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1sz2sz3sz
Profile Joined January 2012
Andorra173 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 22:03:33
March 14 2012 22:02 GMT
#1061
On March 15 2012 07:01 Dark_Chill wrote:
Can someone please tell me how LoL is less skillful than Dota2. All I've seen so far is "denying makes the game so HARDCORE", while no one seems to care to look at everything LoL has that Dota2 does not. Couple that with the fact that denying is not exactly all that hard to do, and what are you left with? Dota2 fans, come forth now and tell me, without using any insults, what makes Dota2 such a hardcore game while LoL is casual, easy game.

You dont lose gold on death in LoL

So that means in Dota2 you have to rice for an hour straight before anything happens (see that dota2 tournament, first game was over 90 minutes long)
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
March 14 2012 22:04 GMT
#1062
I just uninstalled the game because i can't stand how shitty the community in that game is.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 14 2012 22:05 GMT
#1063
On March 15 2012 07:04 TigerKarl wrote:
I just uninstalled the game because i can't stand how shitty the community in that game is.

You better not try HoN in that case.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
March 14 2012 22:05 GMT
#1064
On March 15 2012 07:05 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 07:04 TigerKarl wrote:
I just uninstalled the game because i can't stand how shitty the community in that game is.

You better not try HoN in that case.

Or DotA. XD

DotA-genres have communities like that.
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
Rafael
Profile Joined January 2011
Venezuela182 Posts
March 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#1065
Why all the LOL bashing is a fun game with a successful formula, I really like it and I also play Starcraft 2. Those are my flagship games I'm really happy LOL is getting the appretiation it deserves.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
March 14 2012 22:07 GMT
#1066
The skillcap is high enough to allow competitive play. I do not find Dota2 to be "more difficult" than LoL.

Anyway, if skillcap were the end all be all of esports, I'd still be watching BW.
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ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
March 14 2012 22:07 GMT
#1067
Well I'm happy that a game requiring such skill, decision making, multi-tasking, speed, raw mechanics, mental strength and no keyboard will be the 'competitive esport' to show to the mainstream.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2108 Posts
March 14 2012 22:09 GMT
#1068
On March 15 2012 07:01 Dark_Chill wrote:
Can someone please tell me how LoL is less skillful than Dota2. All I've seen so far is "denying makes the game so HARDCORE", while no one seems to care to look at everything LoL has that Dota2 does not. Couple that with the fact that denying is not exactly all that hard to do, and what are you left with? Dota2 fans, come forth now and tell me, without using any insults, what makes Dota2 such a hardcore game while LoL is casual, easy game.

Why don't you go try the game and see what it's like compared to LoL and tell us your opinion after?
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
Knallhexe
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany92 Posts
March 14 2012 22:10 GMT
#1069
I have to agree both sides.

Firstly, DotA2 isn't that HARDCORE HARDER than some want it to be. They partly have just a different focus of complexity.

Then again, LoL is easier for newcomers. The shadows, the gold loss, the denying, the more 'hidden' items and HP&mana bars make a little bit more difficult.
Then again², once you reached a certain niveau and got used to the gameplay, DotA isn't really that much harder.
ThorZaIN ♥
Blennd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States266 Posts
March 14 2012 22:12 GMT
#1070
On March 15 2012 07:09 Copymizer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 07:01 Dark_Chill wrote:
Can someone please tell me how LoL is less skillful than Dota2. All I've seen so far is "denying makes the game so HARDCORE", while no one seems to care to look at everything LoL has that Dota2 does not. Couple that with the fact that denying is not exactly all that hard to do, and what are you left with? Dota2 fans, come forth now and tell me, without using any insults, what makes Dota2 such a hardcore game while LoL is casual, easy game.

Why don't you go try the game and see what it's like compared to LoL and tell us your opinion after?


Why don't you just answer his question?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 14 2012 22:12 GMT
#1071
On March 15 2012 07:10 Knallhexe wrote:
I have to agree both sides.

Firstly, DotA2 isn't that HARDCORE HARDER than some want it to be. They partly have just a different focus of complexity.

Then again, LoL is easier for newcomers. The shadows, the gold loss, the denying, the more 'hidden' items and HP&mana bars make a little bit more difficult.
Then again², once you reached a certain niveau and got used to the gameplay, DotA isn't really that much harder.

Indeed. LoL is much easier to get into than Dota. But at the highest level, it is pretty much the same.

I have also heard that from players that played both LoL and Dota at the highest level.
Off-season = best season
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
March 14 2012 22:13 GMT
#1072
know what can shift this around?

Starcraft 2: Broodwar F2P

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how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
March 14 2012 22:15 GMT
#1073
On March 15 2012 07:07 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Well I'm happy that a game requiring such skill, decision making, multi-tasking, speed, raw mechanics, mental strength and no keyboard will be the 'competitive esport' to show to the mainstream.


No keyboard? Are you under the impression that people click on their skills?
Vigor
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada77 Posts
March 14 2012 22:17 GMT
#1074
Was LoL at MLG PPV when they earned 11.3mill? serious question
Payo
Profile Joined June 2011
Slovenia15 Posts
March 14 2012 22:19 GMT
#1075
Basically, every nub can play LoL and win gamez when for Sc2 yu need some actuall skill&knowledge if yu want to be atleast decent. The end.
Sc2 1v1 ladder :D
1sz2sz3sz
Profile Joined January 2012
Andorra173 Posts
March 14 2012 22:19 GMT
#1076
On March 15 2012 07:17 Vigor wrote:
Was LoL at MLG PPV when they earned 11.3mill? serious question

LoL at at the MLG where they got 241k concurrent across all platforms.
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 22:29:58
March 14 2012 22:20 GMT
#1077
On March 15 2012 07:01 Dark_Chill wrote:
Can someone please tell me how LoL is less skillful than Dota2. All I've seen so far is "denying makes the game so HARDCORE", while no one seems to care to look at everything LoL has that Dota2 does not. Couple that with the fact that denying is not exactly all that hard to do, and what are you left with? Dota2 fans, come forth now and tell me, without using any insults, what makes Dota2 such a hardcore game while LoL is casual, easy game.

Easy. I have played both games a lot and can give you some comparisons.

In League of Legends we have heroes who don't need mana at all. I feel that this is stupid as shit since it makes the game very hard to balance around items. This leads to making spells the core aspect of a hero (or Champion) which DotA does not have. In DotA, items is so important and not only to get AD/AP or HP. Active items such as blink dagger, force staff, ghost scepter, sheepstick etc. makes it so much more diverse. A normal hero can have up to 10 spells which all will be very useful. In LoL I rarely see spells being used other than the 4 main spells and the two summoner spells.

Juking. In LoL we juke by walking into a bush and then out again. Seriously?
In DotA 2 we have trees EVERYWHERE and high ground vision, night/day + cliffs. Juking becomes a very important part of the game. Just check any "highlight video" for DotA and you'll see juking and one single hero killing 5 others by using utility items and not Lee Sin spamming Q and E to kill everyone. You don't have that in LoL.

Death. Dying is such a big thing in DotA. You lose so much gold that you can lose up to 10 minutes of farm. In League of Legends you keep all the gold, much more forgiving.

Courier and secret shops. To only be able to buy items in base is the cause to the gold and death issue. But with courier and secret shops you can buy items while on lane and save yourself with clutch moves. Ex. run into secret shop with 5 hp buy a blink dagger + tp and blink away into the trees right when SK comes in with a stun and tp away.

These are only a few things in DotA that differs from LoL which makes DotA such a more diverse game. Another example is that almost every hero can carry in LoL by buying 6 Rabadons. LoL...
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
Blennd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States266 Posts
March 14 2012 22:21 GMT
#1078
On March 15 2012 07:17 Vigor wrote:
Was LoL at MLG PPV when they earned 11.3mill? serious question


MLG didn't earn 11.3 million with Winter Arena. They sold 11.3 million worth of equity in their company after winter arena happened. Who knows how related the two events were.
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-14 22:22:43
March 14 2012 22:21 GMT
#1079
On March 15 2012 07:01 Dark_Chill wrote:
Can someone please tell me how LoL is less skillful than Dota2. All I've seen so far is "denying makes the game so HARDCORE", while no one seems to care to look at everything LoL has that Dota2 does not. Couple that with the fact that denying is not exactly all that hard to do, and what are you left with? Dota2 fans, come forth now and tell me, without using any insults, what makes Dota2 such a hardcore game while LoL is casual, easy game.



You are punished much harder in DotA 2 for early game mistakes than you are in League of Legends. This lets you build up an advantage/lead that prevents bad shit like one bad teamfight from turning the game around. Alot of players rage in League because no matter how hard you're stomping in the early game of League, the other team will always pick up some farm, and at some point if you have one bad teamfight you get rolled horribly despite all of your hardwork in the early/mid game. A team grabbing a baron buff is a huge deal, it lets them get complete map control and free towers during the duration of the buff.
Knallhexe
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany92 Posts
March 14 2012 22:22 GMT
#1080
That's not true. I was Gold in beta and when they released Masters I got into Diamond. I never played Starcraft before, all I did was learning three BO's and poorly execute them with my 70 APM. That's how easy SC2 is.
ThorZaIN ♥
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