On October 03 2012 23:13 urashimakt wrote: I'm not sure what the concern is over that video. It's not like he's stoking racial division. He mentioned slavery, among other things, and said "we'll take the bullet out" which seems a lot like "we'll get past it".
If he had said "and then we're going to GET THOSE #@$%#@$", I'd be concerned.
Obama said that Katrina victims got treated crapply because they're black.
It's very bad.
But nowhere near as bad as the Romney 47% video. Not even remotely close to THAT bad.
Can you give me the timestamp for that in either video? I've only watched the long one and I appear to have not paid attention well enough.
I haven't watched the video. I've only read quotes from news reports.
But the full version of the speech, posted on The Daily Caller website this evening, shows Obama taking that argument a step further, suggesting the federal government overlooked the needs of residents of New Orleans suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, as opposed to victims of other disasters in other parts of the country.
"Down in New Orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later," Obama says, "there's a law, federal law - when you get reconstruction money from the federal government - called the Stafford Act. And basically it says, when you get federal money, you've got to give a 10 percent match. The local government's got to come up with 10 percent. Every 10 dollars the federal government comes up with, local government's got to give a dollar.
"Now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in New York City, they waived the Stafford Act - said, 'This is too serious a problem. We can't expect New York City to rebuild on its own. Forget that dollar you got to put in. Well, here's 10 dollars.' And that was the right thing to do. When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, 'Look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with y'own money, here. Here's the money to rebuild. We're not going to wait for you to scratch it together - because you're part of the American family.' … What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. Tells me that somehow, the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."
On October 03 2012 23:13 urashimakt wrote: I'm not sure what the concern is over that video. It's not like he's stoking racial division. He mentioned slavery, among other things, and said "we'll take the bullet out" which seems a lot like "we'll get past it".
If he had said "and then we're going to GET THOSE #@$%#@$", I'd be concerned.
Obama said that Katrina victims got treated crapply because they're black.
It's very bad.
But nowhere near as bad as the Romney 47% video. Not even remotely close to THAT bad.
Can you give me the timestamp for that in either video? I've only watched the long one and I appear to have not paid attention well enough.
I haven't watched the video. I've only read quotes from news reports.
But the full version of the speech, posted on The Daily Caller website this evening, shows Obama taking that argument a step further, suggesting the federal government overlooked the needs of residents of New Orleans suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, as opposed to victims of other disasters in other parts of the country.
"Down in New Orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later," Obama says, "there's a law, federal law - when you get reconstruction money from the federal government - called the Stafford Act. And basically it says, when you get federal money, you've got to give a 10 percent match. The local government's got to come up with 10 percent. Every 10 dollars the federal government comes up with, local government's got to give a dollar.
"Now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in New York City, they waived the Stafford Act - said, 'This is too serious a problem. We can't expect New York City to rebuild on its own. Forget that dollar you got to put in. Well, here's 10 dollars.' And that was the right thing to do. When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, 'Look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with y'own money, here. Here's the money to rebuild. We're not going to wait for you to scratch it together - because you're part of the American family.' … What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. Tells me that somehow, the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."
i see romney going all out attack mode in the debates. if only to distract from the damaging dredge about himself and play some sort of equivalence by overload of accusations scenario in which horrendous attacks are thrown with such frequency that people tune them all out.
On October 03 2012 23:13 urashimakt wrote: I'm not sure what the concern is over that video. It's not like he's stoking racial division. He mentioned slavery, among other things, and said "we'll take the bullet out" which seems a lot like "we'll get past it".
If he had said "and then we're going to GET THOSE #@$%#@$", I'd be concerned.
Obama said that Katrina victims got treated crapply because they're black.
It's very bad.
But nowhere near as bad as the Romney 47% video. Not even remotely close to THAT bad.
Can you give me the timestamp for that in either video? I've only watched the long one and I appear to have not paid attention well enough.
I haven't watched the video. I've only read quotes from news reports.
But the full version of the speech, posted on The Daily Caller website this evening, shows Obama taking that argument a step further, suggesting the federal government overlooked the needs of residents of New Orleans suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, as opposed to victims of other disasters in other parts of the country.
"Down in New Orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later," Obama says, "there's a law, federal law - when you get reconstruction money from the federal government - called the Stafford Act. And basically it says, when you get federal money, you've got to give a 10 percent match. The local government's got to come up with 10 percent. Every 10 dollars the federal government comes up with, local government's got to give a dollar.
"Now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in New York City, they waived the Stafford Act - said, 'This is too serious a problem. We can't expect New York City to rebuild on its own. Forget that dollar you got to put in. Well, here's 10 dollars.' And that was the right thing to do. When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, 'Look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with y'own money, here. Here's the money to rebuild. We're not going to wait for you to scratch it together - because you're part of the American family.' … What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. Tells me that somehow, the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."
Ahh, nice try, that videos old. But this one is new! At least Romney still sounds the same in his video, Obama's accent is so fake it is ridiculous and it is extremely obvious he is telling them that the federal government doesn't like them because they are black. It is so nasty and divisive it blows my mind.
Similar to people who are "pro-life" with abortion, quoting George Carlin "Pre-born you're fine, Pre-school you're fuckkkked"
No one gives a shit about retired marines/veterans... No one gives 2 shits, they're not doing anything anymore and frankly that's depressing but it's a fact. They are all for wars, they're all for sending men off but when they come home fuck it! I believe a study showed a good portion of homeless men were either mentally handicapped or a war veteran.
On October 04 2012 01:02 oneofthem wrote: i see obama going all out attack mode in the debates. if only to distract from the damaging dredge about himself and play some sort of equivalence by overload of accusations scenario in which horrendous attacks are thrown with such frequency that people tune them all out.
I fixed it for you. See, it can be said about both. Obama's got a lot of explaining to do with his race-dividing remarks.
On October 03 2012 23:13 urashimakt wrote: I'm not sure what the concern is over that video. It's not like he's stoking racial division. He mentioned slavery, among other things, and said "we'll take the bullet out" which seems a lot like "we'll get past it".
If he had said "and then we're going to GET THOSE #@$%#@$", I'd be concerned.
Obama said that Katrina victims got treated crapply because they're black.
It's very bad.
But nowhere near as bad as the Romney 47% video. Not even remotely close to THAT bad.
Can you give me the timestamp for that in either video? I've only watched the long one and I appear to have not paid attention well enough.
I haven't watched the video. I've only read quotes from news reports.
But the full version of the speech, posted on The Daily Caller website this evening, shows Obama taking that argument a step further, suggesting the federal government overlooked the needs of residents of New Orleans suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, as opposed to victims of other disasters in other parts of the country.
"Down in New Orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later," Obama says, "there's a law, federal law - when you get reconstruction money from the federal government - called the Stafford Act. And basically it says, when you get federal money, you've got to give a 10 percent match. The local government's got to come up with 10 percent. Every 10 dollars the federal government comes up with, local government's got to give a dollar.
"Now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in New York City, they waived the Stafford Act - said, 'This is too serious a problem. We can't expect New York City to rebuild on its own. Forget that dollar you got to put in. Well, here's 10 dollars.' And that was the right thing to do. When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, 'Look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with y'own money, here. Here's the money to rebuild. We're not going to wait for you to scratch it together - because you're part of the American family.' … What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. Tells me that somehow, the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."
What true colors? Nothing he said was false, no one gave a shit about New Orleans compared to 9/11 or any other disaster. Claiming a fact that the Federal Government didn't suppose people in times of need and coincidentally with this only really happening once the popoulation was mainly poor black people he strung it together. Comparing 47% of Americans as bums and stating that the Federal Government didn't do enough to support New Orleans are two totally separate things.
His remarks weren't "race divide" it was about race equality and how race equality seemed lacking when New Orleans needed it the most.
On October 03 2012 23:13 urashimakt wrote: I'm not sure what the concern is over that video. It's not like he's stoking racial division. He mentioned slavery, among other things, and said "we'll take the bullet out" which seems a lot like "we'll get past it".
If he had said "and then we're going to GET THOSE #@$%#@$", I'd be concerned.
Obama said that Katrina victims got treated crapply because they're black.
It's very bad.
But nowhere near as bad as the Romney 47% video. Not even remotely close to THAT bad.
Can you give me the timestamp for that in either video? I've only watched the long one and I appear to have not paid attention well enough.
I haven't watched the video. I've only read quotes from news reports.
But the full version of the speech, posted on The Daily Caller website this evening, shows Obama taking that argument a step further, suggesting the federal government overlooked the needs of residents of New Orleans suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, as opposed to victims of other disasters in other parts of the country.
"Down in New Orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later," Obama says, "there's a law, federal law - when you get reconstruction money from the federal government - called the Stafford Act. And basically it says, when you get federal money, you've got to give a 10 percent match. The local government's got to come up with 10 percent. Every 10 dollars the federal government comes up with, local government's got to give a dollar.
"Now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in New York City, they waived the Stafford Act - said, 'This is too serious a problem. We can't expect New York City to rebuild on its own. Forget that dollar you got to put in. Well, here's 10 dollars.' And that was the right thing to do. When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, 'Look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with y'own money, here. Here's the money to rebuild. We're not going to wait for you to scratch it together - because you're part of the American family.' … What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. Tells me that somehow, the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."
What true colors? Nothing he said was false, no one gave a shit about New Orleans compared to 9/11 or any other disaster. Claiming a fact that the Federal Government didn't suppose people in times of need and coincidentally with this only really happening once the popoulation was mainly poor black people he strung it together. Comparing 47% of Americans as bums and stating that the Federal Government didn't do enough to support New Orleans are two totally separate things.
His remarks weren't "race divide" it was about race equality and how race equality seemed lacking when New Orleans needed it the most.
So the Bush administration didn't give $7 Billion to New Orleans no strings attached? Oh, and here you go!
OBAMA, JUNE 5, 2007: I have to give a special shout out to my pastor. The guy who puts up with me, counsels me, listens to my wife complain about me.
(LAUGHTER)
He's a friend and a great leader to everybody. Everybody give an extraordinary welcome to my pastor, Dr. Jeremiah Wright.
OBAMA, MARCH 18, 2008: I have already condemned in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy and in some cases, pain. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course.
OBAMA, JUNE 5, 2007: When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with your money here. What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. Tells me the bullet hasn't been taken out.
(APPLAUSE)
Tells me that somehow the people down in New Orleans, they don't care about as much.
OBAMA, MARCH 18, 2008: Reverend Wright's comments were not only wrong, but divisive, divisive at a time when we need unity, racially-charged at a time when we need to come together to solve a set of monumental problems, problems that are neither black nor white or Latino or Asian, but rather, problems that confront us all.
On October 03 2012 23:13 urashimakt wrote: I'm not sure what the concern is over that video. It's not like he's stoking racial division. He mentioned slavery, among other things, and said "we'll take the bullet out" which seems a lot like "we'll get past it".
If he had said "and then we're going to GET THOSE #@$%#@$", I'd be concerned.
Obama said that Katrina victims got treated crapply because they're black.
It's very bad.
But nowhere near as bad as the Romney 47% video. Not even remotely close to THAT bad.
Can you give me the timestamp for that in either video? I've only watched the long one and I appear to have not paid attention well enough.
I haven't watched the video. I've only read quotes from news reports.
But the full version of the speech, posted on The Daily Caller website this evening, shows Obama taking that argument a step further, suggesting the federal government overlooked the needs of residents of New Orleans suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, as opposed to victims of other disasters in other parts of the country.
"Down in New Orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later," Obama says, "there's a law, federal law - when you get reconstruction money from the federal government - called the Stafford Act. And basically it says, when you get federal money, you've got to give a 10 percent match. The local government's got to come up with 10 percent. Every 10 dollars the federal government comes up with, local government's got to give a dollar.
"Now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in New York City, they waived the Stafford Act - said, 'This is too serious a problem. We can't expect New York City to rebuild on its own. Forget that dollar you got to put in. Well, here's 10 dollars.' And that was the right thing to do. When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, 'Look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with y'own money, here. Here's the money to rebuild. We're not going to wait for you to scratch it together - because you're part of the American family.' … What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. Tells me that somehow, the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."
Ahh, nice try, that videos old. But this one is new! At least Romney still sounds the same in his video, Obama's accent is so fake it is ridiculous and it is extremely obvious he is telling them that the federal government doesn't like them because they are black. It is so nasty and divisive it blows my mind.
On October 03 2012 23:13 urashimakt wrote: I'm not sure what the concern is over that video. It's not like he's stoking racial division. He mentioned slavery, among other things, and said "we'll take the bullet out" which seems a lot like "we'll get past it".
If he had said "and then we're going to GET THOSE #@$%#@$", I'd be concerned.
Obama said that Katrina victims got treated crapply because they're black.
It's very bad.
But nowhere near as bad as the Romney 47% video. Not even remotely close to THAT bad.
Can you give me the timestamp for that in either video? I've only watched the long one and I appear to have not paid attention well enough.
I haven't watched the video. I've only read quotes from news reports.
But the full version of the speech, posted on The Daily Caller website this evening, shows Obama taking that argument a step further, suggesting the federal government overlooked the needs of residents of New Orleans suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, as opposed to victims of other disasters in other parts of the country.
"Down in New Orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later," Obama says, "there's a law, federal law - when you get reconstruction money from the federal government - called the Stafford Act. And basically it says, when you get federal money, you've got to give a 10 percent match. The local government's got to come up with 10 percent. Every 10 dollars the federal government comes up with, local government's got to give a dollar.
"Now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in New York City, they waived the Stafford Act - said, 'This is too serious a problem. We can't expect New York City to rebuild on its own. Forget that dollar you got to put in. Well, here's 10 dollars.' And that was the right thing to do. When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, 'Look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with y'own money, here. Here's the money to rebuild. We're not going to wait for you to scratch it together - because you're part of the American family.' … What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. Tells me that somehow, the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."
Ahh, nice try, that videos old. But this one is new! At least Romney still sounds the same in his video, Obama's accent is so fake it is ridiculous and it is extremely obvious he is telling them that the federal government doesn't like them because they are black. It is so nasty and divisive it blows my mind.
On October 03 2012 23:13 urashimakt wrote: I'm not sure what the concern is over that video. It's not like he's stoking racial division. He mentioned slavery, among other things, and said "we'll take the bullet out" which seems a lot like "we'll get past it".
If he had said "and then we're going to GET THOSE #@$%#@$", I'd be concerned.
Obama said that Katrina victims got treated crapply because they're black.
It's very bad.
But nowhere near as bad as the Romney 47% video. Not even remotely close to THAT bad.
Can you give me the timestamp for that in either video? I've only watched the long one and I appear to have not paid attention well enough.
I haven't watched the video. I've only read quotes from news reports.
But the full version of the speech, posted on The Daily Caller website this evening, shows Obama taking that argument a step further, suggesting the federal government overlooked the needs of residents of New Orleans suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, as opposed to victims of other disasters in other parts of the country.
"Down in New Orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later," Obama says, "there's a law, federal law - when you get reconstruction money from the federal government - called the Stafford Act. And basically it says, when you get federal money, you've got to give a 10 percent match. The local government's got to come up with 10 percent. Every 10 dollars the federal government comes up with, local government's got to give a dollar.
"Now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in New York City, they waived the Stafford Act - said, 'This is too serious a problem. We can't expect New York City to rebuild on its own. Forget that dollar you got to put in. Well, here's 10 dollars.' And that was the right thing to do. When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, 'Look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with y'own money, here. Here's the money to rebuild. We're not going to wait for you to scratch it together - because you're part of the American family.' … What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. Tells me that somehow, the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."
Ahh, nice try, that videos old. But this one is new! At least Romney still sounds the same in his video, Obama's accent is so fake it is ridiculous and it is extremely obvious he is telling them that the federal government doesn't like them because they are black. It is so nasty and divisive it blows my mind.
The Obama video is from 2007. It says this in the ABC article I linked earlier.
So you're wrong.
No, parts of the Obama video were released back in 2007, the ad-libbed racist remarks were only just released the other day.
If you weren't saying that the Romney video was old, in the sense that it was recorded a long time ago, then what is your point? Why does it matter how old the videos are, in the sense of when they were released?
And I believe that Obama video has been around for a long time. They've just necroed it now to blunt the attacks on Romney's 47% remarks.
On October 03 2012 23:13 urashimakt wrote: I'm not sure what the concern is over that video. It's not like he's stoking racial division. He mentioned slavery, among other things, and said "we'll take the bullet out" which seems a lot like "we'll get past it".
If he had said "and then we're going to GET THOSE #@$%#@$", I'd be concerned.
Obama said that Katrina victims got treated crapply because they're black.
It's very bad.
But nowhere near as bad as the Romney 47% video. Not even remotely close to THAT bad.
Can you give me the timestamp for that in either video? I've only watched the long one and I appear to have not paid attention well enough.
I haven't watched the video. I've only read quotes from news reports.
But the full version of the speech, posted on The Daily Caller website this evening, shows Obama taking that argument a step further, suggesting the federal government overlooked the needs of residents of New Orleans suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, as opposed to victims of other disasters in other parts of the country.
"Down in New Orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later," Obama says, "there's a law, federal law - when you get reconstruction money from the federal government - called the Stafford Act. And basically it says, when you get federal money, you've got to give a 10 percent match. The local government's got to come up with 10 percent. Every 10 dollars the federal government comes up with, local government's got to give a dollar.
"Now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in New York City, they waived the Stafford Act - said, 'This is too serious a problem. We can't expect New York City to rebuild on its own. Forget that dollar you got to put in. Well, here's 10 dollars.' And that was the right thing to do. When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, 'Look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with y'own money, here. Here's the money to rebuild. We're not going to wait for you to scratch it together - because you're part of the American family.' … What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. Tells me that somehow, the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."
Ahh, nice try, that videos old. But this one is new! At least Romney still sounds the same in his video, Obama's accent is so fake it is ridiculous and it is extremely obvious he is telling them that the federal government doesn't like them because they are black. It is so nasty and divisive it blows my mind.
Oh give it a break. There are extreme race issues in this country. It's a sickness. People need to get their heads out of their ass and the problem needs to be laid out on the table so we can address it. If it seems divisive to you it's only because that's how it is in the real world. It was only 15 years ago where you could still see segregation in parts of Missouri, where people were denied entry into certain establishments based on the color of their skin.
This comment is meant for both sides btw, Democrats and Republicans alike. Dodge the tough issues and they'll never go away.
When a brutal ice storm crippled several Midwestern states, particularly Kentucky and Arkansas, in January it took the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) several days to show up.
Meanwhile hundreds of thousands were without power and dozens died.
Why was President Obama sitting in the White House watching the Super Bowl while people suffered? Why did he campaign around the country for the economic "stimulus" plan rather than personally help lead relief efforts on the scene of the crisis as was expected of Bush?
Obama's defenders now say the stimulus contained no Katrina recovery funds because allocated money is still not spent. This argument, however, was unacceptable when Bush made it.
He is a hypocrite and used the EXACT same excuse, but what is worse is he used Hurricane Katrina to get everyone in that room all fired up and thinking that they are being singled out because of their race, then he goes and does the EXACT same thing!
No, he said the Bush Administration's handling of Katrina was colorbind in its incompetence.
I'm from New Orleans and went through Katrina. My house took on three feet of water, and my family had to relocate to California for a year (I went to school there), which actually wasn't too terrible. When we got back though (a year later), conditions were still pretty bad. A lot of streetlights didn't work, the roads were terrible and often blocked off by debris or random barricades. Lots of moldy houses and general shittiness. I lived in a FEMA trailer for about 8 months (formaldehyde problems and all) before we finally got our house fixed. My parents waited in lines for a week to get a meeting with the FEMA people.
Not saying that my experience with Katrina was the worst (in retrospect, it was a good life experience), but many of the things that happened to me happened to EVERYONE. Broken streetlights, bureaucratic bottleneck, that shit affects everyone. Being Asian-American (like me), African American, Hispanic or white, you had to deal with the same crap.
On October 01 2012 01:40 TheRabidDeer wrote: Does anybody know why Gary Johnson isnt able to take part in the Presidential debates? He is a seriously good candidate but so very few know about him.
EDIT: I know this isnt about obama or romney, but I am curious about the Presidential debates and how it is only 2 parties when we arent a strictly 2 party system.
BTW, don't know if you are still following this thread, but Democracy Now! is going to cover the debates live with third party candidates Jill Stein and Rocky Anderson (Gary Johnson was also invited, but had other plans for the evening). She will pause after each question to give them equal time to answer as if they were participating.
On October 03 2012 23:13 urashimakt wrote: I'm not sure what the concern is over that video. It's not like he's stoking racial division. He mentioned slavery, among other things, and said "we'll take the bullet out" which seems a lot like "we'll get past it".
If he had said "and then we're going to GET THOSE #@$%#@$", I'd be concerned.
Obama said that Katrina victims got treated crapply because they're black.
It's very bad.
But nowhere near as bad as the Romney 47% video. Not even remotely close to THAT bad.
Can you give me the timestamp for that in either video? I've only watched the long one and I appear to have not paid attention well enough.
I haven't watched the video. I've only read quotes from news reports.
But the full version of the speech, posted on The Daily Caller website this evening, shows Obama taking that argument a step further, suggesting the federal government overlooked the needs of residents of New Orleans suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, as opposed to victims of other disasters in other parts of the country.
"Down in New Orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later," Obama says, "there's a law, federal law - when you get reconstruction money from the federal government - called the Stafford Act. And basically it says, when you get federal money, you've got to give a 10 percent match. The local government's got to come up with 10 percent. Every 10 dollars the federal government comes up with, local government's got to give a dollar.
"Now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in New York City, they waived the Stafford Act - said, 'This is too serious a problem. We can't expect New York City to rebuild on its own. Forget that dollar you got to put in. Well, here's 10 dollars.' And that was the right thing to do. When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, 'Look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with y'own money, here. Here's the money to rebuild. We're not going to wait for you to scratch it together - because you're part of the American family.' … What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. Tells me that somehow, the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."
Ahh, nice try, that videos old. But this one is new! At least Romney still sounds the same in his video, Obama's accent is so fake it is ridiculous and it is extremely obvious he is telling them that the federal government doesn't like them because they are black. It is so nasty and divisive it blows my mind.
Oh give it a break. There are extreme race issues in this country. It's a sickness. People need to get their heads out of their ass and the problem needs to be laid out on the table so we can address it. If it seems divisive to you it's only because that's how it is in the real world. It was only 15 years ago where you could still see segregation in parts of Missouri, where people were denied entry into certain establishments based on the color of their skin.
This comment is meant for both sides btw, Democrats and Republicans alike. Dodge the tough issues and they'll never go away.
You are right it is a sickness, but you think Barack Obama getting a room full of black people thinking the Federal government is out to fuck them over because they are black didn't making things worse? Seriously?
On October 03 2012 23:13 urashimakt wrote: I'm not sure what the concern is over that video. It's not like he's stoking racial division. He mentioned slavery, among other things, and said "we'll take the bullet out" which seems a lot like "we'll get past it".
If he had said "and then we're going to GET THOSE #@$%#@$", I'd be concerned.
Obama said that Katrina victims got treated crapply because they're black.
It's very bad.
But nowhere near as bad as the Romney 47% video. Not even remotely close to THAT bad.
Can you give me the timestamp for that in either video? I've only watched the long one and I appear to have not paid attention well enough.
I haven't watched the video. I've only read quotes from news reports.
But the full version of the speech, posted on The Daily Caller website this evening, shows Obama taking that argument a step further, suggesting the federal government overlooked the needs of residents of New Orleans suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, as opposed to victims of other disasters in other parts of the country.
"Down in New Orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later," Obama says, "there's a law, federal law - when you get reconstruction money from the federal government - called the Stafford Act. And basically it says, when you get federal money, you've got to give a 10 percent match. The local government's got to come up with 10 percent. Every 10 dollars the federal government comes up with, local government's got to give a dollar.
"Now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in New York City, they waived the Stafford Act - said, 'This is too serious a problem. We can't expect New York City to rebuild on its own. Forget that dollar you got to put in. Well, here's 10 dollars.' And that was the right thing to do. When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, 'Look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with y'own money, here. Here's the money to rebuild. We're not going to wait for you to scratch it together - because you're part of the American family.' … What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. Tells me that somehow, the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."
Ahh, nice try, that videos old. But this one is new! At least Romney still sounds the same in his video, Obama's accent is so fake it is ridiculous and it is extremely obvious he is telling them that the federal government doesn't like them because they are black. It is so nasty and divisive it blows my mind.
Oh give it a break. There are extreme race issues in this country. It's a sickness. People need to get their heads out of their ass and the problem needs to be laid out on the table so we can address it. If it seems divisive to you it's only because that's how it is in the real world. It was only 15 years ago where you could still see segregation in parts of Missouri, where people were denied entry into certain establishments based on the color of their skin.
This comment is meant for both sides btw, Democrats and Republicans alike. Dodge the tough issues and they'll never go away.
You are right it is a sickness, but you think Barack Obama getting a room full of black people thinking the Federal government is out to fuck them over isn't making things worse? Seriously?
I think the more exposure the issue gets the better (kinda like the War on Drugs). Keeps everyone honest.
Not going to say that people should straight out lie. I don't know and I doubt anyone here knows why New Orleans was shafted. But if the logical conclusion is that race did play a factor, it needs to be put on blast.
On October 03 2012 23:13 urashimakt wrote: I'm not sure what the concern is over that video. It's not like he's stoking racial division. He mentioned slavery, among other things, and said "we'll take the bullet out" which seems a lot like "we'll get past it".
If he had said "and then we're going to GET THOSE #@$%#@$", I'd be concerned.
Obama said that Katrina victims got treated crapply because they're black.
It's very bad.
But nowhere near as bad as the Romney 47% video. Not even remotely close to THAT bad.
Can you give me the timestamp for that in either video? I've only watched the long one and I appear to have not paid attention well enough.
I haven't watched the video. I've only read quotes from news reports.
But the full version of the speech, posted on The Daily Caller website this evening, shows Obama taking that argument a step further, suggesting the federal government overlooked the needs of residents of New Orleans suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, as opposed to victims of other disasters in other parts of the country.
"Down in New Orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later," Obama says, "there's a law, federal law - when you get reconstruction money from the federal government - called the Stafford Act. And basically it says, when you get federal money, you've got to give a 10 percent match. The local government's got to come up with 10 percent. Every 10 dollars the federal government comes up with, local government's got to give a dollar.
"Now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in New York City, they waived the Stafford Act - said, 'This is too serious a problem. We can't expect New York City to rebuild on its own. Forget that dollar you got to put in. Well, here's 10 dollars.' And that was the right thing to do. When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, 'Look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with y'own money, here. Here's the money to rebuild. We're not going to wait for you to scratch it together - because you're part of the American family.' … What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. Tells me that somehow, the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."
Ahh, nice try, that videos old. But this one is new! At least Romney still sounds the same in his video, Obama's accent is so fake it is ridiculous and it is extremely obvious he is telling them that the federal government doesn't like them because they are black. It is so nasty and divisive it blows my mind.
Oh give it a break. There are extreme race issues in this country. It's a sickness. People need to get their heads out of their ass and the problem needs to be laid out on the table so we can address it. If it seems divisive to you it's only because that's how it is in the real world. It was only 15 years ago where you could still see segregation in parts of Missouri, where people were denied entry into certain establishments based on the color of their skin.
This comment is meant for both sides btw, Democrats and Republicans alike. Dodge the tough issues and they'll never go away.
You are right it is a sickness, but you think Barack Obama getting a room full of black people thinking the Federal government is out to fuck them over isn't making things worse? Seriously?
I think the more exposure the issue gets the better (kinda like the War on Drugs). Keeps everyone honest.
Not going to say that people should straight out lie. I don't know and I doubt anyone here knows why New Orleans was shafted. But if the logical conclusion is that race did play a factor, it needs to be put on blast.
Then Obama needs to be put on blast for the same reasons with the disasters in Kentucky and Arkansas when he made the same excuse.
On October 03 2012 23:18 paralleluniverse wrote: [quote] Obama said that Katrina victims got treated crapply because they're black.
It's very bad.
But nowhere near as bad as the Romney 47% video. Not even remotely close to THAT bad.
Can you give me the timestamp for that in either video? I've only watched the long one and I appear to have not paid attention well enough.
I haven't watched the video. I've only read quotes from news reports.
But the full version of the speech, posted on The Daily Caller website this evening, shows Obama taking that argument a step further, suggesting the federal government overlooked the needs of residents of New Orleans suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, as opposed to victims of other disasters in other parts of the country.
"Down in New Orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later," Obama says, "there's a law, federal law - when you get reconstruction money from the federal government - called the Stafford Act. And basically it says, when you get federal money, you've got to give a 10 percent match. The local government's got to come up with 10 percent. Every 10 dollars the federal government comes up with, local government's got to give a dollar.
"Now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in New York City, they waived the Stafford Act - said, 'This is too serious a problem. We can't expect New York City to rebuild on its own. Forget that dollar you got to put in. Well, here's 10 dollars.' And that was the right thing to do. When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, 'Look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with y'own money, here. Here's the money to rebuild. We're not going to wait for you to scratch it together - because you're part of the American family.' … What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. Tells me that somehow, the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."
Ahh, nice try, that videos old. But this one is new! At least Romney still sounds the same in his video, Obama's accent is so fake it is ridiculous and it is extremely obvious he is telling them that the federal government doesn't like them because they are black. It is so nasty and divisive it blows my mind.
Oh give it a break. There are extreme race issues in this country. It's a sickness. People need to get their heads out of their ass and the problem needs to be laid out on the table so we can address it. If it seems divisive to you it's only because that's how it is in the real world. It was only 15 years ago where you could still see segregation in parts of Missouri, where people were denied entry into certain establishments based on the color of their skin.
This comment is meant for both sides btw, Democrats and Republicans alike. Dodge the tough issues and they'll never go away.
You are right it is a sickness, but you think Barack Obama getting a room full of black people thinking the Federal government is out to fuck them over isn't making things worse? Seriously?
I think the more exposure the issue gets the better (kinda like the War on Drugs). Keeps everyone honest.
Not going to say that people should straight out lie. I don't know and I doubt anyone here knows why New Orleans was shafted. But if the logical conclusion is that race did play a factor, it needs to be put on blast.
Then Obama needs to be put on blast for the same reasons with the disasters in Kentucky and Arkansas when he made the same excuse.
To be honest I am not very familiar with what happened in that situation so I can't comment.
On October 03 2012 23:18 paralleluniverse wrote: [quote] Obama said that Katrina victims got treated crapply because they're black.
It's very bad.
But nowhere near as bad as the Romney 47% video. Not even remotely close to THAT bad.
Can you give me the timestamp for that in either video? I've only watched the long one and I appear to have not paid attention well enough.
I haven't watched the video. I've only read quotes from news reports.
But the full version of the speech, posted on The Daily Caller website this evening, shows Obama taking that argument a step further, suggesting the federal government overlooked the needs of residents of New Orleans suffering in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, as opposed to victims of other disasters in other parts of the country.
"Down in New Orleans, where they still have not rebuilt 20 months later," Obama says, "there's a law, federal law - when you get reconstruction money from the federal government - called the Stafford Act. And basically it says, when you get federal money, you've got to give a 10 percent match. The local government's got to come up with 10 percent. Every 10 dollars the federal government comes up with, local government's got to give a dollar.
"Now here's the thing, when 9/11 happened in New York City, they waived the Stafford Act - said, 'This is too serious a problem. We can't expect New York City to rebuild on its own. Forget that dollar you got to put in. Well, here's 10 dollars.' And that was the right thing to do. When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, 'Look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with y'own money, here. Here's the money to rebuild. We're not going to wait for you to scratch it together - because you're part of the American family.' … What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. Tells me that somehow, the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."
Ahh, nice try, that videos old. But this one is new! At least Romney still sounds the same in his video, Obama's accent is so fake it is ridiculous and it is extremely obvious he is telling them that the federal government doesn't like them because they are black. It is so nasty and divisive it blows my mind.
Oh give it a break. There are extreme race issues in this country. It's a sickness. People need to get their heads out of their ass and the problem needs to be laid out on the table so we can address it. If it seems divisive to you it's only because that's how it is in the real world. It was only 15 years ago where you could still see segregation in parts of Missouri, where people were denied entry into certain establishments based on the color of their skin.
This comment is meant for both sides btw, Democrats and Republicans alike. Dodge the tough issues and they'll never go away.
You are right it is a sickness, but you think Barack Obama getting a room full of black people thinking the Federal government is out to fuck them over isn't making things worse? Seriously?
I think the more exposure the issue gets the better (kinda like the War on Drugs). Keeps everyone honest.
Not going to say that people should straight out lie. I don't know and I doubt anyone here knows why New Orleans was shafted. But if the logical conclusion is that race did play a factor, it needs to be put on blast.
Then Obama needs to be put on blast for the same reasons with the disasters in Kentucky and Arkansas when he made the same excuse.
How is the federal response to what happened in Kentucky and Arkansas comparable to the federal response to what happened in New Orleans?
EPT
