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6 Year Qualifys For Scripps National Spelling Bee - Page 2

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Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 07:14:59
May 30 2012 07:14 GMT
#21
Saying home schooling is "highly effective" is like saying:
- I find it amazing that dropping out of college is a good way to make billions from selling software/hardware
- I find it amazing that having bad grades in high school is the best way to find a theory that corrects newtonian physics with a whole new theory

Its no THE CAUSE of her being smart, she is obviously smart/gifted... or how the hell you want to call it, but is isn't DUE to home schooling... they simply home schooled her cuz the things she did weren't something kindergartens could support.
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
ThatGuyDoMo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia516 Posts
May 30 2012 07:26 GMT
#22
You only hear about the successes in home schooling.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 30 2012 07:29 GMT
#23
On May 30 2012 16:14 Aterons_toss wrote:
Saying home schooling is "highly effective" is like saying:
- I find it amazing that dropping out of college is a good way to make billions from selling software/hardware
- I find it amazing that having bad grades in high school is the best way to find a theory that corrects newtonian physics with a whole new theory

Its no THE CAUSE of her being smart, she is obviously smart/gifted... or how the hell you want to call it, but is isn't DUE to home schooling... they simply home schooled her cuz the things she did weren't something kindergartens could support.

No, it's not the cause, but it keeps her mind from stagnating as much as it would otherwise in a public school setting imo. It's highly effective in her case, because it helps her develop her mental abilities more than kindergarten would. Yes, a lot of it is her, but a lot of it is also her environment as well. There are tons of young, bright, naturally gifted kids who are held back and eventually just blur into the crowd, because schools simply don't have the resources to handle them properly; in their cases, home schooling is just downright better for them in terms of intellect development.
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
May 30 2012 07:34 GMT
#24
Reading your post I wasn't too impressed with the fact that a 6 year old can spell advanced words properly. BUt when watching the video I realised how articulate and intelligent she came off in her interviews. I don't think I've ever seen or heard a kid anywhere near that age be so intelligent and well spoken.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3814 Posts
May 30 2012 07:39 GMT
#25
I never really understood why Americans (I do believe you are the only ones doing this, although I am not sure) have contests in who can spell better. Sure it is useful, but they spell really weird words which have close to no use in everyday life. Seems like a big waste, however GL to the prodigy.
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3814 Posts
May 30 2012 07:42 GMT
#26
On May 30 2012 16:14 Aterons_toss wrote:
Saying home schooling is "highly effective" is like saying:
- I find it amazing that dropping out of college is a good way to make billions from selling software/hardware
- I find it amazing that having bad grades in high school is the best way to find a theory that corrects newtonian physics with a whole new theory

Its no THE CAUSE of her being smart, she is obviously smart/gifted... or how the hell you want to call it, but is isn't DUE to home schooling... they simply home schooled her cuz the things she did weren't something kindergartens could support.


Correlation =/= Causality
So you are right

This reminds me of the statistic showing the correlation between Freeway/Highway death rates and the import of oranges from Mexico to America (I think), which was 95% or something.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
May 30 2012 07:47 GMT
#27
Wow, best of luck to her. It would be absolutely awesome if she could win the whole thing lol :D
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
May 30 2012 07:55 GMT
#28
Children are terrifying, obviously a pre-emptive strike is needed.
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
May 30 2012 08:13 GMT
#29
I was once a Speling Bee champion
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
May 30 2012 08:18 GMT
#30
Big achievements at very young age. I wonder what her IQ is
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 30 2012 08:21 GMT
#31
Wasn't there a south park episode on this? xD
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Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
May 30 2012 08:28 GMT
#32
On May 30 2012 17:13 theBALLS wrote:
I was once a Speling Bee champion


The irony is strong in this one
Logic is Overrated
manarchist
Profile Joined May 2012
17 Posts
May 30 2012 08:55 GMT
#33
A couple of words on spelling from the world's first spelling master, Mark Twain:

I have had an aversion to good spelling for sixty years and more, merely for the reason that when I was a boy there was not a thing I could do creditably except spell according to the book. It was a poor and mean distinction and I early learned to disenjoy it. I suppose that this is because the ability to spell correctly is a talent, not an acquirement. There is some dignity about an acquirement, because it is a product of your own labor. It is wages earned, whereas to be able to do a thing merely by the grace of God and not by your own effort transfers the distinction to our heavenly home--where possibly it is a matter of pride and satisfaction but it leaves you naked and bankrupt.

...ours is a mongrel language which started with a child's vocabulary of three hundred words, and now consists of two hundred and twenty-five thousand; the whole lot, with the exception of the original and legitimate three hundred, borrowed, stolen, smouched from every unwatched language under the sun, the spelling of each individual word of the lot locating the source of the theft and preserving the memory of the revered crime.

I don't see any use in having a uniform and arbitrary way of spelling words. We might as well make all clothes alike and cook all dishes alike. Sameness is tiresome; variety is pleasing. I have a correspondent whose letters are always a refreshment to me, there is such a breezy unfettered originality about his orthography. He always spells Kow with a large K. Now that is just as good as to spell it with a small one. It is better. It gives the imagination a broader field, a wider scope. It suggests to the mind a grand, vague, impressive new kind of a cow.

Why, there isn't a man who doesn't have to throw out about fifteen hundred words a day when he writes his letters because he can't spell them! It's like trying to do a St. Vitus dance with wooden legs.

...simplified spelling is all right, but, like chastity, you can carry it too far.

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God, I look forward to having kids so I can read Tom Sawyer to 'em, n-words and all.
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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 10:07:42
May 30 2012 10:06 GMT
#34
I never understood the anglo obsession with spelling contests

I am fairly sure that we have no spellingbee here
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
May 30 2012 10:24 GMT
#35
If the one teaching a child is competent there's no doubt in my mind homeschooling is a more efficient way of teaching someone.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
May 30 2012 11:49 GMT
#36
On May 30 2012 10:59 Iteachextra wrote:I find it impressive that homeschooling can be a highly effective means of education if implemented properly.
Do you think she has any shot of winning?

I learned reading by myself at 3 years old, I spent the next 6 years reading every book I could during classes. Homeschooling has little to do with her results, her brain construction is. Nevertheless homeschooling can be better for gifted children as long as they can have social contact on the side.
Hertzy
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland355 Posts
May 30 2012 12:06 GMT
#37
On May 30 2012 14:49 Klyberess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 14:48 OptimusYale wrote:
Well I don't agree with homeschooling in the slightest, and to be honest I don't care how smart it makes the kids eventually they'll rebel/want to socialise and its over.

I'm pretty sure there was a girl who was home-schooled in England and was the youngest child to enter Cambridge or oxford at the time....is now working as a stripper as she hates education and using her mind because she was forced to do it all day every day.

School isn't just about the grades, it's a social experience....there should be ways to fast track kids or at least get them into schools with similar highly bright students

I'm not convinced specific schools for bright students is any better of an idea. Seems to breed elitism if nothing else.

I don't think you can assume that homeschooling necessarily means no socialisation and being forced to study all day every day, either.


I disagree about special schools for bright students breeding elitism. I base my opinion on my own experiences going to high school in such a school. Sure, everyone was aware that they were brighter than others, but at least none of us were constantly the top of the class in everything without even really trying. In fact, the 'mundane' school system's failure to make me work for those grades left me unprepared for University, and would have left me even worse off if it hadn't been for the 'special' high school.
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Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
May 30 2012 12:32 GMT
#38
Damn that's impressive. But I've always found spelling bee contests to be an American oddity.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Seiferz
Profile Joined May 2011
United States640 Posts
May 30 2012 13:56 GMT
#39
On May 30 2012 21:32 Kukaracha wrote:
Damn that's impressive. But I've always found spelling bee contests to be an American oddity.


It's an intellectual challenge. Spelling is far deeper than memorizing a bunch of words. It may seem odd, but it's actually quite useful.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
May 30 2012 14:00 GMT
#40
Vaquero?

Kid is amazing.
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