EPTOn November 08 2012 01:23 jdseemoreglass wrote:
That's not the tea party. It's just some wackos calling themselves tea party.
That's not the tea party. It's just some wackos calling themselves tea party.
Like there's a difference, lol.
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
Like there's a difference, lol. | ||
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
On November 08 2012 01:35 gruff wrote: People talking about the tea party reminds me of discussions of when people talk about feminists. It doesn't matter if there's sane ones out there, people just go on hating on every one of them regardless. If the insane ones are in charge, while the sane ones are irrelevant, then the hate is justified. | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On November 07 2012 21:53 Poorlilrich wrote: fair enough, i just dont understand the jubilation. obama defending re-election does not really equate to an economic turnaround, when so far he hasnt done much to dissuade the notion that the debt will continue to grow (i.e. top down government stimulus). Funny how deficit is actually shrinking after 2009. Hmm, who started his presidency at that time ? What an interesting fact that contradicts what you are saying. And there is no need to think that Obama is a savior, just that he is lesser evil than Romney to be happy about the result. And unless Romney would completely back down from his promises he was worse on social issues and on economic issues. | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On November 08 2012 01:43 ampson wrote: You clearly know very little about Mitt Romney, conservatism, the United States, or the republican party. So, fuck you. All Germans are clearly asshats like you (I can generalize too!). His assessment was not extremely off. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
On November 08 2012 01:41 Probe1 wrote: The original tea party died about 3 months after it was born and a bigoted imposter replaced it. ![[image loading]](http://media.salon.com/2010/03/protestors_hold_signs_during_a_kill_the_bill_rally_against_president_barack_obamas_health_care_legislation-460x307.jpg) Lovely people really. Reaching across party lines to hate non-whites equally. Who the hell is that woman? I'm gona have to take this one. She uset to be in SNL, She supports bachmann (red flag right there) Shes from Minnesota and not very nice (red flag here as well) And she was Wildly drunk that election night. I mean she was CRAZY drunk you could see her on local news for some odd reason and she was ranting and raveing on how she had evidence that obama was a communist,was born in kenya (don't ask) and promoted socialist leaders to his government. She doesn't really have a career and she needs serious help but she really doesn't want any. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Unrelated- So this is why I didn't bother taking in the network predictions until it was overwhelmingly in Obamas favor. They're saying that the Florida polls closed at 8pm. I know for a fact that they didn't close until midnight in multiple counties. CNN is good for some things.. less so when they're relying on stuff they pulled from the internet instead of having someone there. | ||
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/11/donald_trump_election_sham_revolution_brian_williams.html | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
On November 08 2012 01:55 Probe1 wrote: Whoa. I almost want to know how she came to leave Saturday Night Live lol. Unrelated- So this is why I didn't bother taking in the network predictions until it was overwhelmingly in Obamas favor. They're saying that the Florida polls closed at 8pm. I know for a fact that they didn't close until midnight in multiple counties. CNN is good for some things.. less so when they're relying on stuff they pulled from the internet instead of having someone there. I'm guessing the difference is due to the "official" closing time being 8 but they fucked it up so bad they had to go over. On November 08 2012 01:38 Velr wrote: We are not very open and don't welcome people all that "warm" (if i would have to generalise really broad). So I can see where he is coming from  .I just figured you guys are super rich and live in one of the most beautiful places on earth so you have 0 fucks to give about visitors. | ||
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
Science expenditures by the federal gov't have been higher under republican leadership in the past 20 years, with the exception of Obama's stimulus, which blew up spending everywhere. Fact. Mitt Romney's stance is that evolution, not ID or creationism should be taught in class rooms. Fact. I fail to see how this is anti-intellectual. Only about half of the Republican Party is evangelical and guess what? Religion is not an indicator of anti-intellectualism. There aren't a ton of tinfoil hats and nobody is calling Obama Satan McBlacky. His assessment was very far off. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22703 Posts
On November 08 2012 01:55 Probe1 wrote: Whoa. I almost want to know how she came to leave Saturday Night Live lol. Unrelated- So this is why I didn't bother taking in the network predictions until it was overwhelmingly in Obamas favor. They're saying that the Florida polls closed at 8pm. I know for a fact that they didn't close until midnight in multiple counties. CNN is good for some things.. less so when they're relying on stuff they pulled from the internet instead of having someone there. The polls closed at 8pm. But anyone in line is still allowed to vote. it just happend to be that the lines were over 4 hours long. | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
Slightly off-topic banter: (only slightly) McAfee warned me about Townhall this morning when I tried visiting that it was a dangerous site. I've been visiting Townhall.com for years and never had this issue; it's only popped up today, immediately after the election. Coincidence? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 08 2012 01:57 ampson wrote: Science expenditures by the federal gov't have been higher under republican leadership in the past 20 years, with the exception of Obama's stimulus, which blew up spending everywhere. Fact. Mitt Romney's stance is that evolution, not ID or creationism should be taught in class rooms. Fact. I fail to see how this is anti-intellectual. Only about half of the Republican Party is evangelical and guess what? Religion is not an indicator of anti-intellectualism. There aren't a ton of tinfoil hats and nobody is calling Obama Satan McBlacky. His assessment was very far off. in the recent budget fights republicans have called for cuts to science. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_policy_of_the_United_States#Current_funding_debate http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/science/2011-03-02-scienceresearch02_CV_N.htm obama wants to continue a late bush initiative of doubling basic science research particularly renewables www.aaas.org/spp/rd/rdreport2012/12pch13.pdf the republican focus on science is most notable for weapon tech. the several large DoE national labs handle these projects. culturally they are for sending education to the states which means more cases of texas etc that has ridiculous antiscience theories in textbooks | ||
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BlueLanterna
291 Posts
On November 08 2012 01:57 ampson wrote: Science expenditures by the federal gov't have been higher under republican leadership in the past 20 years, with the exception of Obama's stimulus, which blew up spending everywhere. Fact. Mitt Romney's stance is that evolution, not ID or creationism should be taught in class rooms. Fact. I fail to see how this is anti-intellectual. Only about half of the Republican Party is evangelical and guess what? Religion is not an indicator of anti-intellectualism. There aren't a ton of tinfoil hats and nobody is calling Obama Satan McBlacky. His assessment was very far off. Anti-intellectual does not directly entail that he believes ID should be taught in the classroom, you have to extrapolate his view that "federal government does not belong in education", so passing off the responsibility to the state and local level WOULD be anti-intellectual, it would mean that all the assholes who want to push for their version of history, their version of american politics, etc. would be free to do so as they please without oversight from the federal government, just like they've done with our textbooks in TX. And actually, there are a lot of people calling Obama "Satan" and the anti-Christ and all sorts of other things, where have you been the past 4 years? And you're making a false correlation between evangelism and religion in this situation, evangelism and adhering to it undoubtedly gives you a more anti-intellectual stance on some issues because your rationale is not being informed by facts, only by your religious text and whatever interpretation you and whoever around you creates of it. Also I'd like to know where you got these "science" numbers from, they must be drastically different from something like the NASA budget, which has fallen in every administration except the Clinton years since Kennedy | ||
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
On November 08 2012 02:16 BlueLanterna wrote: Anti-intellectual does not directly entail that he believes ID should be taught in the classroom, you have to extrapolate his view that "federal government does not belong in education", so passing off the responsibility to the state and local level WOULD be anti-intellectual, it would mean that all the assholes who want to push for their version of history, their version of american politics, etc. would be free to do so as they please without oversight from the federal government, just like they've done with our textbooks in TX. And actually, there are a lot of people calling Obama "Satan" and the anti-Christ and all sorts of other things, where have you been the past 4 years? And you're making a false correlation between evangelism and religion in this situation, evangelism and adhering to it undoubtedly gives you a more anti-intellectual stance on some issues because your rationale is not being informed by facts, only by your religious text and whatever interpretation you and whoever around you creates of it. Also I'd like to know where you got these "science" numbers from, they must be drastically different from something like the NASA budget, which has fallen in every administration except the Clinton years since Kennedy I said in the past 20 years, as that is the most accurate representation of recent policies. ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/U.S._research_funding.png/800px-U.S._research_funding.png) There's the graph. The spike in spending is the stimulus, which blew up spending in every category. No mainstream republican has been calling obama satan in the past four years, you are looking at radicals with nothing to lose and assuming it's true of an entire party. They have said that he is ineffective and a bad leader, yes. Satan, no. Bush actually increased the NASA budget. And no, I will not equate evangelicalism with anti-intellectualism. Making decisions with morals based on religion is not stupid, it is what is seen by many as character. Obviously some might not agree, but the republican party is definitely not anti-intellectual. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Idiots. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On November 08 2012 02:26 Probe1 wrote: I think the funniest thing on news networks last night (outside of Fox News obviously) were the people saying Republicans need to get more of the Latino vote. Here's a great way to start: Stop the official policy of trying to deport them. Idiots. Then they royally piss off their Bible belt base. Quite a quandary for them, really. | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
On November 08 2012 02:26 Probe1 wrote: I think the funniest thing on news networks last night (outside of Fox News obviously) were the people saying Republicans need to get more of the Latino vote. Here's a great way to start: Stop the official policy of trying to deport them. Idiots. I agree, that's the opposite of what they should do if they want the Latino vote. But they're more afraid of what the negative consequences would be if they didn't lay down a strict law on illegal immigration. They're in a pretty rough pickle on that issue. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On November 08 2012 02:30 jpak wrote: Then they royally piss off their Bible belt base. Quite a quandary for them, really. I really think the healthiest thing would be for the Republicans to split. | ||
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Adila
United States874 Posts
On November 08 2012 02:31 koreasilver wrote: I really think the healthiest thing would be for the Republicans to split. If the Republicans got rid of their social wingnuts, I would've voted for Romney over Obama. | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
"Florida votes still being counted, race too close to call" ...didn't Mitt Romney already concede? | ||
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