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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
October 12 2012 01:53 GMT
#15021
Ok Biden is interrupting too much and the moderator is allowing him to do it. I dont like this
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
October 12 2012 01:53 GMT
#15022
Is there any other stream than youtube? YouTube Live is very bad with the proxy I have to use because I'm in Germany >.>
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 12 2012 01:53 GMT
#15023
Nice debate strategy by Biden. Don't even let Ryan talk. I can already imagine where SNL is going with their skit.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 01:54:05
October 12 2012 01:53 GMT
#15024
Needs reposting:

I've already called Romney's sudden and new claim that he will not reduce taxes on the rich adding another constraint to an already impossible math problem.

But it seems that the Washington Post has an even simpler and easier way to explain it:

[Romney says]:
“Well, I’ve made it pretty clear that my principles are, number one, simplify the code; number two, create incentives for small businesses and large businesses to grow; number three, don’t reduce the burden on high income taxpayers; and number four, remove the burden somewhat from middle income people.”

[...]

For some people, Romney says he’ll keep taxes the same. For everyone else, he’ll lower them.

I’ll repeat that just to make sure everyone gets it. Some have the same taxes; some have less. I’ll even put Romney’s pledge in equation form, for those mathematically inclined:

0 + (-X) = 0, where X > 0

That simply can’t work. Romney can’t do what he says and yet keep revenues the same.

The full article is here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romneys-tax-mythology-made-simple/2012/10/10/6f09c24a-1306-11e2-9a39-1f5a7f6fe945_blog.html
Zen5034
Profile Joined July 2011
United States384 Posts
October 12 2012 01:53 GMT
#15025
On October 12 2012 10:53 Romantic wrote:
Ryan is getting destroyed. His style is painful to watch. Biden interrupting and laughing is just annoying. I don't think I can watch this any more.

Pretty much this, now I'm just F5ing this thread.
Jaedong!
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
October 12 2012 01:54 GMT
#15026
On October 12 2012 10:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Burn by Biden.

Bias maybe ? :D
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
October 12 2012 01:54 GMT
#15027
biden is calling ryan's bullshit
How do you mine minerals?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 12 2012 01:54 GMT
#15028
On October 12 2012 10:52 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Jesus this moderator wont let Ryan talk at all.


ryan is actually getting plenty of speaking time, he's talking in that supposedly slow but persuasive and urgent way, but biden is being more assertive.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
October 12 2012 01:54 GMT
#15029
Just notice Ryan's flag pin is biggers than Bidens. Now I wonder why <.<
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
October 12 2012 01:54 GMT
#15030
Why the fuck couldn't Obama do this?
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 12 2012 01:54 GMT
#15031
Yeah, Biden interrupting and talking over him, trying to out yell him even. Almost unwatchable.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
October 12 2012 01:54 GMT
#15032
Ryan won't answer if he'll raise the middle class tax
FoTG fighting!
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
October 12 2012 01:54 GMT
#15033
On October 12 2012 10:52 acker wrote:
From the Economist:

Show nested quote +
"....Rosen concluded that Romney could pull off his tax plan without losing revenue assuming an extra 3 percent “growth effect” to the economy resulting from Romney’s rate cuts. That’s an extremely aggressive assumption, and in conflict with recent experience."

actually, that assumption is a pretty safe one, and it is a lot safer than the 0% the TPC report assumed.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
October 12 2012 01:54 GMT
#15034
On October 12 2012 10:53 turdburgler wrote:
its great that they bring up specific entitlements and laws and stuff but its so hard to follow the exact rules on both (especially when you arent american -_-) quickly enough. gets hard to tell who is right when they disagree on reality.


Don't worry. Half the people watching this debate have little to no idea what these two are talking about.
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 12 2012 01:54 GMT
#15035
called 2/2 so far, not as sure about the last 2 but i'll say obama for pres debate 2, romney for pres debate 3, obama wins gen. election with under 300 electoral votes.
CajunMan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States823 Posts
October 12 2012 01:54 GMT
#15036
On October 12 2012 10:52 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Jesus this moderator wont let Ryan talk at all.


I wonder why that is it couldn't be http://seattletimes.com/html/entertainment/2019397448_apusdebateraddatz.html

NoOOOOOO not that Obama couldn't know her personally.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 12 2012 01:55 GMT
#15037
double speak Romney just said this week he would increase defense especially the Navy.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
October 12 2012 01:55 GMT
#15038
As of 9pm the talking time is as follows for those that can't see timer kept by CNN:

Biden: 25:09
Ryan: 24:00
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Pusekatten
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway234 Posts
October 12 2012 01:55 GMT
#15039
Funny how Paul says that the tax cut will give 7mill jobs. But when bush also did a tax cut across the board, the US lost 1mill jobs. I predict that the US will loose another 1mill jobs if Pual and Mitt becomes President and Vice Pres.

Also if Paul and Mitt wants to take away loop holes, the middle and lower class will in the end have to pay more taxes than they are doing now.

Also when Paul and Mitt is talking about the "Middle Class", do you know who they are talking about? You would think it was for the people who had a income between 50-75k a year, but no no. Thats not it. The "Middle Class" are those who make between 200-250k a year.

Go Biden!
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 12 2012 01:55 GMT
#15040
Ryan is not getting to say anything at all. This debate is a farce.
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