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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#341
after conducting a research trip to South Korea in 2010 I would have to argue that part of this stems from its divided history. North and South Korea are treated by the rest of the world as if they are polar opposites, one a beacon of "democracy" and the other a communist totalitarian holdout. The governments of both have made use of that division to support their own policies and have worked to stifle dissent and attempts at reunification. I think the Korean peninsula in general would improve in terms of mental outlook if only both governments would allow for an eventual reunification of the two Koreas.
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RavenLoud
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1100 Posts
April 09 2012 00:03 GMT
#342
On April 09 2012 08:39 scaban84 wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:30 BerserKr wrote:
I'm no South Korean expert, but I would personally be less than happy knowing that a neigbhour country may release chaos at any given time, maybe it's because I'm one of those guys that have a phobia related to nuclear war, but I wouldn't sleep comfortably knowing there are nukes pointing towards my country and everything I love, permanently, and knowing one day, because of stupid politics and interests I could possibly die.
Correct me if I'm wrong, maybe I was very miss-informed.

Exactly this. Maybe they are depressed because of the compulsory military service. Blaming economic liberty is just plain silly.

I'm pretty sure both factors are relevant.

It is far from "silly" to point out the economic factors, at least it's less silly than your assumption as someone who doesn't live there especially with several users from Korea confirming some aspects of it.

Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 00:21:59
April 09 2012 00:11 GMT
#343
On April 03 2012 00:44 Crushinator wrote:
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On April 03 2012 00:33 Tien wrote:
On April 02 2012 23:43 Crushinator wrote:
On April 02 2012 23:39 Tien wrote:
On April 02 2012 23:22 Velr wrote:
Ever been to a Korean subway?
People sleeping while standing (if they can't sit down) was a very common sight, from rather young guys (they were more often absorbed into some handheld Iphone/TV whatever) to older ones that looked like business man....

That tells more than thousand studies about a country and it's work mentality... No, it is or should not be normal that people just "shut down" as soon as they get a little break from work because they are to tired.

I don't think this correlates directly with capitalism, but it corelates with a failure in SKoreas developement which follows capitalist ideology.

Let's fix it:
Give the people some time to live whiteout immediatly risking poverty and they will be happier (and mroe productive/less ill... In general better off)... (Rocket Science!!)


Okay, let's increase people's safety welfare and you're guaranteeing people will stop sleeping while standing in the subway?

I have a irking suspicion it won't.


Yeah because that was totally his argument. Well done.


You can't follow logic can you?

South Koreans won't stop working hard and studying hard just because more safety nets are out there. It's a cultural perception that isn't created or solved by safety nets.


You took an anecdote about sleeping in subways and turned it into a strawman. Nobody is claiming that a lack of welfare-benefits is the only important factor. I don't think you even understand what logic is.

So you honestly belief that a lack of safety net has no effect on pressure to succeed at all? You can't see that the risk of having no money at all when you fail puts any additional stress on people? And you can't see that this additional stress can contribute to an increase in suicidal thoughts at all? Because that would be ridiculous.


An anecdote that people sleeping in subways is proof that people are working too hard because there isn't enough social nets? Laughable how Velr is trying to make that connection, also laughable how you are defending it.

Doesn't matter what I believe. The comparison is just stupid. How come countries with much fewer social nets have fewer suicide rates? I can name a few 3rd world countries with fewer suicide rates that have zero safety nets. Explain that one to me.

It's called using logic. If you assume one social theory to be correct, at least have the mental courtesy of testing that theory with other countries to see if that theory holds any weight. It doesn't.

Like another poster said, this article is left wing drivel trying to rile up an emotional response from the bleeding hearts (that don't like to think logically) so that western nations don't cut spending on social programs.
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Xann
Profile Joined March 2012
United States17 Posts
April 09 2012 00:51 GMT
#344
funny to see the right wing nutjobs crawl out of the woodworks
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 09 2012 04:05 GMT
#345
On April 07 2012 18:10 storkfan wrote:
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On April 07 2012 06:10 BlackJack wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:01 storkfan wrote:
The GDP is kinda wrong really. Yes per capita it isnt great,but if you look at Seoul, GDP per capita there is very big, similar to other highly developed nations. Only the rural areas dragging the overall GDP down


That's the same for every country

The difference is Seoul is the 2nd biggest metropolis in the world, so it has vastly more of a wealth gathering advantage on other areas compared to what other countries' cities have.

What does that have to do with anything? the GDP of New York City dwarfs an equivalent number of people who live on the farms of Iowa.
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