include driving on it. alchohol was made illegal at one point. anyone who has taken a middle school history course could tell u the outcome of that. if it wasnt for that outcome alchohol would still be illegal. weed has not had that type of severe setback yet since its illegal already and clearly they want to avoid having it altogether. I guess the mexican cartels don't fight over trade routes... dont know what ur implying. making weed legal wont hurt the cartels in the slightest. If weed became legal, do you think US citizens will buy from a street dealer or a regulated shop that has a paper trail for where it buys the product from? Tell me, how is losing a multi-million dollar industry not going to hurt in the slightest? Remember, one of these guys got on the Forbes list.
When its legalised it will still be criminals who run the trade, they have the most experience and an infrastructure already there, they are also not handicapped by a moral code so they can just intimidate newcomers in the business to stay out.
Eventually the influence of criminals might decline but criminals will dominate the market for a long time after it has become legal.
Annyway:weed should not be legalised, it is to dangerous when its freely available.
It is more dangerous then alcohol, and the negative effects are severely underestimated.
I know of way more people who do nothing besides beeing stoned all day then i know of people who do nothing besides beeing drunk all day.
Btw: i have not just heard of these people, i do actually know them
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On September 04 2012 20:50 Rassy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 13:38 DigiGnar wrote:On September 04 2012 07:33 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:27 DigiGnar wrote:On September 04 2012 07:19 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:16 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 07:13 Ballistixz wrote:On September 04 2012 07:12 EiBmoZ wrote:On September 04 2012 07:09 Ballistixz wrote:
ive seen ppl when they smoke to much weed. ive seen what happened when ppl try to do the stupidest shit while jacked the hell up.
the answer is no. weed may not directly kill u, but it will kill u none the less. what have you seen? maybe you could share with us? b/c i don't know anyone who's smoked too much weed an gone home an beat there wife or kids. maybe this guy is against sugar an he's trying to save all the bags of cookies in the world. ive had friends that smoked way to much and have gotten into car accidents because of the fact that they couldnt even tell if the stree they were on was one way or not. luckily it didnt kill them, but it could have been much worse. then i guess you are all of the prohibition of alcohol then yes? do some research an tell me how the prohibition of alcohol went. an no one is saying it shouldn't be regulated like alcohol, which would include driving on it. alchohol was made illegal at one point. anyone who has taken a middle school history course could tell u the outcome of that. if it wasnt for that outcome alchohol would still be illegal. weed has not had that type of severe setback yet since its illegal already and clearly they want to avoid having it altogether. I guess the mexican cartels don't fight over trade routes... dont know what ur implying. making weed legal wont hurt the cartels in the slightest. If weed became legal, do you think US citizens will buy from a street dealer or a regulated shop that has a paper trail for where it buys the product from? Tell me, how is losing a multi-million dollar industry not going to hurt in the slightest? Remember, one of these guys got on the Forbes list. Annyway:weed should not be legalised, it is to dangerous when its freely available. It is more dangerous then alcohol, and the negative effects are severely underestimated. I know of way more people who do nothing besides beeing stoned all day then i know of people who do nothing besides beeing drunk all day. Btw: i have not just heard of these people, i do actually know them
I'm sorry, but this is the biggest nonsense I've ever heard.
If you would understand the real difference between effects of alcohol and weed on the human body, you would have an entirely different opinion. People being stoned all day has nothing to do with the drug, it has to do with them, and making it illegal will change nothing.
If you smoke a lot of weed constantly (and with that I mean huge amount every day for years) you get a slow memory, and you become a slow person in most cases. Until you stop, and after a few weeks you're much improved already. Fuller recovery can take several months.
If you drink an equal amount of alcohol you deal with a huge amount of different and severe problems. Liver failure? Cancer? Brain damage?
Pay attention I'm talking about real addicts here in both cases. However I would still argue against alcohol strongly in smaller dosages. It is way more harmful than people assume and has tremendous detrimental effects, much much more so than weed and many other "drugs". And no I'm not arguing to ban alcohol. But I would like to see it phased out, to see people no longer destroying their bodies with it. Drinking has become some kind of sport, which is horrible.
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