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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
Elairec
Profile Joined June 2011
United States410 Posts
November 07 2012 13:13 GMT
#27441
On November 07 2012 21:52 DwD wrote:
Great news to wake up too, and apparently he won quite convincing. Faith in america somewhat restored



3 million votes (so far) difference is a landslide to people now?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 07 2012 13:17 GMT
#27442
On November 07 2012 22:09 Monsen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 21:42 Poorlilrich wrote:
On November 07 2012 21:36 konadora wrote:
i have never been to america but i honestly wanted obama to win for the sake for america, its citizens and the world. so glad obama won and america proving it still had some humanity and common sense left in them.


based on what exactly, you didnt like the big bad republican like everyone else? im not sure why people are celebrating so hard, nothing has changed and obama will continue to run up the debt to astronomical levels until investors are so shit scared of spending money in america that the market will recede harder than it did the first time. but gay marriage and free contraception are all that matters, right?


That, and avoiding a president from an anti science, anti intellectual, faith over reason base of evangelical lunatics.
(You know, the ones that have taken over the republican party in the last decade+ and are now getting the tinfoil hats out, because President Satan Mc Blacky will not only ruin the economy but also come and take away their guns/bibles.)

Sorry, but the w/rest of the world is kinda big on basing decisions on Science and Reason and would like the "leader of the free world" to share those values. Thus the celebrating.
No offense to people wearing magic underwear of course, to each his own.

Don't appreciate "evangelical lunatics". We're not all crazy. And no, I didn't vote for Romney.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
November 07 2012 13:19 GMT
#27443
Obama wins
Virginia goes blue
Warren wins
Same-Sex Marriage passed in both Maine and Maryland
Murdock, Akin, and Walsh are out

I'll take it. gg wp no re
voltaic
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1071 Posts
November 07 2012 13:20 GMT
#27444
i am not american but still i hoped obama to win.
there's not really a place for smallminded racism in the world so y.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
November 07 2012 13:21 GMT
#27445
On November 07 2012 21:53 Poorlilrich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 21:47 Sermokala wrote:
On November 07 2012 21:42 Poorlilrich wrote:
On November 07 2012 21:36 konadora wrote:
i have never been to america but i honestly wanted obama to win for the sake for america, its citizens and the world. so glad obama won and america proving it still had some humanity and common sense left in them.


based on what exactly, you didnt like the big bad republican like everyone else? im not sure why people are celebrating so hard, nothing has changed and obama will continue to run up the debt to astronomical levels until investors are so shit scared of spending money in america that the market will recede harder than it did the first time. but gay marriage and free contraception are all that matters, right?


No need to be bitter about everything. Its pretty obvious from the bush years that reps have been getting a really bad rep around the world. Not to mention how wildly liberal all the other developed nations in the world are tilted.

I would have a large problem with someone voting based on what other people in the world think of american politics but everyone is entilited to their opinions even us big bad republicans .


fair enough, i just dont understand the jubilation. obama defending re-election does not really equate to an economic turnaround, when so far he hasnt done much to dissuade the notion that the debt will continue to grow (i.e. top down government stimulus).

No. From earlier posts:
See Figure 1 and 2: https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/03-16-APB1.pdf

Note that:
CBO Baseline = Hit fiscal cliff.
CBO Alternative = Avoid fiscal cliff

As you can see, Obama's budget stabilizes debt to GDP at around 80%, which is about the halfway point between avoiding the fiscal cliff and hitting the fiscal cliff.

People who accuse Obama of reckless spending need to answer questions of the following sort: Given that Obama inherited a $11.9 trillion debt in 2009, which is projected to be $16.4 trillion in 2012, what reckless spending did Obama embark on to increase the debt by $4.5 trillion over his term?

The stimulus? That's only $0.8 trillion, which is only 18% of that increase. Where did the other 82% of the increase come from?

Obamacare? The CBO says that will reduce, not increase the deficit, but even if you don't believe that, Obamacare doesn't come into effect until 2014, so it can't possibly be responsible for any of the increase.

So where's the increase in the debt coming from? What's Obama recklessly spending all that money on?

Maybe, just maybe, Obama didn't recklessly increase spending, and the increase in the debt mainly comes from the GFC and past policies such as the Bush tax cuts.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
November 07 2012 13:28 GMT
#27446
On November 07 2012 22:20 Denda Reloaded wrote:
i am not american but still i hoped obama to win.
there's not really a place for smallminded racism in the world so y.

Some people on my facebook were saying they're really stressed and really hope Obama wins. I'm thinking.. you're Canadian.. it's well within your right to be interested and want someone to win, but STRESSED?
Refer to my post.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 13:30:45
November 07 2012 13:29 GMT
#27447
On November 07 2012 22:17 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 22:09 Monsen wrote:
On November 07 2012 21:42 Poorlilrich wrote:
On November 07 2012 21:36 konadora wrote:
i have never been to america but i honestly wanted obama to win for the sake for america, its citizens and the world. so glad obama won and america proving it still had some humanity and common sense left in them.


based on what exactly, you didnt like the big bad republican like everyone else? im not sure why people are celebrating so hard, nothing has changed and obama will continue to run up the debt to astronomical levels until investors are so shit scared of spending money in america that the market will recede harder than it did the first time. but gay marriage and free contraception are all that matters, right?


That, and avoiding a president from an anti science, anti intellectual, faith over reason base of evangelical lunatics.
(You know, the ones that have taken over the republican party in the last decade+ and are now getting the tinfoil hats out, because President Satan Mc Blacky will not only ruin the economy but also come and take away their guns/bibles.)

Sorry, but the w/rest of the world is kinda big on basing decisions on Science and Reason and would like the "leader of the free world" to share those values. Thus the celebrating.
No offense to people wearing magic underwear of course, to each his own.

Don't appreciate "evangelical lunatics". We're not all crazy. And no, I didn't vote for Romney.


Being evangelical doesn't make you a lunatic and I didn't say that, did I?
You're not all crazy. Hell, the lunatics are probably the minority. Unfortunately the crazies are yelling the loudest (by far) and seem to be heard the most. (see republican nominees 2012)
I sincerely hope that the moderate republicans manage to take their party back one day, because while I mostly disagree with their views, I still think a democracy needs debates (as opposed to frothing at the mouth yelling) with differing points of view to work.
11 years and counting- TL #680
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 13:38:26
November 07 2012 13:30 GMT
#27448


Relevant to the dude who was preaching science last page
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 07 2012 13:36 GMT
#27449
I wonder how the poll results would've been if it was only non-americans voting, cuz I don't think I've met a single person IRL who hasn't prayed for Obama to win this.

Definitely was a sigh of relief to wake up to this morning.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14203 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 13:43:34
November 07 2012 13:37 GMT
#27450
I havn't seen anything like that before. That guy does nova on tv right?

Basicaly bush increased funding to sciences and clinton lowered funding to it. Bush had to play politics twords the issues that got him elected but he did end up supporting science more then the democrats.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 07 2012 13:38 GMT
#27451
Right-o sorry about that
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 07 2012 13:39 GMT
#27452
Crap I'm searching but I can't find it. BBC News had a lovely chart less than a week ago showing exactly that HaXXspetten. I haven't found it yet but trust me on this- in over 30 countries Obama won by a landslide. In fact, the only country that didn't overwhelmingly vote for Obama was Pakistan (understandable).
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
November 07 2012 13:44 GMT
#27453
In Germany polls showed ~96% for Obama.
11 years and counting- TL #680
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
November 07 2012 13:44 GMT
#27454
On November 07 2012 22:28 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 22:20 Denda Reloaded wrote:
i am not american but still i hoped obama to win.
there's not really a place for smallminded racism in the world so y.

Some people on my facebook were saying they're really stressed and really hope Obama wins. I'm thinking.. you're Canadian.. it's well within your right to be interested and want someone to win, but STRESSED?


Yes it's not like the US economic, environmental and foreign politics have a huge impact on the rest of the world.

Oh wait...


If you want a concrete reason to be stressed, a Romney administration would for example be more likely to start an open war with Iran than an Obama administration. They would also support Israel no matter what in the Israeli-Palestianan conflict.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 07 2012 13:46 GMT
#27455


jill stein. 45 minutes.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 07 2012 13:47 GMT
#27456
Honestly I blame the pundits and 24/7 news channels as much as the politicians for some of our crazier things. Some woman on CNN was going on and on a half hour ago about how if we don't attack Syria it will make the US look weak after calling for the end of Assads rule.

1. The whole world sees her say uncomfortable shit like that. They don't see what Americans think. Just what the convoluted 24 hour news channel said that minute and will quickly forget about.

2. It makes some Americans believe that is true without considering if that is true.

The pop news worries me.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
November 07 2012 13:48 GMT
#27457
It makes me sad that most Canadians seem way more invested in this election than any of our own. Apparently like 75% of Canadians were down for a Obama re-election lol. Good on him, I hope he does the US proud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
November 07 2012 13:51 GMT
#27458
On November 07 2012 22:48 Mementoss wrote:
It makes me sad that most Canadians seem way more invested in this election than any of our own. Apparently like 75% of Canadians were down for a Obama re-election lol. Good on him, I hope he does the US proud.

It think it's because when it comes to entertainment the American elections are hard to beat. The Swedish elections are a snoozefest in comparison.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
TheFrankOne
Profile Joined December 2010
United States667 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 13:53:59
November 07 2012 13:52 GMT
#27459
On November 07 2012 22:37 Sermokala wrote:
I havn't seen anything like that before. That guy does nova on tv right?

Basicaly bush increased funding to sciences and clinton lowered funding to it. Bush had to play politics twords the issues that got him elected but he did end up supporting science more then the democrats.


Neil Degrasse Tyson is awesome. In this case though, I would put those policies on Bush's out of control spending on everything from tax cuts to science to war.

Edit: also out of control spending on medicare, the Republicans can't really be trusted with the budget.

On November 07 2012 22:13 Elairec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 21:52 DwD wrote:
Great news to wake up too, and apparently he won quite convincing. Faith in america somewhat restored



3 million votes (so far) difference is a landslide to people now?


Well, compared to winning the electoral college and losing the popular vote, which was considered somewhat likely, its pretty "convincing", he never said landslide. I thought the same thing, he won by more than expected.
Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
November 07 2012 13:54 GMT
#27460
On November 07 2012 22:51 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 22:48 Mementoss wrote:
It makes me sad that most Canadians seem way more invested in this election than any of our own. Apparently like 75% of Canadians were down for a Obama re-election lol. Good on him, I hope he does the US proud.

It think it's because when it comes to entertainment the American elections are hard to beat. The Swedish elections are a snoozefest in comparison.

I'd rather call it a clusterfuck...
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