President Obama Re-Elected - Page 421

On September 06 2012 03:45 NonCorporeal wrote:

Can't watch the video, because I'm at my college library and don't have headphones to hear the sound. But I have gained some respect for Chuck Norris in recent months, he has been very vocal about supporting gun rights and the NRA, which is always a good thing.

On September 06 2012 03:35 dvorakftw wrote:

Yeah, no.

On September 06 2012 03:41 aksfjh wrote:


Far-Right: Anarcho-Capitalism (No Government)
Right: Libertarianism (Minimalist Government)
Center-Right: US Republican Party (Very limited, but visible Government)
Center: US Democratic Party (Government provides some services, market provides alternatives to most)
Center-Left: Scandinavian Countries (Government provides services and owns entire industries)
Left: China (public ownership of most industries, extreme oversight)
Far-Left: Communism (public ownership of all means of production)

That's what it should look like. Even then, I might still have skewed it towards the left, so Democrats may be more "right" than I put them as.

On September 06 2012 04:02 NonCorporeal wrote:

I'm surprised that an American would draw that conclusion, it seems more like what someone in the Soviet Union would say, no offense. There's nothing "centre" about the Democrats or the EU socialists.

On September 06 2012 03:58 Doublemint wrote:


Colbert did a bit on yesterday's show ("a thousand years of darkness...!")

As much as you can be, legitimately, disappointed by Obama's performance and his views, the rhetoric is rather comical.

//edit: but oh well, if Chuck Norris says so... x-D

On September 06 2012 04:02 NonCorporeal wrote:

I'm surprised that an American would draw that conclusion, it seems more like what someone in the Soviet Union would say, no offense. There's nothing "centre" about the Democrats or the EU socialists.

On September 06 2012 04:05 HellRoxYa wrote:


Maybe you should actually pick up a book? Just because those political views aren't represented in your country (and thus pretty irrelevant to this thread) doesn't mean that the US political spectrum is "the" political spectrum. It isn't. If you would like to rephrase what you said to explicitly being the US political spectrum then I agree with you, but the democratic party is anything but left oriented in a more general setting.

On September 06 2012 04:05 HellRoxYa wrote:


Maybe you should actually pick up a book? Just because those political views aren't represented in your country (and thus pretty irrelevant to this thread) doesn't mean that the US political spectrum is "the" political spectrum. It isn't. If you would like to rephrase what you said to explicitly being the US political spectrum then I agree with you, but the democratic party is anything but left oriented in a more general setting.

On September 06 2012 03:58 Doublemint wrote:


Colbert did a bit on yesterday's show ("a thousand years of darkness...!")

As much as you can be, legitimately, disappointed by Obama's performance and his views, the rhetoric is rather comical.

//edit: but oh well, if Chuck Norris says so... x-D

On September 06 2012 04:12 NonCorporeal wrote:

The Democrat Party parrots the French Socialist Party, British Labour Party, German SDP, and various other left-wing European parties word-for-word. Making the government as big as possible, banning guns, creating a welfare state, pushing unlimited immigration, pushing socialist globalization (EU, UN, NAFTA, etc.), pushing non-interventionism, backing Palestine instead of Israel, etc.

Even by EU standards, the Democrats are decidedly left-wing.

On September 06 2012 04:10 Doublemint wrote:


His depiction is quite accurate, though I would generally just say that the spectrum in regards to the US is skewed. Compared to the EU, US is slightly to the right.

It's not that easily to distinguish because many countries come from different backgrounds and developed in a different way. But for starters this should do.

On September 06 2012 04:06 NonCorporeal wrote:

Really, anyone who cares what a celebrity thinks though is an idiot, especially when it comes to politics. No offense to anyone here.

On September 06 2012 04:15 Josealtron wrote:


I'm pretty sure you have no idea who Colbert is, otherwise you wouldn't have made that comment. Colbert isn't some random Jersey Shore-type idiot celebrity, he's actually a very smart guy who's show is based off political commentary(through satire). He's very similar to Jon Stewart, who is also a very intelligent celebrity who has great debates with his guests from time to time. Anyone who can't see the difference is an idiot(no offense)

On September 06 2012 04:12 NonCorporeal wrote:

The Democrat Party parrots the French Socialist Party, British Labour Party, German SDP, and various other left-wing European parties word-for-word. Making the government as big as possible, banning guns, creating a welfare state, pushing unlimited immigration, pushing socialist globalization (EU, UN, NAFTA, etc.), pushing non-interventionism, backing Palestine instead of Israel, etc.

Even by EU standards, the Democrats are decidedly left-wing.

On September 06 2012 04:17 farvacola wrote:

As someone who spent a fair bit of time studying the philosophical underpinnings of both liberalism and conservatism, you could not be more wrong. Perhaps most importantly, your utterance of "right-wing" sans any temporal context is quite telling of just how little you understand in terms of political ideology. The words we use to represent "liberalism" and "conservatism" are consantly in flux as they seek to more closely match their contemporary usage, just as the usage history of the words "Republican" and "Democrat" would suggest. If you are so inclined to make sweeping generalizations, at least couch them properly.

On September 06 2012 04:12 kwizach wrote:

Do you mind giving a link? For some reason I must have missed that one on his website :-)


I don't think you're familiar with the actual policies of EU parties. The Democratic Party is very clearly not left-wing but center by EU standards.

On September 06 2012 04:12 NonCorporeal wrote:

The Democrat Party parrots the French Socialist Party, British Labour Party, German SDP, and various other left-wing European parties word-for-word. Making the government as big as possible, banning guns, creating a welfare state, pushing unlimited immigration, pushing socialist globalization (EU, UN, NAFTA, etc.), pushing non-interventionism, backing Palestine instead of Israel, etc.

Even by EU standards, the Democrats are decidedly left-wing.

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