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HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
March 26 2012 17:42 GMT
#81
On March 27 2012 02:26 Gingerninja wrote:
I grew up with ginger hair, a minority group, and don't think because it's only hair think that stops kids abusing you. Ask any kid with ginger hair.. I mean after all we have no souls right? we deserve it. You can be charged for racism for abusing skin colour, but not hair colour, so that gives kids free reign to bully others, but you know..
I can't actually think at any time I've been offended by someone calling me things to do with my hair colour after about age 5.
I often told people if they were going to insult me, at least make it funny. Calling me a "ginger dickhead" "ginger wanker" or whatever, just show's a lack of imagination, and neither is funny or offensive.
You learn to roll with the punches, my best friend at school was fat. We used to spend hours just verbally abusing each other for something to do.

People need to grow up, and either learn to respond in kind, or suck it up. I bet I have received more verbal abuse on a daily basis because of such a stupid thing as my hair colour, than most of the people who complain about being offended ever have in their lives. That's what offends me, I learnt to live with the torrent of abuse, and embrace it, even as a child. If any adults ever bitch about being offended in front of me.. they can go straight to hell for all I care.

and people can say it's all a jest about hair colour.. My own mother (who is also ginger) got told by one of her friends..
"no offense, but I hope I don't have ginger children, If I did I'd probably throw them in a canal."
Now that is some venomous shit without any kind of basis.


So anyway, taking verbal abuse is unhealthy for the psyche.
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 07:15:09
March 26 2012 17:43 GMT
#82
For the same reason religion should always be separate from governmental affairs, free speech should be upheld at all times.
Because one day, you might find yourself and your religion/opinion in the minority, and I bet you would not like it if you didn't have the means to oppose the majority just because you didn't want the minority to oppose you while you were in the majority.

That doesn't mean people can say what they want. A threat ("I'm gonna kill your ass, motherfucker") is unacceptable.
It also doesn't mean people can say what they want and go about their merry way. If you're a comedian and say something the management of the place you're doing your show at doesn't like, they have every right to kick you out. But that's it.
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
March 26 2012 17:46 GMT
#83
On March 27 2012 02:42 AwayFromLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:40 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:38 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:34 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:31 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:25 Faggatron wrote:
Context:

He's talking about having to tiptoe around religious people because they might be "offended" by criticisms of it.

Well, even in that regard, there's a line to be drawn. There's a difference between talking calmly and kindly about differences in religion, and screaming at one another because you don't believe in the same thing.

I'm a believer, and I would never insult anyone of a different religion, and I don't make fun of my atheist friends. I don't get upset when a non-believer asks me why I believe in God, but I do get my jimmies rustled when someone immediately identifies me as a bible-thumping idiot and claims superiority over me for my beliefs.


Yes but here is the problem you support an organization (the church) that is responsible for millions of deaths.

So you support an organization that has used mass genocide, mass murder, rape, enslavement and torture. You sound like you support the Nazi's.

That's why I find "offence" in you even being part of that organization.

Let alone the fact that you are belittling the logic of all of humanity by thinking that there is a mystical man in the sky.

I also choose to live in America, so does that mean I support the genocide of Native Americans, the use of minorities as slave labor, and using nuclear weapons on civilians? Because Americans have done all that in the past.

Extremism statements are silly. I don't condone everything the organizations I'm part of have done in the past (I live in Illinois, but I think selling Senate seats is wrong. How craAazy), and if you think every single person of faith does, you're an idiot.


Yes but the government provides something?

Your mystical man in the sky doesn't provide anything other than a false hope and a jobs for virgins.

Honestly? I'd rather have "false" hope than $5 a gallon for gas.

But the point is that you are throwing all of human knowledge out the window because "fuck proof". You are an idiot or insane. Fucking bonkers. You can be called such.

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MaddogStarCraft
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada64 Posts
March 26 2012 17:47 GMT
#84
On March 27 2012 02:42 AwayFromLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:40 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:38 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:34 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:31 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:25 Faggatron wrote:
Context:

He's talking about having to tiptoe around religious people because they might be "offended" by criticisms of it.

Well, even in that regard, there's a line to be drawn. There's a difference between talking calmly and kindly about differences in religion, and screaming at one another because you don't believe in the same thing.

I'm a believer, and I would never insult anyone of a different religion, and I don't make fun of my atheist friends. I don't get upset when a non-believer asks me why I believe in God, but I do get my jimmies rustled when someone immediately identifies me as a bible-thumping idiot and claims superiority over me for my beliefs.


Yes but here is the problem you support an organization (the church) that is responsible for millions of deaths.

So you support an organization that has used mass genocide, mass murder, rape, enslavement and torture. You sound like you support the Nazi's.

That's why I find "offence" in you even being part of that organization.

Let alone the fact that you are belittling the logic of all of humanity by thinking that there is a mystical man in the sky.

I also choose to live in America, so does that mean I support the genocide of Native Americans, the use of minorities as slave labor, and using nuclear weapons on civilians? Because Americans have done all that in the past.

Extremism statements are silly. I don't condone everything the organizations I'm part of have done in the past (I live in Illinois, but I think selling Senate seats is wrong. How craAazy), and if you think every single person of faith does, you're an idiot.


Yes but the government provides something?

Your mystical man in the sky doesn't provide anything other than a false hope and a jobs for virgins.

Honestly? I'd rather have "false" hope than $5 a gallon for gas.


Mystical man in the sky < Police, Fire Departments, Army, Libraries, Education etc...

And using nuclear weapons on civilians was justified, look at the math behind Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 17:48:18
March 26 2012 17:47 GMT
#85
On March 27 2012 02:43 Dagobert wrote:
For the same reason religion should always be separate from governmental affairs, free speech should be upheld at all times.
Because one day, you might find yourself and your religion/opinion in the minority, and I bet you would not like it if you didn't have the means to oppose the majority just because you didn't want the minority to oppose you while you were in the majority.

That doesn't mean people can say what they want. A threat ("I'm gonna kill your ass, motherfucker") is unacceptable.

Yep. It would be strange, wouldn't it. What if Christians became a minority, and they got put them in jail when they told other people "you're going to burn in hell for eternity".

I mean, that's kind of a rude thing to say, but it's accepted I guess. You get to threaten children with hellfire but you don't get to make jokes about skin color.

On March 27 2012 02:47 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:42 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:40 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:38 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:34 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:31 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:25 Faggatron wrote:
Context:

He's talking about having to tiptoe around religious people because they might be "offended" by criticisms of it.

Well, even in that regard, there's a line to be drawn. There's a difference between talking calmly and kindly about differences in religion, and screaming at one another because you don't believe in the same thing.

I'm a believer, and I would never insult anyone of a different religion, and I don't make fun of my atheist friends. I don't get upset when a non-believer asks me why I believe in God, but I do get my jimmies rustled when someone immediately identifies me as a bible-thumping idiot and claims superiority over me for my beliefs.


Yes but here is the problem you support an organization (the church) that is responsible for millions of deaths.

So you support an organization that has used mass genocide, mass murder, rape, enslavement and torture. You sound like you support the Nazi's.

That's why I find "offence" in you even being part of that organization.

Let alone the fact that you are belittling the logic of all of humanity by thinking that there is a mystical man in the sky.

I also choose to live in America, so does that mean I support the genocide of Native Americans, the use of minorities as slave labor, and using nuclear weapons on civilians? Because Americans have done all that in the past.

Extremism statements are silly. I don't condone everything the organizations I'm part of have done in the past (I live in Illinois, but I think selling Senate seats is wrong. How craAazy), and if you think every single person of faith does, you're an idiot.


Yes but the government provides something?

Your mystical man in the sky doesn't provide anything other than a false hope and a jobs for virgins.

Honestly? I'd rather have "false" hope than $5 a gallon for gas.


Mystical man in the sky < Police, Fire Departments, Army, Libraries, Education etc...

And using nuclear weapons on civilians was justified, look at the math behind Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Oh give me a break, maths behind a moral debate, be serious.
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DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
March 26 2012 17:47 GMT
#86
I'm sorry, but why is being offended bad? Seems to me it's more about specific instances where people shouldn't be offended, not against the entire idea.

No, I don't like it when rush limbaugh calls a woman a slut for discussing serious health issues. I don't like it when gays are compared to bestiality. I don't like it when people institutionalize or trivialize rape, murder, and slavery. That offends me as a human being.

Human dignity is a real thing that people try to destroy in the real world. "Being offended" seems to me like it just means you are standing up for human dignity. There's nothing bad about that.
xenobarf
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden47 Posts
March 26 2012 17:48 GMT
#87
On March 27 2012 02:39 Cascade wrote:
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On March 27 2012 02:32 xenobarf wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:27 Cascade wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:17 xenobarf wrote:
Thoughts are as follows, either we have free speech or we do not, there is no middle area. Personally I'm for free speech.

Happy birthday, but really? No middle area?

(Everything allowed to say) ------------------------- (???????????????) ---------------------------------- (nothing allowed to say)

Any ideas of what could go in a middle area?
(Hint, think of how it is in Sweden.)


The problem is that if we go into it trying to define a middle area, the who does this? All human beings are infallible and or biased in some form or another.

And yes, I agree that going around throwing racial slurs or doing salutes to Hitler is not a nice thing.

Yeah, it's crazy hard to decide what things are ok to say, and which are simply not ok. And different people have different opinions as you say. There is no single right answer, and it is certainly different in different places and at different times.

The ones to decide and enforce it should be the same people that decide and enforce what you are allowed to DO, rather than SAY. Which will be some kind democratically elected (well, in several steps, representative w/e don't know the terms) group of people and some kind of police force.


Because letting the government (or some form of government) decide what you can and cannot say is going to work out just fine. It's okay to have utopian ideas, but we still live in reality where, like I said, people are infallible and biased.

MaddogStarCraft
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada64 Posts
March 26 2012 17:48 GMT
#88
On March 27 2012 02:47 DoubleReed wrote:
I'm sorry, but why is being offended bad? Seems to me it's more about specific instances where people shouldn't be offended, not against the entire idea.

No, I don't like it when rush limbaugh calls a woman a slut for discussing serious health issues. I don't like it when gays are compared to bestiality. I don't like it when people institutionalize or trivialize rape, murder, and slavery. That offends me as a human being.

Human dignity is a real thing that people try to destroy in the real world. "Being offended" seems to me like it just means you are standing up for human dignity. There's nothing bad about that.


Yes but why do you give Rush Limbaugh's words any value? For that matter why give any value to the words of any republican or religious person.
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
March 26 2012 17:48 GMT
#89
The starcraft community is patheticly easy to "offend". they get butthurt over anything, and they have proven their net nanny status in that one they smell blood, they will comb through all your replays, all your chat logs and any other information you make public in order to set you aflame. Witch Hunt central.

I agree with Stephen Fry, personally. Right to free speech, and all that. There are a lot of people who would silence you just because they don't agree with you, on any subject, let alone being offensive because you're mad or making racy jokes.
MaddogStarCraft
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada64 Posts
March 26 2012 17:50 GMT
#90
On March 27 2012 02:47 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:43 Dagobert wrote:
For the same reason religion should always be separate from governmental affairs, free speech should be upheld at all times.
Because one day, you might find yourself and your religion/opinion in the minority, and I bet you would not like it if you didn't have the means to oppose the majority just because you didn't want the minority to oppose you while you were in the majority.

That doesn't mean people can say what they want. A threat ("I'm gonna kill your ass, motherfucker") is unacceptable.

Yep. It would be strange, wouldn't it. What if Christians became a minority, and they got put them in jail when they told other people "you're going to burn in hell for eternity".

I mean, that's kind of a rude thing to say, but it's accepted I guess. You get to threaten children with hellfire but you don't get to make jokes about skin color.

Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:47 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:42 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:40 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:38 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:34 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:31 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:25 Faggatron wrote:
Context:

He's talking about having to tiptoe around religious people because they might be "offended" by criticisms of it.

Well, even in that regard, there's a line to be drawn. There's a difference between talking calmly and kindly about differences in religion, and screaming at one another because you don't believe in the same thing.

I'm a believer, and I would never insult anyone of a different religion, and I don't make fun of my atheist friends. I don't get upset when a non-believer asks me why I believe in God, but I do get my jimmies rustled when someone immediately identifies me as a bible-thumping idiot and claims superiority over me for my beliefs.


Yes but here is the problem you support an organization (the church) that is responsible for millions of deaths.

So you support an organization that has used mass genocide, mass murder, rape, enslavement and torture. You sound like you support the Nazi's.

That's why I find "offence" in you even being part of that organization.

Let alone the fact that you are belittling the logic of all of humanity by thinking that there is a mystical man in the sky.

I also choose to live in America, so does that mean I support the genocide of Native Americans, the use of minorities as slave labor, and using nuclear weapons on civilians? Because Americans have done all that in the past.

Extremism statements are silly. I don't condone everything the organizations I'm part of have done in the past (I live in Illinois, but I think selling Senate seats is wrong. How craAazy), and if you think every single person of faith does, you're an idiot.


Yes but the government provides something?

Your mystical man in the sky doesn't provide anything other than a false hope and a jobs for virgins.

Honestly? I'd rather have "false" hope than $5 a gallon for gas.


Mystical man in the sky < Police, Fire Departments, Army, Libraries, Education etc...

And using nuclear weapons on civilians was justified, look at the math behind Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Oh give me a break, maths behind a moral debate, be serious.


Again you disregard facts (math).

As a human I am biologically attuned to try and maximize pleasure and minimize pain. This can be shown by math. Therefore the human species and the choices we make can be justified or unjustified by math.

Stop screaming "FUCK FACTS". You're coming off stupid.
Chessz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States644 Posts
March 26 2012 17:51 GMT
#91
On March 27 2012 02:39 PanN wrote:
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On March 27 2012 02:36 Chessz wrote:
I'm tired of hearing from privileged white males being tired of other people being offended. I don't give a fuck whether anyone is offended. What I care about is harm.

This fantastic blog post echoes my view and argues very elegantly for taking care of the cultural narratives we cultivate:

http://finenessandaccuracy.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/i-dont-care-if-youre-offended/


Maybe you'd prefer hearing it from privileged black people? How about privileged brown people? Maybe even privileged purple people? Ooh! How about green!?



Seriously did you read the post, jokes about privileged groups don't actually offend as much because it doesn't align with our implicit biases and power structures the way disparaging comments about marginalized groups do, which strengthens bias and institutionalization, so yes, it absolutely matters that the staunchest defenders of this viewpoint are white.
Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
March 26 2012 17:52 GMT
#92
On March 27 2012 02:42 HellRoxYa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:26 Gingerninja wrote:
I grew up with ginger hair, a minority group, and don't think because it's only hair think that stops kids abusing you. Ask any kid with ginger hair.. I mean after all we have no souls right? we deserve it. You can be charged for racism for abusing skin colour, but not hair colour, so that gives kids free reign to bully others, but you know..
I can't actually think at any time I've been offended by someone calling me things to do with my hair colour after about age 5.
I often told people if they were going to insult me, at least make it funny. Calling me a "ginger dickhead" "ginger wanker" or whatever, just show's a lack of imagination, and neither is funny or offensive.
You learn to roll with the punches, my best friend at school was fat. We used to spend hours just verbally abusing each other for something to do.

People need to grow up, and either learn to respond in kind, or suck it up. I bet I have received more verbal abuse on a daily basis because of such a stupid thing as my hair colour, than most of the people who complain about being offended ever have in their lives. That's what offends me, I learnt to live with the torrent of abuse, and embrace it, even as a child. If any adults ever bitch about being offended in front of me.. they can go straight to hell for all I care.

and people can say it's all a jest about hair colour.. My own mother (who is also ginger) got told by one of her friends..
"no offense, but I hope I don't have ginger children, If I did I'd probably throw them in a canal."
Now that is some venomous shit without any kind of basis.


So anyway, taking verbal abuse is unhealthy for the psyche.


Not at all, I'm pretty well adjusted, I just don't get offended by people making fun of others. If there's is humour there, laugh. If there is not humour, then why not? People take life too seriously. If someone is being offensive in a hateful manner, then there is a problem with that individual that needs fixed, banning the words themselves does nothing for the feelings that causes it, and or the social problems that created the hatred in the first place.
If someone is offended by a joke that was not meant to be hateful, then they really need to check themselves and grow up.
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h41fgod
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden377 Posts
March 26 2012 17:52 GMT
#93
On March 27 2012 02:10 AwayFromLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:07 Djzapz wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:05 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:01 Djzapz wrote:
Was just going to post that one from Steve Hughes. Offended people should just grow up, at least a lot of the time.

But again, like I said, it depends. Should that audience have just "grown up" when Michael Richards (the Kramer guy) stood on stage and just said the N-word repeatedly? No, I think they were well within their rights to get pissed at him.

What's your rationale for that? Just because? The audience shouldn't give a fuck, it doesn't hurt them unless they let it.

Have you seen the video for it?



It wasn't that he used the word in a joke, he was actually genuinely being racist for the sake of being racist, putting another person down because of the color of their skin. And everyone should have just stayed silent and condoned it?

No, that's fucked up, imo.

Now that, that's fucked up. But really, the guy he is insulting isnt doing very well either. Countering racism with racism is not the way to go.
However, it is everyones right to be offended as well. But the correct response is to shrug and avoid. Or try in a court of law (as in this case).
So I will admit. I was offended by that (prior hate towards his work might influence). But thats fine. I'll just be disgusted by him as a person too.
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
March 26 2012 17:52 GMT
#94
On March 27 2012 02:48 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:47 DoubleReed wrote:
I'm sorry, but why is being offended bad? Seems to me it's more about specific instances where people shouldn't be offended, not against the entire idea.

No, I don't like it when rush limbaugh calls a woman a slut for discussing serious health issues. I don't like it when gays are compared to bestiality. I don't like it when people institutionalize or trivialize rape, murder, and slavery. That offends me as a human being.

Human dignity is a real thing that people try to destroy in the real world. "Being offended" seems to me like it just means you are standing up for human dignity. There's nothing bad about that.


Yes but why do you give Rush Limbaugh's words any value? For that matter why give any value to the words of any republican or religious person.


Because some of those people write policy that affect people's lives, that's why.

Anyway, are you supposed to only be offended by valuable speech? Who says that?
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
March 26 2012 17:53 GMT
#95
On March 27 2012 02:50 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:47 Djzapz wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:43 Dagobert wrote:
For the same reason religion should always be separate from governmental affairs, free speech should be upheld at all times.
Because one day, you might find yourself and your religion/opinion in the minority, and I bet you would not like it if you didn't have the means to oppose the majority just because you didn't want the minority to oppose you while you were in the majority.

That doesn't mean people can say what they want. A threat ("I'm gonna kill your ass, motherfucker") is unacceptable.

Yep. It would be strange, wouldn't it. What if Christians became a minority, and they got put them in jail when they told other people "you're going to burn in hell for eternity".

I mean, that's kind of a rude thing to say, but it's accepted I guess. You get to threaten children with hellfire but you don't get to make jokes about skin color.

On March 27 2012 02:47 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:42 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:40 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:38 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:34 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:31 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:25 Faggatron wrote:
Context:

He's talking about having to tiptoe around religious people because they might be "offended" by criticisms of it.

Well, even in that regard, there's a line to be drawn. There's a difference between talking calmly and kindly about differences in religion, and screaming at one another because you don't believe in the same thing.

I'm a believer, and I would never insult anyone of a different religion, and I don't make fun of my atheist friends. I don't get upset when a non-believer asks me why I believe in God, but I do get my jimmies rustled when someone immediately identifies me as a bible-thumping idiot and claims superiority over me for my beliefs.


Yes but here is the problem you support an organization (the church) that is responsible for millions of deaths.

So you support an organization that has used mass genocide, mass murder, rape, enslavement and torture. You sound like you support the Nazi's.

That's why I find "offence" in you even being part of that organization.

Let alone the fact that you are belittling the logic of all of humanity by thinking that there is a mystical man in the sky.

I also choose to live in America, so does that mean I support the genocide of Native Americans, the use of minorities as slave labor, and using nuclear weapons on civilians? Because Americans have done all that in the past.

Extremism statements are silly. I don't condone everything the organizations I'm part of have done in the past (I live in Illinois, but I think selling Senate seats is wrong. How craAazy), and if you think every single person of faith does, you're an idiot.


Yes but the government provides something?

Your mystical man in the sky doesn't provide anything other than a false hope and a jobs for virgins.

Honestly? I'd rather have "false" hope than $5 a gallon for gas.


Mystical man in the sky < Police, Fire Departments, Army, Libraries, Education etc...

And using nuclear weapons on civilians was justified, look at the math behind Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Oh give me a break, maths behind a moral debate, be serious.


Again you disregard facts (math).

As a human I am biologically attuned to try and maximize pleasure and minimize pain. This can be shown by math. Therefore the human species and the choices we make can be justified or unjustified by math.

Stop screaming "FUCK FACTS". You're coming off stupid.

Frankly if you think you can justify nuking Japan twice with mathematics, most people here will agree that you're coming off as stupid. Even if it was justified (and I'm not saying it was), using mathematics like that is just speculative and not very useful. It's not far off from numerology really.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 26 2012 17:53 GMT
#96
Stephen Fry, the man is a legend! Much respect to him.

But yeah it is rather silly to get offended by words/insults, i dont i just go with the flow. The only thing that angers me is my nerd rage :3 damn games.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
March 26 2012 17:55 GMT
#97
On March 27 2012 02:50 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:47 Djzapz wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:43 Dagobert wrote:
For the same reason religion should always be separate from governmental affairs, free speech should be upheld at all times.
Because one day, you might find yourself and your religion/opinion in the minority, and I bet you would not like it if you didn't have the means to oppose the majority just because you didn't want the minority to oppose you while you were in the majority.

That doesn't mean people can say what they want. A threat ("I'm gonna kill your ass, motherfucker") is unacceptable.

Yep. It would be strange, wouldn't it. What if Christians became a minority, and they got put them in jail when they told other people "you're going to burn in hell for eternity".

I mean, that's kind of a rude thing to say, but it's accepted I guess. You get to threaten children with hellfire but you don't get to make jokes about skin color.

On March 27 2012 02:47 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:42 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:40 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:38 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:34 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:31 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:25 Faggatron wrote:
Context:

He's talking about having to tiptoe around religious people because they might be "offended" by criticisms of it.

Well, even in that regard, there's a line to be drawn. There's a difference between talking calmly and kindly about differences in religion, and screaming at one another because you don't believe in the same thing.

I'm a believer, and I would never insult anyone of a different religion, and I don't make fun of my atheist friends. I don't get upset when a non-believer asks me why I believe in God, but I do get my jimmies rustled when someone immediately identifies me as a bible-thumping idiot and claims superiority over me for my beliefs.


Yes but here is the problem you support an organization (the church) that is responsible for millions of deaths.

So you support an organization that has used mass genocide, mass murder, rape, enslavement and torture. You sound like you support the Nazi's.

That's why I find "offence" in you even being part of that organization.

Let alone the fact that you are belittling the logic of all of humanity by thinking that there is a mystical man in the sky.

I also choose to live in America, so does that mean I support the genocide of Native Americans, the use of minorities as slave labor, and using nuclear weapons on civilians? Because Americans have done all that in the past.

Extremism statements are silly. I don't condone everything the organizations I'm part of have done in the past (I live in Illinois, but I think selling Senate seats is wrong. How craAazy), and if you think every single person of faith does, you're an idiot.


Yes but the government provides something?

Your mystical man in the sky doesn't provide anything other than a false hope and a jobs for virgins.

Honestly? I'd rather have "false" hope than $5 a gallon for gas.


Mystical man in the sky < Police, Fire Departments, Army, Libraries, Education etc...

And using nuclear weapons on civilians was justified, look at the math behind Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Oh give me a break, maths behind a moral debate, be serious.


Again you disregard facts (math).

As a human I am biologically attuned to try and maximize pleasure and minimize pain. This can be shown by math. Therefore the human species and the choices we make can be justified or unjustified by math.

Stop screaming "FUCK FACTS". You're coming off stupid.


Nuking any populated area is mass murder of civilians. There is no justification possible.
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MaddogStarCraft
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada64 Posts
March 26 2012 17:55 GMT
#98
On March 27 2012 02:53 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:50 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:47 Djzapz wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:43 Dagobert wrote:
For the same reason religion should always be separate from governmental affairs, free speech should be upheld at all times.
Because one day, you might find yourself and your religion/opinion in the minority, and I bet you would not like it if you didn't have the means to oppose the majority just because you didn't want the minority to oppose you while you were in the majority.

That doesn't mean people can say what they want. A threat ("I'm gonna kill your ass, motherfucker") is unacceptable.

Yep. It would be strange, wouldn't it. What if Christians became a minority, and they got put them in jail when they told other people "you're going to burn in hell for eternity".

I mean, that's kind of a rude thing to say, but it's accepted I guess. You get to threaten children with hellfire but you don't get to make jokes about skin color.

On March 27 2012 02:47 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:42 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:40 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:38 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:34 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:31 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:25 Faggatron wrote:
Context:

He's talking about having to tiptoe around religious people because they might be "offended" by criticisms of it.

Well, even in that regard, there's a line to be drawn. There's a difference between talking calmly and kindly about differences in religion, and screaming at one another because you don't believe in the same thing.

I'm a believer, and I would never insult anyone of a different religion, and I don't make fun of my atheist friends. I don't get upset when a non-believer asks me why I believe in God, but I do get my jimmies rustled when someone immediately identifies me as a bible-thumping idiot and claims superiority over me for my beliefs.


Yes but here is the problem you support an organization (the church) that is responsible for millions of deaths.

So you support an organization that has used mass genocide, mass murder, rape, enslavement and torture. You sound like you support the Nazi's.

That's why I find "offence" in you even being part of that organization.

Let alone the fact that you are belittling the logic of all of humanity by thinking that there is a mystical man in the sky.

I also choose to live in America, so does that mean I support the genocide of Native Americans, the use of minorities as slave labor, and using nuclear weapons on civilians? Because Americans have done all that in the past.

Extremism statements are silly. I don't condone everything the organizations I'm part of have done in the past (I live in Illinois, but I think selling Senate seats is wrong. How craAazy), and if you think every single person of faith does, you're an idiot.


Yes but the government provides something?

Your mystical man in the sky doesn't provide anything other than a false hope and a jobs for virgins.

Honestly? I'd rather have "false" hope than $5 a gallon for gas.


Mystical man in the sky < Police, Fire Departments, Army, Libraries, Education etc...

And using nuclear weapons on civilians was justified, look at the math behind Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Oh give me a break, maths behind a moral debate, be serious.


Again you disregard facts (math).

As a human I am biologically attuned to try and maximize pleasure and minimize pain. This can be shown by math. Therefore the human species and the choices we make can be justified or unjustified by math.

Stop screaming "FUCK FACTS". You're coming off stupid.

Frankly if you think you can justify nuking Japan twice with mathematics, most people here will agree that you're coming off as stupid. Even if it was justified (and I'm not saying it was), using mathematics like that is just speculative and not very useful. It's not far off from numerology really.


What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

I literally fail to comprehend this logic (really a lack thereof).
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
March 26 2012 17:56 GMT
#99
On March 27 2012 02:50 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:47 Djzapz wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:43 Dagobert wrote:
For the same reason religion should always be separate from governmental affairs, free speech should be upheld at all times.
Because one day, you might find yourself and your religion/opinion in the minority, and I bet you would not like it if you didn't have the means to oppose the majority just because you didn't want the minority to oppose you while you were in the majority.

That doesn't mean people can say what they want. A threat ("I'm gonna kill your ass, motherfucker") is unacceptable.

Yep. It would be strange, wouldn't it. What if Christians became a minority, and they got put them in jail when they told other people "you're going to burn in hell for eternity".

I mean, that's kind of a rude thing to say, but it's accepted I guess. You get to threaten children with hellfire but you don't get to make jokes about skin color.

On March 27 2012 02:47 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:42 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:40 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:38 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:34 MaddogStarCraft wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:31 AwayFromLife wrote:
On March 27 2012 02:25 Faggatron wrote:
Context:

He's talking about having to tiptoe around religious people because they might be "offended" by criticisms of it.

Well, even in that regard, there's a line to be drawn. There's a difference between talking calmly and kindly about differences in religion, and screaming at one another because you don't believe in the same thing.

I'm a believer, and I would never insult anyone of a different religion, and I don't make fun of my atheist friends. I don't get upset when a non-believer asks me why I believe in God, but I do get my jimmies rustled when someone immediately identifies me as a bible-thumping idiot and claims superiority over me for my beliefs.


Yes but here is the problem you support an organization (the church) that is responsible for millions of deaths.

So you support an organization that has used mass genocide, mass murder, rape, enslavement and torture. You sound like you support the Nazi's.

That's why I find "offence" in you even being part of that organization.

Let alone the fact that you are belittling the logic of all of humanity by thinking that there is a mystical man in the sky.

I also choose to live in America, so does that mean I support the genocide of Native Americans, the use of minorities as slave labor, and using nuclear weapons on civilians? Because Americans have done all that in the past.

Extremism statements are silly. I don't condone everything the organizations I'm part of have done in the past (I live in Illinois, but I think selling Senate seats is wrong. How craAazy), and if you think every single person of faith does, you're an idiot.


Yes but the government provides something?

Your mystical man in the sky doesn't provide anything other than a false hope and a jobs for virgins.

Honestly? I'd rather have "false" hope than $5 a gallon for gas.


Mystical man in the sky < Police, Fire Departments, Army, Libraries, Education etc...

And using nuclear weapons on civilians was justified, look at the math behind Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Oh give me a break, maths behind a moral debate, be serious.


Again you disregard facts (math).

As a human I am biologically attuned to try and maximize pleasure and minimize pain. This can be shown by math. Therefore the human species and the choices we make can be justified or unjustified by math.

Stop screaming "FUCK FACTS". You're coming off stupid.


Trying to derail the thread into a religious debate + insulting fellow debaters by telling them they come off as stupid.

Perfect way to debate your point, bloke!
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Carras
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina860 Posts
March 26 2012 17:56 GMT
#100
dont know if its related to the topic..but today i went to a big supermarket with my school bagpack, and the security lady asked me to put it in a special bag they have.. i told her no , becouse all women are allowed to take their bags/purses and even a lot of men carry bags or sth with them... i decided to leave... but i saw there was a second place where i could enter while i was leaving..the security guy there said nothing..

im 21,male,dont look like i migth be trying to shoplift xD
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