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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 05:11:07
August 09 2014 00:47 GMT
#4881
I met someone wearing nice jeans, looked like a pair of barely worn waxed skinny cut something, no branding, fabric looked nice, saw selvedge cuff, was convinced they were legit, asked him what they were, he goes "they're from the internet," I go oh where? He then links me to a site that sells $20 "premium raw denim," I looked it up later and all the cuts actually seemed pretty nice from the pictures, but I lost all faith in my ability to identify denim.

Also got a pair of somet low rises.

edit: brand is 20jeans.com, now that I look at it again, I should've been able to tell from the threading I guess.
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 03:22:54
August 09 2014 03:22 GMT
#4882
Being high while fashion researching is quite the fun mix... long time no see Men's Fashion Thread. You're the reason why I look sexier.
"So I turned the lights off at night and practiced by myself"
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
August 09 2014 03:40 GMT
#4883
On August 09 2014 08:51 phosej wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2014 07:17 Juliette wrote:
oh i see. still, more freedom financially and by virtue of being young to buy cool stuff like ccp compared to those people.

I feel like this is a common misconception. Correct me if I'm wrong, but older (40+) people have always been the true clientele for designer fashion. There's a reason slp makes jeans up to 36/38 waist. Middle aged people have more freedom financially and societally (which is earned) to wear that kind of stuff. I'm thinking the head of a design/architectural firm who has suiting from kiton/brioni along with ccp, and john lobbs next to his guidis. Young people are the marketable face of fashion, but they usually lack purchasing power and feel the need to conform in order to fit in or advance in life (one notable exception would be japanese youth culture). I think in some ways, the internet has sort of warped our perception of this fact through selective bias to the point where we think every 18 year old has geobaskets, but the somewhat unpalatable truth is that rick's real customers are 40 year old married women

the real customers are probably 22-35 year olds undergoing quarterlife crisis lol
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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 04:43:26
August 09 2014 04:42 GMT
#4884
On August 09 2014 09:47 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I met someone wearing nice jeans, looked like a pair of barely worn waxed skinny cut something, no branding, fabric looked nice, saw selvedge cuff, was convinced they were legit, asked him what they were, he goes "they're from the internet," I go oh where? He then links me to a site selling $20 "premium raw denim," I looked it up and all the cuts actually seemed pretty nice from the pictures, but I lost all faith in my ability to identify denim.

Also got a pair of somet low rises.

edit: brand is 20jeans.com, now that I look at it again, I should've been able to tell from the threading I guess.

Those jeans are hilarious. They're not even selvedge, haha. You get what you pay for I guess though.
Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 05:50:05
August 09 2014 05:35 GMT
#4885
On August 09 2014 08:51 phosej wrote:
I think in some ways, the internet has sort of warped our perception of this fact through selective bias to the point where we think every 18 year old has geobaskets, but the somewhat unpalatable truth is that rick's real customers are 40 year old married women


This is a very, very accurate view of which a lot of new posters have gathered and perceive.

To be frank, (forgive me for saying this over and over) we can say that the vast majority of people who stunt on the internet are one of a kind, even in major metropolitan cities. I think within a two year time period, I've seen about 4 people who wear Rick Owens in walking around in Toronto, and I'm the only one wearing geobaskets. Granted, I wear them on average of maybe once or twice a week, but for those of us that treat fashion as an expensive hobby we are often conditioned to groupthink in such the way stated above. I think the only other people living in the same city as me who are "young and have the freedom to buy whatever" would be Shui Tsang and troublewithmyself (her tumblr is long gone though..? some drama happened lmao).

As stated before, the young and impressionable are often easily swayed to "look good" for their peers, but are lacking in purchasing power. Theoretically, it's the same reason in which mid tier brands (think mall luxury..? I'm thinking along the tiers of Zara) are successful, their target customers are literally everybody in the market - from the teenagers to the middle aged woman, and imitate actual luxury clothing while providing what the general public deems to be an "affordable" price point.

EDIT: I'VE ALSO BEEN THINKING OF TAKING UP SKATEBOARDING RECENTLY. I WOULD BE COMPLETELY NEW AND I AM ALSO 22 YEARS OLD. AM I TOO OLD TO BE A GOON ON A BOARD NOW?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 06:46:13
August 09 2014 06:22 GMT
#4886
I think there's just too much clothes and too many subcultures within fashion. Immediately identifiable pieces like rickadidases are rare even among internet people. I've definitely seen more than a few assimilated "looks" within the past couple of months, from workshirt + cuffed jeans + workboots to henley + skinny jeans + desert boots, but unless I see their wardrobe or at least more than one outfit from them, there's no way to know if they casually browse MFA or are bout dat life. Some things like leather jackets are also impossible to identify unless you've done research. There are a lot of brands the internet doesn't pay attention to but rips stuff off of other designers, etc.

It's just really hard to tell in general, some people can also have a good eye but know jackshit about brands. Some asian girls are naturally good dressers with just stuff they pull out of nordstrom's and H&M, it's in their genes. I've probably walked past someone wearing some vintage grail OG yohji shawl and not blink twice because it looked like a normal shaw while that person knows far more about clothes than I ever will. While the stuff I do notice are probably cheap knockoffs like what happened to me. I stared at that dude's ass for like a good 5 min on and off before finally deciding to ask.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 06:41:50
August 09 2014 06:39 GMT
#4887
i saw a guy with a comme des garcons play shirt in a restaurant once and giggled while heading to my seat

mostly because i think it's silly but even something as popular as that i don't see very often
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
August 09 2014 07:32 GMT
#4888
On August 09 2014 15:22 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Some asian girls are naturally good dressers with just stuff they pull out of nordstrom's and H&M, it's in their genes.

they actually dress pretty poorly if you ignore the fact that they're female
i know it took me a while to see it
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greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
August 09 2014 15:08 GMT
#4889
^ that's a pretty hard thing to ignore tho


i actually see a lot more middle-aged ladies than cool youths wearing cdgplay x converse, in london at least. don't think i've ever seen rick being worn outside of a shop, but i don't hang around in areas where people might
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
August 09 2014 15:20 GMT
#4890
On August 09 2014 16:32 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2014 15:22 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Some asian girls are naturally good dressers with just stuff they pull out of nordstrom's and H&M, it's in their genes.

they actually dress pretty poorly if you ignore the fact that they're female
i know it took me a while to see it

The supreme irony.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
August 09 2014 18:17 GMT
#4891
what's your issue lol
r u confusing me with someone else or smth
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 09 2014 18:37 GMT
#4892
maybe he means Supreme irony

...i still dont get it
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 09 2014 18:41 GMT
#4893
perhaps he's agreeing with you in making the observation that girls who wear Supreme often only appear to be dressed well when in fact their outfits are mostly generic and uncreative even though the brand advertises itself as the opposite, a concept otherwise known as "The Supreme irony." Very incisive observation, dangermousecatdog.
Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
August 09 2014 20:12 GMT
#4894
kid got sand in his vagina or something lmao

sold my blk dnm denim jacket today for $120 to a friend

goddamn it looks good on him because he actually lifts while it's baggy as shit on me
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
August 10 2014 02:14 GMT
#4895
http://www.grailed.com/listings/15759-nike-sb-digifloral-janoski

shit i wanted that really bad 2 yrs ago
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 10 2014 03:09 GMT
#4896
janoskis are pretty easy to get in japan. i kinda regret not buying the hackysack
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Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
August 10 2014 19:51 GMT
#4897
I've been doing a lot of thinking lately but do you think there's any quality of a piece of clothing that's universally desired? For instance if we look at a v-neck t-shirt there's the length of the shirt, the length of the sleeve, how deep the V is, how thick the fabric is, how soft it is etc. etc. Kind of mind boggling to me how I see the same few t-shirts recommended over and over despite the fact that everyone's preferences must be different.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 19:58:52
August 10 2014 19:58 GMT
#4898
price? not sure I understand what you're asking.

but i think that a lot of the highly recommended brands have a good price point worth the product.

ie i keep seeing people rave over uniqlo ocbds. not because its the best ocbd out there (my BB BF is def better quality and cut, though not length; rugby was also better rip let me know if you find a white rugby ocbd in xs) but because it costs $20 and isn't so far below quality of rugby (which actually was like $30-40, so sameish price) and BB and gitman and BoO or whatever that it can hang.

also i think ive accepted that im never gonna look internet cool and thats ok. just so much effort sometimes... i love clothes but i hate wearing them
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 22:03:56
August 10 2014 21:28 GMT
#4899
On August 11 2014 04:51 Demoninja wrote:
I've been doing a lot of thinking lately but do you think there's any quality of a piece of clothing that's universally desired? For instance if we look at a v-neck t-shirt there's the length of the shirt, the length of the sleeve, how deep the V is, how thick the fabric is, how soft it is etc. etc. Kind of mind boggling to me how I see the same few t-shirts recommended over and over despite the fact that everyone's preferences must be different.


Are you talking about cut or fabric? I'd imagine good fabrics like alpaca, linen, etc are universally desired for their respective strengths.

Was browsing through MFA and saw this guide: http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/2cilo9/modernist_streetwear_style_guide/

This guy summarizes the "standard" sufu and sf fits pretty well (more sf I think). Seems like the appeal of the fits he posted are just the fits in themselves and nothing else. It's also the same fit and proportions for every picture. Modernist is not the same as modern, and I don't know if modern is the proper term to describe the styles he's writing about. I don't wanna be like the cynical hipster who hates everything but I only liked a few of the button down pics, rest is pretty nondescript. Reading that guide kinda made me not want to dress like that.

On August 11 2014 04:58 Juliette wrote:
price? not sure I understand what you're asking.

but i think that a lot of the highly recommended brands have a good price point worth the product.

ie i keep seeing people rave over uniqlo ocbds. not because its the best ocbd out there (my BB BF is def better quality and cut, though not length; rugby was also better rip let me know if you find a white rugby ocbd in xs) but because it costs $20 and isn't so far below quality of rugby (which actually was like $30-40, so sameish price) and BB and gitman and BoO or whatever that it can hang.

also i think ive accepted that im never gonna look internet cool and thats ok. just so much effort sometimes... i love clothes but i hate wearing them


I like the thickness of the uniqlo OBCDs and they fit me better than the couple of the non oxford BF shirts I have, more fitted shoulder and chest. BB has been on sale continuously for the past 3-4 months though, not sure if they're doing bad or what. NWT BF shirts can usually be found for around $50 on ebay.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
August 10 2014 22:04 GMT
#4900
I didnt really like that post. I dont think most of sf is like that (from the waywt threads). Its such a big umbrella and i guess its accurate but... Dunno. Its something to draw inspiration from but not an umbrella aesthetic because it lumps in so many things

I'm in between xs and s for uniqlo, bb0 fits me pretty well so its pretty person dependent. Also thiugh, they're designed for different markets (regular dude vs casually dressed guy that shops at bb). So i dunno. Im def getting another uniqlo one though
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