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On October 12 2012 11:03 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 11:01 Risen wrote:On October 12 2012 11:00 Enchanted wrote:On October 12 2012 10:56 Risen wrote:Standard nonsense attack. Attack the points raised not the credibility of the people giving them. Doing so just makes you look like an ass unwilling to respond to arguments. He's saying that she is biased towards one of the debaters, which, if you've been watching, she is. What else is there for him to say ? How about he says oh she's biased, and you can see clear examples of it here. Instead he tries some stupid conspiracy theory nonsense. I'll say it again. This is what the Republican party needs. Expose the lies and misrepresentations so this weak trash gets thrown out and the party gets back to sanity. It is no secret that the moderator is a democrat. I don't really care about that. What I do care about is her performance and fairness in moderating. She clearly is not being fair.
Yeah she's doing a pretty terrible job. Shouldn't let the participants **cough** Biden, talk over each other. One of the jobs of a moderator.
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Regardless of it the moderator is being fair or not, Ryan is dodging stuff and it's bad. You can't say things like the math is going to work out then dodge talking about specifics, or any numbers.
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The timetable myth was exposed as blatantly false in Iraq, can't believe Ryan's trying to sell it for Afghanistan.
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On October 12 2012 11:04 xDaunt wrote:
Alright, another point to Ryan for this timeline business. In fairness to Biden, there is no good answer that he can give.
4-3 Biden.
you had 5-2 earlier, how did biden lose a point you already gave him?
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"We dont want our enemies a date to know when to strik"
Isn't the whole idea behind training the afghan by 2014, being that the Afghan can handle these enemies on their own?
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On October 12 2012 11:03 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 11:01 Risen wrote:On October 12 2012 11:00 Enchanted wrote:On October 12 2012 10:56 Risen wrote:Standard nonsense attack. Attack the points raised not the credibility of the people giving them. Doing so just makes you look like an ass unwilling to respond to arguments. He's saying that she is biased towards one of the debaters, which, if you've been watching, she is. What else is there for him to say ? How about he says oh she's biased, and you can see clear examples of it here. Instead he tries some stupid conspiracy theory nonsense. I'll say it again. This is what the Republican party needs. Expose the lies and misrepresentations so this weak trash gets thrown out and the party gets back to sanity. It is no secret that the moderator is a democrat. I don't really care about that. What I do care about is her performance and fairness in moderating. She clearly is not being fair.
That's a difference between us. I don't care about fair because the real world isn't fair. I care about the strongest president winning. If you have to lie/mislead people about your positions then you're weak. Your ideas should stand up on their own merit.
Biden losing it a bit atm.
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On October 12 2012 11:04 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 11:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Is the moderator actually debating for Biden and against Ryan, or just trying to keep Ryan honest? I'm not exactly sure. well, even if she is calling ryan on his bull more than biden, debatable, the answer should be she gives more questioning to biden, not less to ryan.
She did frame some questions pretty brutally to Biden. The unemployment one, especially, was incredibly bleak with the whole "it's 7.8%, you said it would be 6%, what's the deal?"
Her problems are more time wise and argument wise. I think I she's also a tad genuinely irritated with Romney/Ryan and it's bleeding through unprofessionally.
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Pretty nice catch by Reuters:
![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4-IFEjCcAACo5K.jpg)
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On October 12 2012 11:05 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 11:04 xDaunt wrote:
Alright, another point to Ryan for this timeline business. In fairness to Biden, there is no good answer that he can give.
4-3 Biden. you had 5-2 earlier, how did biden lose a point you already gave him?
My bad, 5-3. Been so long that I forgot where I was at.
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O.o
On October 12 2012 11:06 Serinox wrote:Pretty nice catch by Reuters:
Looks like black magic.
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On October 12 2012 11:05 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 11:03 xDaunt wrote:On October 12 2012 11:01 Risen wrote:On October 12 2012 11:00 Enchanted wrote:On October 12 2012 10:56 Risen wrote:Standard nonsense attack. Attack the points raised not the credibility of the people giving them. Doing so just makes you look like an ass unwilling to respond to arguments. He's saying that she is biased towards one of the debaters, which, if you've been watching, she is. What else is there for him to say ? How about he says oh she's biased, and you can see clear examples of it here. Instead he tries some stupid conspiracy theory nonsense. I'll say it again. This is what the Republican party needs. Expose the lies and misrepresentations so this weak trash gets thrown out and the party gets back to sanity. It is no secret that the moderator is a democrat. I don't really care about that. What I do care about is her performance and fairness in moderating. She clearly is not being fair. That's a difference between us. I don't care about fair because the real world isn't fair. I care about the strongest president winning. If you have to lie/mislead people about your positions then you're weak. Your ideas should stand up on their own merit. Biden losing it a bit atm.
Except Biden's lies are being tested at their on merit they are being freely thrown out there and when counter points are given they are interrupted.
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On October 12 2012 11:05 Enchanted wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 11:02 TheTenthDoc wrote:
So Ryan, we should just leave without giving allies a timetable? Because the only way to tell allies is to announce it to everyone ? Right ? o.o
Uh, you should probably tell the people of the countries so they don't think it's a permanent quagmire. I mean, you wouldn't just invade a country without telling citizens.
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On October 12 2012 11:04 xDaunt wrote:
Alright, another point to Ryan for this timeline business. In fairness to Biden, there is no good answer that he can give.
4-3 Biden.
I could be wrong, but I'm almost sure you had Biden up at 5 points before (because someone said he won the best of 9) o.O
EDIT: You changed it ^^
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Paul Ryan again foot in mouth.
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End of Afghanistan questioning and before they start next subject on Syria.
Biden: 30:50
Ryan: 29:12
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Any high quality stream links? Watching C-span right now but the quality just sucks.
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That last exchange about afghanistan was confusing as fuck. no points for either.
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I think that should be a point for Ryan.
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And Paul Ryan will have the weather for us at 11.
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AFGHANS TO DO THE JOB. AFGHANS TO DO THE JOB.
Ouch.
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