EPTWhy South Korea is one of the unhappiest countries - Page 8
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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ecstatica
United States542 Posts
On April 02 2012 23:36 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Well Finland's neck-and-neck with Korea in terms of education and they're the other extreme, students spend really little time in school and most of it is out of respect for the teaching profession, thus really good teachers = really good students. Can SK adapt to the Finnish system? How can you be so goddamn naive? You think students in Finland are at extreme lows for study hours while doing just as good as SK students? This even makes sense to you? Finland DOES NOT do well because of students not spending enough time studying thanks to super teachers that make you get it with twice as little effort. Finland has more leeway for students vs SK but that doesnt mean they they dont bust their asses studying. Theres no chance you learn if you dont put the work in. The success of finnish education has to do with parenting for the most part, not just teaching. Educated and motivated parents make a world of difference since early childhood. | ||
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Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
So now that i cover that, once again, i call this article bullshit and thus think its irrelevant to have a discussion around the points it makes. | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On April 02 2012 23:43 Crushinator wrote: Yeah because that was totally his argument. Well done. You can't follow logic can you? South Koreans won't stop working hard and studying hard just because more safety nets are out there. It's a cultural perception that isn't created or solved by safety nets. | ||
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ClanRH.TV
United States462 Posts
http://www.koreanhighschool.com/ | ||
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
Polt is currently on a break from his studies, so I don't think he is doing any university work at all. | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
 The only things about the article that I know anything about is the part where they said that Korea is a "world leader" in the automobile industry. Compared to countries that dont actually produce any cars, fine, but are Kias and Hyundais really world class compared to BMWs and Audis? I digress, good interesting article to read about a serious topic. Hope they figure out a solution | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
On April 03 2012 00:33 Tien wrote: You can't follow logic can you? South Koreans won't stop working hard and studying hard just because more safety nets are out there. It's a cultural perception that isn't created or solved by safety nets. You took an anecdote about sleeping in subways and turned it into a strawman. Nobody is claiming that a lack of welfare-benefits is the only important factor. I don't think you even understand what logic is. So you honestly belief that a lack of safety net has no effect on pressure to succeed at all? You can't see that the risk of having no money at all when you fail puts any additional stress on people? And you can't see that this additional stress can contribute to an increase in suicidal thoughts at all? Because that would be ridiculous. | ||
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
On April 03 2012 00:38 0neder wrote: I completely disagree that the welfare state breeds happiness. I think there are other underlying issues here. But I'm not gonna say what they are... but they aren't this... for sure. | ||
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liberal
1116 Posts
On April 03 2012 00:38 0neder wrote: I completely disagree that the welfare state breeds happiness. I think there are other underlying issues here. This was my first thought... I couldn't tell if this was supposed to be an actual news article or an editorial. But then I realized, this is the Guardian, what's the difference?  | ||
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
On April 03 2012 00:56 liberal wrote: This was my first thought... I couldn't tell if this was supposed to be an actual news article or an editorial. But then I realized, this is the Guardian, what's the difference? Why would not having money if you can't work make you even equally as happy as having some money? I would think being able to feed yourself or your family while unable to work would make someone happier than not being able to... | ||
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derpinator
74 Posts
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liberal
1116 Posts
On April 03 2012 01:00 derpinator wrote: The upside of the welfare state is, that if you lose your job you are still able to buy that washing machine, and thus keep the economy going by spending money. With neo-liberal policies you will lose your job and your house while living on the street and keep saying to yourself that you didnt work hard enough and you should have tried harder even when the odds are stacked heavily against you. In the meantime all profits will be privatized and all losses will be socialized. In holland the cost of people who recieve benefits and who dont really need it is about 122mil. Now compare those costs to the 20bil. the same country had to spend to bail out the banks. Than it becomes clear that neo-liberal ideoligies are extremely destructive to society and only benefits the few. So the original capitalistic liberalism which changed to classical liberalism is now called neoliberalism instead, and normal liberalism is market socialism? No wait, that can't be right, because you said neoliberalism socializes losses... I'm getting more and more confused by my own name... | ||
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DawN883
Sweden558 Posts
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Vorgrim
Korea (North)1601 Posts
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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
On April 03 2012 00:28 Azarkon wrote: For those looking for Asian culture reasons to the suicide rate - mind explaining why Lithuania has a higher suicide rate than South Korea? Once upon a time, the Soviet Union collapsed, leading into heavy economic depression, chaos, and societal problems in the former Soviet states. Lithuania, to say the least, has many, many issues. It comes as no surprise there would be a high suicide rate. There's of course many reasons for the high suicide rate in Korea. I'll add a minor possible reason, in that the kpop culture sorta influences guys to be pretty... effeminate. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing, but having thin skin like that for a guy can make you not as able to bear stressful things. | ||
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AxUU
Finland162 Posts
On April 03 2012 00:29 ecstatica wrote: How can you be so goddamn naive? You think students in Finland are at extreme lows for study hours while doing just as good as SK students? This even makes sense to you? Finland DOES NOT do well because of students not spending enough time studying thanks to super teachers that make you get it with twice as little effort. Finland has more leeway for students vs SK but that doesnt mean they they dont bust their asses studying. Theres no chance you learn if you dont put the work in. The success of finnish education has to do with parenting for the most part, not just teaching. Educated and motivated parents make a world of difference since early childhood. Finnish student here, I don't bust my ass off studying and never really bothered with homework until just recently and I'm pretty much your average finnish student in terms of grades. It's the parenting and teaching also, the teaching methods and testing methods make a big difference. | ||
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
On April 03 2012 01:09 liberal wrote: So the original capitalistic liberalism which changed to classical liberalism is now called neoliberalism instead, and normal liberalism is market socialism? No wait, that can't be right, because you said neoliberalism socializes losses... I'm getting more and more confused by my own name... Alright, we get it, liberal doesn't have the same definition anywhere... What about the post? | ||
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ecstatica
United States542 Posts
On April 03 2012 01:13 AxUU wrote: Finnish student here, I don't bust my ass off studying and never really bothered with homework until just recently and I'm pretty much your average finnish student in terms of grades. It's the parenting and teaching also, the teaching methods and testing methods make a big difference. Im sorry but you said it yourself - youre average. In order to not be average you need to study. I think its a simple concept. | ||
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