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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 01 2013 18:26 GMT
#2821
As long as it doesn't scare anyone off! But a lot of people asking how to look good really need to find it for themselves. There's no formula. At best we can critique a look or offer pieces but on a starcraft forum taking the jump to "looking good" is more being comfortable with yourself than anything, and looking around to see elements of clothes you like and going from there.

The ones that end up posting here a lot (myself, andy for example) tend to have certain interests so we talk about it and we just end up posting more often. So we'll talk about designers (solpeaking of i need to look at ss14 already) even though most people reading aren't into that and want more general advice which is better off searchig for on another forum. Not that we won't answer, but questions about buying a suit already have detailed answers elsewhere. I guess the onus is on me to link them.

Idk. Post more fits guys. If i actually wore clothes i would but ive been in shorts and a tank for like a week cause its so fucking hot.

Also got any ideas on what to do with old club t shirts? Im gonna make one or two those cutoff sleeve ones you see at the gym but theres a lot.....
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 01 2013 18:32 GMT
#2822
On July 02 2013 02:44 Juliette wrote:
ah k. still thinking about black denim and i dont want stacks. but it'll be a while before i make the buy i think because im in the middle of renovating my room and new furniture costs $$ .-. although im only planning on dropping $300 since i have a desk/bed so its actually not that bad. but that's a pair of PJBs

http://instagram.com/p/a8KXyBsJw6/#
http://gowithjay.tumblr.com/post/53166099133/more-styles-from-the-jay-park-g-shock-limited

oh shit I've been looking at furniture too rofl
modloft has some legit designs but they're kinda pricey for a college student.
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 18:50:31
July 01 2013 18:48 GMT
#2823
goddamn i love this so much

yeah wont be able to afford 1.7k furniture rn. when i get my own place. but i love it aesthetically. main thing i need is a bookcase tho.

i wonder how much RO furniture costs

78k apparently #notbad
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 20:59:14
July 01 2013 20:31 GMT
#2824
I know right? modloft stuff is dope, reviews say the construction is relatively sturdy/HQ too.
Rove Concepts is another one I'm looking at but the stuff there kinda reminds me of like mid-class hotel furniture. Nevertheless, the internet says it's quite the bang for your buck as their quality is excellent.
This is turning into a general hobby/aesthetics appreciation thread so I'm going to stop here, lol.

On July 02 2013 03:26 Juliette wrote:
As long as it doesn't scare anyone off! But a lot of people asking how to look good really need to find it for themselves. There's no formula. At best we can critique a look or offer pieces but on a starcraft forum taking the jump to "looking good" is more being comfortable with yourself than anything, and looking around to see elements of clothes you like and going from there.

The ones that end up posting here a lot (myself, andy for example) tend to have certain interests so we talk about it and we just end up posting more often. So we'll talk about designers (solpeaking of i need to look at ss14 already) even though most people reading aren't into that and want more general advice which is better off searchig for on another forum. Not that we won't answer, but questions about buying a suit already have detailed answers elsewhere. I guess the onus is on me to link them.

Idk. Post more fits guys. If i actually wore clothes i would but ive been in shorts and a tank for like a week cause its so fucking hot.

Also got any ideas on what to do with old club t shirts? Im gonna make one or two those cutoff sleeve ones you see at the gym but theres a lot.....

oh speaking of s/s14
SLP SUX DIQ LOL
on the real though hedi's collections are consistently worse and worse, but I guess you can only go downhill from 2000. his models were really fucking meh too. Skinny is cool and chic but these guys actually looked like they were on heroin and from a starved leper colony or smth, rofl. Disappointing that it feels like he's ruining the iconic house of Saint Laurent.

Favorite collections were Julius and Ann D, which contrasts heavily with general opinion but whatever.
People say Julius kind of bit off Rick's original aesthetic, which I think is a gigantic stretch and quite the accusation (to accuse a designer of copying another), but overall I thought it was a lot less aggressive in comparison. The collection's outfits just flowed really well and silhouettes in general were just softer. RO kind of grabs your attention with an understated aggressiveness, whereas Tatsuro's collection really accentuates a kind of calm and reservedness that captures your attention with its grace rather than its crassness, if that makes any sense. I can't find anything negative I want to say except that YO TATSURO WHERE'D YOU KOP YOHJI'S FOREHEAD MAKEUP?
As for Ann D, she made kind of a return to the form-fitting androgynous style that really set her apart in the first place. I felt like the prior couple collections she was going for a looser fitting Yohji cut that worked in a way, but didn't actually define her style so I'm glad she decided to return to it. Apparently for this collection she decided to draw inspiration from her garden or whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean, but you can see a kind of playful nature to her collection this time. The busier b/w patterns that she decided to juxtapose with the draped black layering actually add to the overall look instead of detracting, which is kind of hard to pull off when the b/w aesthetic is all about minimalism and minutiae. Great collection overall, but there were a couple outfits that seemed kinda questionable (to me).

Honorable mentions go out to Haider Ackermann (!!!!), Balenciaga, Lanvin, BBS, and Yohji's collections.
Man Ackermann's was fantastic, if you're not into black understated fits you should really check his collection out. I do have to comment on the shiny, loud fabrics though - tone it down and I'd probably fit this into my favorites.
Balenciaga & Lanvin was run-of-the-mill "look this is classic modern luxury clothing" but I found myself really liking it. Nothing new and grandiose and imaginative, but their traditional menswear fits are really on point with slim, modern silhouettes so there's really a lot to like without being drab and redundant.
Boris Bidjan Saberi this season was actually really good, but as this is a personal opinion I've never really vibed that well with his stuff, hence this is in the honorable mentions section and not in the favorites. His fits were just too rough around the edges for me to like. There's nothing wrong with that and many people love that type of style. He took his collection in a cleaner direction this time around and for me, I was really happy about it, but it still retains some of his original vibes that he draws from street and hip-hop styles.
Yohji being Yohji never disappoints. I feel like he's so on point and consistent with the quality of his collections he deserves an honorable mention every season, lol.

On to personal opinions on more uhhhhh.. mediocre (worse) collections.
I really really really didn't like Raf Simon's collection. The whole 'expression of consumerism through art' has been reiterated so many times that it's seriously just boring at this point. I'm not quite sure why Raf decided to go with this theme as it kind of ruined his entire collection for me.
Jil Sander's collection was honestly just boring. Nothing terrible but nothing stuck out, either. Most of her stuff came off as rehashes and there's really not much else to say; I guess you expect more from a classical designer but nothing remarkable came out this time. hopefully next collection will be better because fuck spring and summer right?
RO was a bit over the top, I hated his footwear. His runway, as usual, was super conceptual and loud and in your face, but this time there was simply so much fucking shit going on it was kind of hard to take in. Before you think "3deep5u andy!" I really enjoyed some of his previous runways but this was just too much. I liked some of his collection's garments as they're a lot more 'flowey' and loose than before, so I'm definitely feeling the concept he's trying to go after. However, taken as a whole, it just doesn't mesh well and I'm not sure if this is Rick trying to be different or if it's just a bad concept in general. I guess this is one of the first times that you can't buy all RO this season and expect the mantra "Rick goes with Rick" to still apply.
At the bottom of the list we have SLP. refer to my first paragraph, lol.
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 01 2013 23:24 GMT
#2825
do you just pick and choose designers or follow via forum? just curious. i usually go through style.com and pick and choose. i read reviews for fw13 when i knew nothing but idk. i need to go through older collections that are considered "good"

going through them now
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 02 2013 00:34 GMT
#2826
just going through the list and clicking what catches my eye. reading the notes on there too and leaving myself notes because im collecting looks i liked to post on my blog later

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Z Zegna - supposed to be more sporty via fabrics. I liked a few looks because of the pastel and low rise trousers but i mean it's nothing special.

Yohji - nomad inspired, lots of layering. I like some of the distressed leathers on the suits but my fav part are the layered shorts. you gave it an honorable mention and i see why i guess. it looks just like something he'd put out.

T (Alexander Wang) - there's a pair of pants i like a lot. maybe too low rise for me...

Thom Browne - this is the most effeminate menswear collection ive seen. military inspired looks that look like dolls. I like it, but it's runway fashion and obviously not meant to be worn.

SLP - LOL glam cowboy. what is up with the skinny ass models. this brings up a good point though - obviously with runway, some collections aren't meant to be worn and some are. how do you tell the difference and how do you judge them based on that? Like TB's is obviously so exaggerated it's not meant to be worn for the most part, but SLP looks more like something meant to be put in stores. I see that SLP's looks just don't look good (seriously flamboyant cowboys) but what about conceptual collections?

RO - I kind of see what you mean. judging the collection as a whole and every look together instead of just individually is key, i assume. i should go through some older collections to understand more i think idk. if you care to explain i'd appreciate it.

raf - idk it just looks kinda bad to me overall lol. i dont like the way everything ends up so short at the leg.

margiela - supposed to be just rehashed margiela but i dont know enough about the labels older stuff so idkkk. but theres a pair of boots i like.

lanvin - i see what you mean about luxury menswear. i really like the textures (and the fanny pack).

jil - is it boring in the context of her other collections? I assume so, because i agree that nothing really did stick out...

givenchy - ROBOT TIGHTS. it looks so givenchy lol. i see the african influence. i like it without liking it, lol.

DH - i like this. of course it took a google search to realize that kris van assche is the head, which makes it clear im fuckign noob at this lol. but its black tie x beach and i think some of it looks really good. and then there's the stuff with the squares -_-.

damir doma - it's strange, because DD is tagged as a ninja brand to me so seeing color is... O_o. its supposed to be based on the opposite of a slim silhouette - muscular and all that but i don't really like the way the tops do it.

canali - i guess context helps a lot. knowing what canali is as a label, their fashion is something i actually really like. i know what their suits look like, and what they are, but seeing them do an obv more conservative than other designers but pretty out there for them collection is pretty cool. between a leather blazer, floral prints, and a bomber, i like it a lot. def one of my favorites so far.

balenciaga - i like that wang is continuing to play with outerwear. i agree with you on this one, i like it.

bally - i love their themes. fw13 was/is based on mt everest and stuff and this one is biking. fw13 is really good imo but this is kinda meh. seems too warm for biking AND s/s

ann D - ok i see what you mean. i dont really like it personally but i think ive gone through too many things so its getting hard for me to really dig and analyze and not just look at the clothes and say "oh i really like this." but taking a step back and just looking at some of the looks, i see what you mean. even with such complicated patterns it looks minimal. not my cup of tea though.



so questions so they're all in one place

- how do you tell whether collections are conceptual vs meant to be worn for menswear? women's is usually labeled as rtw vs couture, but menswear is kinda just all mixed in.
- how do you judge how good a conceptual collection is? kinda a silly question to ask how to judge an art form, but I mean, like for raf it just looks pretty bad but i see how his art concept. also, apparently its inspired by his godson or something? because conceptually it's very free flowing and kiddish. but then it kinda just looks meh.
- for non conceptual collections, do you compare the pieces/looks to how well they go with the designer's other collections? or...
- for lanvin's collection, can you elaborate what exactly you like? i suppose i see it - it looks boring without being boring, which is good because it's classic looks that look interesting enough.
- should i be looking at things more like ann D? i guess the reason i think its good is because its easy to see minimalism in the complexity. but then again, i read what you wrote and used that as a guide a little bit. for her fw13 i judged a lot of things based on the theme of lightness that she used and i liked it a lot as well. i saw the ways she did.

i dunno i should just look at more stuff so i can judge runway collections better.

sorry if this is a mess to read
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Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
July 02 2013 02:00 GMT
#2827
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My friend has one of their daypacks, really good quality stuff imo. Worth looking into, I'd cop one if it wasn't for my ToJ, need to lay off everything for awhile after that while I recover.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 02 2013 04:02 GMT
#2828
i remember seeing that and wanting the fuck out of it.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 02 2013 05:30 GMT
#2829
most if not all of the runways from the past week or so are meant to be worn, and only certain fashion houses are allowed to label their collections as haute couture. Dior and Chanel are two 'certified' labels I can come up with off the top of my head.
anyways, the word is so overused in the mouths of everyday people that at this point it's simply a blanket expression for anything that looks experimental. technically all runway shows are 'haute couture' in a sense because the models/clothes are custom fitted, but it's just semantics and a name in the end.
there's no direct answer to your question.

idk about the raf question, his collection just looked meh to me and the concept is overplayed and poorly executed in my opinion. apparently he did the rare interview after the runway and he just ranted about children's spirits and interzones which he tried to portray in the collection.
I think there comes a time when you, the designer, cannot even hope to adequately express your grandiose vision in words, then it's safe to say there's definitely nobody who will understand wtf you're trying to say with the art you produce.
execution and expression in this regard are crucial. needless to say, the creativity in the form of expression is equally important.

every collection has to have a unifying theme to it, so there's really no such thing as a conceptless collection. liking a collection is also separate from liking the individual pieces from it. For example, I said I liked Haider Ackermann's collection, to be taken as a whole. individually, if one attempts to recreate the fit outside the realm of the runway, it's going to turn out badly because the fit ends up looking kinda new-money-idk-how-to-dress-but-Im-flaunting-my-wealth levels of douchey. I think Jil's collection was a great example of stuff that would look great independently but taken together it just looks uninspired and more of the same shit she's been doing.

I just liked the Lanvin collection because it was so classic but experimental in the way that it doesn't necessarily push the envelope, but rather expands the sphere of acceptance in menswear, which honestly has gotten kind of tiring. Trends may come and go but style is forever? sure, but stick around long enough and it also gets pretty stale.
At least, that's how I view it. Those super short shorts seriously needs to go though, I ain't too big of a fan of that.

Ann is one of my favorite designers mainly because of the serene, understated aggressiveness her female collections emanate whilst maintaining an aura of femininity. Likewise, her male collections embody a kind of confident passivity and grace without sacrificing masculinity. Other designers are super inyourface when pursuing this idea of entertwining genders; for example, Tom Forde (Gucci in its prime) made his female collection super masculine that kind of embodies sexiness, whereas Hedi designed his heyday homme collection attempting to invoke an extremely feminine silhouette.
There's really no direct answer to this question wither, just look at shit that pleases you, that resonates with your own preconceptions without being closeminded.

who knows though? might just all be bullshit and conjecture of a dude that studies clothes through the Internet, lol.
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Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
July 02 2013 05:34 GMT
#2830
tfw no extreme steez supreme gf

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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 06:15:27
July 02 2013 05:55 GMT
#2831
On July 02 2013 14:30 andyrau wrote:
most if not all of the runways from the past week or so are meant to be worn, and only certain fashion houses are allowed to label their collections as haute couture. Dior and Chanel are two 'certified' labels I can come up with off the top of my head.
custom fitted, but it's just semantics and a name in the end.


...

who knows though? might just all be bullshit and conjecture of a dude that studies clothes through the Internet, lol.

i thought haute couture only applied to womenswear? funny story about that: my moms friend had a dress custom made for her in the Philippines and the company that did it had "haute couture" on their logo. being the little shit i am i told my mom "thats false theres only some companies that are allowed to do that lololol"

lol, im doing the same thing so its not like i can say much ahahah. but it's an artform i guess. just gotta keep looking through. but i still really like that canali show.

edit:

20% off makr

http://makr.com/

fuck im so sad both bags i want are on sale but i dont need to buy one right now
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 02 2013 07:28 GMT
#2832
man I hate kids that wear supreme/flick cameras off
and didn't supreme/bapes stop being the cool thing to wear like 6 years ago or smth wtf

taken at face value "haute couture" basically means custom clothing, but definition-wise it only applies to female fashion. nowadays anything can be couture if it's just a bit edgy.

what's the word on them makr eyeglass cases? I kinda need one. and by need I mean I want one
I also semi need a messenger bag but I'm debating whether I should buy a guidi one or not. another grail, I guess?
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Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 08:54:40
July 02 2013 08:54 GMT
#2833
that's gonna be a big no on that guidi one

perhaps im just not a big fan of messenger bags in the first place

r u jealous of steezy kids in supreme andy?????
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 02 2013 09:47 GMT
#2834
i cant use the glasses cases bc i need glasses all the time but i've heard they're good.

i dont like the guidi either but its not rly my thing. and for 1.7k get the furniture!
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 02 2013 15:26 GMT
#2835
I need a messenger bag because nobody wears a backpack to work, and there really aren't any alternatives to messenger bags/carryalls
if backpacks were ok I'd just proxy a visvim ballistic or something but unfortunately that doesnt cut it
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 02 2013 17:59 GMT
#2836
Just go full #menswear and buy the filson

Although id rather have a waxed canvas.
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greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
July 02 2013 18:35 GMT
#2837
I don't think I've been so excited unpacking anything before

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but holy shit they fit so well and feel so good I never want to take them off again. got them on sale but totally worth the retail price imho (unless they fall apart, which I don't expect them to)
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 02 2013 19:05 GMT
#2838
a) the packaging is really nice

b) post more dog pictures please .

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greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
July 02 2013 20:09 GMT
#2839
To keep it fashion-related.

On topic: I keep meaning to make a similar topic on reddit MFA but I'll ask here first. How do you take inspiration from the catwalk? I've only gotten into dressing better/fashion fairly recently, but I've always struggled to relate the fashion as we see it at fashion weeks to real life. I understand that those aren't literal fits and are more of an inspiration and noone goes around looking like that but I've (admittedly, rather briefly) gone through most of the albums that were posted r/malefashion and I didn't really feel like I could pull off any of the patterns or cuts that I saw.
.aquila
Profile Joined July 2011
United States68 Posts
July 02 2013 20:09 GMT
#2840
question

suede shoes with jeans: in a liberally applied dante-esque interpretation, what circle of hell (if at all, i'll take purgatory if i can get it) would i be condemned to? loafers/suede loafers with jeans as well
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