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On July 03 2013 02:59 Juliette wrote:
Just go full #menswear and buy the filson
Although id rather have a waxed canvas.
filson quality sux tho
and I'm looking for leather so probs gonna get marsell if I don't want to spend so much.
On July 03 2013 03:35 greggy wrote:I don't think I've been so excited unpacking anything before + Show Spoiler +but holy shit they fit so well and feel so good I never want to take them off again. got them on sale but totally worth the retail price imho (unless they fall apart, which I don't expect them to)
are those vintage suede? I think that's the only iteration I've seen CPs in that colorway.
I plan on kopping a classic pair next month but I never know if I should tuck laces or have them outside tied, lol.
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yeah, vintage achilles. I think the laces on my pair are just a tad too long to be left outside so I might tuck them in. need to actually wear them on the street to decide though.
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On July 03 2013 05:09 .aquila wrote:
question
suede shoes with jeans: in a liberally applied dante-esque interpretation, what circle of hell (if at all, i'll take purgatory if i can get it) would i be condemned to? loafers/suede loafers with jeans as well
why would you? if it looks good it looks good
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Suede shoes look great with jeans.
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On July 03 2013 05:09 greggy wrote:To keep it fashion-related.On topic: I keep meaning to make a similar topic on reddit MFA but I'll ask here first. How do you take inspiration from the catwalk? I've only gotten into dressing better/fashion fairly recently, but I've always struggled to relate the fashion as we see it at fashion weeks to real life. I understand that those aren't literal fits and are more of an inspiration and noone goes around looking like that but I've (admittedly, rather briefly) gone through most of the albums that were posted r/malefashion and I didn't really feel like I could pull off any of the patterns or cuts that I saw.
oh i didnt see this. i think this is something good to talk about actually. i see a lot of things i like from the runway but im not so sure how i can apply it in a way that doesn't look flamboyant or crazy. although i think, at least for me and where i am with my personal style, i have to look more at a designer's overall themes and stuff outside of just a single collection.
andy go get dat leather.
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On July 03 2013 05:47 Juliette wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 05:09 .aquila wrote:
question
suede shoes with jeans: in a liberally applied dante-esque interpretation, what circle of hell (if at all, i'll take purgatory if i can get it) would i be condemned to? loafers/suede loafers with jeans as well why would you? if it looks good it looks good
idk man i've been going through this fuck-chinos-because-511s/513s-are-so-amazing phase, kinda unhealthy but i guess i'll break out of it slowly
unrelated:was in italy and looked for a tie that wasn't a generic piece of shit for the better part of a month, milan and venice failed me but florence came through.
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college budget but no regrets <3 *crying because i'm in korea and broke for the next couple of weeks*
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On July 03 2013 08:49 Juliette wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 05:09 greggy wrote:To keep it fashion-related.On topic: I keep meaning to make a similar topic on reddit MFA but I'll ask here first. How do you take inspiration from the catwalk? I've only gotten into dressing better/fashion fairly recently, but I've always struggled to relate the fashion as we see it at fashion weeks to real life. I understand that those aren't literal fits and are more of an inspiration and noone goes around looking like that but I've (admittedly, rather briefly) gone through most of the albums that were posted r/malefashion and I didn't really feel like I could pull off any of the patterns or cuts that I saw. oh i didnt see this. i think this is something good to talk about actually. i see a lot of things i like from the runway but im not so sure how i can apply it in a way that doesn't look flamboyant or crazy. although i think, at least for me and where i am with my personal style, i have to look more at a designer's overall themes and stuff outside of just a single collection. andy go get dat leather.
i've always approached couture as inspirational in terms of really generic themes as opposed to more specific concepts. like idk if it was an episode of project runway or something but some dude made an entire line based on his mom's xrays or something and tim gunn was gushing all over it, yeah dont' go there. i always thought one should just find some aesthetic in couture that you find cool, and emulate it when you shop.
personally it's hard for me to find something on the runway i would emulate thematically and that's kinda why i stay away from couture, but whatever
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Not unhealthy. Just do you lol.
What maker of ties are those and what $? Shoulda just picked up somme drakes or EG
Aquila i agree about finding that aesthetic. I suppose the exaggeration is a good way to see it clearly.
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On July 03 2013 13:24 Juliette wrote:
Not unhealthy. Just do you lol.
What maker of ties are those and what $? Shoulda just picked up somme drakes or EG
Aquila i agree about finding that aesthetic. I suppose the exaggeration is a good way to see it clearly.
hehe i'll do me indeed
and rofl the tie was gucci, i got a scarf from them too, not as pretty but still nice. tie was 130 euro (i know i know) and scarf i believe was 195, merino cashmere blend
yeah i agree with the drake's sentiment, they have gorgeous ties for sure but i think i wanted 1. a souvenir from my italy travels and 2. something unique but not overly brazen, and this was the one that met that criteria the most. honestly the branding is kinda annoying but it's subtle enough that i'm not too hung up on it.
also gucci's customer service is godly they treat you like a fucking king O_O
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I am a hopeless shopper...interested getting some nice looking(but inexpensive) collared shirts, mostly to wear under sweaters and have the collar coming over the top.
What kind of stores should i be looking at for these and what are the more favored styles?
If there are any worthwhile online stores that would ship to Australia that would be helpful too.
Thanks for any help x.x
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On July 03 2013 05:09 greggy wrote:To keep it fashion-related.On topic: I keep meaning to make a similar topic on reddit MFA but I'll ask here first. How do you take inspiration from the catwalk? I've only gotten into dressing better/fashion fairly recently, but I've always struggled to relate the fashion as we see it at fashion weeks to real life. I understand that those aren't literal fits and are more of an inspiration and noone goes around looking like that but I've (admittedly, rather briefly) gone through most of the albums that were posted r/malefashion and I didn't really feel like I could pull off any of the patterns or cuts that I saw.
I actually go around look something a bit similar to runways sometimes, but then again I'm one of the biggest Boris Bidjan Saberi fanboys there is ;-)
When you write that "(...) I didn't really feel like I could pull off any of the patterns or cuts that I saw.", I can't figure out if it's a lack or self confidence to wear something that stands out or it is a well thought remark that this certain style, patterns, cuts what ever doesn't fit you? If it is the latter(is that with double t or d?) then I can partly respect it but at the same time think to myself it's a bit strange that with so many designers out there that "talk" to all kind of people it's odd that you haven't found anything that reflect what you want to reflect.
These can get into some rather long philosophical answers and I will try not to, instead I will try to explain what I think and do when I se something that I think look awesome in terms or patterns, cuts, certain pieces from certain designers and such. Of course, to think my way you must already have an idea of what suits you and what doesn't, and have a decent wardrobe with different things that suit you and make your comfortable wearing.
I am a big fan of black on black (in my case Boris Bidjan Saberi, SS11 and FW11 especially) with like a rough, heavy, persian, baggy-skater kind of look. Even though I can absolutely love what other designers do, for example Ann Demeulemeester who makes absolutely stunning clothes (especially her recent collection, SS14), would simply be too hard for me to incorporate for it to look good as she and Boris (this don't have to be a special brand more like a style: do you like formal clothes and is your wardrobe filled with shirts and pants Ann very well could find her way in one way or another) are very far apart. I'm not saying it couldn't be done with certain pieces, I'm saying that at least I don't have the styling skill to make it look good (there are people out there that can though, and it can look absolutely amazing!).
Now when you go to Style.com or wherever you see runway shows and/or pictures of the runway shows, you should think: what do I have right now that I wear a lot (most people, even those with a huge wardrobe will often wear maybe 5-10 pieces and then sometimes change out in some of these either because they get old or "fashion outdated" or just because they want to change something out) and which pieces could actually fit into this? My point being that having an open mind to the different patterns, cuts and pieces in a certain designers runway that is similar and compliant with what you currently wear, a lot of pieces in different colors and patterns that stand out can actually be a very valuable and visibly giving part to your outfit. So hey, try to be imaginative and open as long as it somewhat fits what you currently like to wear.
Hope that just made absolutely no sense, it actually was harder for me to explain that I thought haha
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On July 04 2013 01:05 kuriz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 05:09 greggy wrote:To keep it fashion-related.On topic: I keep meaning to make a similar topic on reddit MFA but I'll ask here first. How do you take inspiration from the catwalk? I've only gotten into dressing better/fashion fairly recently, but I've always struggled to relate the fashion as we see it at fashion weeks to real life. I understand that those aren't literal fits and are more of an inspiration and noone goes around looking like that but I've (admittedly, rather briefly) gone through most of the albums that were posted r/malefashion and I didn't really feel like I could pull off any of the patterns or cuts that I saw. I actually go around look something a bit similar to runways sometimes, but then again I'm one of the biggest Boris Bidjan Saberi fanboys there is ;-) When you write that " (...) I didn't really feel like I could pull off any of the patterns or cuts that I saw.", I can't figure out if it's a lack or self confidence to wear something that stands out or it is a well thought remark that this certain style, patterns, cuts what ever doesn't fit you? If it is the latter(is that with double t or d?) then I can partly respect it but at the same time think to myself it's a bit strange that with so many designers out there that "talk" to all kind of people it's odd that you haven't found anything that reflect what you want to reflect. These can get into some rather long philosophical answers and I will try not to, instead I will try to explain what I think and do when I se something that I think look awesome in terms or patterns, cuts, certain pieces from certain designers and such. Of course, to think my way you must already have an idea of what suits you and what doesn't, and have a decent wardrobe with different things that suit you and make your comfortable wearing. I am a big fan of black on black (in my case Boris Bidjan Saberi, SS11 and FW11 especially) with like a rough, heavy, persian, baggy-skater kind of look. Even though I can absolutely love what other designers do, for example Ann Demeulemeester who makes absolutely stunning clothes (especially her recent collection, SS14), would simply be too hard for me to incorporate for it to look good as she and Boris (this don't have to be a special brand more like a style: do you like formal clothes and is your wardrobe filled with shirts and pants Ann very well could find her way in one way or another) are very far apart. I'm not saying it couldn't be done with certain pieces, I'm saying that at least I don't have the styling skill to make it look good (there are people out there that can though, and it can look absolutely amazing!). Now when you go to Style.com or wherever you see runway shows and/or pictures of the runway shows, you should think: what do I have right now that I wear a lot (most people, even those with a huge wardrobe will often wear maybe 5-10 pieces and then sometimes change out in some of these either because they get old or "fashion outdated" or just because they want to change something out) and which pieces could actually fit into this? My point being that having an open mind to the different patterns, cuts and pieces in a certain designers runway that is similar and compliant with what you currently wear, a lot of pieces in different colors and patterns that stand out can actually be a very valuable and visibly giving part to your outfit. So hey, try to be imaginative and open as long as it somewhat fits what you currently like to wear. Hope that just made absolutely no sense, it actually was harder for me to explain that I thought haha
Are you the guy that posted a fit on here and sz in full bbs?
Regarding the "I didn't really feel like I could pull off any of the patterns or cuts that I saw", I think it's is more of ode to the social unspoken restrictions that are self-imposed when you see fits that you feel you love, but instinctively know it would look completely out of place either at a work area or similar environment.
It's stuff like this that forces me to basically buy two separate wardrobes - one for my 'hobby' and one for work or other related attire.
It's interesting you feel BBS gives a Persian vibe because I've always felt his aesthetic reminds me more of a Russian serf/nomadic aura. His experimentation with materials is to be admired, although I still feel Obscur does leather better.
I also agree that Ann's stuff is really difficult to piece together because her layering & draping is done in a really specific way that either invokes a characteristic "Ann D fit" or simply looks like shit you piled on at random.
On a side note, at the moment my all time favorite designers are probably Yoko Ito (Individual Sentiments), Jona (InAisce), and Tatsuro Horikawa (Julius).
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Heh yes indeed that is me.
Yeah I know what you mean. Getting older and getting "a real job" also means that I have to wear a shirt and be more formal most of the time. Hopefully I will be able to find a job where it's allowed for me to dress like I want to, but for now that is in the future.
I don't think that your "Russian serf/nomadic aura" is all out of the way from what I meant. Especially the term 'nomadic' is very describing I believe. It's just that BBS himself is half persian half german and therefore I assumed that it was from those feelings and experiences he has been inspired to make the looks of ss11 and fw11. I can't really argue too much about the material and makings of leather: I live in a fashion-suburb when it comes to these sorts of brands with only one actual retail store having some Obscur, J_7, a few Silent pieces and even less RO pieces. I have tried some Obscur leathers (I was actually pretty close to get an internship at Obscur but unfortunately that didn't work out in the end) and they were indeed very nice. But I have to say that my own BBS signature leather (the one I was wearing in the photo you talked about in your own post) is indeed very nice and I might be a bit colored from all my love to Boris ;-)
I know what you mean about Anns' stuff and if I should chose differently (and if I were 4-5 cm taller) I would most likely have chosen to buy almost only Ann pieces because I think the romantic look she's having looks so good on tall very thin yet muscular guys.
Uh yes all three very lovely brands, especially Julius isn't far away from what I could wear myself (actually have a Julius leather hanging in my closet somewhere, just never use it <.<). But they are indeed good looking, it's cool that you know so much about these brands. Except for SZ (which I have a user with the same username also) there are only a very few people here in Copenhagen where I live that even know the names of these brands and find them interesting so it's always cool to talk to people in a less formal tone than there is on SZ ;-) (I love the site, don't misunderstand me, but the intellectual level and all is very high and sometimes I can't follow up haha).
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On July 04 2013 01:05 kuriz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 05:09 greggy wrote:To keep it fashion-related.On topic: I keep meaning to make a similar topic on reddit MFA but I'll ask here first. How do you take inspiration from the catwalk? I've only gotten into dressing better/fashion fairly recently, but I've always struggled to relate the fashion as we see it at fashion weeks to real life. I understand that those aren't literal fits and are more of an inspiration and noone goes around looking like that but I've (admittedly, rather briefly) gone through most of the albums that were posted r/malefashion and I didn't really feel like I could pull off any of the patterns or cuts that I saw. I actually go around look something a bit similar to runways sometimes, but then again I'm one of the biggest Boris Bidjan Saberi fanboys there is ;-) When you write that " (...) I didn't really feel like I could pull off any of the patterns or cuts that I saw.", I can't figure out if it's a lack or self confidence to wear something that stands out or it is a well thought remark that this certain style, patterns, cuts what ever doesn't fit you? If it is the latter(is that with double t or d?) then I can partly respect it but at the same time think to myself it's a bit strange that with so many designers out there that "talk" to all kind of people it's odd that you haven't found anything that reflect what you want to reflect. These can get into some rather long philosophical answers and I will try not to, instead I will try to explain what I think and do when I se something that I think look awesome in terms or patterns, cuts, certain pieces from certain designers and such. Of course, to think my way you must already have an idea of what suits you and what doesn't, and have a decent wardrobe with different things that suit you and make your comfortable wearing. I am a big fan of black on black (in my case Boris Bidjan Saberi, SS11 and FW11 especially) with like a rough, heavy, persian, baggy-skater kind of look. Even though I can absolutely love what other designers do, for example Ann Demeulemeester who makes absolutely stunning clothes (especially her recent collection, SS14), would simply be too hard for me to incorporate for it to look good as she and Boris (this don't have to be a special brand more like a style: do you like formal clothes and is your wardrobe filled with shirts and pants Ann very well could find her way in one way or another) are very far apart. I'm not saying it couldn't be done with certain pieces, I'm saying that at least I don't have the styling skill to make it look good (there are people out there that can though, and it can look absolutely amazing!). Now when you go to Style.com or wherever you see runway shows and/or pictures of the runway shows, you should think: what do I have right now that I wear a lot (most people, even those with a huge wardrobe will often wear maybe 5-10 pieces and then sometimes change out in some of these either because they get old or "fashion outdated" or just because they want to change something out) and which pieces could actually fit into this? My point being that having an open mind to the different patterns, cuts and pieces in a certain designers runway that is similar and compliant with what you currently wear, a lot of pieces in different colors and patterns that stand out can actually be a very valuable and visibly giving part to your outfit. So hey, try to be imaginative and open as long as it somewhat fits what you currently like to wear. Hope that just made absolutely no sense, it actually was harder for me to explain that I thought haha
That was very insightful, thanks! Sadly I'm more of the first case rather than the second, in that I don't have nowhere enough experience wearing random stuff to find out what's good and what's not, which leads to lack of confidence. I'm currently at the stage of seriously building a proper wardrobe (at the age of 22, rofl), so on one hand I'm kinda thinking "how can I find/incorporate good quality clothing into my wardrobe" but on the other I'm averse to buying things that are "out there" (not necessarily designer) because I simply don't know how it's going to turn out and I don't want to wear something once and have it collect dust in my cupboard forever. There's also an element of what andy said in that if I wear something like this coat, which I like, everyone that knows me is going to go "what the fuck are you wearing".
I appreciate the advice on how to choose clothing though, I haven't really thought of it this way before.
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greggy: that's a beautiful Ann coat you're linking there. You're absolutely right, that coat is indeed something that I like as well, but if you're not normally wearing things that stand out (this can take quite some time for your social circle to adapt to, a lot of friendly teasing but in the end they just accept that you like it and they accept you) then it can be quite a tough decision to both make the choice of buying it because you don't know if it'll fit you and not just collect dust but also paying the amount designers want for their things today. That is indeed a piece that stand out - especially for a male wearing something that long, with a nature motive on it, but then again, you and andy and a lot of other people out there, guys and girls, actually do think it's pretty nice when someone is being different from the norm.
I'm only 23 so we're about the same age. I do not regret buying all the BBS stuff that I have because it really reflects what I think look good and when I wear it I both feel and look sick as fuck (:D). But if I should give an advice to all the guys out there that want to spend some money on designers stuff, it would be to go for Rick Owens pieces and looks. He does indeed stand out, but his pieces are so viable in so many ways. It can both be gothish but it can also be very formal wear with a twist. He does pretty much the same thing over and over only with small variations, but let's take his leather jackets that he's very well known for, these do have some special features that stand out, but they don't stand out as in it would be odd for you to have a "normal job" with shirt and tie, and have a Rick Owens leather jacket. My point being that he is very diverse and a lot of his pieces fit together in ways that can make it useful on a daily basis. So instead of doing like I (and a lot of other young guys I talk to) have done and try buying from different designers, I would just go for the "safe" and good looking to start with. And then if you get tired of it, you will still have some things from a designer that can be adapted into what we would call "normal" fits without it being to outrageous by any means.
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Well I'm definitely not banging on BBS's leathers, they're all extremely top notch in terms of quality. However, the way Obscur presents their leathers is just so unique.
Also there's a bunch of designers where you can take individual pieces and incorporate them into more 'normal' looking outfits. Just because they match them black on black and in flowey, unique ways, doesn't mean they can't fit perfectly into everyday clothing. Rick is a great example because even though all RO looks really grungy and dark, his individual pieces are very flexible. Helmut Lang for women, Raf for males, some of CCP's leather pieces, etc are all very approachable.
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Some outfits/shoes any input welcome
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Sorry for the horrible quality. I'll upload more if you guys like.
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You would be more attractive if you lost the beard.
Overall a very safe fit, I guess. With all the hand motions I can't even tell what you're wearing for the top.
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Dacendoran I think your pants are a little too tight. not to say it doesn't fit well, but the shoes look very long because of it i think.
I don't like how high rise your pants are, however. But yeah, a safe fit. Just little things.
kuriz that's a really good post. I really enjoyed reading that discussion ^^
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On July 04 2013 11:06 Juliette wrote:
Dacendoran I think your pants are a little too tight. not to say it doesn't fit well, but the shoes look very long because of it i think.
I don't like how high rise your pants are, however. But yeah, a safe fit. Just little things.
kuriz that's a really good post. I really enjoyed reading that discussion ^^
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Sorry about the second image, can't figure out how to resize it now that it's up on imgur, also posted one more outfit. (it's me sitting in a preschool chair.. It's for a friend's movie.
If I get more comments saying I look better without facial hair I will probably take the trimmers to it. At least downsize it some.
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