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On January 11 2012 00:38 ballasdontcry wrote:
i'm in the sciences, so metric obviously.
there's really no excuse for using anything but metric/SI units in the sciences, really.
Well I'm a physicist and we sometimes like to use cgs (centimeter, grams,seconds), especially in electrodynamics (because some equations look a little nicer because it leaves c as the only constant) and astrophysics (here it makes no sense to me ^^)
obviously it's still metric (except the time;)) but not SI
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The imperial system can be more accurate in situations, while the metric is easier to use. I don't know where people get the idea that American's don't use the metric system. I use the metric system in all my science classes everyday. I was also taught the metric system along with the imperial system since middle school, I believe it's required in the state of Michigan that you are taught both.
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On January 10 2012 23:39 ferencziffra wrote:
Just ROFL. Even though the USA still uses a non-sensical system like the Imperial, what on earth makes anyone believe that it may be called "standard"?! It's not about where you live. Sure, if you live in the USA you are taught to use the Imperial system, for which among other things I pity Americans. But - how much exactly is one Foot? Or one Inch? How do you define it? What's your reference?
Besides being a decimal, i.e. mathematically logical, system, the Metric system has specific values for each of its units. E.g. 1 Metre = the length that light travels in vacuum for 1/299792458 of a second. Period. And so on. It's a specific value.
Of course I use Metric and I don't see the point labeling any products with another system in existence today. In any circumstance.
1 meter was originally defined as some fraction of eatrh's meridian and later some platinum stick of that length, which is stored somewhere in Paris IIRC, became reference of 1 meter. Only later it was redefined as distance that light travels in some time, but it still corresponds to length of that platinum stick, more or less.
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On January 11 2012 00:58 FADCoUltra wrote:
BTW, does europe really have "Royal With Cheese" instead of Quarter Pounder With Cheese?
We do, mayonnaise with fries is the best, and im pretty sure you can't get beers into movie theatre now
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About cooking and ~5 celsius degree precision it does matter. Not the ovens heat but the meats internal temperature
For example heres some beef steak numbers.
75°C+ = Overcooked (The way i prefer my red meat, much to the disbelief of my fellow chef in trainees)
~72°C = welldone
~68°C = medium well / medium+
~64°C = medium
~60°C = medium rare /medium-
51°C- = rare
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On January 11 2012 01:00 SySLeif wrote:
The imperial system can be more accurate in situations, while the metric is easier to use. I don't know where people get the idea that American's don't use the metric system. I use the metric system in all my science classes everyday. I was also taught the metric system along with the imperial system since middle school, I believe it's required in the state of Michigan that you are taught both.
So why not just only use the metric system?
Would make things easier.
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On January 11 2012 01:10 Technique wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 01:00 SySLeif wrote:
The imperial system can be more accurate in situations, while the metric is easier to use. I don't know where people get the idea that American's don't use the metric system. I use the metric system in all my science classes everyday. I was also taught the metric system along with the imperial system since middle school, I believe it's required in the state of Michigan that you are taught both. So why not just only use the metric system? Would make things easier.
It costs money, youd have to remake all tools, roadsigns, textbooks and whatnot
*Edit as an example i know my father owned a car made in america, a FORD and none of the tools we use here fits the car because in USA they use tools suited for imperial measures.
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I really hope someone just stops using standard. What a shitty system.
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On January 11 2012 01:00 gwixter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 23:39 ferencziffra wrote:
Just ROFL. Even though the USA still uses a non-sensical system like the Imperial, what on earth makes anyone believe that it may be called "standard"?! It's not about where you live. Sure, if you live in the USA you are taught to use the Imperial system, for which among other things I pity Americans. But - how much exactly is one Foot? Or one Inch? How do you define it? What's your reference?
Besides being a decimal, i.e. mathematically logical, system, the Metric system has specific values for each of its units. E.g. 1 Metre = the length that light travels in vacuum for 1/299792458 of a second. Period. And so on. It's a specific value.
Of course I use Metric and I don't see the point labeling any products with another system in existence today. In any circumstance. 1 meter was originally defined as length of some platinum stick which is stored somewhere in Paris, IIRC. Only later it was redefined as some fraction of eatrh's meridian and later (more precisely) as distance that light travels in some time, but it still corresponds to length of that platinum stick so it is as "artificial" as feet or inch, so it can't be argument against imperial system
I believe the original kilogram item also weighs less than 1kg now, too.
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On January 11 2012 01:01 Faya wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 00:58 FADCoUltra wrote:
BTW, does europe really have "Royal With Cheese" instead of Quarter Pounder With Cheese? We do, mayonnaise with fries is the best, and im pretty sure you can't get beers into movie theatre now
They are called Quarter Pounders here in Sweden, despite noone knowing how much a quarter of a pound is
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On January 11 2012 01:15 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 01:00 gwixter wrote:On January 10 2012 23:39 ferencziffra wrote:
Just ROFL. Even though the USA still uses a non-sensical system like the Imperial, what on earth makes anyone believe that it may be called "standard"?! It's not about where you live. Sure, if you live in the USA you are taught to use the Imperial system, for which among other things I pity Americans. But - how much exactly is one Foot? Or one Inch? How do you define it? What's your reference?
Besides being a decimal, i.e. mathematically logical, system, the Metric system has specific values for each of its units. E.g. 1 Metre = the length that light travels in vacuum for 1/299792458 of a second. Period. And so on. It's a specific value.
Of course I use Metric and I don't see the point labeling any products with another system in existence today. In any circumstance. 1 meter was originally defined as length of some platinum stick which is stored somewhere in Paris, IIRC. Only later it was redefined as some fraction of eatrh's meridian and later (more precisely) as distance that light travels in some time, but it still corresponds to length of that platinum stick so it is as "artificial" as feet or inch, so it can't be argument against imperial system I believe the original kilogram item also weighs less than 1kg now, too. actually I corrected myself .. originally there was that fraction of meridian and then platinum bar ... so it's not that "artificial" as I thought ^_^
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On January 11 2012 00:58 FADCoUltra wrote:
BTW, does europe really have "Royal With Cheese" instead of Quarter Pounder With Cheese?
Edit: anyone who doesn't know this reference, do youself a favor, look it up and watch the moive.
Yup, I don't know how we call a whopper, though
e: btw: it's really a royal with cheese here in Germany.
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On January 11 2012 01:18 Catch]22 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 01:01 Faya wrote:On January 11 2012 00:58 FADCoUltra wrote:
BTW, does europe really have "Royal With Cheese" instead of Quarter Pounder With Cheese? We do, mayonnaise with fries is the best, and im pretty sure you can't get beers into movie theatre now They are called Quarter Pounders here in Sweden, despite noone knowing how much a quarter of a pound is
Yeah, same in Denmark. Quater pounder.
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Why no answer of "Both" they both have their uses and maybe eventually everything will be converted to one or the other but, it's not hard to use both.
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On January 10 2012 16:49 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 14:20 LegendaryZ wrote:On January 10 2012 14:17 KnT wrote:
1^-7 1^-7 1^-7
plz stop that!! :o It's 10^(-7) = 0.000 000 1.
1^(-7) = 1.
Sorry, just wanted to get that out, it bothered me. 
You can proceed discussing now, hfhf.
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"1. Standard goes more naturally with fractions - quarter of a pint, half foot, etc. Technically, you don't say half meter but rather 50 centimeters or 500 millimeters.
2. Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces. No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet."
I dont understand what you mean, maybe in America people dont say "half meter" but thats how people say it here. And if i want to buy a shot at a bar i order a 6cl shot, not a ounce(or what ever). But mybe you are talking about how it "should" be used?
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On January 10 2012 21:22 Biggun69 wrote:
The only time when it's better to use imperial is when describing dick size.
And your height.
I'm glad a mod changed the threads title, it really bothered me for some reason
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I was taught in both growing up, so now in my head I think of things as "around an inch an' a centimeter"
Thanks British school system, you're so great!
(Kill me)
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That is quite misleading as those different version are not "just copies" and frankly they are close enough. But even this last measure based on artifact will it seems soon end. Kilogram is now being redefined using Planck constant. After that there will be no need for IPK as there is now no need for the meter artifact.
And unlike the comic, SI actually succeeded in scientific field completely and in everyday life field there is no competition from imperial system, it is just slowly dying.
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