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Poll: Your initial reaction upon glanced at the thread title:"Ohhhhh daaaaaang 38 separate studios went bankrupt?? Must read more" (20) 57% "Oh no, 38 Studios -- that one company that made a game or two -- went under!" (15) 43% 35 total votes Your vote: Your initial reaction upon glanced at the thread title: (Vote): "Oh no, 38 Studios -- that one company that made a game or two -- went under!"
(Vote): "Ohhhhh daaaaaang 38 separate studios went bankrupt?? Must read more"
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On June 08 2012 04:26 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
I saw this on on Day9 too. He interviewed Schlling and McFarlane and they all tried to hype it up. Watched some play through but didn't look like anything interesting.
Yeah I remember Sean doing a segment with them in the Games and Sports section a while back. I knew Schilling was one of the go to guys meh.
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Curt Shilling is a dick, he got on Obama's ass for government intervention with bankruptcy etc then cried to mama when he went backrupt
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I followed this story fairly closely and it seems that Kurt Schilling's grand aspirations got in the way of important financial and business decisions that ultimately brought the entire studio to closure.
While I have great admiration for people who publicly speak of their own dreams and ambitions (Peter Molyneux is a great example of such a person), I find it a little hard to sympathize with Schilling because it was his decisions that caused the unemployment of literally hundreds of people in this studio. It's fine for someone like him to speak of his ambitions, it's another to bring misfortune to others in the pursue of it.
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Bought the game because of Day9, but never really played far into it. Sucks the company went bankrupt though, and that taxpayers have to pay for it now (I think?). I don't know anything about economics or whatever, though, so don't quote me on it, haha.
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Wow crazy story. I knew the game was doing bad but not this bad.
Schilling running off with taxpayer money.
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Aww man :/ that's unfortunate to hear!
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I wish EA would go bankrupt or do some restructuring at least but alas, their cod and sims series are too strong!
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On July 31 2012 14:16 StateofReverie wrote:
I wish EA would go bankrupt or do some restructuring at least but alas, their cod and sims series are too strong!
Activision owns CoD
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B...b...but...Day9 promoted it, shouldn't it be the bestest of games ever? :'(((
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On July 31 2012 13:13 Nos- wrote:
I find it a little hard to sympathize with Schilling because it was his decisions that caused the unemployment of literally hundreds of people in this studio. It's fine for someone like him to speak of his ambitions, it's another to bring misfortune to others in the pursue of it.
Could you please elaborate on what decisions and which ambitions brought misfortune to others ? It's my understanding that he invested millions of $'s and lost most of his personal fortune trying to create something. Of course, those millions went to pay salaries of people who he provided employment for.
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On July 31 2012 14:33 Kaitlin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 13:13 Nos- wrote:
I find it a little hard to sympathize with Schilling because it was his decisions that caused the unemployment of literally hundreds of people in this studio. It's fine for someone like him to speak of his ambitions, it's another to bring misfortune to others in the pursue of it. Could you please elaborate on what decisions and which ambitions brought misfortune to others ? It's my understanding that he invested millions of $'s and lost most of his personal fortune trying to create something. Of course, those millions went to pay salaries of people who he provided employment for.
Reposting a link someone else posted a few pages back.
It's a pretty good read on what happened. http://www.bostonmagazine.com/articles/2012/07/38-studios-end-game/
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On June 08 2012 09:39 RavenLoud wrote:
I heard the combat was really good, but I didn't buy it because of EA and Origins.
I won't touch any EA account/Origins game even if you give them to me for free.
So, no Dead Space 1/2? Even though DS2 on Steam is a terrible version and the Origin version is 100 times better?
As much as I dislike Origin and EA in general, avoiding something that can provide a clear benefit just makes you look like a child.
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On July 31 2012 14:36 rebdomine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 14:33 Kaitlin wrote:On July 31 2012 13:13 Nos- wrote:
I find it a little hard to sympathize with Schilling because it was his decisions that caused the unemployment of literally hundreds of people in this studio. It's fine for someone like him to speak of his ambitions, it's another to bring misfortune to others in the pursue of it. Could you please elaborate on what decisions and which ambitions brought misfortune to others ? It's my understanding that he invested millions of $'s and lost most of his personal fortune trying to create something. Of course, those millions went to pay salaries of people who he provided employment for. Reposting a link someone else posted a few pages back. It's a pretty good read on what happened. http://www.bostonmagazine.com/articles/2012/07/38-studios-end-game/
Basically Curt Schilling had no idea how to run a business.
I have not finished this particular article yet but so far it's been a very detailed re-account of what happened. If you're interested in knowing more I'd suggest reading the entire thing.
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Why gosh the last lines of that article, like out of a novel.
So sad, but well, if even part of that article is what happened, not really surprising.
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On July 31 2012 14:52 Nos- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 14:36 rebdomine wrote:On July 31 2012 14:33 Kaitlin wrote:On July 31 2012 13:13 Nos- wrote:
I find it a little hard to sympathize with Schilling because it was his decisions that caused the unemployment of literally hundreds of people in this studio. It's fine for someone like him to speak of his ambitions, it's another to bring misfortune to others in the pursue of it. Could you please elaborate on what decisions and which ambitions brought misfortune to others ? It's my understanding that he invested millions of $'s and lost most of his personal fortune trying to create something. Of course, those millions went to pay salaries of people who he provided employment for. Reposting a link someone else posted a few pages back. It's a pretty good read on what happened. http://www.bostonmagazine.com/articles/2012/07/38-studios-end-game/ Basically Curt Schilling had no idea how to run a business. I have not finished this particular article yet but so far it's been a very detailed re-account of what happened. If you're interested in knowing more I'd suggest reading the entire thing.
It's an interesting look into what happens when a video game fan with a large checkbook and no experience attempts to make the decisions. Some people around here and other game sites should take notes. It can't be all about the employees and the game, you can't have everything.
On the story, I enjoyed it, but I am conflicted. On the one hand, I of course admire his attempt, even if he failed, to make something awesome. And, in fairness, for the first game a studio put out, Kingdoms of Amalur wasn't terrible. And given proper management, it possibly would've made a decent amount of money for the company.
But on the other hand, I'm disgusted that he'd ask for help from the government. This is not capitalism. This is not what you believed in before you started a company. You've got to be more of a man than to waste people's money, against their will, on a stupid game. On that hand, I find it despicable. You are the reason people don't believe in capitalism anymore.
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