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This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.

If you make an uninformed post, or one that isn't relevant to the discussion, you will be moderated. If in doubt, don't post.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
July 16 2013 00:36 GMT
#9621
On July 16 2013 09:35 ImmunityLight wrote:
There are many versions of what happened, we don't know and we will never know. The important part is that there is not enough information/evidence that could charge Zimmerman for 2DM.

Or manslaughter. Or child abuse, for some reason.
FatChicksUnited
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada214 Posts
July 16 2013 00:38 GMT
#9622
This article has a short preview of an Anderson Cooper interview with one of the jurors:
http://www.businessinsider.com/george-zimmerman-juror-anderson-cooper-interview-2013-7

From the article:
"I was sure sure it was George Zimmerman's voice," the unnamed juror known as B37 told Cooper, explaining she felt that way because "of the evidence he was the one who had gotten beaten."

Apparently 5 of the 6 jurors agreed it was George.
Fat chicks need love too.
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
July 16 2013 00:39 GMT
#9623
On July 16 2013 09:28 ImmunityLight wrote:
I think there needs to be a review on gun and self defence laws. Certainly not a race issue.

Zimmerman never would have had the courage to encounter Travyon if he didn't have a gun.

Also quoting a friend "you can see someone acting suspiciously, go up to him and confront him verbally at night in the dark, and if he panicks and comes at you you legally have the right to shoot them dead". That's pretty messed up.

There was not enough evidence presented to convict Zimmerman for 2DM, period.




Based on what?

People who are too scared to make simple confrontations with other people, are not people who volunteer to become a watchman. Or have certain interest in cop Work.
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 16 2013 00:39 GMT
#9624
holy shit. a juror spoke.

wait, thats it.... where is the rest of the interview?
ImmunityLight
Profile Joined May 2013
6 Posts
July 16 2013 00:40 GMT
#9625
Just a personal assumption, Artemis.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
July 16 2013 00:40 GMT
#9626
That's one lengthy interview.
FatChicksUnited
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada214 Posts
July 16 2013 00:42 GMT
#9627
Well I did say that it was just a short preview of the interview. The journalist who wrote this article doesn't even cite a source, so we'll have to wait till the interview airs to see the full context of her statements.

B37 is the same juror planning to write the book, by the way.
Fat chicks need love too.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 16 2013 00:44 GMT
#9628
On July 16 2013 09:42 FatChicksUnited wrote:
Well I did say that it was just a short preview of the interview. The journalist who wrote this article doesn't even cite a source, so we'll have to wait till the interview airs to see the full context of her statements.

B37 is the same juror planning to write the book, by the way.

ugggggghhhhh
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
dotHead
Profile Joined October 2010
United States233 Posts
July 16 2013 00:44 GMT
#9629
I was going to read the interview, but I ain't got time for dat. I have to work tomorrow.
Aint got time to bleed
FatChicksUnited
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada214 Posts
July 16 2013 00:48 GMT
#9630
On July 16 2013 09:44 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 09:42 FatChicksUnited wrote:
Well I did say that it was just a short preview of the interview. The journalist who wrote this article doesn't even cite a source, so we'll have to wait till the interview airs to see the full context of her statements.

B37 is the same juror planning to write the book, by the way.

ugggggghhhhh

Within 5 years we're going to have at least 10 books on the subject. Post-secondary courses, too.

Picture Trayvon Kenobi in a hoodie, telling Zimmerman, "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."
Fat chicks need love too.
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
July 16 2013 00:49 GMT
#9631
On July 16 2013 09:42 FatChicksUnited wrote:
Well I did say that it was just a short preview of the interview. The journalist who wrote this article doesn't even cite a source, so we'll have to wait till the interview airs to see the full context of her statements.

B37 is the same juror planning to write the book, by the way.

Sounds like a good way to profit off of someone's expense.
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
July 16 2013 00:49 GMT
#9632
On July 16 2013 09:44 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 09:42 FatChicksUnited wrote:
Well I did say that it was just a short preview of the interview. The journalist who wrote this article doesn't even cite a source, so we'll have to wait till the interview airs to see the full context of her statements.

B37 is the same juror planning to write the book, by the way.

ugggggghhhhh

I knew they were too eager to get famous and rich to remain silent. Just people after all
This is our town, scrub
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 16 2013 00:52 GMT
#9633
The only thing to take from this trial is 1 important lesson:

If you're 65 yards from your home and you're concerned someone is following you, you go home.

There is no point about profiling. There is no point about race. (Zimmerman being "black" by most definitions, as well, though he would generally be regarded as Hispanic) There is no point about gun laws, as Zimmerman's gun wasn't even drawn. There is no point about Self-Defense laws, as we have unimpeached testimony of Martin on top of Zimmerman swinging at him.


From the information that we have confirmed, Martin waited for Zimmerman. Either openly or hidden. Considering the attendant physical evidence, it's safe to conclude that Martin escalated their interaction into a fight. And that got him dead. Thus, you keep walking home, if you're walking home. Which is why that's the only lesson you take from this case.
FatChicksUnited
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada214 Posts
July 16 2013 00:53 GMT
#9634
Silly me. Interview link and more detailed summary, here:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-anderson-cooper-interviews-anonymous-member-of-zimmerman-jury-who-defends-acquittal-decision/
Fat chicks need love too.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 16 2013 00:55 GMT
#9635
thanks. now i have to fix the op so i can start updating it again.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
July 16 2013 00:57 GMT
#9636
On July 16 2013 09:53 FatChicksUnited wrote:
Silly me. Interview link and more detailed summary, here:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-anderson-cooper-interviews-anonymous-member-of-zimmerman-jury-who-defends-acquittal-decision/

It obviously starts with the infamous knock-knock joke.
dotHead
Profile Joined October 2010
United States233 Posts
July 16 2013 01:08 GMT
#9637
I love how she said if George Zimmerman would have been spanish, black, or asian, he would have acted the same way.
Aint got time to bleed
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 16 2013 01:11 GMT
#9638
http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_stories/490926/jury-finds-roderick-scott-not-guilty/

I found this story interesting, of course, we never heard about it.

Older black man, shoots 17 yr old white kid, when it was actually the black man who made the confrontation, something we will never know about the Zimmerman case.

I guess we can loosely see what would have happened if the 'races' were reversed which the pundits seem to love hearing themselves say.

tl;dr he was acquitted on self defense.
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Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 16 2013 01:12 GMT
#9639
Basically this case showed that you should always do the safe thing when you encounter some bizarre situation. Yes, Zimmerman was clearly paranoid, probably racist, and weirdly suspicious, but Trayvon made the worst possible decision by trying to actually fight with him. If someone is following you, either he wants to follow you or it's a coincidence. In the latter case, nothing happens, whereas in the former case there's a small chance he might attack you. Why increase that chance to 100% by attacking him first? Just run away, or walk away, or just ask him what he wants and then leave if he makes you feel uncomfortable. If a fight does occur (regardless of who started it, since such things are pretty much impossible to tell after the fact) you have a chance of being killed, since guns are apparently pretty common, so try to avoid getting into one.
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
July 16 2013 01:12 GMT
#9640
So is it legal in Florida to kill someone who is attacking you? That's what I don't understand. I get that Travony attacked him (maybe not first but who cares) but how does that give Z the right to SHOOT him? That's what I'm not getting. How can you legally escalate the situation beyond what the (supposed) aggressor is doing? Was he REALLY in fear for his LIFE?
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