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Iteachextra
46 Posts
Soucrce: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/girl-youngest-national-spelling-bee-16443815#.T8V-d1Kncdl I find it impressive that homeschooling can be a highly effective means of education if implemented properly. Do you think she has any shot of winning? | ||
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Klyberess
Sweden345 Posts
On the other hand, American homeschooling mostly seems to be an excuse to indoctrinate children. Surely there's a middle ground somewhere, though! I also find it humorous that you misspelled "qualifies" in the title  As for her winning, hardly, but that's not really important in comparison, is it? (Also, what's "vaquero"?) | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
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Anxiety
United States650 Posts
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TheRPGAddict
United States1403 Posts
On May 30 2012 14:13 Klyberess wrote: Idk about that. They said her mom was a professor ( aka someone highly educated, I assume she has a doctorate ). That isn't your average homeschooling mom. That's quite impressive indeed, and definitely something that speaks for homeschooling. She's obviously talented as well, but it seems strange to require children such as her to go through school like everyone else, with no consideration for her talent. I guess she's lucky not to be a Swede, as I don't believe we allow homeschooling at all (I could be wrong). On the other hand, American homeschooling mostly seems to be an excuse to indoctrinate children. Surely there's a middle ground somewhere, though! I also find it humorous that you misspelled "qualifies" in the title As for her winning, hardly, but that's not really important in comparison, is it? (Also, what's "vaquero"?) | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
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Spiffeh
United States830 Posts
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manarchist
17 Posts
She is gonna have such a tough time dating. Boys are going to bore her to death! I cannot think of a better way to stunt a child’s mental development than subjecting them to a public education system. She is very fortunate to have a mother who cares enough to provide her with the attention she deserves, and has the means to do so. Sadly, homeschooling is used by some individuals to both indoctrinate their children into their way of thinking, and to prevent them from being exposed to counter points of view. That being said, in the US that seems to be the rare exception, and it is foolish to think that government school systems do not indoctrinate children in the exact same manner. (I can’t recall any discussions or lessons on the benefits or arguments for communism, anarchy, or fascism ever taking place in all may thousands of hours in a classroom, in spite of the fact that there are libraries worth of works written by undeniably great minds dedicated to each.) I am not sure about Sweden, but I do believe it is outlawed in Germany. I think for fear that parents will try to regress their children to ideas that were popular 70 years ago. | ||
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Aphasie
Norway474 Posts
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
I'm pretty sure there was a girl who was home-schooled in England and was the youngest child to enter Cambridge or oxford at the time....is now working as a stripper as she hates education and using her mind because she was forced to do it all day every day. School isn't just about the grades, it's a social experience....there should be ways to fast track kids or at least get them into schools with similar highly bright students | ||
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Klyberess
Sweden345 Posts
On May 30 2012 14:23 TheRPGAddict wrote: Idk about that. They said her mom was a professor ( aka someone highly educated, I assume she has a doctorate ). That isn't your average homeschooling mom. I agree, but you can hardly allow homeschooling exclusively for professors, nor can you assume professors won't indoctrinate their children. It seems to have worked fine in this particular case, though. On May 30 2012 14:48 OptimusYale wrote: Well I don't agree with homeschooling in the slightest, and to be honest I don't care how smart it makes the kids eventually they'll rebel/want to socialise and its over. I'm pretty sure there was a girl who was home-schooled in England and was the youngest child to enter Cambridge or oxford at the time....is now working as a stripper as she hates education and using her mind because she was forced to do it all day every day. School isn't just about the grades, it's a social experience....there should be ways to fast track kids or at least get them into schools with similar highly bright students I'm not convinced specific schools for bright students is any better of an idea. Seems to breed elitism if nothing else. I don't think you can assume that homeschooling necessarily means no socialisation and being forced to study all day every day, either. | ||
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
Edit: Ahaha, just noticed. She's wearing a black and yellow striped shirt in the video display picture. How subtly awesome! | ||
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manarchist
17 Posts
On May 30 2012 15:01 itkovian wrote: Yeesh thats young, she's got an illustrious spelling bee career ahead of her rofl. I wonder what affect this will have throughout her life. Will she always be the "spelling-bee" kid as she grows up? That seems like it would be a hard image to shrug off. Edit: Ahaha, just noticed. She's wearing a black and yellow striped shirt in the video display picture. How subtly awesome! I suspect she’ll be known throughout her life for the many different hats she’ll wear, be it spelling bee champ, anchor on her medley relay team, mother, or astrobiologist. I don’t know anyone that is identified by what they did before the age of ten. | ||
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friedchicken
United States143 Posts
On May 30 2012 10:59 Iteachextra wrote: I find it impressive that homeschooling can be a highly effective means of education if implemented properly. I might argue that homeschooling is one of the best forms of education. That said most people just choose to homeschool because they don't want their children taught evolution. EDIT: This is pretty cool and I hope she gets far!! <3 | ||
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
On May 30 2012 15:12 manarchist wrote: I suspect she’ll be known throughout her life for the many different hats she’ll wear, be it spelling bee champ, anchor on her medley relay team, mother, or astrobiologist. I don’t know anyone that is identified by what they did before the age of ten. I know of a few people that were defined since childhood, but they're all psychotic. Nothing positive. This is pretty cool though, just shows that there is hope in this world and not all the kids are rotten. | ||
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MayorITC
Korea (South)798 Posts
On May 30 2012 14:48 OptimusYale wrote: Well I don't agree with homeschooling in the slightest, and to be honest I don't care how smart it makes the kids eventually they'll rebel/want to socialise and its over. What makes you think home-schooled children don't socialize already? It's not like after their lessons they are locked away in their room until Aunt Petunia comes to visit. Every article I've read states that most kids have no problems making the transition to a traditional school. Most of the problems home-schooled children have when transitioning to institutionalized schools are related more to protocol than social issues. As for the rebellion comment, I won't disagree on that. Home-schooled kids rebel. And so does every other kid. It's called being a kid. On May 30 2012 14:48 OptimusYale wrote: I'm pretty sure there was a girl who was home-schooled in England and was the youngest child to enter Cambridge or oxford at the time....is now working as a stripper as she hates education and using her mind because she was forced to do it all day every day. And there are plenty of strippers who never went to school. I don't see what your point is. Going to Cambridge at a young age did not make her become a stripper if that is what you're implying. Edit: I just read up on the "Cambridge child prodigy who became a stripper." You conveniently left out the part about her running away from home because her father was physically abusive and convicted for sexually assaulting two other girls. Yea.... I don't think it was going to Cambridge that turned her into a stripper. You also forgot to mention that being a stripper is not a long-time plan of hers because she's studying to earn a masters degree in Economics at the same time. However, since she cut off all ties with her family, she has no financial support from them to help pay for her living expenses. | ||
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Bashnek
Australia895 Posts
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
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tryummm
774 Posts
On May 30 2012 14:48 OptimusYale wrote: Well I don't agree with homeschooling in the slightest, and to be honest I don't care how smart it makes the kids eventually they'll rebel/want to socialise and its over. I'm pretty sure there was a girl who was home-schooled in England and was the youngest child to enter Cambridge or oxford at the time....is now working as a stripper as she hates education and using her mind because she was forced to do it all day every day. School isn't just about the grades, it's a social experience....there should be ways to fast track kids or at least get them into schools with similar highly bright students Have you ever talked to someone who was home schooled? In the USA there are homeschooling programs where you meet up with a study partner(s) and/or go to group meetings where you interact with other children. Moreover, its not only smart children that are home schooled. Every type of student from your slacker to brilliant students are home schooled. At my school I know many intellectually average engineering and mathematics students who were home schooled for 2-3 hours a day reading textbooks and completing various assignments plus they got the entire summer off like other kids. Numerous home schooled children also attend summer camps, boy scouts, etc... A majority of students who are home schooled don't sit inside and grind away all day long...in fact its often less time consuming than public education because of all the wasted time in public schools. Just think about how much time you spent not actually doing anything productive towards learning academic study materials in elementary school through high school. | ||
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On May 30 2012 15:12 manarchist wrote: I suspect she’ll be known throughout her life for the many different hats she’ll wear, be it spelling bee champ, anchor on her medley relay team, mother, or astrobiologist. I don’t know anyone that is identified by what they did before the age of ten. Prodigies are constantly identified in that way and it can cause a lot of pain for them. Many become accustomed to the adulation they receive and always being considered so exceptional. Then when they become older no one is that impressed anymore because there are so many other talents of the same age. A prodigy that underachieves and melds into the field is such a common occurrence in classical music and chess that it's almost a cliche. | ||
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