TL vs. Climate Change (Denial) - Page 16

I'll buy into this fad when they find manbearpig, and when snow stops falling in vermont.

CO2 is not a pollutant and that's not the hypothesis in the scare; Pollution is a separate and important issue.

The Vestok ice cores, the basis for much of climate studies, indicates post the ice age (plesitocene era) there has been a relatively stable period of temperature in contrast (holscene period.) Putting warming in context, looking back 16,000 years, you can say the earth has been warming, for its much warmer since the ice age; back 10,000 years there has been mild cooling but relatives statis; back 2000 years there was mild cooling as well; back 100 years massive warming!; back 10 years relative stasis.

The GISP and GIRP state looking back 5,000 years there have been several warm periods; Egyptian, Minean, Roman, Medievil, and late 20th up to the 21st.

The Vostok cores show going back 400,000 years that the 1.5 degree celsius variation from 1979-2005 was within the normal variation shown throughout the holoscene period.

Anthony Watts, meteorologist and founder of surfacestations.org, studied the so-called best weather stations of the NOAA USHCN and sighted incorrect placement of temperature gauges near air conditioners and on top of asphalt, which accounted for the sharp increase in temperature readings during the early 2000s.

Jones and Wang's studies of Chinese urban heat island effect have been debunked by Douglas J Kennan, stating of the 84 stations used in the study, 49 of the 84 stations cited have no historical record to indicate accurate readings. Of the 35 stations with records, they have been moved repeatedly, reducing the validity of their data. These studies are a large part of the IPCC's backbone.

The Iris effect, proposed by Richard A Lindzen in 2001, suggests increased sea surface temps in the tropics would result in more cirrus clouds, reducing infrared radiation leakage and perhaps creating a cooling effect in the coming decades. Roy Spencer at University of Alabama, Hunstivlle confirmed the finding in 2007 using updated satellite data.

Over the last 400,000 years according to the Vostok data, temp peaks have occurred six times over zero degrees celsius. Our holoscene period is one of those peaks; Within the holoscene period there has been a period in the 14th century called the Little Ice Age (1550-1850) and a medievil warm period (950-1150), which have been left out of the "hockey-stick" graph that Michael E. Mann posited in a 1998 article "Global-scale temperature patterns and climate forcing over the past six centuries". Actually, the bulk of the 20th C. warming was between 1905 and 1940; a cooling period existed between 1940 and 1975, when CO2 production from humans rose.

Here's the kicker against the CO2 argument; CO2 is .054% of the atmospheric gasses. Of the Greenhouse Gasses, wator vapor composes 95% of it. Greenhouse Gas global warming would be indicated by greater warming in the troposphere but actually satellite and weather balloon data from that height indicates the surface warming was more intense during this recent warming period and temperature actually decreased with altitude.

Piers Corbyn, solar physiciist and long range forecaster has indicated sun spots have a direct correlation with weather forecasting and warming; During the Little Ice Age he observed less solar activity, indicating a cooling period.

Margaret Thatcher was integral to the IPCC's success; In 1988 the MET office helped fund and form the IPCC and release the first international climate change report of its kind in 1990. The interesting thing is how it coincided with the union miner's strike.

Regarding funding, prior to Bush senior's presidency, climate studies had about $140 million in federal funding. That number rose to $2 billion in the 1990s.

Regarding sea levels, they are not effected by global warming or the melting of ice caps. Two factors are major contributors to sea level rises; one is local rises and falls from the land, not the sea and second, neustatic changes in the ocean thru thermal expansion, which is almost impossible to measure.

The International Arctic Research Center observes expansion and contraction of the ice caps yearly and by season. They are always melting and freezing over time, for the greatest discrpency in temperature is not global changes over time (less than 1 degree celsius) but the variation between the poles over seasons.

Paul Reiter, who contributed to the third IPCC report in 2001, resigned because the IPCC was making incorrect models for climate change and his name was on the report. He testified before the US Congress in 2006, using his expertise on malaria not being a tropical disease and therefore not a global warming issue for the northern hemisphere, for it already wiped out thousands in Russia and many near the arctic circle.

Robert M. Carter, Marine Geophysical Lab at James Cook University in Queensland
Ian Clark, Dept. of Earth Sciences at University of Ottawa
Piers Corbyn, forecaster and founder of Weather Action (use of the sun to predict weather and climate patterns.)
John Christy, IPCC report 3 author and professor at the University of Alabama Hunstville; helped develop the first satellite temperature record with Roy Spencer
Philip Stott, Emeritus of Biogeography at the University of London
Paul Reiter, former IPCC report participant; current member of the WHO and professor of medical entomology at the Pasteur Institute in Paris
Roy Spencer, professor at the Principle Research Institute at University of Alabama Huntsville
Patrick Michaels, professor for the Department of Environmental Sciences at University of Virginia
Nigel Calder, former New Scientist editor
Syun-Ichi Akasotu, director of the International Arctic Research Center
Tim Ball, professor of climatology at the University of Winnipeg
Frederick Singer, 1st director for the USNWSS
Eigil Friis-Christensen, director of the Danish National Space Center
Lord Lawson of Blaby, Chancellor of the Exchequer, 1987-1989