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On November 08 2012 00:33 RJGooner wrote:
Not going to lie was a pretty bad day yesterday for me personally. Romney loses, and then to make things far worse California approves Proposition 30. Really lost a lot of faith in my fellow state voters.
I guess this is how liberals felt in 2004 
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I'm very happy about the result.  Congratulations, USA!
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On November 08 2012 00:33 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 00:09 TheTenthDoc wrote:On November 07 2012 23:31 Sermokala wrote:On November 07 2012 23:22 Resent wrote:
Watching the news channels of the count made it seem deceptively close.
The lower population areas got their counts done faster(many of which leaned republican).
West cost states were counted later(many which lean democrat)
The 'heatmap' they kept showing on fox(i know) was like 80% covered in red - Due to large land mass/low population republican areas and many democrat states(particularly the north-east coast) are small by land mass.
Major Swing states were counted late/took a long time to 'call' compared to most others(Obama ended up winning all swing states except North Carolina).
I don't think it was a land slide but it certainly wasn't close IMO. The popular vote is 2 points going for obama. It was close don't be silly. also the tv stations need the ratings. They got to entertain the republicans to keep watching even if they arn't going to win. and the dems to stay tuned to make sure that obama wins. I dunno, 2 percentage points for Obama is certainly a lot closer than a toss-up. Especially given how Obama was polling in swing states before the race. There's really no argument the pundits (left and right) can make to justify themselves as anything more than entertainers today. Less then one percent of the nations population voted more for obama then romney. thats a pretty good reason to justify sayings its close for people. All news is entertainment. Its the only reason why you'd watch fox news other then just catching the results the next day in your newspaper anyway.
News in the 60s, 70s, even 80s was actually informative news. It wasn't blowhards with no idea what they're talking about pretending to know what they're talking about.
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On November 08 2012 00:41 ZeaL. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 00:12 Recognizable wrote:On November 07 2012 23:50 ZeaL. wrote:On November 07 2012 23:45 CajunMan wrote:
Looks like our little experiment with democracy has failed like all the other countries before the takers now out weigh the makers and we might as well be a European country now on our way down the drain. Congrats you guys win a few more years of free stuff just in time to finish crushing our economy and ensure all the large businesses they are not welcome here. Yeah man, my man Obama has got all these checks lined up for me, gonna be making babies, smoking crack, and living the big life off of welfare. 4 more years of a free ride awww yeah. As an European who has visited the US more then I can count on my hands(My sister studies there) and has been to probably every European country there is(We go on holidays a lot). We might be, overall, slightly less wealthy, but every European country has been, in my opinion, a more pleasurable experience than the US. The people feel more much more genuine, happier and the cultures are much less wasteful than the US. Anyway, this is just my experience. Based on where I've been I dunno man. The people I met in Paris and Lausanne were dicks. If I had to rank the people I've met I'd put Southern France > Ottawa, CA > West Coast US > Slovenia > NE US > Southern Italy > Paris > Northern Italy > Southern US > Swiss (Alps are beautiful.. people are not). But that's just my experience.
I have a couple of well traveled German friends who swear that people in America are far nicer and more pleasant, happier people than Europeans. They have said it seems overly polite and kind of fake sometimes but I think we now have a clear reason why generalizations based on anecdotes are bad. Experiences can change from town to town. 2 people can have completely different opinions of the same place after all.
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On November 07 2012 23:50 ZeaL. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 23:45 CajunMan wrote:
Looks like our little experiment with democracy has failed like all the other countries before the takers now out weigh the makers and we might as well be a European country now on our way down the drain. Congrats you guys win a few more years of free stuff just in time to finish crushing our economy and ensure all the large businesses they are not welcome here. Yeah man, my man Obama has got all these checks lined up for me, gonna be making babies, smoking crack, and living the big life off of welfare. 4 more years of a free ride awww yeah.
Always wondered why posts like this aren't bannable offenses. Aren't we suppose to keep the rhetoric to a bare minimum?
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I just listened to Obama's victory speech. That guy is a seriously good orator. :D
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Congratulations USA for voting wisely!
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Def happy to see some of the state votes.
Legalize pot in 2 states and Legalize Gay marriage in 3.
Now all of those "protection of marriage" groups can't fall back on the argument that no state has ever voted for it.
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Fiouuuuuuuuu. Happy to see Obama winning. I saw a documentary last week on Arte (French-German channel) on the Tea Party and i was really afraid about the extremist of the Republicans: "we are the only country of freedom, europeans are socialist (insult?) and not free, guns=freedom (WTF?), Obama is a crypto communist, an islamist and the reincarnation of Hitler (and maybe a Sith or a Cylon?), school are evil the gouvernement don't have to educate the population (it's for the family), homosexuality is a disease, freedom=pay 10000doll in hospital or die, US Gouvernement have to spend billons of doll on army but don't have to help poor and sick people, God everywhere...."
I have no right to give my opinion on American politics, i don't live in this country and US citizens can choose their future and their gouvernement. From a foreign point of view it's just nice to see sometime the good face of US, America that we love (even the french^^).
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On November 08 2012 01:03 Wertheron wrote:
Fiouuuuuuuuu. Happy to see Obama winning. I saw a documentary last week on Arte (French-German channel) on the Tea Party and i was really afraid about the extremist of the Republicans: "we are the only country of freedom, europeans are socialist (insult?) and not free, guns=freedom (WTF?), Obama is a crypto communist, an islamist and the reincarnation of Hitler (and maybe a Sith or a Cylon?), school are evil the gouvernement don't have to educate the population (it's for the family), homosexuality is a disease, freedom=pay 10000doll in hospital or die, US Gouvernement have to spend billons of doll on army but don't have to help poor and sick people, God everywhere...."
I have no right to give my opinion on American politics, i don't live in this country and US citizens can choose their future and their gouvernement. From a foreign point of view it's just nice to see sometime the good face of US, America that we love (even the french^^).
I know you saw it on television, but is there anyway you could provide a link to that documentary? I would be very interested in it.
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disappointed with the election results, very happy with the results on social policy (gay marriage, pot, etc.)
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On November 08 2012 00:41 ZeaL. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 00:12 Recognizable wrote:On November 07 2012 23:50 ZeaL. wrote:On November 07 2012 23:45 CajunMan wrote:
Looks like our little experiment with democracy has failed like all the other countries before the takers now out weigh the makers and we might as well be a European country now on our way down the drain. Congrats you guys win a few more years of free stuff just in time to finish crushing our economy and ensure all the large businesses they are not welcome here. Yeah man, my man Obama has got all these checks lined up for me, gonna be making babies, smoking crack, and living the big life off of welfare. 4 more years of a free ride awww yeah. As an European who has visited the US more then I can count on my hands(My sister studies there) and has been to probably every European country there is(We go on holidays a lot). We might be, overall, slightly less wealthy, but every European country has been, in my opinion, a more pleasurable experience than the US. The people feel more much more genuine, happier and the cultures are much less wasteful than the US. Anyway, this is just my experience. Based on where I've been I dunno man. The people I met in Paris and Lausanne were dicks. If I had to rank the people I've met I'd put Southern France > Ottawa, CA > West Coast US > Slovenia > NE US > Southern Italy > Paris > Northern Italy > Southern US > Swiss (Alps are beautiful.. people are not). But that's just my experience.
Have you ever been to the Midwest? specifically around Minnesota? its a great state and we got the largest mall in the usa. No reason to vacation anywhere else in america.
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Yay obama but booooo prop b passed. Why the govt gotta enforce condoms and monitorporn studios in person. Lame. Lulz
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On November 08 2012 01:06 PassiveAce wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 01:03 Wertheron wrote:
Fiouuuuuuuuu. Happy to see Obama winning. I saw a documentary last week on Arte (French-German channel) on the Tea Party and i was really afraid about the extremist of the Republicans: "we are the only country of freedom, europeans are socialist (insult?) and not free, guns=freedom (WTF?), Obama is a crypto communist, an islamist and the reincarnation of Hitler (and maybe a Sith or a Cylon?), school are evil the gouvernement don't have to educate the population (it's for the family), homosexuality is a disease, freedom=pay 10000doll in hospital or die, US Gouvernement have to spend billons of doll on army but don't have to help poor and sick people, God everywhere...."
I have no right to give my opinion on American politics, i don't live in this country and US citizens can choose their future and their gouvernement. From a foreign point of view it's just nice to see sometime the good face of US, America that we love (even the french^^).
I know you saw it on television, but is there anyway you could provide a link to that documentary? I would be very interested in it.
Of course, it's online until... today ^^: http://videos.arte.tv/fr/videos/au-coeur-du-tea-party--7024594.html (in French -it is in german if you want in the German Arte site- "Inside the Tea Party", the Tea Party in Tennesse, 90min)
EDIT: i forgot, Global Warning don't exist, Universe are perfect, the man can't change the creation of God (just a progressist conspiration).
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On November 08 2012 01:07 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 00:41 ZeaL. wrote:On November 08 2012 00:12 Recognizable wrote:On November 07 2012 23:50 ZeaL. wrote:On November 07 2012 23:45 CajunMan wrote:
Looks like our little experiment with democracy has failed like all the other countries before the takers now out weigh the makers and we might as well be a European country now on our way down the drain. Congrats you guys win a few more years of free stuff just in time to finish crushing our economy and ensure all the large businesses they are not welcome here. Yeah man, my man Obama has got all these checks lined up for me, gonna be making babies, smoking crack, and living the big life off of welfare. 4 more years of a free ride awww yeah. As an European who has visited the US more then I can count on my hands(My sister studies there) and has been to probably every European country there is(We go on holidays a lot). We might be, overall, slightly less wealthy, but every European country has been, in my opinion, a more pleasurable experience than the US. The people feel more much more genuine, happier and the cultures are much less wasteful than the US. Anyway, this is just my experience. Based on where I've been I dunno man. The people I met in Paris and Lausanne were dicks. If I had to rank the people I've met I'd put Southern France > Ottawa, CA > West Coast US > Slovenia > NE US > Southern Italy > Paris > Northern Italy > Southern US > Swiss (Alps are beautiful.. people are not). But that's just my experience. Have you ever been to the Midwest? specifically around Minnesota? its a great state and we got the largest mall in the usa. No reason to vacation anywhere else in america.
Only part I haven't been to. Everyone I've met from there has been really nice though.
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On November 08 2012 00:54 TheFrankOne wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 00:41 ZeaL. wrote:On November 08 2012 00:12 Recognizable wrote:On November 07 2012 23:50 ZeaL. wrote:On November 07 2012 23:45 CajunMan wrote:
Looks like our little experiment with democracy has failed like all the other countries before the takers now out weigh the makers and we might as well be a European country now on our way down the drain. Congrats you guys win a few more years of free stuff just in time to finish crushing our economy and ensure all the large businesses they are not welcome here. Yeah man, my man Obama has got all these checks lined up for me, gonna be making babies, smoking crack, and living the big life off of welfare. 4 more years of a free ride awww yeah. As an European who has visited the US more then I can count on my hands(My sister studies there) and has been to probably every European country there is(We go on holidays a lot). We might be, overall, slightly less wealthy, but every European country has been, in my opinion, a more pleasurable experience than the US. The people feel more much more genuine, happier and the cultures are much less wasteful than the US. Anyway, this is just my experience. Based on where I've been I dunno man. The people I met in Paris and Lausanne were dicks. If I had to rank the people I've met I'd put Southern France > Ottawa, CA > West Coast US > Slovenia > NE US > Southern Italy > Paris > Northern Italy > Southern US > Swiss (Alps are beautiful.. people are not). But that's just my experience. I have a couple of well traveled German friends who swear that people in America are far nicer and more pleasant, happier people than Europeans. They have said it seems overly polite and kind of fake sometimes but I think we now have a clear reason why generalizations based on anecdotes are bad. Experiences can change from town to town. 2 people can have completely different opinions of the same place after all.
No way dude, every person you meet represent the country you're in, common knowledge! 
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On November 08 2012 01:06 PassiveAce wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 01:03 Wertheron wrote:
Fiouuuuuuuuu. Happy to see Obama winning. I saw a documentary last week on Arte (French-German channel) on the Tea Party and i was really afraid about the extremist of the Republicans: "we are the only country of freedom, europeans are socialist (insult?) and not free, guns=freedom (WTF?), Obama is a crypto communist, an islamist and the reincarnation of Hitler (and maybe a Sith or a Cylon?), school are evil the gouvernement don't have to educate the population (it's for the family), homosexuality is a disease, freedom=pay 10000doll in hospital or die, US Gouvernement have to spend billons of doll on army but don't have to help poor and sick people, God everywhere...."
I have no right to give my opinion on American politics, i don't live in this country and US citizens can choose their future and their gouvernement. From a foreign point of view it's just nice to see sometime the good face of US, America that we love (even the french^^).
I know you saw it on television, but is there anyway you could provide a link to that documentary? I would be very interested in it.
They probably picked the biggest wackos in the tea party and interviewed them.
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On November 08 2012 01:12 Wertheron wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 01:06 PassiveAce wrote:On November 08 2012 01:03 Wertheron wrote:
Fiouuuuuuuuu. Happy to see Obama winning. I saw a documentary last week on Arte (French-German channel) on the Tea Party and i was really afraid about the extremist of the Republicans: "we are the only country of freedom, europeans are socialist (insult?) and not free, guns=freedom (WTF?), Obama is a crypto communist, an islamist and the reincarnation of Hitler (and maybe a Sith or a Cylon?), school are evil the gouvernement don't have to educate the population (it's for the family), homosexuality is a disease, freedom=pay 10000doll in hospital or die, US Gouvernement have to spend billons of doll on army but don't have to help poor and sick people, God everywhere...."
I have no right to give my opinion on American politics, i don't live in this country and US citizens can choose their future and their gouvernement. From a foreign point of view it's just nice to see sometime the good face of US, America that we love (even the french^^).
I know you saw it on television, but is there anyway you could provide a link to that documentary? I would be very interested in it. Of course, it's online until... today ^^: http://videos.arte.tv/fr/videos/au-coeur-du-tea-party--7024594.html (in French -it is in german if you want in the German Arte site- "Inside the Tea Party", the Tea Party in Tennesse, 90min) EDIT: i forgot, Global Warning don't exist, Universe are perfect, the man can't change the creation of God (just a progressist conspiration).
Thank you, Sir!
On November 08 2012 01:19 ChApFoU wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 01:06 PassiveAce wrote:On November 08 2012 01:03 Wertheron wrote:
Fiouuuuuuuuu. Happy to see Obama winning. I saw a documentary last week on Arte (French-German channel) on the Tea Party and i was really afraid about the extremist of the Republicans: "we are the only country of freedom, europeans are socialist (insult?) and not free, guns=freedom (WTF?), Obama is a crypto communist, an islamist and the reincarnation of Hitler (and maybe a Sith or a Cylon?), school are evil the gouvernement don't have to educate the population (it's for the family), homosexuality is a disease, freedom=pay 10000doll in hospital or die, US Gouvernement have to spend billons of doll on army but don't have to help poor and sick people, God everywhere...."
I have no right to give my opinion on American politics, i don't live in this country and US citizens can choose their future and their gouvernement. From a foreign point of view it's just nice to see sometime the good face of US, America that we love (even the french^^).
I know you saw it on television, but is there anyway you could provide a link to that documentary? I would be very interested in it. They probably picked the biggest wackos in the tea party and interviewed them.
They are largely made up of wackos, so I figure it wont be too far from the truth.
I used to live in a rural area of the US that had a high proportion of "Tea Party" constituents and I can tell you that Wertherons description is not that far from the truth.
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That's not the tea party. It's just some wackos calling themselves tea party. But if you hate the tea party anyway, have a good time with it. 
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