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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
CajunMan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States823 Posts
October 12 2012 01:58 GMT
#15061
On October 12 2012 10:56 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 10:54 CajunMan wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:52 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Jesus this moderator wont let Ryan talk at all.


I wonder why that is it couldn't be http://seattletimes.com/html/entertainment/2019397448_apusdebateraddatz.html

NoOOOOOO not that Obama couldn't know her personally.


Standard nonsense attack. Attack the points raised not the credibility of the people giving them. Doing so just makes you look like an ass unwilling to respond to arguments.


Attacking me personally does not make this fact any less true not arguing against my point makes you look like an ass and unwilling to respond to arguments.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 12 2012 01:58 GMT
#15062
On October 12 2012 10:57 Deathmanbob wrote:
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On October 12 2012 10:55 xDaunt wrote:
Ryan is not getting to say anything at all. This debate is a farce.


ryan is speaking just fine, his time and bidens time is almost the same (i wonder if CNN is counting bidens over speaking though)

There's no way you could possibly reach the conclusion their time is equal unless you discount all the interruptions.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
October 12 2012 01:58 GMT
#15063
Before they started the question about Afghanistan.

Biden: 26:03
Ryan: 24:46

They've had equal speaking time as much as it seems they haven't. Yes they tick up the clock when Biden or Ryan interrupts and both clocks can go at the same time when they talk over each other.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
sevencck
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada705 Posts
October 12 2012 01:58 GMT
#15064
Although I dislike Paul Ryan and the Republican party, I feel like the moderator is favoring Biden slightly.
I like to think that the moon is there even if I am not looking at it. -Albert Einstein
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
October 12 2012 01:58 GMT
#15065
On October 12 2012 10:56 StarVe wrote:
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On October 12 2012 10:53 Serinox wrote:
Is there any other stream than youtube? YouTube Live is very bad with the proxy I have to use because I'm in Germany >.>

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2012/oct/11/vp-debate-ryan-biden-live

Oh god, thank you so much!
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
October 12 2012 01:58 GMT
#15066
On October 12 2012 10:55 xDaunt wrote:
Ryan is not getting to say anything at all. This debate is a farce.

lol
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
October 12 2012 01:58 GMT
#15067
On October 12 2012 10:58 xDaunt wrote:
The fix is in for this debate. The moderator is a hack. Biden is just talking over Ryan. This is not going to play well with the public. I'm sure that the MSNBC crowd will jizz their pants about what is happening. I doubt anyone else will.


really? i think you are really taking this the wrong way, i think it will play well with independents.
No Artosis, you are robin
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 12 2012 01:59 GMT
#15068
big plays biden big plays...
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 12 2012 01:59 GMT
#15069
On October 12 2012 10:56 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 10:55 Praetorial wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:55 xDaunt wrote:
Ryan is not getting to say anything at all. This debate is a farce.


Ryan, oddly enough, has had about equal speaking time.

Bullshit, Biden has been talking over him for the past 10-15 mins.


Meh, this is the debate. You still keeping score?

I like this. If Ryan's statements can't stand up to Biden and a moderator I don't care if it's biased (it is). If you have faith in your plan to stand up to scrutiny it wouldn't matter if everything you said got fact-checked and called out by your opponent and the moderator.

Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 12 2012 01:59 GMT
#15070
On October 12 2012 10:57 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 10:55 xDaunt wrote:
Ryan is not getting to say anything at all. This debate is a farce.


ryan is speaking just fine, his time and bidens time is almost the same (i wonder if CNN is counting bidens over speaking though)

They do count it.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
October 12 2012 01:59 GMT
#15071
Now we get to see if Ryan will know the difference between Al Qaeda Iraq and Al Qaeda central.
Razakel
Profile Joined April 2011
Ireland466 Posts
October 12 2012 01:59 GMT
#15072
On October 12 2012 10:58 xDaunt wrote:
The fix is in for this debate. The moderator is a hack. Biden is just talking over Ryan. This is not going to play well with the public. I'm sure that the MSNBC crowd will jizz their pants about what is happening. I doubt anyone else will.


I'd prefer Obama win, but I have to agree with you, Biden is talking over him too much and the moderator isn't stopping him
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
October 12 2012 01:59 GMT
#15073
It seems like every time Ryan wants to say something the moderator wants to move on, but Biden can always say something.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
October 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#15074
On October 12 2012 10:56 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 10:54 CajunMan wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:52 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Jesus this moderator wont let Ryan talk at all.


I wonder why that is it couldn't be http://seattletimes.com/html/entertainment/2019397448_apusdebateraddatz.html

NoOOOOOO not that Obama couldn't know her personally.


Standard nonsense attack. Attack the points raised not the credibility of the people giving them. Doing so just makes you look like an ass unwilling to respond to arguments.

He's saying that she is biased towards one of the debaters, which, if you've been watching, she is. What else is there for him to say ?
Harbinger631
Profile Joined September 2010
United States376 Posts
October 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#15075
Such a bummer, this debate started out so well, then Biden kept talking during Ryan's every 5th word.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
October 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#15076
On October 12 2012 10:57 sc2superfan101 wrote:
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On October 12 2012 10:55 acker wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:54 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:52 acker wrote:
From the Economist:

"....Rosen concluded that Romney could pull off his tax plan without losing revenue assuming an extra 3 percent “growth effect” to the economy resulting from Romney’s rate cuts. That’s an extremely aggressive assumption, and in conflict with recent experience."

actually, that assumption is a pretty safe one, and it is a lot safer than the 0% the TPC report assumed.

TPC did not assume a 0% increase, it was 15% for the total tax reform per Mankiw's model. Mankiw is the econ advisor for Romney.

Very different from +3% to GDP. +3% GDP is ridiculous.

i suggest you actually read Rosen's report.

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On October 12 2012 10:55 oneofthem wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:54 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:52 acker wrote:
From the Economist:

"....Rosen concluded that Romney could pull off his tax plan without losing revenue assuming an extra 3 percent “growth effect” to the economy resulting from Romney’s rate cuts. That’s an extremely aggressive assumption, and in conflict with recent experience."

actually, that assumption is a pretty safe one, and it is a lot safer than the 0% the TPC report assumed.

then you add in rosen's cutting of all exemptions between 100-200k, oh and estate tax.

you should definitely read Rosen's report.


I suggest you pay attention to the assumptions made in his report.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/09/27/wonkblogs-comprehensive-guide-to-the-debate-over-romneys-tax-plan/


Rosen bases his growth estimates on a study of Romney’s plan done by Rice economist John Diamond. Diamond assumes that Romney’s plan is implemented under conditions of full employment. That’s important because it means that if you eliminate tax breaks for one industry and they have to fire workers, those workers can relatively easily find jobs in another industry. But barring a miraculous labor market recovery in the next few months, that won’t be the situation when Romney takes office. In the current world, wiping out tax breaks for an industry could lead to displaced workers who simply join the ranks of the unemployed, dragging down growth.

But more damaging for Rosen’s case is that Diamond’s study assumes that Romney’s plan is revenue-neutral before you take economic growth into account.* That is, Diamond assumes that the tax cuts have been fully paid for first, and that’s part of why they do so much for growth. Rosen, conversely, is making the case that you don’t need to fully pay for the tax cuts because growth will fill in the gap. So the Diamond-Romney tax plan and the Rosen-Romney tax plan are quite different, and growth estimates that apply to the first don’t necessarily apply to the second.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
October 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#15077
On October 12 2012 10:55 xDaunt wrote:
Ryan is not getting to say anything at all. This debate is a farce.

he's out by like a minute? lol it was 25/24 last time I checked.
FoTG fighting!
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#15078
On October 12 2012 10:58 CajunMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 10:56 Risen wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:54 CajunMan wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:52 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Jesus this moderator wont let Ryan talk at all.


I wonder why that is it couldn't be http://seattletimes.com/html/entertainment/2019397448_apusdebateraddatz.html

NoOOOOOO not that Obama couldn't know her personally.


Standard nonsense attack. Attack the points raised not the credibility of the people giving them. Doing so just makes you look like an ass unwilling to respond to arguments.


Attacking me personally does not make this fact any less true not arguing against my point makes you look like an ass and unwilling to respond to arguments.


Meh, I prefer arguments over ideas, not people. I think arguing over people is for weak bitches. To each his own.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#15079
i want joe fucking biden batting for the yankees.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#15080


JOE BIDEN PUT THE TEAM ON HIS BACK

PAUL RYAN, ONE OF THE HARDEST HITTING DEBATERS IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
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