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On March 23 2012 13:37 sc14s wrote:
tbh i don't think converting to metric has anything to do with how hard it is to convert over to metric for the states. Here in the states we tend to be.. how to put it.. stubborn i guess would be close. We have our way of doing things and don't really give a rats ass about how the rest of the world does it. There are other instances of this like American football compared to the rest of the worlds football for example.
That's not a great example there. The rest of the world doesn't unite under soccer like they do with the metric system. Lots of different footballs are played, rather than just 2.
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wtf, I voted for Standard thinking it was Metric. (Since it is used by the International Standardization Organization). Please change poll's values for metric and Imperial.
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On March 23 2012 21:00 Bobble wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 13:37 sc14s wrote:
tbh i don't think converting to metric has anything to do with how hard it is to convert over to metric for the states. Here in the states we tend to be.. how to put it.. stubborn i guess would be close. We have our way of doing things and don't really give a rats ass about how the rest of the world does it. There are other instances of this like American football compared to the rest of the worlds football for example. That's not a great example there. The rest of the world doesn't unite under soccer like they do with the metric system. Lots of different footballs are played, rather than just 2.
Yeah... Well once again everyone but the British old colonies play the same kind of football.
I think the stubbornness has to come from being English. There's something in the blood. For instance the English had their pounds be split up into 20 shillings or 240 pennies for 900 years ^^
There's something about the need for being different, at any cost, without any particular reason.
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The reason I believe the US doesn't standardize to metric is because of costs and that we really don't need to. Working in the aerospace industry for a large aircraft manufacturer, I can imagine the huge costs to overhead accounts, and/or customers to convert all engineering drawings, specs, CAD software, CNC machines, inspection equipment, etc to a metric system. The benefits really do not outweigh the costs required to do so.
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On March 23 2012 12:18 BabyGiraldo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 13:42 reincremate wrote:
Just in case this isn't a troll thread, the metric system is the standard in every country in the world except the US. Yeah but the Imperial System is still the standard in every country that matters.
Thread can be closed - this guy won the thread.
Brace yourself for Blitzkrieg 2.0 around the world from the imperial Empire.
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On March 23 2012 12:18 BabyGiraldo wrote:
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Yeah but the Imperial System is still the standard in every country that matters.
Thread can be closed - this guy won the thread.
Brace yourself for Blitzkrieg 2.0 around the world from the imperial Empire.
Ever wonder why there's a dramatic jump in the number of british accents between the 3rd and 4th star wars movies? We got rid of metrics, and all of europe
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I work part-time at Home Depot here in Canada and the odd thing about that is that obviously the Canadian standard is metric but when it comes down to measurements for wood and even just customers talking about projects in general everyone speaks in terms of feet. Actually come to think of it, whenever height is brought into conversation, it's always feet too.
Sure, the "foot" might be an obscure measurement but saying you need six eight foot 2x4s or saying you're 5'9 is a lot simpler than saying you're like 1.74 metres tall I guess.
Distance though? Always metric, all the time here. Driving in terms of KpH sure makes it seem like you're going a lot faster too :D
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Imperial is old, dated and should be forgotten. Only time i use it is to annoy my cuz whos an architect and boy does he hate it.
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I learned the imperial system as well as the metric and it is kinda obvious that the metric system is easier for calculations, more convinient in engineering (for example).
Even more ovbious though is that you prefer the system you grew up in. Who wouldve thought that?
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A little odd, being the new global superpower on the block but is the last bastion of archaic foreign unit system and religion. What a bizarre legacy people will look back on. The U.S.A.: fast food and entertainment empire.
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On March 23 2012 22:30 AimlessAmoeba wrote:
I work part-time at Home Depot here in Canada and the odd thing about that is that obviously the Canadian standard is metric but when it comes down to measurements for wood and even just customers talking about projects in general everyone speaks in terms of feet. Actually come to think of it, whenever height is brought into conversation, it's always feet too.
Sure, the "foot" might be an obscure measurement but saying you need six eight foot 2x4s or saying you're 5'9 is a lot simpler than saying you're like 1.74 metres tall I guess.
Distance though? Always metric, all the time here. Driving in terms of KpH sure makes it seem like you're going a lot faster too :D
Well you don't say "I'm one point 74 metres tall", you say "I'm one seventy four" or "I'm one and seventy four" depending on what sounds smoother in whatever language you're using :p
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Sadly, I still have to roughly convert people's height into feet/inches to visualise how tall they are. I know I am 6ft (183), but if someone says they are 190cm, I immediately think, ah they are 6'3"ish. Same deal with weight and distance really.
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It's funny that it's called imperial, as the metric system was introduced by an emperor 
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On December 09 2011 13:32 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
Advantages of Standard
1. Standard goes more naturally with fractions - quarter of a pint, half foot, etc. Technically, you don't say half meter but rather 50 centimeters or 500 millimeters.
2. Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces. No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet.
To 1. Why would it be more natural?
To 2. wtf? In Europe you will only uses "ounce" for gold...
To my mind:
1. SI system goes more naturally with fractions, Why wouldnt you say half a meter?
2. They are mor practical and convenient: you buy wood in meter and buy drinks in L / ml depending on what it is
Everything you say is seems wrong to me because I am used to standard system... Why would you even use non S.I. units?
Everytime i read some scientific paper from Uk / USandA, i struggle with the units...
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On March 23 2012 22:14 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 22:08 Smackfools wrote:
The reason I believe the US doesn't standardize to metric is because of costs and that we really don't need to. Working in the aerospace industry for a large aircraft manufacturer, I can imagine the huge costs to overhead accounts, and/or customers to convert all engineering drawings, specs, CAD software, CNC machines, inspection equipment, etc to a metric system. The benefits really do not outweigh the costs required to do so. I find it hard to believe that 99% of the things in engineering, physics, chemistry, arent in metric even in the US.
I wasn't talking about Physics, chemistry etc and I never said anything about 99% aren't in metric. Learn to read.... I'm talking specifically from an aerospace engineering standpoint, because that's all i've been experienced in. Most of the aerospace companies in the US use the imperial system. Most, if not all, mil specs and NAS specs use the imperial system. I'm just giving my opinion about why I think these companies dont convert, and its because of costs to do so, also contracts play a large part in what system to use as well.
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On March 23 2012 22:14 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 22:08 Smackfools wrote:
The reason I believe the US doesn't standardize to metric is because of costs and that we really don't need to. Working in the aerospace industry for a large aircraft manufacturer, I can imagine the huge costs to overhead accounts, and/or customers to convert all engineering drawings, specs, CAD software, CNC machines, inspection equipment, etc to a metric system. The benefits really do not outweigh the costs required to do so. I find it hard to believe that 99% of the things in engineering, physics, chemistry, arent in metric even in the US.
Well you better start believing. I am an engineer who exclusively uses the imperial system of measurement for every single thing I do. There are thousands of state records (in my state alone) that all have measurements in feet, acres, and acre-feet because that's the way things have been done here for 150 years. Converting them all would be pointless (since all of our work is local and everyone here is comfortable with the units) and expensive.
I never understood why the rest of the world (since the U.S. is one of the last countries to use Imperial) feels compelled to argue why imperial is bad (we know it is) and why we should switch. Does it really matter? How does it affect you at all? Metric may be a lot more intuitive, but I still can't visualize height in meters or weight (mass) in kilograms. It just doesn't register with my brain, and I have to convert it because I grew up with a different system.
Converting our entire country to metric would accomplish virtually nothing and cost a ton of money. I like to think we have more important places for that money to go.
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When I'm in the UK i use metric, imperial when im back state-side. Lol.
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On March 24 2012 00:13 ZasZ. wrote:
Well you better start believing. I am an engineer who exclusively uses the imperial system of measurement for every single thing I do. There are thousands of state records (in my state alone) that all have measurements in feet, acres, and acre-feet because that's the way things have been done here for 150 years. Converting them all would be pointless (since all of our work is local and everyone here is comfortable with the units) and expensive.
I never understood why the rest of the world (since the U.S. is one of the last countries to use Imperial) feels compelled to argue why imperial is bad (we know it is) and why we should switch. Does it really matter? How does it affect you at all? Metric may be a lot more intuitive, but I still can't visualize height in meters or weight (mass) in kilograms. It just doesn't register with my brain, and I have to convert it because I grew up with a different system.
Converting our entire country to metric would accomplish virtually nothing and cost a ton of money. I like to think we have more important places for that money to go.
Funny because you certainly used SI during your studies didnt you?
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My course litterature in physics which is made by an american professor and made for american unis, uses nothing but metric
they're not all bad, folks
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