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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
January 10 2012 16:56 GMT
#1061
On January 11 2012 01:48 Rohan wrote:
I was taught in both growing up, so now in my head I think of things as "around an inch an' a centimeter"

Thanks British school system, you're so great!

(Kill me)

haha, I think we can all agree that a mix of the two is the least convenient option possible.
I'm 1m2feet22cm tall btw.
gondolin
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
France332 Posts
January 10 2012 16:57 GMT
#1062
On January 11 2012 01:15 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 01:00 gwixter wrote:
On January 10 2012 23:39 ferencziffra wrote:
Just ROFL. Even though the USA still uses a non-sensical system like the Imperial, what on earth makes anyone believe that it may be called "standard"?! It's not about where you live. Sure, if you live in the USA you are taught to use the Imperial system, for which among other things I pity Americans. But - how much exactly is one Foot? Or one Inch? How do you define it? What's your reference?

Besides being a decimal, i.e. mathematically logical, system, the Metric system has specific values for each of its units. E.g. 1 Metre = the length that light travels in vacuum for 1/299792458 of a second. Period. And so on. It's a specific value.

Of course I use Metric and I don't see the point labeling any products with another system in existence today. In any circumstance.

1 meter was originally defined as length of some platinum stick which is stored somewhere in Paris, IIRC. Only later it was redefined as some fraction of eatrh's meridian and later (more precisely) as distance that light travels in some time, but it still corresponds to length of that platinum stick
so it is as "artificial" as feet or inch, so it can't be argument against imperial system

I believe the original kilogram item also weighs less than 1kg now, too.


From what I remember the kilometre was supposed to be 1/40000 of the diameter of the earth. So around the french revolution, a pair of geographer traveled the world to mesure it. It's actually 40008km, but the precision is not that bad for the time it was first used (and it make the diameter easy to remember about). Of course nowadays we want a better precision so we define it in term of the light speed. Likewise the kilogram was defined so that 1m^3 of water weight 1000 kilograms. The *true* kilogram is defined as the weight of a sample keep in a museum in paris (Le bureau des poids et mesures, I should visit it somewhere) because the actual weight depends on the temperature of the water on so on. But this is not a good situation for modern precision requirements so some people are trying to count the number of atoms in a sample and use that to define the kilogram.
refmac_cys.cys
Profile Joined June 2010
United States177 Posts
January 10 2012 16:58 GMT
#1063
Please realize that there is a difference between US customary measure and Imperial measurements, most notably in measures of volume. If you were drinking and were given a US pint, when you had ordered an imperial pint, you'd be pretty pissed off. For the purposes of this discussion, it is important to distinguish between the two. Also, for an interesting note, both current Imperial and US Customary measures are defined as fractions or multiples of metric units. For example, the foot and inch are derived from the formal definition of a yard - .9144 meters.
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DawN883
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden558 Posts
January 10 2012 17:23 GMT
#1064
On December 09 2011 14:17 Lightswarm wrote:
standard is the metric system fyi


Yepp But people outside the US use imperial system to measure TV screens and such
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Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2107 Posts
January 10 2012 18:08 GMT
#1065
On January 11 2012 02:23 AceTenRyu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 14:17 Lightswarm wrote:
standard is the metric system fyi


Yepp But people outside the US use imperial system to measure TV screens and such

Yep TV screen size is measured in inches as a world standard.
So in conclusion to everything, it would be much easier if we all in the world used to the same system to measure what we want to measure but apparently we can't have it like that because of 1 superpower. It will stay like this but eventually the newer generation of americans will embrace the metric system and be able to use both
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FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
January 10 2012 18:13 GMT
#1066
I prefer imperial because it is much easier mathematically, and it just makes so much more sense intuitively. Why would anyone want to go through the pains of enduring multiples of ten?
HiTeK532
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada171 Posts
January 10 2012 18:19 GMT
#1067
I use a metric clock there's only 10 hours but 100 minutes per hour and 100 seconds per minute so it all works out.
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Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 18:22:21
January 10 2012 18:21 GMT
#1068
XS - XL for clothes, 30's for shoes, (which then differ from country to country), voltage and electrical plugs on walls differ, different chargers for cellphones, computers (even if they need the same power / voltage), inches for screen size, hectares for area sizes, tons for Mg (megagrams = 1 million grams or 1000 kg). Jebus christ get a grip on yourself civilization and humans in it.

At least car manufacturers have agreed to use an universal charger plug for all electric cars.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
January 10 2012 18:21 GMT
#1069
isn't the reason why USA still use imperial is because the commies(communist) use metric?
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CluEleSs_UK
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom583 Posts
January 10 2012 18:24 GMT
#1070
I use both for different things. Sizes/heights/lengths of random objects is inches, weight is kg.
"If it turns out he is leaving the ESL to focus on cooking crystal meth I'll agree that it is somewhat disgraceful, but I'll hold off judgement until then."
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
January 10 2012 18:30 GMT
#1071
Metric, but when I go to college I will be using Imperial much more (Architecture is in Feet & Inches T_T)
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 10 2012 21:04 GMT
#1072
On January 11 2012 03:19 HiTeK532 wrote:
I use a metric clock there's only 10 hours but 100 minutes per hour and 100 seconds per minute so it all works out.

is there only 1 day in a month for your calendar? what happens when it's .1 months in a year how does that work out?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 10 2012 21:08 GMT
#1073
On January 11 2012 03:21 jinorazi wrote:
isn't the reason why USA still use imperial is because the commies(communist) use metric?

it would be cost-prohibitive to use metric in our daily lives. you would have to change everything (road signs, markers, labels, instruction manuals, etc.).

US uses metric where it counts though (physics, chemistry and other science classes).
Sphen5117
Profile Joined September 2011
United States413 Posts
January 10 2012 21:15 GMT
#1074
Old school standard for the win. Furloughs and leagues and shit.



Ok, really I just measure everything with one unit: BTU's.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11811 Posts
January 10 2012 21:17 GMT
#1075
On January 11 2012 06:04 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 03:19 HiTeK532 wrote:
I use a metric clock there's only 10 hours but 100 minutes per hour and 100 seconds per minute so it all works out.

is there only 1 day in a month for your calendar? what happens when it's .1 months in a year how does that work out?


You pretty much can't change the amount of days in a year, since those occur naturally. You could use a different way to measure time beyond days, but i don't really see a use in that. Until we somehow spread further then earth, a day and a year a pretty obvious and practical things to measure time in. These make some sense.

I however don't necessarily think that a year needs to be an important unit of measurement (it is still useful, but it does not need to be especially prominent). Months and weeks are quite stupid. I think the simplest natural way would be to use a day as a standard unit, and divide that up into smaller, more useful parts for smaller amounts of time, and talk about 10, 50, 200 days when you need a longer amount of time. You can still use a year for seasons and so on, but i don't really think i needs to be prominent in other stuff that has no relation to weather like elections.

Of course, you could use some other basic unit, but as a matter of fact our lives are naturally divided into days, and to a lesser extent years.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 00:07:19
January 11 2012 00:06 GMT
#1076
nvm
c0rn1
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany146 Posts
January 11 2012 02:22 GMT
#1077
On January 11 2012 03:13 FallDownMarigold wrote:
I prefer imperial because it is much easier mathematically, and it just makes so much more sense intuitively. Why would anyone want to go through the pains of enduring multiples of ten?


If you say so it must be so, eh?
Then I please you to calculate the number of water molecules weighing 1 pound since it's easier in the imperial system. Or the approximate diameter of an atom in inches?
Maybe you want to tell me how much mass the sun has in pounds? Or how much volume a pinte is in inches?

Or maybe it is easier to calculate the number of molecules weighing 1 kg knowing that hydrogen weighs ~1g/mol and oxygen ~16g/mol? 1 mol = 6,022*10^23
The approximate diameter of an atom is 1 Angström 10^(-10)m.
Or the sun has app. 2x 10^30kg mass. Or 1 litre is 1 dm³ or 10x10x10cm in volume.
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. " (Albert Einstein)
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
January 11 2012 02:32 GMT
#1078
I'm pretty happy that someone finally got around to changing the title.
It was very annoying. "Metric or Standard" . . lol standard . . . does anyone actually refer to it as standard? Like is that a historical term for it or something?
powerade = dragoon blood
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
January 11 2012 02:59 GMT
#1079
Btw, what is the metric measure of time?
Basing on history and structure, Id guess the hour system is imperial since 50 sec = 1 min, 60 min = 1 hr, 24 hr = 1 day, 7 days = 1 wk, 28/29/30/31 days = 1 month,12 mo = 1 year?

I wonder how the metric system will handle with this?
100 mins to 1 hr? Has there been any suggestion to metricize time?
BSOD
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
January 11 2012 03:03 GMT
#1080
Your "advantages for standard" aren't true

If you look next to someone's user name you can find their country, which should intuitively tell you which system they use.
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