EPTOn July 16 2013 07:54 dAPhREAk wrote:
criminal record includes arrests that arent prosecuted. i have a criminal record, but i have never even been arrested (just fucking tickets that were unjustifiably given to me on the few days i wasnt speeding).
i dont think trayvon was ever arrested though. his school treated all arrestable offenses as suspensions so that the cops wouldnt get involved. it was like a diversion program to keep kids out of prison/juvenile hall and hopefully help them. it was a scandal, like most things though.
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On July 16 2013 07:50 Shiori wrote:
Huh? Was Martin ever convicted of a crime? If not, then is he not innocent of having committing a crime until proven guilty? I mean, I guess not being convicted doesn't mean you're not a criminal, but it certainly doesn't mean you are.
On July 16 2013 07:47 Millitron wrote:
This is so dishonest. Of course he hand no criminal record, he was a minor. Doesn't mean he wasn't a criminal.
On July 16 2013 07:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
Feds still probing Trayvon Martin shooting: Holder
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-george-zimmerman-20130715,0,3767690.story
Feds still probing Trayvon Martin shooting: Holder
U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder confirmed today that the Justice Department was continuing to investigate the February 2012 shooting death of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, following a state jury's acquittal of shooter George Zimmerman.
Holder said Martin's death was tragic and unnecessary, and that the department would act "consistent with the facts and the law," according to remarks he made at a convention of Delta Sigma Theta, a black sorority.
On Sunday, supporters and civil rights demonstrators turned out at rallies across the country to condemn racial profiling after the acquittal.
Zimmerman, cleared late on Saturday by a Florida jury of six women, still faces public outrage, a possible civil suit and demands for a federal investigation.
With civil rights activists clamoring for federal civil rights charges, the Justice Department is evaluating whether it has enough evidence to support prosecution of Zimmerman in federal court.
"It was such a shame. The whole case nearly destroyed George from day one ... . That they put a racism spin on this prosecution just hurt him very deeply," said John Donnelly, a close friend of Zimmerman who testified in the trial.
Critics contend Zimmerman, 29, who is white and Hispanic, wrongly suspected Martin, 17, of being a criminal because he was black. Zimmerman called police to report a suspicious looking person, then left his car with a fully loaded Kel Tec 9mm pistol concealed in his waistband.
A fight ensued in which Zimmerman suffered a bloody nose and head injuries, and Zimmerman shot Martin once in the heart.
The teenager had no criminal record and was staying in the neighborhood at the home of his father's fiancee. He had been walking back from a convenience store where he had bought candy and a soft drink.
Protests around the country
Saturday's not-guilty verdict was decried by civil rights leaders and protests were organized in several cities, including Los Angeles, Boston, San Francisco, San Diego, Sacramento and here in Chicago.
At least 150 people gathered outside the Daley Center in Chicago on Sunday to protest.
Thousands of protesters chanting "No justice, no peace" gathered in New York City on Sunday to protest the acquittal, which prompted rallies across the country.
"I feel if we don't step it up, we're in trouble," said Prince Akeem, 20, of the Bronx. "It's young blacks being targeted and we have to stand up, stand up to the cops."
About 1,000 to 2,000 of the demonstrators abandoned the protest site at Union Square to march in the streets toward Times Square, slowing or stopping traffic. Police attempted to funnel the crowd into controlled lanes but were unable to.
Police attempted to halt the march about eight blocks short of Times Square, which was already packed with tourists, but the demonstrators made their way around the officers.
In Los Angeles, more than 200 protesters in Leimert Park engaged police in a brief standoff. The protesters surrounded at least three patrol cars and repeatedly chanted "Trayvon Martin!
About a dozen other officers in riot gear stood by a block away. Some protesters chanted epithets at the officers, according to the Los Angeles Times.
After about 10 minutes, the demonstrators let the officers drive through the crowd. The police eventually left and the demonstration continued peacefully.
In Boston, about 500 racially mixed protesters left their demonstration site in the Roxbury neighborhood and started marching in the streets alongside police escorts on motorcycle and on foot. "They've been very orderly," Boston police superintendent William Evans said.
'Hurt, sad' in Sanford, Florida
Around Sanford, some residents expressed relief at the verdict, while others said they failed to see how Zimmerman could have been acquitted.
"You said he's not guilty, but why would you say he's not guilty?" 28-year-old Robyn Miller said. "It's crazy."
Obama, who once said, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," called for a peaceful response to a case that polarized the U.S. public from the beginning, raising issues of racial profiling and gun control.
"We are a nation of laws and a jury has spoken," the first black U.S. president said in a statement. "I now ask every American to respect the call for calm reflection from two parents who lost their young son."
The jurors who deliberated for 16 hours over two days found Zimmerman not guilty of second-degree murder and manslaughter. All six women, who were sequestered for the three weeks of testimony, declined to speak to reporters and their identities were still sealed by the court.
In Sanford at the largely black Allen Chapel A.M.E. Church, pastor Valarie Houston dedicated a Sunday morning prayer service to Martin.
"I am hurt. I am sad. I am disappointed and my heart is overwhelmed with pains," Houston said. "I thought in my heart that justice would be served."
After the verdict, the focus seemed to be shifting to rallies and events in the upcoming days, and an examination of both Florida law, and whether the U.S. Department of Justuce should conduct a civil-rights investigation, according to the Orlando Sentinel.
The Sanford Pastors Connection group has announced it will hold a public community prayer service Monday afternoon at New Life Word Church to encourage peace and unity, a city spokeswoman said. Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett, City Manager Norton Bonaparte and Police Chief Cecil Smith are scheduled to attend.
Another group has called for a statewide day of action in Florida for Trayvon. Dream Defenders said it would demonstrate outside the Capitol building and other locations Tuesday in response to the Zimmerman verdict and other civil-rights issues.
Case under review
Zimmerman, who showed little reaction when the decision was read, was unshackled from a monitoring device he had been wearing while on bail. He previously only left home in a disguise and body armor, his lawyer said.
His brother said he would remain out of public view for some time. Friends said the former neighborhood watch volunteer had recently spoken about the possibility of entering law school.
The tense drama that climaxed with the verdict had been building for more than a year, since police initially declined to arrest Zimmerman for shooting Martin, whose gray hooded sweatshirt has become a symbol of injustice for protesters.
The acquittal will weaken any wrongful death civil lawsuit that Martin's family might bring. Zimmerman's lead defense lawyer, Mark O'Mara, predicted Zimmerman would seek and win immunity from a civil suit.
A Justice Department spokesperson said in a statement on Sunday it would determine whether "the evidence reveals a prosecutable violation of any of the limited federal criminal civil rights statutes within our jurisdiction."
Holder said Martin's death was tragic and unnecessary, and that the department would act "consistent with the facts and the law," according to remarks he made at a convention of Delta Sigma Theta, a black sorority.
On Sunday, supporters and civil rights demonstrators turned out at rallies across the country to condemn racial profiling after the acquittal.
Zimmerman, cleared late on Saturday by a Florida jury of six women, still faces public outrage, a possible civil suit and demands for a federal investigation.
With civil rights activists clamoring for federal civil rights charges, the Justice Department is evaluating whether it has enough evidence to support prosecution of Zimmerman in federal court.
"It was such a shame. The whole case nearly destroyed George from day one ... . That they put a racism spin on this prosecution just hurt him very deeply," said John Donnelly, a close friend of Zimmerman who testified in the trial.
Critics contend Zimmerman, 29, who is white and Hispanic, wrongly suspected Martin, 17, of being a criminal because he was black. Zimmerman called police to report a suspicious looking person, then left his car with a fully loaded Kel Tec 9mm pistol concealed in his waistband.
A fight ensued in which Zimmerman suffered a bloody nose and head injuries, and Zimmerman shot Martin once in the heart.
The teenager had no criminal record and was staying in the neighborhood at the home of his father's fiancee. He had been walking back from a convenience store where he had bought candy and a soft drink.
Protests around the country
Saturday's not-guilty verdict was decried by civil rights leaders and protests were organized in several cities, including Los Angeles, Boston, San Francisco, San Diego, Sacramento and here in Chicago.
At least 150 people gathered outside the Daley Center in Chicago on Sunday to protest.
Thousands of protesters chanting "No justice, no peace" gathered in New York City on Sunday to protest the acquittal, which prompted rallies across the country.
"I feel if we don't step it up, we're in trouble," said Prince Akeem, 20, of the Bronx. "It's young blacks being targeted and we have to stand up, stand up to the cops."
About 1,000 to 2,000 of the demonstrators abandoned the protest site at Union Square to march in the streets toward Times Square, slowing or stopping traffic. Police attempted to funnel the crowd into controlled lanes but were unable to.
Police attempted to halt the march about eight blocks short of Times Square, which was already packed with tourists, but the demonstrators made their way around the officers.
In Los Angeles, more than 200 protesters in Leimert Park engaged police in a brief standoff. The protesters surrounded at least three patrol cars and repeatedly chanted "Trayvon Martin!
About a dozen other officers in riot gear stood by a block away. Some protesters chanted epithets at the officers, according to the Los Angeles Times.
After about 10 minutes, the demonstrators let the officers drive through the crowd. The police eventually left and the demonstration continued peacefully.
In Boston, about 500 racially mixed protesters left their demonstration site in the Roxbury neighborhood and started marching in the streets alongside police escorts on motorcycle and on foot. "They've been very orderly," Boston police superintendent William Evans said.
'Hurt, sad' in Sanford, Florida
Around Sanford, some residents expressed relief at the verdict, while others said they failed to see how Zimmerman could have been acquitted.
"You said he's not guilty, but why would you say he's not guilty?" 28-year-old Robyn Miller said. "It's crazy."
Obama, who once said, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," called for a peaceful response to a case that polarized the U.S. public from the beginning, raising issues of racial profiling and gun control.
"We are a nation of laws and a jury has spoken," the first black U.S. president said in a statement. "I now ask every American to respect the call for calm reflection from two parents who lost their young son."
The jurors who deliberated for 16 hours over two days found Zimmerman not guilty of second-degree murder and manslaughter. All six women, who were sequestered for the three weeks of testimony, declined to speak to reporters and their identities were still sealed by the court.
In Sanford at the largely black Allen Chapel A.M.E. Church, pastor Valarie Houston dedicated a Sunday morning prayer service to Martin.
"I am hurt. I am sad. I am disappointed and my heart is overwhelmed with pains," Houston said. "I thought in my heart that justice would be served."
After the verdict, the focus seemed to be shifting to rallies and events in the upcoming days, and an examination of both Florida law, and whether the U.S. Department of Justuce should conduct a civil-rights investigation, according to the Orlando Sentinel.
The Sanford Pastors Connection group has announced it will hold a public community prayer service Monday afternoon at New Life Word Church to encourage peace and unity, a city spokeswoman said. Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett, City Manager Norton Bonaparte and Police Chief Cecil Smith are scheduled to attend.
Another group has called for a statewide day of action in Florida for Trayvon. Dream Defenders said it would demonstrate outside the Capitol building and other locations Tuesday in response to the Zimmerman verdict and other civil-rights issues.
Case under review
Zimmerman, who showed little reaction when the decision was read, was unshackled from a monitoring device he had been wearing while on bail. He previously only left home in a disguise and body armor, his lawyer said.
His brother said he would remain out of public view for some time. Friends said the former neighborhood watch volunteer had recently spoken about the possibility of entering law school.
The tense drama that climaxed with the verdict had been building for more than a year, since police initially declined to arrest Zimmerman for shooting Martin, whose gray hooded sweatshirt has become a symbol of injustice for protesters.
The acquittal will weaken any wrongful death civil lawsuit that Martin's family might bring. Zimmerman's lead defense lawyer, Mark O'Mara, predicted Zimmerman would seek and win immunity from a civil suit.
A Justice Department spokesperson said in a statement on Sunday it would determine whether "the evidence reveals a prosecutable violation of any of the limited federal criminal civil rights statutes within our jurisdiction."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-george-zimmerman-20130715,0,3767690.story
This is so dishonest. Of course he hand no criminal record, he was a minor. Doesn't mean he wasn't a criminal.
Huh? Was Martin ever convicted of a crime? If not, then is he not innocent of having committing a crime until proven guilty? I mean, I guess not being convicted doesn't mean you're not a criminal, but it certainly doesn't mean you are.
criminal record includes arrests that arent prosecuted. i have a criminal record, but i have never even been arrested (just fucking tickets that were unjustifiably given to me on the few days i wasnt speeding).
i dont think trayvon was ever arrested though. his school treated all arrestable offenses as suspensions so that the cops wouldnt get involved. it was like a diversion program to keep kids out of prison/juvenile hall and hopefully help them. it was a scandal, like most things though.
I'm only aware of his suspensions for graffiti, truancy, and punching a bus driver. Of these, only the last one seems worth involving the police about, and that'd depend on the details of what happened + what the bus driver wanted and stuff.
Idk the details though...
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