EPTPresident Obama Re-Elected - Page 1372
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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here. The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301 | ||
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On November 07 2012 20:05 Callynn wrote: My faith in the U.S. people is fully restored - your country always did horrible (nationally, but most importantly internationally) while under the rule of those conservative republicans. May Obama finally fix the economy for you guys, and hopefully in a chain reaction - the rest of the world. Well voted  We tried to do it under Clinton every other year but failed miserably in every country we went to. | ||
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DamnCats
United States1472 Posts
First day hes in office.. GUYS GUYS... "Romney doubled the deficit!!!!!!!" I crack myself up. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
I'm kind of sad it's over though, been fun to read the thread, follow the news, watch debates, discuss, I've learned a lot, I'm sure most of you are tired of it though  . | ||
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konadora
Singapore66155 Posts
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
On November 07 2012 20:04 zatic wrote: So local media here is now all about the "fiscal cliff" that looms ahead on Dec 31st. With the political situation practically the same it was in Summer 2011, do you think there will be a solution for the budget? How will it likely look like? No fiscal cliff imo. -There is nothing to win for the republicans doing this, contrary to last year where they could have had the hope to ruin obamas presidency and take the next election, and even last year they didnt push through in the end.The republicans would do best staying low profile for now, while rethinking their position in american society. -The usa guaranteed at the g20 summit that they would solve the fiscal cliff. -There is to much to win by solving the cliff, the usa economy is just turning upwards and it would be incredibly stupid to ruin this change of a full recovery. -It will look verry simple, they will raise the debt ceiling once more. The media did a nice job, delaying the obvious as much as possible lol. | ||
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Poorlilrich
Australia262 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:36 konadora wrote: i have never been to america but i honestly wanted obama to win for the sake for america, its citizens and the world. so glad obama won and america proving it still had some humanity and common sense left in them. based on what exactly, you didnt like the big bad republican like everyone else? im not sure why people are celebrating so hard, nothing has changed and obama will continue to run up the debt to astronomical levels until investors are so shit scared of spending money in america that the market will recede harder than it did the first time. but gay marriage and free contraception are all that matters, right? | ||
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FeUerFlieGe
United States1193 Posts
On November 07 2012 20:06 r00ty wrote: Dear god, those people... Makes my head hurt and is kinda sad though. Thankfully the majority of the very decent and cool americans here on TL already restored my faith in your country. Also thanks to all for not letting Romney become president! looks like peoples status's on my facepook last night. | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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Sermokala
United States13842 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:42 Poorlilrich wrote: based on what exactly, you didnt like the big bad republican like everyone else? im not sure why people are celebrating so hard, nothing has changed and obama will continue to run up the debt to astronomical levels until investors are so shit scared of spending money in america that the market will recede harder than it did the first time. but gay marriage and free contraception are all that matters, right? No need to be bitter about everything. Its pretty obvious from the bush years that reps have been getting a really bad rep around the world. Not to mention how wildly liberal all the other developed nations in the world are tilted. I would have a large problem with someone voting based on what other people in the world think of american politics but everyone is entilited to their opinions even us big bad republicans . | ||
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BallinWitStalin
1177 Posts
I really, really hate pundits and this whole punditry thing that's cropped up in the last decade or so. Having random people on the news talk about their ridiculous beliefs and opinions without any kind of evidence was a terrible trend. Then along comes a dude with an evidence based method, pundits hate on it, and BAM. Pundits lose hard. That's been satisfying to watch. | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
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Poorlilrich
Australia262 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:47 Sermokala wrote: No need to be bitter about everything. Its pretty obvious from the bush years that reps have been getting a really bad rep around the world. Not to mention how wildly liberal all the other developed nations in the world are tilted. I would have a large problem with someone voting based on what other people in the world think of american politics but everyone is entilited to their opinions even us big bad republicans . fair enough, i just dont understand the jubilation. obama defending re-election does not really equate to an economic turnaround, when so far he hasnt done much to dissuade the notion that the debt will continue to grow (i.e. top down government stimulus). | ||
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Funnytoss
Taiwan1471 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:49 BallinWitStalin wrote: Is anyone else stoked Nate Silver did so fucking well? I really, really hate pundits and this whole punditry thing that's cropped up in the last decade or so. Having random people on the news talk about their ridiculous beliefs and opinions without any kind of evidence was a terrible trend. Then along comes a dude with an evidence based method, pundits hate on it, and BAM. Pundits lose hard. That's been satisfying to watch. Oh indeed. There was some ridiculous mud-slinging going Silver's way that was partly out of ignorance (it appears that way too many have no idea how polling and statistics work), but partly because... well, some people's jobs depend on them being able to spew out speculation unchallenged, and when Silver says, "actually, it's really not that sensational" and potentially takes away the horse race narrative (and hence a reason to keep watching these pundits), they lash out with all they got, which was, thankfully, pretty damn weak. | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:42 Poorlilrich wrote: based on what exactly, you didnt like the big bad republican like everyone else? im not sure why people are celebrating so hard, nothing has changed and obama will continue to run up the debt to astronomical levels until investors are so shit scared of spending money in america that the market will recede harder than it did the first time. but gay marriage and free contraception are all that matters, right? The investors have food in their plates and fridge. I don't care about them. | ||
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/11/07/obamas-re-election-what-his-campaign-slogan-forward-really-meant-what-his-victory-means/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter If progressives and, more importantly, American citizens accept the status quo over the next four years (which is what Obama’s re-election gave the country), one can expect the Obama administration to move forward with the War on Drugs. It can expect the administration to move forward with the Surveillance State. It can expect the administration to move forward with the perpetual War on Terror (which Obama does not call the War on Terror so he can appear different from Bush). It can expect the administration to move forward with policies of US empire. | ||
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esperanto
Germany357 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:42 Poorlilrich wrote: based on what exactly, you didnt like the big bad republican like everyone else? im not sure why people are celebrating so hard, nothing has changed and obama will continue to run up the debt to astronomical levels until investors are so shit scared of spending money in america that the market will recede harder than it did the first time. but gay marriage and free contraception are all that matters, right? There is a huge change in how americas foreign policy is seen under obama compared to bush and how the republicans in generell see foreign politics. Romney showed during the campaign that he understands world-politics as a 3rd-grade schoolyard, where you have to be the crazy bully to keep control. "Getting tough on china", "russia is our numbre one enemy" and all this strong leadership talk... c'mon foreign policy is not a hollywood movie. I remember when Bush spreat anger against france and germany because they didn't want to join the war in iraq because they knew that the "evidence" of the WMD was fake. Obama understands that foreign policy is a complex matter where every country has its own interessts and goals. Obama acts clever for his own country but still be is reliable for his allies and that is alot more important than any "strong leadership" talk the republicans are showing. | ||
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Collings
56 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:36 konadora wrote: i have never been to america but i honestly wanted obama to win for the sake for america, its citizens and the world. so glad obama won and america proving it still had some humanity and common sense left in them. Horribly presumptive post. So if Romney won Americans would have no humanity and common sense? Fuck off. | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:42 Poorlilrich wrote: based on what exactly, you didnt like the big bad republican like everyone else? im not sure why people are celebrating so hard, nothing has changed and obama will continue to run up the debt to astronomical levels until investors are so shit scared of spending money in america that the market will recede harder than it did the first time. but gay marriage and free contraception are all that matters, right? That, and avoiding a president from an anti science, anti intellectual, faith over reason base of evangelical lunatics. (You know, the ones that have taken over the republican party in the last decade+ and are now getting the tinfoil hats out, because President Satan Mc Blacky will not only ruin the economy but also come and take away their guns/bibles.) Sorry, but the w/rest of the world is kinda big on basing decisions on Science and Reason and would like the "leader of the free world" to share those values. Thus the celebrating. No offense to people wearing magic underwear of course, to each his own. | ||
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