President Obama Re-Elected - Page 345

On August 29 2012 02:05 Defacer wrote:
They might as well be promising every American a pony.

On August 29 2012 05:50 dvorakftw wrote:

No, that's the Democrat plan. Oh wait... it was unicorns they were promising everyone.

Both Romney and Ryan's budgets are serious and the claim that you have to detail every single item in advance is simply ignorant bashing by people who don't understand or don't want to understand how budgets are finalized.

On August 29 2012 05:50 dvorakftw wrote:

No, that's the Democrat plan. Oh wait... it was unicorns they were promising everyone.

Both Romney and Ryan's budgets are serious and the claim that you have to detail every single item in advance is simply ignorant bashing by people who don't understand or don't want to understand how budgets are finalized.

On August 29 2012 06:35 Defacer wrote:


You're talking about a plan that reduces 5 TRILLION in tax revenue, without cutting the defense budget or raising capital gains taxes. Asking how you're going to pay for it is perfectly reasonable -- and responsible -- and the equivalent of squabbling over budget line items.

Pretending that it's a serious proposal is what is ignorant, and delusional.

Have you ever had experience drafting a real budget? I have. Largest project was $7 million. And no, you can't magically chop a budget in half and pretend you're not changing the results you're going to deliver.

Mitt Romney officially clinched the GOP presidential nomination Tuesday when a majority of delegates to the Republican National Convention supported his candidacy.

To roaring cheers in the packed Tampa Bay Times Forum, the delegation from New Jersey put Romney above the 1,144-delegate threshhold and a step closer in his five-year quest for the White House.

Earlier, the 2,200-plus convention delegates approved a conservative platform that called for less government, opposed same-sex marriage and endorsed a "human life amendment" to ban abortion with no specific exceptions for cases of rape, incest or when the mother's life is threatened.

On August 28 2012 01:28 dvorakftw wrote:

Because he was the first major, successful American (and arguably world) politician to articulate why the government so often does more harm than good. Socialism in various forms took over everywhere during the 19th and 20th centuries and Reagan's philosophy is the historical counterpoint.

On August 29 2012 07:16 BluePanther wrote:


And going on the route we're going on now is even worse. Whine all you want, but it's a step in the right direction.

On August 29 2012 08:38 white_horse wrote:


The federal deficit is at the point where reversing the bush tax cuts in addition to raising additional revenue has to be part of any budget plan in order to meaningfully dig out of the hole. We are so deep in the hole right now. Refusing any kind of tax increase at this point is pretty delusional and the republican budget plans depend heavily on rapid economic growth that will come from, according to GOP, more tax cuts, which is pretty baseless. We had a decade of the bush tax cuts and where did the economy and deficit go? On the other hand, clinton raised taxes and the economy boomed. How strange.
A realistic budget plan needs to be a combination of cutting government spending as well as raising taxes. Anything else is just partisan bickering.

On August 29 2012 08:24 Saryph wrote:
It is hard to support a political party and it's platform when you read they support an idea that would leave three out of four members of your family, including yourself, dead/unborn.

On August 29 2012 07:16 BluePanther wrote:


And going on the route we're going on now is even worse. Whine all you want, but it's a step in the right direction.

During the 2008 campaign, when I spent several hours each week interviewing Murdoch for the biography I was writing about him and was privy to his constant campaign replays, Romney never earned more from the often non-verbal Murdoch than a snort, guffaw, or grimace. Murdoch, whose core political values are more visceral than ideological, marveled at the contrast between the stolid father—George Romney, running a come-from-behind automobile company—and what he reckoned to be the hopelessly superficial son in the private-equity business. (Murdoch’s oldest daughter, Prudence, was once, briefly and unhappily, married to a private-equity type whom he didn’t like at all.)

Romney, he continues to tell people who find their way into his political conversations (or monologues) this year, can’t be trusted. Romney is “unprincipled”—one of Murdoch’s bad words—by which he usually means too camera-ready, too media-attuned, and too market-focused. And the larger point: He is just plain grumpy about the uninspired Republican nominee, with the implicit threat that, if unappeased, he is capable of throwing a wrench into the works.

Murdoch has an almost aesthetic appreciation of personal strength and inner rectitude (if you wear a sharp suit, you don’t have it)—as well as an antenna for political phoniness. This may well come from enduring all the politicians who regularly suck up to him. But it is also the newsman’s conceit of having seen too much to be fooled by a politician’s public face.

In my conversations with Murdoch, he noted again and again what he saw as the incredulous proposition of someone getting elected in Massachusetts and then trying to win the support of the country’s Christian right. “You’d have to turn yourself inside out,” he said. There are, too, his instinctive aversions. “Slick” is another of his very bad words. He dislikes Romney’s smile. He mutters about Romney’s hair.

On August 29 2012 08:51 darthfoley wrote:


explain?

On August 29 2012 09:23 Saryph wrote:


The section about them banning abortion even if the pregnant woman's life is at risk.

On August 29 2012 08:51 darthfoley wrote:


explain?

On August 29 2012 09:21 xDaunt wrote:
Good lord, Sen. Ayote is a horrible speaker.