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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13014 Posts
October 05 2016 10:05 GMT
#1301
On October 05 2016 06:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:
I preordered the XL and I'm excited about the following:

1440p screen
Snapdragon 821
Android 7.1

And some more niche "nice-to-haves" that might be kinda cool possibly:

Best camera NA
Google Assistant
No manufacturer skins/launchers

The biggest downside is obviously the price. I ordered the 32GB XL with device protection and a basic case and it came to $969.91.

I'm upgrading from a Nexus 5 which is like 3 full generations.

Are there any competitive devices? I can always cancel my preorder if you suggest anything obviously superior.

Wait for S8/S8E line which will probably have Snapdragon 830, better camera with OIS and cool PPI as well? There'll be a skin tho.
Buy a O+3 in the meantime and resell it or something, smoothest Android device atm or so I heard.
WriterMaru
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 10:47:28
October 05 2016 10:44 GMT
#1302
Even the Exynos on the S7/Edge are FAR more powerful than the 821

Honestly, QC SoC are the slowest (bar mediatek, and even them sieems to be making huge jumps lately)

Not to mention, the 8890 is way more power efficient
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 05 2016 11:45 GMT
#1303
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
October 05 2016 16:00 GMT
#1304
I'll make a decision when the reviews come out

I don't understand why waterproofing is even a thing, I've used my device (5x) in the rain/wet next to my sink plenty of times without issue
I also hardly use the wireless charging because it heats the phone up like crazy

is there a source showing 821 benchmarks compared to the 8890?
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13014 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 16:11:30
October 05 2016 16:11 GMT
#1305
On October 06 2016 01:00 andyrau wrote:
I don't understand why waterproofing is even a thing, I've used my device (5x) in the rain/wet next to my sink plenty of times without issue

Because Android flagships mostly share the same SoC and similar OS, if you charge that much without even having features that every other competitor in this price range have, it's like you are selling less for the same price. Good camera is cool even tho it's yet to be seen, but is it enough to compete against other Android flagships?
I mean, if I were to buy an Android phone, I'd rather buy the O+3 or an global ROM version of the Xiaomi Mi5s/5sPlus...
It's not like they are selling Pixel in France yet tho haha.
WriterMaru
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12249 Posts
October 05 2016 16:45 GMT
#1306
On October 06 2016 01:00 andyrau wrote:
I'll make a decision when the reviews come out

I don't understand why waterproofing is even a thing, I've used my device (5x) in the rain/wet next to my sink plenty of times without issue
I also hardly use the wireless charging because it heats the phone up like crazy

is there a source showing 821 benchmarks compared to the 8890?


I found this: http://www.techgrapple.com/apple-a10-sd-821-820/

8890: 2038 / 5895
821: 1853 / 4380

That's actually a shame =( We won't know exactly how the Pixel measures up but the tests on that Zenfone 3 Deluxe don't look promising.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
October 05 2016 22:07 GMT
#1307
On October 06 2016 01:45 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 01:00 andyrau wrote:
I'll make a decision when the reviews come out

I don't understand why waterproofing is even a thing, I've used my device (5x) in the rain/wet next to my sink plenty of times without issue
I also hardly use the wireless charging because it heats the phone up like crazy

is there a source showing 821 benchmarks compared to the 8890?


I found this: http://www.techgrapple.com/apple-a10-sd-821-820/

8890: 2038 / 5895
821: 1853 / 4380

That's actually a shame =( We won't know exactly how the Pixel measures up but the tests on that Zenfone 3 Deluxe don't look promising.

the graphics chip is more important when it comes to performance on mobiles and it trumps the 8890 in that department
still loses to the a10 by a handy margin regardless

I'll just wait for the actual benchmarks before making a judgement
that back panel is awful though
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13014 Posts
October 05 2016 22:19 GMT
#1308
On October 06 2016 01:45 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 01:00 andyrau wrote:
I'll make a decision when the reviews come out

I don't understand why waterproofing is even a thing, I've used my device (5x) in the rain/wet next to my sink plenty of times without issue
I also hardly use the wireless charging because it heats the phone up like crazy

is there a source showing 821 benchmarks compared to the 8890?


I found this: http://www.techgrapple.com/apple-a10-sd-821-820/

8890: 2038 / 5895
821: 1853 / 4380

That's actually a shame =( We won't know exactly how the Pixel measures up but the tests on that Zenfone 3 Deluxe don't look promising.

If you care about SoC performance, intended OS experience, etc... and don't care much about the price, why not just take the iPhone 7 plus?
WriterMaru
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
October 06 2016 06:44 GMT
#1309
don't like ios
havent liked the design since 5
can't jailbreak

specifically for the 7 i dont have a headphone jack
don't really care for waterproofing
haven't invested in the apple ecosystem to warrant getting a phone to complement my other accessories/gadgets
list goes on
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-06 11:52:56
October 06 2016 11:51 GMT
#1310
QC got baited into 64bits because of Apple honestly

They were doing just fine with the 805, but the sudden release of the Iphone 5s with the A7 made QC rush to create a 64bit SoC (810/808) and they have been playing catch up since then.

Even if at the time was just a marketing gimmick
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-06 11:59:13
October 06 2016 11:52 GMT
#1311
I dont think the Pixel phones are worth it for the SoC, especially at that price.

The Xiaomi Mi5s is coming at pretty much half the price, next year the SD830 should be quite a jump, DDR4X + New CPU architecture + back to Octa-Core.

Considering my X Pure is getting 7.0, ill probabky wait till next year for an upgrade with the 830, next Xiaomi or One Plus probably or a new Moto if Lenovo keeps the X line up as the high-specs + omissions for a sub $400 phone
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12842 Posts
October 06 2016 15:21 GMT
#1312
Water proof was the best feature for my sony Z1.
smartphone gets dirty easily, unwashed hand against your face?
I literally washed my phone with soap :p
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-06 17:14:15
October 06 2016 17:07 GMT
#1313




At Google’s hardware event this week, the new version of the Android operating system, Android 7.1 (Nougat 7.1), was barely mentioned. As it turns out, there was a reason for that: some of the new Pixel smartphones‘ best features won’t be arriving in the new OS. This includes features like Google Assistant, the built-in customer support service, unlimited and free backup of full-res photos and videos, Smart Storage, and more.

Details on which features were “Pixel-only” were previously reported by Android Police, citing a changelog provided by a Google source. Google confirmed to us those changes are accurate.

Some of the omissions make sense. For example, only Pixel phones will ship with the new, “quick switch” adapter that makes it easier to move your data from iPhone to Android. That requires hardware in the form of the adapter cable.

The Pixel’s Camera app is also tied to the phones’ new hardware – that is, the Pixel sports a 12.3-megapixel rear camera which lets you shoot 4K video, and offers special modes like “Smartburst” for taking several photos in succession, among other things.

Plus, the Pixel features a Sensor Hub processor with tightly integrated sensors and connectivity (i.e., Wi-Fi, cellular, GPS).

One could even argue that bundling the free, unlimited photo and video backup service, via Google Photos, is just good marketing. It makes the Pixel smartphone more appealing to photo enthusiasts, who are looking for a reason to upgrade their current Android device, or perhaps pick the Pixel over the iPhone 7, where iCloud storage still costs money.


Source

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
October 08 2016 20:12 GMT
#1314
https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Pixel-smartphone-camera-review-At-the-top

this is cool
I hardly use the camera on my phone tho
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
October 09 2016 23:31 GMT
#1315
I just preordered a black 32gb pixel XL on project FI and got a free daydream, super excited for it. Sorry stealthblue your negativity doesn't resonate with me.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 10 2016 23:02 GMT
#1316
WTF is going on?!

The Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) is now recommending that the safest course of action for customers with any version of the Samsung Galaxy Note7 is to power down their device and return it. We are urging our customers to follow this guidance and bring all models of the Note7 back to a T-Mobile store for a full refund. Customers can apply the refund towards the purchase of any device in T-Mobile’s inventory as a replacement. In addition, customers can return any accessories they purchased from T-Mobile for use with the Note7 for a full refund. We’ll waive any restocking charges, and customers who purchased during pre-order can keep the free Netflix subscription and Gear Fit or SD card they received.


Source


AT&T is discontinuing all sales and exchanges of Samsung Galaxy Note 7 smartphones following a number of fires caused by supposedly "safe" phones that had been replaced under recall.

"Based on recent reports, we’re no longer exchanging new Note 7s at this time, pending further investigation of these reported incidents," said an AT&T spokesperson in a statement to The Verge. "We still encourage customers with a recalled Note 7 to visit an AT&T location to exchange that device for another Samsung smartphone or other smartphone of their choice."

All four of the big US carriers have said they will allow returns of any Note 7, but AT&T is the first to stop sales of the device entirely. The US Consumer Product Safety Commission has said it is "moving expeditiously" to investigate the fires and it seems likely that a full recall of all Galaxy Note 7 devices is imminent.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
October 10 2016 23:54 GMT
#1317
^ isn't that really bad for samsung? It must be costing hundreds of millions
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 11 2016 03:20 GMT
#1318
We are working with relevant regulatory bodies to investigate the recently reported cases involving the Galaxy Note7. Because consumers’ safety remains our top priority, Samsung will ask all carrier and retail partners globally to stop sales and exchanges of the Galaxy Note7 while the investigation is taking place.

We remain committed to working diligently with appropriate regulatory authorities to take all necessary steps to resolve the situation. Consumers with either an original Galaxy Note7 or replacement Galaxy Note7 device should power down and stop using the device and take advantage of the remedies available.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
October 11 2016 06:50 GMT
#1319
What's a great Android file manager app? Anyone using Total Commander?
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
October 11 2016 07:08 GMT
#1320
Solid Explorer
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