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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 12 2012 02:01 GMT
#15081
On October 12 2012 10:59 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 10:56 xDaunt wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:55 Praetorial wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:55 xDaunt wrote:
Ryan is not getting to say anything at all. This debate is a farce.


Ryan, oddly enough, has had about equal speaking time.

Bullshit, Biden has been talking over him for the past 10-15 mins.


Meh, this is the debate. You still keeping score?

I like this. If Ryan's statements can't stand up to Biden and a moderator I don't care if it's biased (it is). If you have faith in your plan to stand up to scrutiny it wouldn't matter if everything you said got fact-checked and called out by your opponent and the moderator.


I have it at 4-2 still. I haven't been able to score the past several rounds due Biden and the moderator not giving Ryan a fair chance to answer.
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
October 12 2012 02:01 GMT
#15082
On October 12 2012 10:58 Zooper31 wrote:
Before they started the question about Afghanistan.

Biden: 26:03
Ryan: 24:46

They've had equal speaking time as much as it seems they haven't. Yes they tick up the clock when Biden or Ryan interrupts and both clocks can go at the same time when they talk over each other.

Ok, thats a little relieving to me, but I still dont think Biden should interrupt. Say what he has to say and if he stops short of 2 minutes he shouldnt make it up interrupting Ryan.

Moderator also seems to cut off the topics every time Ryan wants to respond and never when Biden wants to. I fully believe Biden can win the debate without the help of the moderator or interruptions so this is disappointing to me.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 12 2012 02:01 GMT
#15083
both clocks can go at the same time when they talk over each other.

Here's the explanation.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Meiya
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia1169 Posts
October 12 2012 02:01 GMT
#15084
Biden seems to have relaxed a bit.
Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 12 2012 02:01 GMT
#15085
On October 12 2012 11:00 Enchanted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 10:56 Risen wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:54 CajunMan wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:52 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Jesus this moderator wont let Ryan talk at all.


I wonder why that is it couldn't be http://seattletimes.com/html/entertainment/2019397448_apusdebateraddatz.html

NoOOOOOO not that Obama couldn't know her personally.


Standard nonsense attack. Attack the points raised not the credibility of the people giving them. Doing so just makes you look like an ass unwilling to respond to arguments.

He's saying that she is biased towards one of the debaters, which, if you've been watching, she is. What else is there for him to say ?


How about he says oh she's biased, and you can see clear examples of it here. Instead he tries some stupid conspiracy theory nonsense.

I'll say it again. This is what the Republican party needs. Expose the lies and misrepresentations so this weak trash gets thrown out and the party gets back to sanity.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
CajunMan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States823 Posts
October 12 2012 02:02 GMT
#15086
On October 12 2012 11:00 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 10:58 CajunMan wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:56 Risen wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:54 CajunMan wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:52 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Jesus this moderator wont let Ryan talk at all.


I wonder why that is it couldn't be http://seattletimes.com/html/entertainment/2019397448_apusdebateraddatz.html

NoOOOOOO not that Obama couldn't know her personally.


Standard nonsense attack. Attack the points raised not the credibility of the people giving them. Doing so just makes you look like an ass unwilling to respond to arguments.


Attacking me personally does not make this fact any less true not arguing against my point makes you look like an ass and unwilling to respond to arguments.


Meh, I prefer arguments over ideas, not people. I think arguing over people is for weak bitches. To each his own.


Congrats on dodging because it is below you just tell me like Obama tells the Moderators tell me I can move on so I can know I'm right just say it tell me to move on hurry while I twist my nipples.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 12 2012 02:02 GMT
#15087
On October 12 2012 11:00 ticklishmusic wrote:


JOE BIDEN PUT THE TEAM ON HIS BACK

PAUL RYAN, ONE OF THE HARDEST HITTING DEBATERS IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY


oh god what.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45198 Posts
October 12 2012 02:02 GMT
#15088
Is the moderator actually debating for Biden and against Ryan, or just trying to keep Ryan honest? I'm not exactly sure.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
October 12 2012 02:02 GMT
#15089
So Ryan, we should just leave without giving allies a timetable?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 12 2012 02:03 GMT
#15090
On October 12 2012 11:02 CajunMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:00 Risen wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:58 CajunMan wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:56 Risen wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:54 CajunMan wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:52 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Jesus this moderator wont let Ryan talk at all.


I wonder why that is it couldn't be http://seattletimes.com/html/entertainment/2019397448_apusdebateraddatz.html

NoOOOOOO not that Obama couldn't know her personally.


Standard nonsense attack. Attack the points raised not the credibility of the people giving them. Doing so just makes you look like an ass unwilling to respond to arguments.


Attacking me personally does not make this fact any less true not arguing against my point makes you look like an ass and unwilling to respond to arguments.


Meh, I prefer arguments over ideas, not people. I think arguing over people is for weak bitches. To each his own.


Congrats on dodging because it is below you just tell me like Obama tells the Moderators tell me I can move on so I can know I'm right just say it tell me to move on hurry while I twist my nipples.


Read what I've been saying. I acknowledge that the moderator is biased, and I don't care. If Ryan and Romney had their shit straight it wouldn't matter if the whole world was against them. As it is, they need to be thrown out like yesterday's trash so the party can get back on track.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 12 2012 02:03 GMT
#15091
On October 12 2012 11:01 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:00 Enchanted wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:56 Risen wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:54 CajunMan wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:52 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Jesus this moderator wont let Ryan talk at all.


I wonder why that is it couldn't be http://seattletimes.com/html/entertainment/2019397448_apusdebateraddatz.html

NoOOOOOO not that Obama couldn't know her personally.


Standard nonsense attack. Attack the points raised not the credibility of the people giving them. Doing so just makes you look like an ass unwilling to respond to arguments.

He's saying that she is biased towards one of the debaters, which, if you've been watching, she is. What else is there for him to say ?


How about he says oh she's biased, and you can see clear examples of it here. Instead he tries some stupid conspiracy theory nonsense.

I'll say it again. This is what the Republican party needs. Expose the lies and misrepresentations so this weak trash gets thrown out and the party gets back to sanity.

It is no secret that the moderator is a democrat. I don't really care about that. What I do care about is her performance and fairness in moderating. She clearly is not being fair.
Razakel
Profile Joined April 2011
Ireland466 Posts
October 12 2012 02:03 GMT
#15092
Ryan's answer is absolutely terrible
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18843 Posts
October 12 2012 02:04 GMT
#15093
"Step up! Step up!" Biden bringin the street talk.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 12 2012 02:04 GMT
#15094
On October 12 2012 11:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Is the moderator actually debating for Biden and against Ryan, or just trying to keep Ryan honest? I'm not exactly sure.


well, even if she is calling ryan on his bull more than biden, debatable, the answer should be she gives more questioning to biden, not less to ryan.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 12 2012 02:04 GMT
#15095
On October 12 2012 11:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Is the moderator actually debating for Biden and against Ryan, or just trying to keep Ryan honest? I'm not exactly sure.


Both. She's keeping Ryan honest, but this is a debate and the only person keeping Ryan honest should be Biden. Therefor, she's debating for Biden.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 12 2012 02:04 GMT
#15096
Alright, another point to Ryan for this timeline business. In fairness to Biden, there is no good answer that he can give.

4-3 Biden.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
October 12 2012 02:04 GMT
#15097
On October 12 2012 11:01 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 10:59 Risen wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:56 xDaunt wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:55 Praetorial wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:55 xDaunt wrote:
Ryan is not getting to say anything at all. This debate is a farce.


Ryan, oddly enough, has had about equal speaking time.

Bullshit, Biden has been talking over him for the past 10-15 mins.


Meh, this is the debate. You still keeping score?

I like this. If Ryan's statements can't stand up to Biden and a moderator I don't care if it's biased (it is). If you have faith in your plan to stand up to scrutiny it wouldn't matter if everything you said got fact-checked and called out by your opponent and the moderator.


I have it at 4-2 still. I haven't been able to score the past several rounds due Biden and the moderator not giving Ryan a fair chance to answer.


6-2 then.

Tee hee.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
October 12 2012 02:04 GMT
#15098
On October 12 2012 11:02 TheTenthDoc wrote:
So Ryan, we should just leave without giving allies a timetable?

You can tell your allies without announcing it to the world.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
October 12 2012 02:04 GMT
#15099
On October 12 2012 11:03 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:01 Risen wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:00 Enchanted wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:56 Risen wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:54 CajunMan wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:52 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Jesus this moderator wont let Ryan talk at all.


I wonder why that is it couldn't be http://seattletimes.com/html/entertainment/2019397448_apusdebateraddatz.html

NoOOOOOO not that Obama couldn't know her personally.


Standard nonsense attack. Attack the points raised not the credibility of the people giving them. Doing so just makes you look like an ass unwilling to respond to arguments.

He's saying that she is biased towards one of the debaters, which, if you've been watching, she is. What else is there for him to say ?


How about he says oh she's biased, and you can see clear examples of it here. Instead he tries some stupid conspiracy theory nonsense.

I'll say it again. This is what the Republican party needs. Expose the lies and misrepresentations so this weak trash gets thrown out and the party gets back to sanity.

It is no secret that the moderator is a democrat. I don't really care about that. What I do care about is her performance and fairness in moderating. She clearly is not being fair.


that question was a hardball to the VP i think he answered it well
No Artosis, you are robin
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
October 12 2012 02:05 GMT
#15100
On October 12 2012 11:02 TheTenthDoc wrote:
So Ryan, we should just leave without giving allies a timetable?

Because the only way to tell allies is to announce it to everyone ? Right ? o.o
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