• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:45
CET 15:45
KST 23:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners10Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!44$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon! RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker? [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Learning my new SC2 hotkey…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1350 users

What's Wrong with Multiculturalism? - Page 20

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 Next All
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
August 15 2012 17:03 GMT
#381
Multiculturalism doesn't work because you need certain public values and beliefs to be held by the vast majority of the population. It's necessary for a civil society. If you have 85% of the population thinking women are equal to men and 15% thinking they aren't as a formal part of their identity, you're going to have friction and problems.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 18:21:41
August 15 2012 18:21 GMT
#382
Multiculturalism could work if there are laws ensuring that anyone has the inalienable right to choose their cultural boundaries should they wish to with impunity. If people want to tread their women like dirt, that's fine. I might even tolerate it. But the women should have te right to defect and no harm should come to them. You end up with a shrinking culture without women and their only choice is to treat women better. Or is this too naive of a concept and people will just start chaining women in basements...
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6248 Posts
August 15 2012 18:47 GMT
#383
On August 16 2012 03:21 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Multiculturalism could work if there are laws ensuring that anyone has the inalienable right to choose their cultural boundaries should they wish to with impunity. If people want to tread their women like dirt, that's fine. I might even tolerate it. But the women should have te right to defect and no harm should come to them. You end up with a shrinking culture without women and their only choice is to treat women better. Or is this too naive of a concept and people will just start chaining women in basements...

In practise I doubt this will work its very difficult for women to leave their husband even when they get abused and hit. And it's common in some cultures for families to kick out the women who divorce from their men which makes it extremely difficult for them to choose for the self since they're usually not well educated and it's hard for them to get a job.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4355 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 12:53:54
August 16 2012 12:51 GMT
#384
On August 16 2012 03:47 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 03:21 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Multiculturalism could work if there are laws ensuring that anyone has the inalienable right to choose their cultural boundaries should they wish to with impunity. If people want to tread their women like dirt, that's fine. I might even tolerate it. But the women should have te right to defect and no harm should come to them. You end up with a shrinking culture without women and their only choice is to treat women better. Or is this too naive of a concept and people will just start chaining women in basements...

In practise I doubt this will work its very difficult for women to leave their husband even when they get abused and hit. And it's common in some cultures for families to kick out the women who divorce from their men which makes it extremely difficult for them to choose for the self since they're usually not well educated and it's hard for them to get a job.

Actually i recall a case in the UK a few years back where a muslim woman who wore a headscarf permanently applied for a job at a hairdressing salon.The employer at the salon at the job interview asked this woman if she would take her scarf off while working at the salon so that people who went for their haircut could see her hair and maybe ask for that style and she refused.

Anyhow she did not get the job and then sued the employer and won.I'm sure the story is still out there if you want to read more about it.My point is wearing headscarves and burkhas decreases their job opportunities as well , not just their general lack of job experience or education.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Bahamut1337
Profile Joined July 2012
Ghana205 Posts
August 16 2012 13:10 GMT
#385
On August 16 2012 21:51 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 03:47 RvB wrote:
On August 16 2012 03:21 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Multiculturalism could work if there are laws ensuring that anyone has the inalienable right to choose their cultural boundaries should they wish to with impunity. If people want to tread their women like dirt, that's fine. I might even tolerate it. But the women should have te right to defect and no harm should come to them. You end up with a shrinking culture without women and their only choice is to treat women better. Or is this too naive of a concept and people will just start chaining women in basements...

In practise I doubt this will work its very difficult for women to leave their husband even when they get abused and hit. And it's common in some cultures for families to kick out the women who divorce from their men which makes it extremely difficult for them to choose for the self since they're usually not well educated and it's hard for them to get a job.

Actually i recall a case in the UK a few years back where a muslim woman who wore a headscarf permanently applied for a job at a hairdressing salon.The employer at the salon at the job interview asked this woman if she would take her scarf off while working at the salon so that people who went for their haircut could see her hair and maybe ask for that style and she refused.

Anyhow she did not get the job and then sued the employer and won.I'm sure the story is still out there if you want to read more about it.My point is wearing headscarves and burkhas decreases their job opportunities as well , not just their general lack of job experience or education.


A few days ago a Muslim woman sued disney for asking her to wear a headscarf which would be suited for their parks, she refused and is now in a courtroom to demand money

When one enter a muslim nation we should behave to their standards
when a Muslim enters the west we should adapt to their standards, and guess what? we do! because they are so much more violent.
Legate
Profile Joined November 2011
46 Posts
August 16 2012 13:20 GMT
#386
What is wrong with multiculturalism?

A lot. But imo the biggest issue is, that a country which pursues a multicultural policy like the one in most western countries, over a long period of time, is basically committing ethnic and cultural suicide.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
August 17 2012 01:32 GMT
#387
On August 16 2012 22:20 Legate wrote:
What is wrong with multiculturalism?

A lot. But imo the biggest issue is, that a country which pursues a multicultural policy like the one in most western countries, over a long period of time, is basically committing ethnic and cultural suicide.

I certainly hope we're committing ethnic and cultural suicide. Neither is worth preserving.

The danger is not that we'll lose our culture, but that it will be replaced by a repressive, evil one.
My strategy is to fork people.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
August 17 2012 01:42 GMT
#388
On August 17 2012 10:32 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:20 Legate wrote:
What is wrong with multiculturalism?

A lot. But imo the biggest issue is, that a country which pursues a multicultural policy like the one in most western countries, over a long period of time, is basically committing ethnic and cultural suicide.

I certainly hope we're committing ethnic and cultural suicide. Neither is worth preserving.

The danger is not that we'll lose our culture, but that it will be replaced by a repressive, evil one.


You think our culture is going to be replaced by an evil one, but also that you hope for our culture to die completely? I think there's a lot in western philosophy that is worth keeping (free inquiry, expression, association, etc) don't you?
Oaky
Profile Joined August 2012
United States95 Posts
August 17 2012 07:08 GMT
#389
On August 11 2012 15:42 zalz wrote:
Multiculturalism doesn't work. You need some form of cohession, some larger culture that everyone somehow feels a part of.

If not that, it is simply cultural segregation, something which is already a fact in many places in Europe.


Not all cultures are equal.

You are stupid for putting a value on culture, which is a product of many circumstantial things.
SOOOOOOO MANY BANELINGS!
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 17 2012 08:24 GMT
#390
On August 17 2012 16:08 Oaky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 15:42 zalz wrote:
Multiculturalism doesn't work. You need some form of cohession, some larger culture that everyone somehow feels a part of.

If not that, it is simply cultural segregation, something which is already a fact in many places in Europe.


Not all cultures are equal.

You are stupid for putting a value on culture, which is a product of many circumstantial things.


In what way does the circumstantial nature detract from the value? It seems a nonsensical statement.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4355 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 08:38:34
August 17 2012 08:32 GMT
#391
On August 17 2012 10:32 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:20 Legate wrote:
What is wrong with multiculturalism?

A lot. But imo the biggest issue is, that a country which pursues a multicultural policy like the one in most western countries, over a long period of time, is basically committing ethnic and cultural suicide.

I certainly hope we're committing ethnic and cultural suicide. Neither is worth preserving.

If you don't like the culture in the US why not move elsewhere.This self defeating negative crap gets us nowhere.

You think our culture is going to be replaced by an evil one, but also that you hope for our culture to die completely? I think there's a lot in western philosophy that is worth keeping (free inquiry, expression, association, etc) don't you?

The problem boils down to inept governments.How many people on Wall Street were jailed for the 2008 financial crisis? If no-one (OK except small fry Bernie Madoff) was jailed does that mean noone did anything wrong? Most of Obamas advisors are ex Wall Street that should tell you something and the Republicans are just as bad.

Then you've got the welfare culture where unemployed workshys think they are owed a living by hard working folks.Time to roll back the welfare state and you might start seeing strong work ethic and other values start creeping back into more of the population.Society would be better off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
August 17 2012 12:49 GMT
#392
Excuse me, but multiculturalism is responsible for huge bounds in culture. Jazz comes from African rhythms mixing with western tonalities and instruments. It led to Rock and Pop. This Afro-European music has essentially dominated the globe because it's just so much better than everything before it.

As for the "racism is natural" charge, Implicit Racism is very different from Explicit Racism. People do not create bigoted laws based on Implicit Racism. Almost everyone is an implicit racist. That's not at all a fair charge.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4355 Posts
August 17 2012 14:14 GMT
#393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 20:01:09
August 22 2012 20:00 GMT
#394
On August 17 2012 23:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3Eam5FX58



I seriously don't understand why women are free to use their natural "indirect and psychological" violence while men are forced to be on a playground which isnt theirs.

The cleric's premisse is "if YOU beat your wife".
He never discussed about the reasons, but you obviously need to have a good one.

In case she harasses you psychologically very hard, or cheats with another man, I don't see anything wrong with light beating not causing any bruises.
Claiming there's virtually no scenario where light beatings could be an option is by far more extremist.




Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 20:07:58
August 22 2012 20:07 GMT
#395
On August 23 2012 05:00 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 23:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3Eam5FX58



I seriously don't understand why women are free to use their natural "indirect and psychological" violence while men are forced to be on a playground which isnt theirs.

The cleric's premisse is "if YOU beat your wife".
He never discussed about the reasons, but you obviously need to have a good one.

In case she harasses you psychologically very hard, or cheats with another man, I don't see anything wrong with light beating not causing any bruises.
Claiming there's virtually no scenario where light beatings could be an option is by far more extremist.






Dude, physical violence in the context of an intimate relationship is never okay. Kind of scary that people still think it is.

If she's treating you like shit, it doesn't give you the right to beat her. It does, however, give you the right to leave, and leave her penniless with the divorce settlement (assuming you were smart and got a pre-nup drafted and signed in a male-friendly jurisdiction.)
Что?
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 20:23:49
August 22 2012 20:21 GMT
#396
On August 23 2012 05:07 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 05:00 SiroKO wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3Eam5FX58



I seriously don't understand why women are free to use their natural "indirect and psychological" violence while men are forced to be on a playground which isnt theirs.

The cleric's premisse is "if YOU beat your wife".
He never discussed about the reasons, but you obviously need to have a good one.

In case she harasses you psychologically very hard, or cheats with another man, I don't see anything wrong with light beating not causing any bruises.
Claiming there's virtually no scenario where light beatings could be an option is by far more extremist.






Dude, physical violence in the context of an intimate relationship is never okay. Kind of scary that people still think it is.

If she's treating you like shit, it doesn't give you the right to beat her. It does, however, give you the right to leave, and leave her penniless with the divorce settlement (assuming you were smart and got a pre-nup drafted and signed in a male-friendly jurisdiction.)


I'm not saying direct violence is the solution.
My point is that in a few cases, I consider it to be healthier than the typical sly judiciary/psychological tricks.

Ofc, the "violence" I'm talking about has nothing to do with a beat-down or an uppercut.
Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
August 22 2012 21:09 GMT
#397
On August 23 2012 05:21 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 05:07 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 23 2012 05:00 SiroKO wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3Eam5FX58



I seriously don't understand why women are free to use their natural "indirect and psychological" violence while men are forced to be on a playground which isnt theirs.

The cleric's premisse is "if YOU beat your wife".
He never discussed about the reasons, but you obviously need to have a good one.

In case she harasses you psychologically very hard, or cheats with another man, I don't see anything wrong with light beating not causing any bruises.
Claiming there's virtually no scenario where light beatings could be an option is by far more extremist.






Dude, physical violence in the context of an intimate relationship is never okay. Kind of scary that people still think it is.

If she's treating you like shit, it doesn't give you the right to beat her. It does, however, give you the right to leave, and leave her penniless with the divorce settlement (assuming you were smart and got a pre-nup drafted and signed in a male-friendly jurisdiction.)


I'm not saying direct violence is the solution.
My point is that in a few cases, I consider it to be healthier than the typical sly judiciary/psychological tricks.

Ofc, the "violence" I'm talking about has nothing to do with a beat-down or an uppercut.


???

You just said "I don't see anything wrong with a light beating." Yea, you're real classy here.

I'm a little confused. Are men too stupid and dim-witted to use psychological harm of your own? What exactly is the issue here? It sounds like you're just a dumb brute who only understands physical violence.

No. Hitting, restraining, and raping people is not okay. I think maybe you need to go back to Kindergarten to learn basic morality.
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 22 2012 21:26 GMT
#398
On August 23 2012 05:21 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 05:07 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 23 2012 05:00 SiroKO wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3Eam5FX58



I seriously don't understand why women are free to use their natural "indirect and psychological" violence while men are forced to be on a playground which isnt theirs.

The cleric's premisse is "if YOU beat your wife".
He never discussed about the reasons, but you obviously need to have a good one.

In case she harasses you psychologically very hard, or cheats with another man, I don't see anything wrong with light beating not causing any bruises.
Claiming there's virtually no scenario where light beatings could be an option is by far more extremist.






Dude, physical violence in the context of an intimate relationship is never okay. Kind of scary that people still think it is.

If she's treating you like shit, it doesn't give you the right to beat her. It does, however, give you the right to leave, and leave her penniless with the divorce settlement (assuming you were smart and got a pre-nup drafted and signed in a male-friendly jurisdiction.)


I'm not saying direct violence is the solution.
My point is that in a few cases, I consider it to be healthier than the typical sly judiciary/psychological tricks.

Ofc, the "violence" I'm talking about has nothing to do with a beat-down or an uppercut.


Here's the thing: if you ever feel the need to inflict pain, physical or emotional, your significant other, then it's time to just walk away. Love shouldn't ever be about wanting to hurt someone.

That's what I meant with the "right to leave". You always have a right to leave. That's the trump card in a relationship. The trump card should never be "I have a right to slap you around a little" or "emotionally abuse you to the point of making you suicidal".

Note that this applies for the woman just as much it does for the man. If a girl feels like she has the right to sleep around to take revenge on her boyfriend/husband, she's much better off just leaving. It's just not healthy to keep going in that sort of situation. Even if there's hope for a turnaround, chances are things will just get worse and eventually spiral out of control.
Что?
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 22:38:01
August 22 2012 22:37 GMT
#399
On August 23 2012 06:26 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 05:21 SiroKO wrote:
On August 23 2012 05:07 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 23 2012 05:00 SiroKO wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3Eam5FX58



I seriously don't understand why women are free to use their natural "indirect and psychological" violence while men are forced to be on a playground which isnt theirs.

The cleric's premisse is "if YOU beat your wife".
He never discussed about the reasons, but you obviously need to have a good one.

In case she harasses you psychologically very hard, or cheats with another man, I don't see anything wrong with light beating not causing any bruises.
Claiming there's virtually no scenario where light beatings could be an option is by far more extremist.






Dude, physical violence in the context of an intimate relationship is never okay. Kind of scary that people still think it is.

If she's treating you like shit, it doesn't give you the right to beat her. It does, however, give you the right to leave, and leave her penniless with the divorce settlement (assuming you were smart and got a pre-nup drafted and signed in a male-friendly jurisdiction.)


I'm not saying direct violence is the solution.
My point is that in a few cases, I consider it to be healthier than the typical sly judiciary/psychological tricks.

Ofc, the "violence" I'm talking about has nothing to do with a beat-down or an uppercut.


Here's the thing: if you ever feel the need to inflict pain, physical or emotional, your significant other, then it's time to just walk away. Love shouldn't ever be about wanting to hurt someone.

That's what I meant with the "right to leave". You always have a right to leave. That's the trump card in a relationship. The trump card should never be "I have a right to slap you around a little" or "emotionally abuse you to the point of making you suicidal".

Note that this applies for the woman just as much it does for the man. If a girl feels like she has the right to sleep around to take revenge on her boyfriend/husband, she's much better off just leaving. It's just not healthy to keep going in that sort of situation. Even if there's hope for a turnaround, chances are things will just get worse and eventually spiral out of control.


The thing is, the pain inflicted by men, even if it's light, is often obvious and thus (judiciarly but not only) reprehensible.
While the typical sly emotionnal harassment or persecution is indirect, by far more damaging, but cannot be seen, thus can hardly be condemned.

I see in our society how indirect violence dominates everything, and I sometimes wish people would be more direct and less hypocritical.
For instance, I much prefer being slapped in the face, rather than suddenly be ignored and having to bear her sneaky remarks on my back.

But sadly, today we only hear about violent stupid fucks, or smart never-violent gentlemen... thus when you talk about violence, even rationally, people automatically label you as a stupid machismo brute.


Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
August 23 2012 00:05 GMT
#400
On August 23 2012 07:37 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 06:26 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 23 2012 05:21 SiroKO wrote:
On August 23 2012 05:07 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 23 2012 05:00 SiroKO wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:14 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3Eam5FX58



I seriously don't understand why women are free to use their natural "indirect and psychological" violence while men are forced to be on a playground which isnt theirs.

The cleric's premisse is "if YOU beat your wife".
He never discussed about the reasons, but you obviously need to have a good one.

In case she harasses you psychologically very hard, or cheats with another man, I don't see anything wrong with light beating not causing any bruises.
Claiming there's virtually no scenario where light beatings could be an option is by far more extremist.






Dude, physical violence in the context of an intimate relationship is never okay. Kind of scary that people still think it is.

If she's treating you like shit, it doesn't give you the right to beat her. It does, however, give you the right to leave, and leave her penniless with the divorce settlement (assuming you were smart and got a pre-nup drafted and signed in a male-friendly jurisdiction.)


I'm not saying direct violence is the solution.
My point is that in a few cases, I consider it to be healthier than the typical sly judiciary/psychological tricks.

Ofc, the "violence" I'm talking about has nothing to do with a beat-down or an uppercut.


Here's the thing: if you ever feel the need to inflict pain, physical or emotional, your significant other, then it's time to just walk away. Love shouldn't ever be about wanting to hurt someone.

That's what I meant with the "right to leave". You always have a right to leave. That's the trump card in a relationship. The trump card should never be "I have a right to slap you around a little" or "emotionally abuse you to the point of making you suicidal".

Note that this applies for the woman just as much it does for the man. If a girl feels like she has the right to sleep around to take revenge on her boyfriend/husband, she's much better off just leaving. It's just not healthy to keep going in that sort of situation. Even if there's hope for a turnaround, chances are things will just get worse and eventually spiral out of control.


The thing is, the pain inflicted by men, even if it's light, is often obvious and thus (judiciarly but not only) reprehensible.
While the typical sly emotionnal harassment or persecution is indirect, by far more damaging, but cannot be seen, thus can hardly be condemned.

I see in our society how indirect violence dominates everything, and I sometimes wish people would be more direct and less hypocritical.
For instance, I much prefer being slapped in the face, rather than suddenly be ignored and having to bear her sneaky remarks on my back.

But sadly, today we only hear about violent stupid fucks, or smart never-violent gentlemen... thus when you talk about violence, even rationally, people automatically label you as a stupid machismo brute.



yeah but the idea is that the correct response to abuse, emotional or otherwise is not "more abuse". two wrongs don't make a right, don't fight fire with fire, and all that good stuff.

I mean, if she's being a bitch, then what you're saying is that there are two possible responses
a) be a bitch right back at her
b) PIMP SLAP DAT HO
while SS is pointing out there's a third response
c) find someone else who isn't a bitch
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Korean Royale
12:00
Group Stage 1 - Group A
WardiTV1122
Rex143
IntoTheiNu 16
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Reynor 345
Rex 143
MindelVK 38
Railgan 3
StarCraft: Brood War
firebathero 10541
Sea 3566
GuemChi 668
Barracks 598
Mini 442
Soma 350
PianO 205
Hyun 171
Last 145
hero 139
[ Show more ]
Larva 76
Backho 53
ToSsGirL 34
Terrorterran 20
HiyA 15
Noble 13
scan(afreeca) 10
zelot 9
Dota 2
qojqva2477
Dendi870
BananaSlamJamma48
Counter-Strike
byalli298
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor380
Other Games
singsing2508
B2W.Neo1194
Sick249
Hui .219
RotterdaM191
XcaliburYe105
goatrope61
QueenE39
Mlord14
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3341
• WagamamaTV515
• Ler87
Upcoming Events
LAN Event
15m
ByuN vs Zoun
TBD vs TriGGeR
Clem vs TBD
IPSL
3h 15m
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
5h 15m
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
OSC
8h 15m
OSC
18h 15m
Wardi Open
21h 15m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
[ Show More ]
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
BSL 21
6 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.