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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
November 07 2012 13:56 GMT
#27461
great news
gg USA
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 07 2012 13:56 GMT
#27462
On November 07 2012 10:01 Zealotdriver wrote:
OBAMA WINS.
You heard it here first.

:D

Romney was absolutely pwned.
Turn off the radio
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 07 2012 13:58 GMT
#27463
Couldn't be happier with my state. Amendment to state constitution to say marriage is between an man and a woman: Failed. Amendment requiring photo ID to vote: Failed. Went for Obama, and the race against the crazy lady in the sixth district Michelle Bachmann is looking like it is going to be a recount. WP MN
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
November 07 2012 14:00 GMT
#27464
On November 07 2012 22:54 Roachu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 22:51 nihlon wrote:
On November 07 2012 22:48 Mementoss wrote:
It makes me sad that most Canadians seem way more invested in this election than any of our own. Apparently like 75% of Canadians were down for a Obama re-election lol. Good on him, I hope he does the US proud.

It think it's because when it comes to entertainment the American elections are hard to beat. The Swedish elections are a snoozefest in comparison.

I'd rather call it a clusterfuck...

The American or the Swedish?
Banelings are too cute to blow up
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46705 Posts
November 07 2012 14:01 GMT
#27465
On November 07 2012 22:13 Elairec wrote:
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On November 07 2012 21:52 DwD wrote:
Great news to wake up too, and apparently he won quite convincing. Faith in america somewhat restored



3 million votes (so far) difference is a landslide to people now?


Depending on what states those votes are in (due to the electoral college system), yup.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 07 2012 14:06 GMT
#27466
On November 07 2012 23:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 22:13 Elairec wrote:
On November 07 2012 21:52 DwD wrote:
Great news to wake up too, and apparently he won quite convincing. Faith in america somewhat restored



3 million votes (so far) difference is a landslide to people now?


Depending on what states those votes are in (due to the electoral college system), yup.


That and Obama was down at one point almost 2 million votes I believe.

Plus it's more of a landslide in terms of the votes that matter, IE: 306 to 203
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 07 2012 14:10 GMT
#27467
Almost happy with mine as well. Questions were pretty boring but voted yes on both.

That obstructionist clown Bob Menendez almost got voted out but then the urban counties came in last and mirked Joe Kyrillos hard.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 07 2012 14:11 GMT
#27468
On November 07 2012 22:13 Elairec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 21:52 DwD wrote:
Great news to wake up too, and apparently he won quite convincing. Faith in america somewhat restored



3 million votes (so far) difference is a landslide to people now?


Winning the popular vote by possibly 2-3 percentage points is a much more convincing win than all the B.S. pundits started spouting last night about him losing the popular vote and winning the EC (because they apparently missed California, Washington, and Oregon still counting their votes).
BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
November 07 2012 14:14 GMT
#27469
On November 07 2012 23:11 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 22:13 Elairec wrote:
On November 07 2012 21:52 DwD wrote:
Great news to wake up too, and apparently he won quite convincing. Faith in america somewhat restored



3 million votes (so far) difference is a landslide to people now?


Winning the popular vote by possibly 2-3 percentage points is a much more convincing win than all the B.S. pundits started spouting last night about him losing the popular vote and winning the EC (because they apparently missed California, Washington, and Oregon still counting their votes).


Yeah, last night I was laughing my ass off at the Fox news people who kept harping on that. It's not like there's this big giant blob of a state on the west coast with a huge population that consistently votes democrat that they haven't yet factored into their counts....
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 07 2012 14:17 GMT
#27470
On November 07 2012 23:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Almost happy with mine as well. Questions were pretty boring but voted yes on both.

That obstructionist clown Bob Menendez almost got voted out but then the urban counties came in last and mirked Joe Kyrillos hard.

You mean merc'd?
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
November 07 2012 14:22 GMT
#27471
Watching the news channels of the count made it seem deceptively close.

The lower population areas got their counts done faster(many of which leaned republican).
West cost states were counted later(many which lean democrat)
The 'heatmap' they kept showing on fox(i know) was like 80% covered in red - Due to large land mass/low population republican areas and many democrat states(particularly the north-east coast) are small by land mass.
Major Swing states were counted late/took a long time to 'call' compared to most others(Obama ended up winning all swing states except North Carolina).

I don't think it was a land slide but it certainly wasn't close IMO.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 14:34:18
November 07 2012 14:31 GMT
#27472
On November 07 2012 23:22 Resent wrote:
Watching the news channels of the count made it seem deceptively close.

The lower population areas got their counts done faster(many of which leaned republican).
West cost states were counted later(many which lean democrat)
The 'heatmap' they kept showing on fox(i know) was like 80% covered in red - Due to large land mass/low population republican areas and many democrat states(particularly the north-east coast) are small by land mass.
Major Swing states were counted late/took a long time to 'call' compared to most others(Obama ended up winning all swing states except North Carolina).

I don't think it was a land slide but it certainly wasn't close IMO.


The popular vote is 2 points going for obama. It was close don't be silly.

also the tv stations need the ratings. They got to entertain the republicans to keep watching even if they arn't going to win. and the dems to stay tuned to make sure that obama wins.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
silynxer
Profile Joined April 2006
Germany439 Posts
November 07 2012 14:31 GMT
#27473
I really hope these results make some people on this forum realize just how far out of reality they were, living in their right wing bubble. But somehow I got the feeling that next election they will still listen to Dick Morris, Karl Rove and all the other horrible pundits of their choice.
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
November 07 2012 14:31 GMT
#27474
Great news!

Would have been such a shame if the republicans won.
Set it ablaze!
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
November 07 2012 14:35 GMT
#27475
what about colorado leagalizing Marijuna? does that break a federal law?
Elairec
Profile Joined June 2011
United States410 Posts
November 07 2012 14:35 GMT
#27476
yes
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
November 07 2012 14:36 GMT
#27477
On November 07 2012 22:21 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 21:53 Poorlilrich wrote:
On November 07 2012 21:47 Sermokala wrote:
On November 07 2012 21:42 Poorlilrich wrote:
On November 07 2012 21:36 konadora wrote:
i have never been to america but i honestly wanted obama to win for the sake for america, its citizens and the world. so glad obama won and america proving it still had some humanity and common sense left in them.


based on what exactly, you didnt like the big bad republican like everyone else? im not sure why people are celebrating so hard, nothing has changed and obama will continue to run up the debt to astronomical levels until investors are so shit scared of spending money in america that the market will recede harder than it did the first time. but gay marriage and free contraception are all that matters, right?


No need to be bitter about everything. Its pretty obvious from the bush years that reps have been getting a really bad rep around the world. Not to mention how wildly liberal all the other developed nations in the world are tilted.

I would have a large problem with someone voting based on what other people in the world think of american politics but everyone is entilited to their opinions even us big bad republicans .


fair enough, i just dont understand the jubilation. obama defending re-election does not really equate to an economic turnaround, when so far he hasnt done much to dissuade the notion that the debt will continue to grow (i.e. top down government stimulus).

No. From earlier posts:
Show nested quote +
See Figure 1 and 2: https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/03-16-APB1.pdf

Note that:
CBO Baseline = Hit fiscal cliff.
CBO Alternative = Avoid fiscal cliff

As you can see, Obama's budget stabilizes debt to GDP at around 80%, which is about the halfway point between avoiding the fiscal cliff and hitting the fiscal cliff.

Show nested quote +
People who accuse Obama of reckless spending need to answer questions of the following sort: Given that Obama inherited a $11.9 trillion debt in 2009, which is projected to be $16.4 trillion in 2012, what reckless spending did Obama embark on to increase the debt by $4.5 trillion over his term?

The stimulus? That's only $0.8 trillion, which is only 18% of that increase. Where did the other 82% of the increase come from?

Obamacare? The CBO says that will reduce, not increase the deficit, but even if you don't believe that, Obamacare doesn't come into effect until 2014, so it can't possibly be responsible for any of the increase.

So where's the increase in the debt coming from? What's Obama recklessly spending all that money on?

Maybe, just maybe, Obama didn't recklessly increase spending, and the increase in the debt mainly comes from the GFC and past policies such as the Bush tax cuts.


Forgot to bookmark your compilation of posts, gonna try to find it now so I can actually learn...
Yargh
GrimmJ
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada131 Posts
November 07 2012 14:36 GMT
#27478
I know Obama won, but are there any numbers on how many people voted? This election felt bigger, I'm curious to see what the turnout was.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
November 07 2012 14:36 GMT
#27479
On November 07 2012 23:35 HeeroFX wrote:
what about colorado leagalizing Marijuna? does that break a federal law?


It does but obama has said that hes not going to have the justice department spend any money enforcing that law.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44448 Posts
November 07 2012 14:37 GMT
#27480
I'm very happy for all the Americans this will affect from both sides of the political spectrum. The majority of Romney voters will be better off under Obama, the system works.
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