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On September 09 2015 08:14 andyrau wrote: idk clothes are just a reflection of things I like and enjoy looking at. it just so happens they're also embodiments of passing zeitgeists and that ranges from nonconsequential to unfortunate depending on your opinion of those facets of society.
bUrself
On September 09 2015 08:33 zulu_nation8 wrote: it's good to know where each style is coming from, other than that you can mix and match w/e you want. I kop things that look cool and are reasonably priced.
Makes sense. Just gotta find mYself first I guess.
Any tips on where to look? Currently just haunt fmf for random because mfa stuff tends to be out of my budget, but I have no idea as to which brands/stores would be good to check for stuff.
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A lot of his stuff fit slim and are best on ectomorphs like most high fashion, but even so he's probably the most muscle friendly designer. There are pictures of him doing pullups and using the curl bar, not sure if he's touched a barbell.
On September 09 2015 13:30 Aerisky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2015 08:14 andyrau wrote: idk clothes are just a reflection of things I like and enjoy looking at. it just so happens they're also embodiments of passing zeitgeists and that ranges from nonconsequential to unfortunate depending on your opinion of those facets of society.
bUrself Show nested quote +On September 09 2015 08:33 zulu_nation8 wrote: it's good to know where each style is coming from, other than that you can mix and match w/e you want. I kop things that look cool and are reasonably priced. Makes sense. Just gotta find mYself first I guess. Any tips on where to look? Currently just haunt fmf for random because mfa stuff tends to be out of my budget, but I have no idea as to which brands/stores would be good to check for stuff.
MFA is generally the most cheaply dressed forum. You should figure out whether you wanna overhaul your wardrobe or make clothes a hobby, or if you mainly just wanna look better. Working out does more for your appearance than any clothing. If you wanna build a casual wardrobe, figure out your body type first, if you're long and thin then you can wear anything, if anything else your options will be limited. To my knowledge there are basically only 4-5 very general aesthetic umbrellas almost all popular streetwear fall under, and that are not overly expensive: Supreme, Euro minimalist (Acne, Our Legacy, Norse Projects, COS), American and Japanese workwear (Denim, button-downs, goodyear welted boots.), tech (stone island, nike collabs, everything on havenshop.ca), Japanese streetwear that's like part workwear part other stuff, (undercover, bape, nonnative), and I guess knock-off goth/street dark stuff, which is zara and everything on oaknyc.com. Some of those styles cost more than others, but if you wanna own more clothing than necessary then a bit of spending power is obv required for conspicuous consumption, otherwise there are plenty of people, men in particular, who don't give a shit about clothes and look perfectly fine, and either way you'll probably be better off saving money for more important stuff.
Oh and there's also prep, like Brooks Brothers, J.Crew, etc, but don't dress like that even if all of your friends do unless you go to a prep boarding school and the dress code requires it.
Some general and practical rules are, everything in suburban malls is garbage, don't buy stuff because it's cheap, never buy things on impulse, don't buy used stuff that you're not sure on if you can't resell easily, keep your standards high and keep a small wardrobe.
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What is with Michele Lamy? Is she like 200 years old?
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I think the most important thing to remember is that in the process of learning about styles/your body type/taste and whatnot there will be times that you are gonna end up looking hella stupid or wasting money. We've all done it but in the end it's just a learning process.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
You could be a combo of things too, you don't have to subscribe to just one "subgenre" (like the ones zulu mentioned). I probably lean towards Euro minimalist but I also love Japanese stuff and patterns and florals. Like everyone has said a big part of dressing better is being able to dress to your personality and expressing yourself.
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I'll add a few things to Zulu's post about buying:
The most important thing in my opinion about clothing is how they fit (you can buy clothing from walmart that will look better if it fits, than from a runaway designer than does not)
Don't buy cheap Leather Don't buy cheap wool Always make sure suits/formal wear is the right size. Always Never ever buy cheap shoes
As Zulu mentioned, most local malls are fairly bad
Macy's is quite bad (outside of some deals on Levi's) J.C. Penney's is kind of okay, although they are going out of business these days American Eagle is pretty bad Forever 21 is terrible quality Aeropostale is terrible Sears is bad outside of Land's End PacSun is generally bad Marshall's sells low end clothing (on occasion they have decent things if you look carefully) Tj Maxx is the same situation as Marshall's H & M is fairly decent, although the quality is obviously not great
Regarding MFA, I think they tend to reccomend stores like Uniqlo, which are about as good as it gets in terms of value. I would reccomend them as many have before.
In terms of purchasing here are a few reccomendations: You don't have to buy expensive shoes, just don't buy cheap ones You don't have to buy an expensive suit, just one that fits and is decent quality Jeans you can pay about 40-50 bucks for and get the best value. Brands like Levi's, etc are the best value here. I do personally like some more expensive japanese selvage, although for most its overkill Same with Chinos, buy them for 40-50 bucks from brands like Dockers, J.Crew and you get the best value Shirts, can be bought cheaper depending on preference. I like to buy more casual shirts at stores like H & M for daily use Boxers/Undershirts socks can all be bought cheap in my opinion.
Jackets and Shoes are where you want to spend a bit more primarily. Also formal wear should not be bought cheap
Regarding specifics of shopping, I prefer to buy things from stores like Uniqlo/Asos/Zara/J.Crew/BR on sales and deals. You can get great deals on jeans/shirts from a place like Uniqlo and then drop more on shoes/jackets from designer labels.
Typically High-end Department stores are the ones worth going to for high-fashion/expensive stuff. Lord & Taylor, Neiman Marcus, Nordstrom, etc.
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I looked at what I wore on a daily basis before I upgraded to more expensive stuff. For example I jumped the gun on denim only to realize I hate wearing pants. So I waited a bit to make sure and then bought tech fleece sweat pants + soccer pants
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@zulu, alucen: whoa, thanks a lot! That makes a lot of sense and I'll try to go about it that way. Currently I think I want to make clothing a hobby, don't quite want to overhaul everything just yet, and do want to look better (already work out) but I'm definitely pretty interested in clothing/fashion as well. I'm actually relatively close to the Livermore (now rebranded to San Francisco[?]) outlet malls which might actually be decent, not your typical suburban mall I think. A lot of the stuff they have is sorta bad tho ya. Anyway I really appreciate it, and I'll keep it in mind. Thanks guys! :D
@zerochrome/zulu: ya I already fucked up getting a bunch of jcrew button-downs, in general they seem way too fucking preppy esp since I'm in norcal. It's also way too fucking hot right now to wear anything but a t-shirt and shorts.
@juliette: ya I picked up 2 uniqlo jeans for $10 apiece, don't mind wearing pants/chinos but I think I kind of hate jeans. Always did hate jeans, don't know why I went for em. Also found out that uniqlo jeans are way too tight in the crotch for me despite fitting at the waist :| Going forward I'll give it more time. As zulu said, impulse buys aren't good yea.
How did you guys learn about fashion and whatnot btw? Did you have people to talk to as well? Periodicals maybe?
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your choice of fabrics/cut is the most likely reason why you feel its too hot to wear a button down
blogs is where I get most of my inspiration since no one around me cares about what they put on (i work in tech)
I feel as if I spent way too much getting preppy stuff at jcrew because now i wanna go more towards tech-wear and european style (just came from my first trip in europe xD). I suppose it's allright since I have my basics covered and can branch off now.
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Jeans fucking suck. It's like wearing a strait jacket on your legs.
What does tech-wear mean?
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2% elastane makes it more interesting
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On September 10 2015 05:23 CorsairHero wrote: your choice of fabrics/cut is the most likely reason why you feel its too hot to wear a button down
Ye it's just cotton weaves/thin linen shit... 90+ degrees F, fuck this shit.
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I like that cardigan but if you paid anything over 150 for that... Christ what a stupid deal.
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On September 11 2015 00:53 zulu_nation8 wrote: Ur stupid
rekt, rip sjm
@bly post pics when you get it. I'm potentially interested in getting one but I'm not sure how the outer panel/inner panel weird scarf-like effect thing plays out IRL. Also I'm not super sold on the color at Suspension Point, are there any other colors other than the gray one on Notre?
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Only those two I think. The usual two Schneider colors are grey and night, some greys are plain and some have hints of blue/navy in them like the SP X8.
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On September 11 2015 05:01 zulu_nation8 wrote: Only those two I think. The usual two Schneider colors are grey and night, some greys are plain and some have hints of blue/navy in them like the SP X8.
Are they always that expensive? I like the thickness but i'm not up for $500 on a cardigan.
Still I can't find anything like that for a decent price. All of it is Shawl/Drapey right now
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