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Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
January 10 2012 12:42 GMT
#1001
imperial, but because i live in the US and was raised with it. if i had a choice in the matter though id use metric.
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Manex
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia156 Posts
January 10 2012 13:06 GMT
#1002
On December 09 2011 13:43 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 13:38 Ryndika wrote:
I'm from country that doesn't use standard but when I'm drawing I think about things in feets and inches. I have no idea why, though, heheh.
I wonder if in USA where you use standard, you also use metric?
No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet.

but that's using 3rd dimension also, right?

please tell me where i can buy 0.3x0.3x3.6 meter wood

anywhere in any country that uses the metric system, seriously any lumberyard in a metric country uses metric, i dont know why its so hard for people to understand that. as an engineer i need to know both because we use supplies imported from the US, but there is no reason all those components couldnt be manufactured in metric, would certainly make my life easier ><
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paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
January 10 2012 13:17 GMT
#1003
I see no reason to use imperial, other than it being difficult to adjust to metric for most Americans.

From a merits point of view, there is no benefit of imperial over metric.
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
January 10 2012 13:23 GMT
#1004
Standard. Because I live in America and speaking in meters just makes me sound like a pompous asshole...

It's just where you live... I will not concede that Celsius is better than Fahrenheit when it comes to everyday usage however... It's nonsensical that a 0-33 system is preferred over a 0-100 system. In a scientific context sure, Celsius/Kelvin are a few magnitudes better, but in any other context it's just sub-par. (Celsius is also not particularly useful when it comes to cooking, because you have to go into decimals when you're trying to get exact internal temperatures.)
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3996 Posts
January 10 2012 13:26 GMT
#1005
I use the metric system for everything. But when I lived in Ireland I had no choice but to use the imperial system for short lengths, weights and volumes. I never learnt how to use advanced units like cubed feet or psis naturally. I don't have to tell you I was glad they don't have the 12 pence per shilling and 20 shilling per pound anymore. My business class teacher was able to fluently calculate using those.
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
January 10 2012 13:28 GMT
#1006
On January 10 2012 22:23 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Standard. Because I live in America and speaking in meters just makes me sound like a pompous asshole...

It's just where you live... I will not concede that Celsius is better than Fahrenheit when it comes to everyday usage however... It's nonsensical that a 0-33 system is preferred over a 0-100 system. In a scientific context sure, Celsius/Kelvin are a few magnitudes better, but in any other context it's just sub-par. (Celsius is also not particularly useful when it comes to cooking, because you have to go into decimals when you're trying to get exact internal temperatures.)


Where is the problem going into decimals with Celsius? Besides that, what are you cooking that requires X.125°C, lol?
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 10 2012 13:32 GMT
#1007
On January 10 2012 22:23 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Standard. Because I live in America and speaking in meters just makes me sound like a pompous asshole...

It's just where you live... I will not concede that Celsius is better than Fahrenheit when it comes to everyday usage however... It's nonsensical that a 0-33 system is preferred over a 0-100 system. In a scientific context sure, Celsius/Kelvin are a few magnitudes better, but in any other context it's just sub-par. (Celsius is also not particularly useful when it comes to cooking, because you have to go into decimals when you're trying to get exact internal temperatures.)



implying when you put your oven to 400f it is never 399f in any part of the oven at any time.
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 13:40:32
January 10 2012 13:39 GMT
#1008
On January 10 2012 22:23 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Standard. Because I live in America and speaking in meters just makes me sound like a pompous asshole...

It's just where you live... I will not concede that Celsius is better than Fahrenheit when it comes to everyday usage however... It's nonsensical that a 0-33 system is preferred over a 0-100 system. In a scientific context sure, Celsius/Kelvin are a few magnitudes better, but in any other context it's just sub-par. (Celsius is also not particularly useful when it comes to cooking, because you have to go into decimals when you're trying to get exact internal temperatures.)


you obliviously never used Celsius then, nobody puts their oven on decimals, infact you can't control the temperatur more precise than plus minus 5 degrees. Standard temperature you use is between 150 and 220 degrees celcius.

edit: for cooking celcius is way better, because water boils at 100 degrees
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3996 Posts
January 10 2012 13:40 GMT
#1009
On January 10 2012 22:23 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Standard. Because I live in America and speaking in meters just makes me sound like a pompous asshole...

It's just where you live... I will not concede that Celsius is better than Fahrenheit when it comes to everyday usage however... It's nonsensical that a 0-33 system is preferred over a 0-100 system. In a scientific context sure, Celsius/Kelvin are a few magnitudes better, but in any other context it's just sub-par. (Celsius is also not particularly useful when it comes to cooking, because you have to go into decimals when you're trying to get exact internal temperatures.)


You do know Fahrenheit isn't built around 0 and 100? The creator chose 0 as the temperature of brine; 30 as the melting point of water. Fahrenheit later recalibrated the scale so 32 is the melting point and 96 is the average body temperature because it allowed him to half the interval (64 degrees) 6 times. This stuff wouldn't do bad in a fairytale.

DenSkumle
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway108 Posts
January 10 2012 14:35 GMT
#1010
I know the metric system scares you americans, but lets face it, it's better
ferencziffra
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria29 Posts
January 10 2012 14:39 GMT
#1011
Just ROFL. Even though the USA still uses a non-sensical system like the Imperial, what on earth makes anyone believe that it may be called "standard"?! It's not about where you live. Sure, if you live in the USA you are taught to use the Imperial system, for which among other things I pity Americans. But - how much exactly is one Foot? Or one Inch? How do you define it? What's your reference?

Besides being a decimal, i.e. mathematically logical, system, the Metric system has specific values for each of its units. E.g. 1 Metre = the length that light travels in vacuum for 1/299792458 of a second. Period. And so on. It's a specific value.

Of course I use Metric and I don't see the point labeling any products with another system in existence today. In any circumstance.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
January 10 2012 14:40 GMT
#1012
imperial, because america owns too much to use some crappy measurement system that everyone else uses
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Dakk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden572 Posts
January 10 2012 14:50 GMT
#1013
I think the metric system is better and the other one is just stupid. A miracly america have not changed yet.
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Auren
Profile Joined November 2011
United States82 Posts
January 10 2012 14:53 GMT
#1014
Interesting, reading a random thread on TL taught me something new today. Despite the fact that I'm 26 and a college grad, I've never once had a class or text book refer to our measurement system as continental or imperial. We always learned metric vs standard.

Sigh... no wonder Georgia has one of the worst public school systems in the country
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
January 10 2012 14:53 GMT
#1015
Guys, stop feeding the troll already...
DJFaqU
Profile Joined May 2011
466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:56:15
January 10 2012 14:56 GMT
#1016
The posted advantages of standard only apply where standard is the standard, so they don't make a lot of sense.
Karok
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands142 Posts
January 10 2012 15:00 GMT
#1017
Stop referring to Imperial as "Standard", it's not standard. If anything, Metric is standard (as far is most of the worlds population is concerned)
SecondSandwich
Profile Joined July 2008
United States319 Posts
January 10 2012 15:00 GMT
#1018
On December 11 2011 05:51 SF-Fork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 03:52 Forikorder wrote:
i use both styles in my work as a cook

when weighing things its better to use grams since its easier to get more accurate

and for temprerature its better to use F for the same reason



How is F more accurate than C for cooking? I mean, in C you use 0 for freezing ater and 100 for boiling, while in F you use 32 and 212. I would say a 0-100 system is easier to measure than 32-212...

EDIT: according to wiki the F scale is official only in the US, Cayman Islands and Belize. Now that's stuborness.


I think he means that he prefers F because the difference between 1 degree is smaller in F than in C. Therefore you can more precisely measure the temperature.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 15:14:44
January 10 2012 15:04 GMT
#1019

Advantages of Standard
1. Standard goes more naturally with fractions - quarter of a pint, half foot, etc. Technically, you don't say half meter but rather 50 centimeters or 500 millimeters.

2. Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces. No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet.


You have clearly never bought anything ever in the metric system. Firstly, how is 400ml worse than 12 ounces (disregarding the fact that liquids are sold in 33cl, half liter, or liter quantities in most of the world). Why the hell are you comparing metrics of volume and mass to eachother in the first place? Unless you mean fluid ounce, which just goes to show how stupid the whole system is, where you use the same word for two entirely different things (and don't try to tell me that 1 ounce is the same as 1 fluid ounce, because that clearly depends on the density of your liquid... in fact, googling shows it isn't even true for water, which just makes the whole system more retarded still).

Secondly how is 5 meters the same as a 3dimensional space? If you want a piece of wood of 1x1x12 feet, that would be 30cm x 30 cm x 3.6m which seems like a very oddly shaped piece of wood, but whatever floats your boat. A plank, however can easily be measured in centimeters, for instance 1x10x200 for a 2 meter long plank of 10 cm wide and 1cm thick. In fact, we can easily switch to meters for the length if cm gets unhandy.

As for halves. Half a liter and half a kilo are perfectly normal to say (in fact, 500 ml is really strange to say, even when reading a recipe that literally writes 500 ml, you still say half a liter: the conversion is automatic). The reason you don't use half a meter is because 50 cm is more intuitive. However, half a kilometer is entirely normal. In fact, the conversion between 500m and .5 km is one of the main strengths of the metric system. It's so easy to convert between the various orders of magnitude that you don't have to think about it. However, if I want to know how many gallons 15pints and 3 cups is, I am pretty damn fucked.

PS. If the metric system is so bad, why didn't you copy over the british monetary system with delightful quantities such as sixpence and crowns? Oh wait, because the world has moved on and found better ways of spending our time than trying to figure out how many farthings go into a guinea.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
January 10 2012 15:08 GMT
#1020
On January 10 2012 22:23 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Standard. Because I live in America and speaking in meters just makes me sound like a pompous asshole...

It's just where you live... I will not concede that Celsius is better than Fahrenheit when it comes to everyday usage however... It's nonsensical that a 0-33 system is preferred over a 0-100 system. In a scientific context sure, Celsius/Kelvin are a few magnitudes better, but in any other context it's just sub-par. (Celsius is also not particularly useful when it comes to cooking, because you have to go into decimals when you're trying to get exact internal temperatures.)

0-33, I am confused ? In Celsius 0 is temperature of water freezing, 100 is temperature of water boiling. Nice and simple and thanks to this fact makes more sense than Fahrenheit, otherwise they have no other pros or cons comparatively. What cons do you actually see in Celsius/Kelvin compared to Fahrenheit.
As for cooking, why would you use fractions for cooking, are you making magical potions or just do you have a meth lab ? I never heard of anyone using fractions of Celsius for cooking. At best you use like whole degrees, but mostly around 5 degrees is precision enough.
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