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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here. The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301 | ||
shiroiusagi
SoCal, USA3955 Posts
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On November 06 2012 23:09 Greentellon wrote: I am not from USA. What are the best places to follow the election coverage once results start coming in, in your opinion? BBC has a live stream: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20009190 ABC also has a live stream: http://abcnews.go.com/live I think they usually start around 7pm EST. If anyone knows some other streams I'd like to know too. | ||
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Deleted User 124618
1142 Posts
On November 06 2012 23:12 paralleluniverse wrote: BBC has a live stream: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20009190 ABC also have a live stream: http://abcnews.go.com/live I think they usually start around 7pm EST. If anyone knows some other streams I'd like to know too. Thank you! This was exactly what I was looking for. 7pm EST. Hmm, thats .. err, 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Thanks TL.net time-tag! | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On November 06 2012 23:09 Greentellon wrote: I am not from USA. What are the best places to follow the election coverage once results start coming in, in your opinion? same question here + what time are news supposed to come in? ///Edit: Fail, got ninja'ed, thx/// | ||
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XoXiDe
United States620 Posts
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On November 06 2012 23:17 XoXiDe wrote: Just got done voting, was neat to see the Obama campaign with so many resources being put into use on campus. A number of vans to transport students, one was from Georgia, and also a big Obama/Biden charter bus, not to mention the volunteers outside of the polling place to help students waiting for the van. Didn't see anything comparable from the Romney campaign unless they were dropping off somewhere else but that is kind of unlikely. The Romney voters can afford their own cars /snicker~ I'll try to make it to voting after work today in NY. I heard it's 9PM closing here. | ||
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DoubleReed
United States4130 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On November 06 2012 23:20 Praetorial wrote: So, it'll be a few weeks before a winner is set in stone, right? Define "set in stone". We will basically know the projected winner today, but as a formality/extension of original times (significant time to travel and send ballots), but it's not official until December 17, when the electoral college formally selects the president/vice president. At least I'm pretty sure that's how it works. | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
On November 06 2012 23:17 XoXiDe wrote: Just got done voting, was neat to see the Obama campaign with so many resources being put into use on campus. A number of vans to transport students, one was from Georgia, and also a big Obama/Biden charter bus, not to mention the volunteers outside of the polling place to help students waiting for the van. Didn't see anything comparable from the Romney campaign unless they were dropping off somewhere else but that is kind of unlikely. The Romney buses are at the retirement homes (which probably have a different polling place). | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On November 06 2012 23:20 Praetorial wrote: So, it'll be a few weeks before a winner is set in stone, right? What? No, the winner will be known by the end of today (The next 18 hours), unless we run into something like bush/gore. | ||
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Orek
1665 Posts
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On November 06 2012 23:40 Orek wrote: Interesting that U.S. is voting on Tuesday, a day most people have to go work/school. Is Sunday not an option due to biblical reason? Voting on holiday sounds so much more convinient for many people. I did some googling, and it's not like having election on Tuesday has any modern reason. Yeah, not smart to be holding an election on Tuesday. In Australia, all elections are on Saturday. | ||
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DiLiGu
United States185 Posts
I just don't get it. We have flagrant bigots and uneducated zealots in elected positions, and everyone only talks about the President. I feel like it's one of the largest misdirections/pacifiers ever perpetrated on the American public. Edit: Tuesday voting is just a tradition. They tried to change it, for it to make more sense, but Republicans blocked the idea because it would free up too many working-class people to vote Democrat. I realize I need a source for this claim, I'll try to go find one. | ||
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0mar
United States567 Posts
On November 06 2012 20:15 Rannasha wrote: A system that involves more than 2 parties having a non-trivial participation would be far more effective than compulsory voting. With just 2 parties going up against eachother, it becomes a matter of the one trying to make the other look bad, ideally with one-liners and stuff pulled out of context. Once you have a larger number of candidates / parties, the focus will turn much more to parties bringing their own message. In addition, things will be more moderate and less pulled to the extremes, because with just 2 parties, each can just pick their extreme of the spectrum and sit there, with a large moderate crowd having to literally choose between the lesser of two evils. America's system is winner take all, so 3rd party candidates cannot be viable. There isn't proportional representation like in most parliamentary systems you have in Europe. There are no run-offs (except in a few states/counties), so even if someone gets 25% of the vote, if that's the highest vote tally, that person is elected. | ||
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Inquisitor1323
370 Posts
On November 06 2012 23:44 paralleluniverse wrote: Yeah, not smart to be holding an election on Tuesday. In Australia, all elections are on Saturday. It's an intricate communist plot to keep the working man from voting. | ||
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DoubleReed
United States4130 Posts
On November 06 2012 23:46 DiLiGu wrote: Just a query to all the gung-ho "you must go vote right now to exercise your power!" people: Do you realize we live in a representative democracy? The American general public has literally zero voice on who our President is. Why isn't everyone all up-in-arms about your House and Senate representatives, who are *way more important* to actually impacting policy than the President? I just don't get it. We have flagrant bigots and uneducated zealots in elected positions, and everyone only talks about the President. I feel like it's one of the largest misdirections/pacifiers ever perpetrated on the American public. Edit: Tuesday voting is just a tradition. They tried to change it, for it to make more sense, but Republicans blocked the idea because it would free up too many working-class people to vote Democrat. I realize I need a source for this claim, I'll try to go find one. If you live in the right district or state there's nothing you can do about those bigots. And the Tuesday thing is in the Constitution if I'm not mistaken. It has to be heavily bipartisan. | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On November 06 2012 18:24 paralleluniverse wrote: As for the fiscal cliff, is Signet the only person in this thread who thinks hitting the fiscal cliff is a good idea? Supposing that he is a Republican or at least Republican leaning, then at least he's not a hypocrite on this issue. Compare this to Romney or other Republicans who believe the fiscal cliff will wreck the economy, while at the same time believing that stimulus is bad and that deficits are bad. Such a belief is self-contradictory and completely hypocritical. I don't think hitting the cliff is a good idea. I think deficit hawks (which I'm not) should be saddened that neither party is willing to actually go through with it. | ||
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MstrJinbo
United States1251 Posts
On November 06 2012 23:48 Inquisitor1323 wrote: It's an intricate communist plot to keep the working man from voting. The reason, for anyone who is interested. http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/10/23/162484410/why-are-elections-on-tuesdays | ||
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HellRoxYa
Sweden1614 Posts
On November 06 2012 23:46 DiLiGu wrote: Just a query to all the gung-ho "you must go vote right now to exercise your power!" people: Do you realize we live in a representative democracy? The American general public has literally zero voice on who our President is. Why isn't everyone all up-in-arms about your House and Senate representatives, who are *way more important* to actually impacting policy than the President? I just don't get it. We have flagrant bigots and uneducated zealots in elected positions, and everyone only talks about the President. I feel like it's one of the largest misdirections/pacifiers ever perpetrated on the American public. Edit: Tuesday voting is just a tradition. They tried to change it, for it to make more sense, but Republicans blocked the idea because it would free up too many working-class people to vote Democrat. I realize I need a source for this claim, I'll try to go find one. All well and good for American voters. I'll tell you from an outside perspective, though, the executive is of way more importance. While the president wields very little actual power with regards to internal politics, unless he has the support of the senate and house, he holds almost all the power when it comes to foreign policy. But yes, there seems to have been a gradual shift to looking to the president to solve everything (going back a long time), while also holding him responsible for everything, without realizing that he only rarely has the power people seem to think he does. | ||
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