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acker
United States2958 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:54 sc2superfan101 wrote: actually, that assumption is a pretty safe one, and it is a lot safer than the 0% the TPC report assumed. TPC did not assume a 0% increase, it was 15% for the total tax reform per Mankiw's model. Mankiw is the econ advisor for Romney. Very different from +3% to GDP. +3% GDP is ridiculous. | ||
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Razakel
Ireland466 Posts
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:55 xDaunt wrote: Ryan is not getting to say anything at all. This debate is a farce. Ryan, oddly enough, has had about equal speaking time. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:54 ticklishmusic wrote: ryan is actually getting plenty of speaking time, he's talking in that supposedly slow but persuasive and urgent way, but biden is being more assertive. Ryan is getting less than half his normal speaking time because Biden is talking over him and the moderator cuts him off to let Biden speak. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:54 sc2superfan101 wrote: actually, that assumption is a pretty safe one, and it is a lot safer than the 0% the TPC report assumed. then you add in rosen's cutting of all exemptions between 100-200k, oh and estate tax. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:54 acker wrote: Why the fuck couldn't Obama do this? If you believe Al Gore it was the climate.  | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:54 CajunMan wrote: I wonder why that is it couldn't be http://seattletimes.com/html/entertainment/2019397448_apusdebateraddatz.html NoOOOOOO not that Obama couldn't know her personally. Standard nonsense attack. Attack the points raised not the credibility of the people giving them. Doing so just makes you look like an ass unwilling to respond to arguments. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:54 Joe Biden said: Oh now you're Jack Kennedy?. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:55 Praetorial wrote: Ryan, oddly enough, has had about equal speaking time. Bullshit, Biden has been talking over him for the past 10-15 mins. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:53 Serinox wrote: Is there any other stream than youtube? YouTube Live is very bad with the proxy I have to use because I'm in Germany >.> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2012/oct/11/vp-debate-ryan-biden-live | ||
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:55 TheRabidDeer wrote: Ryan is getting less than half his normal speaking time because Biden is talking over him and the moderator cuts him off to let Biden speak. No he isn't. Ryan literally has 1min less speaking time out of ~25min that they've each had. | ||
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Deathmanbob
United States2356 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:55 xDaunt wrote: Ryan is not getting to say anything at all. This debate is a farce. ryan is speaking just fine, his time and bidens time is almost the same (i wonder if CNN is counting bidens over speaking though) | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:55 TheRabidDeer wrote: Ryan is getting less than half his normal speaking time because Biden is talking over him and the moderator cuts him off to let Biden speak. That doesn't excuse that in his half time he's said very, very little of substance. | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:54 jdseemoreglass wrote: Yeah, Biden interrupting and talking over him, trying to out yell him even. Almost unwatchable. Ok I was at first thinking "well Romney did too" but youre right. This is ridiculous and the moderator keeps helping Biden. I want Biden to win, but legitimately | ||
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:55 acker wrote: TPC did not assume a 0% increase, it was 15% for the total tax reform per Mankiw's model. Mankiw is the econ advisor for Romney. Very different from +3% to GDP. +3% GDP is ridiculous. i suggest you actually read Rosen's report. On October 12 2012 10:55 oneofthem wrote: then you add in rosen's cutting of all exemptions between 100-200k, oh and estate tax. you should definitely read Rosen's report. | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:55 Praetorial wrote: Ryan, oddly enough, has had about equal speaking time. Maybe that's true, but like a 1/4th of it is trying to say the same thing because he can't get it out due to Biden speaking over him. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On October 12 2012 10:54 sc2superfan101 wrote: actually, that assumption is a pretty safe one, and it is a lot safer than the 0% the TPC report assumed. Even with that highly optimistic assumption of growth Rosen still requires tax raises on 100k-200k families, which is middle class. | ||
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