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This is plain stupid. It sickens me...
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On November 23 2011 22:58 JesusOurSaviour wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2011 22:51 Vorenius wrote:On November 23 2011 22:42 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 23 2011 22:34 CaptainCrush wrote:On November 23 2011 22:14 Zvek wrote:
What is disgusting is all the posters here on TL taking the "moral high ground".
Really, what do we/you know about culture/justice? I say they can handle on their own. Our disgust over it, no matter what it is, is a product of ignorance, or worse unchecked elitism. This cultural difference occur everywhere, why should Afganistan be singled out? In the USA, you can divorce, which is totally inhumane and completely idiotic for the Arabs. Not to mention all the wars the US has started in the name of "democracy". In some tribes in Africa, the boys are introduced to adulthood by making them have sex with their sisters, and drink the semen of older men.
Let them solve their "situation/problem". Keep your judgment to yourself. In all the time I have spent browsing team liquid, this is one of the most uneducated and ridiculously WRONG posts I have seen. Wrong on so many places that I dont even know where to start....You may actually be part of the problem if you think this is just an example of a cultural difference. So then CaptainCrush, what is your solution? Tell those countries Shari'a laws are wrong? Good luck. Good luck as a Dhimmi who has somehow subverted his position in their ideal islamic society and oppressed the Righteous muslims (for muslims see white people as a collective, as an entire Christian kingdom which has subjugated the muslim world for a long time). You most likely are not Christian (95% of TL-ers are not bible believing Christians). But they see you as one. And they think you're just dirt. You will be destroyed in the end. Muslims are taught from young that Islam and Allah are the truth. Everything else is false, lesser and demonic. Allah will destroy all the pigs (Jews and ChristiansWhite people) in the end. : )) Welcome to Islam You could substitute 'muslim' for 'christian' and then 'white people' for 'non-christian' and have an equally objective descreption of bible believing christians. Yes for the destruction/judgement part, no for everything else. God wants all to come to repentance. And the God of this universe is not some detached God who doesn't care about anything (islamic Allah) but one who came to earth to be ridiculed by those who sinned against Him, scourged, and pay for our sins on the cross. One whose name is Love. One who created the world in love and made us in His image.
That might be how you interpret Christianity, but it's definitly an image that is pretty much impossible to recognize looking at the actions of the Vatican (the main christian authority) the last thousand years. From anything from Crusades against infidels, the burning of countless women through the inquisition to claiming that condoms don't protect against HIV and it's a sin to use them. I'm sure that makes sense if you believe in superstition and magic, but I'm afraid I don't. I haven't since I was 8.
I'm not gonna argue which is worse, Islam or Christianity, but my point is that the world would be a better place without either.
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I am Afghan, and in afghanistan the war left no space for islam... Humanity shows its real face when the thin veil of civilization dissapears. This was rather a judical case involved with bribes and wrong understanding of honor than islam. But ive seen comments like "nuke them all" here, and some people apparently think that despite saying these horrible things, they are somehow on a higher moral ground. Just look how invadive some people s nature is. A rape and unjust happens thousands of kilometers away and has no other effect than to disgust and make themselfs feel better, so they demand nukes to kill several millions.
No, you are not.
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The amount of stupid is astounding. Hope someone kills the bastard that did this to her.
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
On November 23 2011 23:08 W.O.L.F.Y. wrote:
I am Afghan, and in afghanistan the war left no space for islam... Humanity shows its real face when the thin veil of civilization dissapears. This was rather a judical case involved with bribes and wrong understanding of honor than islam. But ive seen comments like "nuke them all" here, and some people apparently think that despite saying these horrible things, they are somehow on a higher moral ground. Just look how invadive some people s nature is. A rape and unjust happens thousands of kilometers away and has no other effect than to disgust and make themselfs feel better, so they demand nukes to kill several millions.
No, you are not.
You really should learn to ignore comments like those. Obviously a few people are overreacting by the shocking nature of this case. They don't really wish the death of millions of afghans.
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United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On November 23 2011 23:07 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2011 22:58 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 23 2011 22:51 Vorenius wrote:On November 23 2011 22:42 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 23 2011 22:34 CaptainCrush wrote:On November 23 2011 22:14 Zvek wrote:
What is disgusting is all the posters here on TL taking the "moral high ground".
Really, what do we/you know about culture/justice? I say they can handle on their own. Our disgust over it, no matter what it is, is a product of ignorance, or worse unchecked elitism. This cultural difference occur everywhere, why should Afganistan be singled out? In the USA, you can divorce, which is totally inhumane and completely idiotic for the Arabs. Not to mention all the wars the US has started in the name of "democracy". In some tribes in Africa, the boys are introduced to adulthood by making them have sex with their sisters, and drink the semen of older men.
Let them solve their "situation/problem". Keep your judgment to yourself. In all the time I have spent browsing team liquid, this is one of the most uneducated and ridiculously WRONG posts I have seen. Wrong on so many places that I dont even know where to start....You may actually be part of the problem if you think this is just an example of a cultural difference. So then CaptainCrush, what is your solution? Tell those countries Shari'a laws are wrong? Good luck. Good luck as a Dhimmi who has somehow subverted his position in their ideal islamic society and oppressed the Righteous muslims (for muslims see white people as a collective, as an entire Christian kingdom which has subjugated the muslim world for a long time). You most likely are not Christian (95% of TL-ers are not bible believing Christians). But they see you as one. And they think you're just dirt. You will be destroyed in the end. Muslims are taught from young that Islam and Allah are the truth. Everything else is false, lesser and demonic. Allah will destroy all the pigs (Jews and ChristiansWhite people) in the end. : )) Welcome to Islam You could substitute 'muslim' for 'christian' and then 'white people' for 'non-christian' and have an equally objective descreption of bible believing christians. Yes for the destruction/judgement part, no for everything else. God wants all to come to repentance. And the God of this universe is not some detached God who doesn't care about anything (islamic Allah) but one who came to earth to be ridiculed by those who sinned against Him, scourged, and pay for our sins on the cross. One whose name is Love. One who created the world in love and made us in His image. That might be how you interpret Christianity, but it's definitly an image that is pretty much impossible to recognize looking at the actions of the Vatican (the main christian authority) the last thousand years. From anything from Crusades against infidels, the burning of countless women through the inquisition to claiming that condoms don't protect against HIV and it's a sin to use them. I'm sure that makes sense if you believe in superstition and magic, but I'm afraid I don't. I haven't since I was 8. I'm not gonna argue which is worse, Islam or Christianity, but my point is that the world would be a better place without either. Let me ask you my friend 3 questions:
1. Have you known for yourself by reading the gospels, Jesus the God-man who came to save us?
2.Would the Jesus of the Gospels (God Himself come to earth) be happy with the Catholic church? (Or any church which is so filled with hate, bigotry, corruption and godlessness)
3. Have you met a genuine follower of Jesus Christ and seen the love of Jesus in him? (I know Sweden is currently <1% Bible-believing/practicing Christian)
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On November 23 2011 23:01 JesusOurSaviour wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2011 22:54 Kerm wrote:On November 23 2011 22:42 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 23 2011 22:34 CaptainCrush wrote:On November 23 2011 22:14 Zvek wrote:
What is disgusting is all the posters here on TL taking the "moral high ground".
Really, what do we/you know about culture/justice? I say they can handle on their own. Our disgust over it, no matter what it is, is a product of ignorance, or worse unchecked elitism. This cultural difference occur everywhere, why should Afganistan be singled out? In the USA, you can divorce, which is totally inhumane and completely idiotic for the Arabs. Not to mention all the wars the US has started in the name of "democracy". In some tribes in Africa, the boys are introduced to adulthood by making them have sex with their sisters, and drink the semen of older men.
Let them solve their "situation/problem". Keep your judgment to yourself. In all the time I have spent browsing team liquid, this is one of the most uneducated and ridiculously WRONG posts I have seen. Wrong on so many places that I dont even know where to start....You may actually be part of the problem if you think this is just an example of a cultural difference. So then CaptainCrush, what is your solution? Tell those countries Shari'a laws are wrong? Good luck. Good luck as a Dhimmi who has somehow subverted his position in their ideal islamic society and oppressed the Righteous muslims (for muslims see white people as a collective, as an entire Christian kingdom which has subjugated the muslim world for a long time). You most likely are not Christian (95% of TL-ers are not bible believing Christians). But they see you as one. And they think you're just dirt. You will be destroyed in the end. Muslims are taught from young that Islam and Allah are the truth. Everything else is false, lesser and demonic. Allah will destroy all the pigs (Jews and ChristiansWhite people) in the end. : )) Welcome to Islam On November 23 2011 22:44 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 23 2011 22:31 TheLOLas wrote:
wow...what a way to start a morning. I feel bad for this girl. She had absolutely no control in the situation. Surely there is some way to persecute the rapist. Welcome to Islam (when implemented correctly according to the Hadiths and Qu'ran. Well my own kid's nurse is actually muslim. Like going to the mosque and all. I don't exactly feel like she or her family has been taught from young that i'm "just dirt". Your ignorance is sickening. Says the French man whose country is.... crumbling? with immigration problems? Says Europe which will accuse ANYONE who speaks against the evils of Islam and label them "islamophobe"? There are muslims and there are muslims. There are muslims like ones in Iran who simply don't care about any of it but see it as culture. Then there are wahhabi's and those who correctly interpret the qu'ran. There are liberal muslims just as there are liberal Christians. I must clarify that I am referring to the ones who follow the qu'ran and it's hadiths to the word. Not the liberal muslims who think it's just all culture and eeeeh haaaaaa whatever.
My friend, if you think there is an allpowerfull creationist entity in this infinite universe that actually cares about the random life form that is humans, you are the ignorant one and attribute way too much importance to the human race. To make an analogy (although not a great one) it's like bacteria having a religion thinking humans are gods that govern their lives and made up illogical rules for them to follow. (assuming bacteria were an intelligent life form). My thoughts about religion aside, looks like some zones of the earth are still in the dark ages. Convicting a raped woman of adultery and burning a man who says the earth is round are not that far apart on the moral vector when religion is involved.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37063 Posts
How is this situation POSSIBLY fair? She was freaking raped..... where's the justice?!
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This is disgusting. I don't usually generalize people but seriously, what kind of stupid, irrational and outdated culture is so brainless as to kill a family member for being raped. There is a certain, wondrous thing called common sense and I previously thought that all humans had it.
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Well, we Europeans also had to go through the middle ages and it's not like there was justice around every corner, especially with the church being as powerful as it once was, even more powerful than kings and kingdoms.
So it is only natural, that they also have to go through such a process. The only difference between them and us a few hundred years ago is that they have guns instead of swords and shields.
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On November 23 2011 23:01 JesusOurSaviour wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2011 22:54 Kerm wrote:On November 23 2011 22:42 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 23 2011 22:34 CaptainCrush wrote:On November 23 2011 22:14 Zvek wrote:
What is disgusting is all the posters here on TL taking the "moral high ground".
Really, what do we/you know about culture/justice? I say they can handle on their own. Our disgust over it, no matter what it is, is a product of ignorance, or worse unchecked elitism. This cultural difference occur everywhere, why should Afganistan be singled out? In the USA, you can divorce, which is totally inhumane and completely idiotic for the Arabs. Not to mention all the wars the US has started in the name of "democracy". In some tribes in Africa, the boys are introduced to adulthood by making them have sex with their sisters, and drink the semen of older men.
Let them solve their "situation/problem". Keep your judgment to yourself. In all the time I have spent browsing team liquid, this is one of the most uneducated and ridiculously WRONG posts I have seen. Wrong on so many places that I dont even know where to start....You may actually be part of the problem if you think this is just an example of a cultural difference. So then CaptainCrush, what is your solution? Tell those countries Shari'a laws are wrong? Good luck. Good luck as a Dhimmi who has somehow subverted his position in their ideal islamic society and oppressed the Righteous muslims (for muslims see white people as a collective, as an entire Christian kingdom which has subjugated the muslim world for a long time). You most likely are not Christian (95% of TL-ers are not bible believing Christians). But they see you as one. And they think you're just dirt. You will be destroyed in the end. Muslims are taught from young that Islam and Allah are the truth. Everything else is false, lesser and demonic. Allah will destroy all the pigs (Jews and ChristiansWhite people) in the end. : )) Welcome to Islam On November 23 2011 22:44 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 23 2011 22:31 TheLOLas wrote:
wow...what a way to start a morning. I feel bad for this girl. She had absolutely no control in the situation. Surely there is some way to persecute the rapist. Welcome to Islam (when implemented correctly according to the Hadiths and Qu'ran. Well my own kid's nurse is actually muslim. Like going to the mosque and all. I don't exactly feel like she or her family has been taught from young that i'm "just dirt". Your ignorance is sickening. Says the French man whose country is.... crumbling? with immigration problems? Says Europe which will accuse ANYONE who speaks against the evils of Islam and label them "islamophobe"? There are muslims and there are muslims. There are muslims like ones in Iran who simply don't care about any of it but see it as culture. Then there are wahhabi's and those who correctly interpret the qu'ran. There are liberal muslims just as there are liberal Christians. I must clarify that I am referring to the ones who follow the qu'ran and it's hadiths to the word. Not the liberal muslims who think it's just all culture and eeeeh haaaaaa whatever.
Ok I get it, you're just a troll actually.
What is the point of insulting my country, and then agreeing with my opinion ?
Yes you should clarify and make a difference between "muslims" and "islamist".
Go find an english translation for the word "amalgame".
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On November 23 2011 23:14 JesusOurSaviour wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2011 23:07 Vorenius wrote:On November 23 2011 22:58 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 23 2011 22:51 Vorenius wrote:On November 23 2011 22:42 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 23 2011 22:34 CaptainCrush wrote:On November 23 2011 22:14 Zvek wrote:
What is disgusting is all the posters here on TL taking the "moral high ground".
Really, what do we/you know about culture/justice? I say they can handle on their own. Our disgust over it, no matter what it is, is a product of ignorance, or worse unchecked elitism. This cultural difference occur everywhere, why should Afganistan be singled out? In the USA, you can divorce, which is totally inhumane and completely idiotic for the Arabs. Not to mention all the wars the US has started in the name of "democracy". In some tribes in Africa, the boys are introduced to adulthood by making them have sex with their sisters, and drink the semen of older men.
Let them solve their "situation/problem". Keep your judgment to yourself. In all the time I have spent browsing team liquid, this is one of the most uneducated and ridiculously WRONG posts I have seen. Wrong on so many places that I dont even know where to start....You may actually be part of the problem if you think this is just an example of a cultural difference. So then CaptainCrush, what is your solution? Tell those countries Shari'a laws are wrong? Good luck. Good luck as a Dhimmi who has somehow subverted his position in their ideal islamic society and oppressed the Righteous muslims (for muslims see white people as a collective, as an entire Christian kingdom which has subjugated the muslim world for a long time). You most likely are not Christian (95% of TL-ers are not bible believing Christians). But they see you as one. And they think you're just dirt. You will be destroyed in the end. Muslims are taught from young that Islam and Allah are the truth. Everything else is false, lesser and demonic. Allah will destroy all the pigs (Jews and ChristiansWhite people) in the end. : )) Welcome to Islam You could substitute 'muslim' for 'christian' and then 'white people' for 'non-christian' and have an equally objective descreption of bible believing christians. Yes for the destruction/judgement part, no for everything else. God wants all to come to repentance. And the God of this universe is not some detached God who doesn't care about anything (islamic Allah) but one who came to earth to be ridiculed by those who sinned against Him, scourged, and pay for our sins on the cross. One whose name is Love. One who created the world in love and made us in His image. That might be how you interpret Christianity, but it's definitly an image that is pretty much impossible to recognize looking at the actions of the Vatican (the main christian authority) the last thousand years. From anything from Crusades against infidels, the burning of countless women through the inquisition to claiming that condoms don't protect against HIV and it's a sin to use them. I'm sure that makes sense if you believe in superstition and magic, but I'm afraid I don't. I haven't since I was 8. I'm not gonna argue which is worse, Islam or Christianity, but my point is that the world would be a better place without either. Let me ask you my friend 3 questions: 1. Have you known for yourself by reading the gospels, Jesus the God-man who came to save us? 2.Would the Jesus of the Gospels (God Himself come to earth) be happy with the Catholic church? (Or any church which is so filled with hate, bigotry, corruption and godlessness) 3. Have you met a genuine follower of Jesus Christ and seen the love of Jesus in him? (I know Sweden is currently <1% Bible-believing/practicing Christian) 1) Reading and studying religious texts is part of the general education of everyone in Denmark, so yes I have.
2) not for me to say, but probably not
3)Yes, they knock on my door occasionally but usually leave when I explain I don't believe in magic
My question for you would then be, why clang on to the 'Christian' tag?
The basic Christian message has a lot to offer and the world would probably be a better place if more people lived by that. But then just call it a philosophy. Just say that you are a nice person or a friendly and loving person. If you insist those teachings comes directly from god you are only setting yourself up for all kinds of unnecesary dificulties. Not to mention that from the belief in an omnipotent god follows the fact that he must be the guy personally killing thousands in Tsunamies when he's not busy giving aids to babies in Africa. Also next time you see him tell him "fuck you" from me for inventing the flu virus. That shit gets me every year.
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Wonderful culture they got there, I feel so enriched.
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My brain went on strike while reading this.
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Where in the world could this be? Oh it's Afghanistan, what a massive surprise that would be.
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lol islam
lol
User was warned for this post
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United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On November 23 2011 23:28 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2011 23:14 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 23 2011 23:07 Vorenius wrote:On November 23 2011 22:58 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 23 2011 22:51 Vorenius wrote:On November 23 2011 22:42 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 23 2011 22:34 CaptainCrush wrote:On November 23 2011 22:14 Zvek wrote:
What is disgusting is all the posters here on TL taking the "moral high ground".
Really, what do we/you know about culture/justice? I say they can handle on their own. Our disgust over it, no matter what it is, is a product of ignorance, or worse unchecked elitism. This cultural difference occur everywhere, why should Afganistan be singled out? In the USA, you can divorce, which is totally inhumane and completely idiotic for the Arabs. Not to mention all the wars the US has started in the name of "democracy". In some tribes in Africa, the boys are introduced to adulthood by making them have sex with their sisters, and drink the semen of older men.
Let them solve their "situation/problem". Keep your judgment to yourself. In all the time I have spent browsing team liquid, this is one of the most uneducated and ridiculously WRONG posts I have seen. Wrong on so many places that I dont even know where to start....You may actually be part of the problem if you think this is just an example of a cultural difference. So then CaptainCrush, what is your solution? Tell those countries Shari'a laws are wrong? Good luck. Good luck as a Dhimmi who has somehow subverted his position in their ideal islamic society and oppressed the Righteous muslims (for muslims see white people as a collective, as an entire Christian kingdom which has subjugated the muslim world for a long time). You most likely are not Christian (95% of TL-ers are not bible believing Christians). But they see you as one. And they think you're just dirt. You will be destroyed in the end. Muslims are taught from young that Islam and Allah are the truth. Everything else is false, lesser and demonic. Allah will destroy all the pigs (Jews and ChristiansWhite people) in the end. : )) Welcome to Islam You could substitute 'muslim' for 'christian' and then 'white people' for 'non-christian' and have an equally objective descreption of bible believing christians. Yes for the destruction/judgement part, no for everything else. God wants all to come to repentance. And the God of this universe is not some detached God who doesn't care about anything (islamic Allah) but one who came to earth to be ridiculed by those who sinned against Him, scourged, and pay for our sins on the cross. One whose name is Love. One who created the world in love and made us in His image. That might be how you interpret Christianity, but it's definitly an image that is pretty much impossible to recognize looking at the actions of the Vatican (the main christian authority) the last thousand years. From anything from Crusades against infidels, the burning of countless women through the inquisition to claiming that condoms don't protect against HIV and it's a sin to use them. I'm sure that makes sense if you believe in superstition and magic, but I'm afraid I don't. I haven't since I was 8. I'm not gonna argue which is worse, Islam or Christianity, but my point is that the world would be a better place without either. Let me ask you my friend 3 questions: 1. Have you known for yourself by reading the gospels, Jesus the God-man who came to save us? 2.Would the Jesus of the Gospels (God Himself come to earth) be happy with the Catholic church? (Or any church which is so filled with hate, bigotry, corruption and godlessness) 3. Have you met a genuine follower of Jesus Christ and seen the love of Jesus in him? (I know Sweden is currently <1% Bible-believing/practicing Christian) 1) Reading and studying religious texts is part of the general education of everyone in Denmark, so yes I have. 2) not for me to say, but probably not 3)Yes, they knock on my door occasionally but usually leave when I explain I don't believe in magic My question for you would then be, why clang on to the 'Christian' tag? The basic Christian message has a lot to offer and the world would probably be a better place if more people lived by that. But then just call it a philosophy. Just say that you are a nice person or a friendly and loving person. If you insist those teachings comes directly from god you are only setting yourself up for all kinds of unnecesary dificulties. Not to mention that from the belief in an omnipotent god follows the fact that he must be the guy personally killing thousands in Tsunamies when he's not busy giving aids to babies in Africa. Also next time you see him tell him "fuck you" from me for inventing the flu virus. That shit gets me every year. Mandatory education of religious texts often puts people off religion. Because they do-not-teach-relationship-with-God and depravity of man. If they truly taught you both of those central themes of God's truth (relationship with God <3 + depravity of man) and actually tried to answer the big questions students ask (i.e. Why is there suffering? What is the devil? Why the devil? Why the fall? Why the cross?), then you guys at least would be informed unbelievers. Unfortunately, most people are unbelievers and uninformed. : (((((((
I can't say "F!@# you" to God for you. You need to say that yourself. And then you see his response to you is not punishment as one expects, but love and forgiveness. He is your Father and He cares for you more than you can ever know. It is sad people have distorted God so much when Jesus was all about loving the lost and punishing those who refuse to admit their sin.
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On November 23 2011 23:36 JesusOurSaviour wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2011 23:28 Vorenius wrote:On November 23 2011 23:14 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 23 2011 23:07 Vorenius wrote:On November 23 2011 22:58 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 23 2011 22:51 Vorenius wrote:On November 23 2011 22:42 JesusOurSaviour wrote:On November 23 2011 22:34 CaptainCrush wrote:On November 23 2011 22:14 Zvek wrote:
What is disgusting is all the posters here on TL taking the "moral high ground".
Really, what do we/you know about culture/justice? I say they can handle on their own. Our disgust over it, no matter what it is, is a product of ignorance, or worse unchecked elitism. This cultural difference occur everywhere, why should Afganistan be singled out? In the USA, you can divorce, which is totally inhumane and completely idiotic for the Arabs. Not to mention all the wars the US has started in the name of "democracy". In some tribes in Africa, the boys are introduced to adulthood by making them have sex with their sisters, and drink the semen of older men.
Let them solve their "situation/problem". Keep your judgment to yourself. In all the time I have spent browsing team liquid, this is one of the most uneducated and ridiculously WRONG posts I have seen. Wrong on so many places that I dont even know where to start....You may actually be part of the problem if you think this is just an example of a cultural difference. So then CaptainCrush, what is your solution? Tell those countries Shari'a laws are wrong? Good luck. Good luck as a Dhimmi who has somehow subverted his position in their ideal islamic society and oppressed the Righteous muslims (for muslims see white people as a collective, as an entire Christian kingdom which has subjugated the muslim world for a long time). You most likely are not Christian (95% of TL-ers are not bible believing Christians). But they see you as one. And they think you're just dirt. You will be destroyed in the end. Muslims are taught from young that Islam and Allah are the truth. Everything else is false, lesser and demonic. Allah will destroy all the pigs (Jews and ChristiansWhite people) in the end. : )) Welcome to Islam You could substitute 'muslim' for 'christian' and then 'white people' for 'non-christian' and have an equally objective descreption of bible believing christians. Yes for the destruction/judgement part, no for everything else. God wants all to come to repentance. And the God of this universe is not some detached God who doesn't care about anything (islamic Allah) but one who came to earth to be ridiculed by those who sinned against Him, scourged, and pay for our sins on the cross. One whose name is Love. One who created the world in love and made us in His image. That might be how you interpret Christianity, but it's definitly an image that is pretty much impossible to recognize looking at the actions of the Vatican (the main christian authority) the last thousand years. From anything from Crusades against infidels, the burning of countless women through the inquisition to claiming that condoms don't protect against HIV and it's a sin to use them. I'm sure that makes sense if you believe in superstition and magic, but I'm afraid I don't. I haven't since I was 8. I'm not gonna argue which is worse, Islam or Christianity, but my point is that the world would be a better place without either. Let me ask you my friend 3 questions: 1. Have you known for yourself by reading the gospels, Jesus the God-man who came to save us? 2.Would the Jesus of the Gospels (God Himself come to earth) be happy with the Catholic church? (Or any church which is so filled with hate, bigotry, corruption and godlessness) 3. Have you met a genuine follower of Jesus Christ and seen the love of Jesus in him? (I know Sweden is currently <1% Bible-believing/practicing Christian) 1) Reading and studying religious texts is part of the general education of everyone in Denmark, so yes I have. 2) not for me to say, but probably not 3)Yes, they knock on my door occasionally but usually leave when I explain I don't believe in magic My question for you would then be, why clang on to the 'Christian' tag? The basic Christian message has a lot to offer and the world would probably be a better place if more people lived by that. But then just call it a philosophy. Just say that you are a nice person or a friendly and loving person. If you insist those teachings comes directly from god you are only setting yourself up for all kinds of unnecesary dificulties. Not to mention that from the belief in an omnipotent god follows the fact that he must be the guy personally killing thousands in Tsunamies when he's not busy giving aids to babies in Africa. Also next time you see him tell him "fuck you" from me for inventing the flu virus. That shit gets me every year. Mandatory education of religious texts often puts people off religion. Because they do-not-teach-relationship-with-God and depravity of man. If they truly taught you both of those central themes of God's truth (relationship with God <3 + depravity of man) and actually tried to answer the big questions students ask (i.e. Why is there suffering? What is the devil? Why the devil? Why the fall? Why the cross?), then you guys at least would be informed unbelievers. Unfortunately, most people are unbelievers and uninformed. : ((((((( I can't say "F!@# you" to God for you. You need to say that yourself. And then you see his response to you is not punishment as one expects, but love and forgiveness. He is your Father and He cares for you more than you can ever know. It is sad people have distorted God so much when Jesus was all about loving the lost and punishing those who refuse to admit their sin.
Haha.
and revelations is such a kind story of love, compassion, and forgiveness
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Religion does nothing but ruin the world.
Maybe one day we will be without it.
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On November 23 2011 20:29 mizU wrote:Show nested quote +Kabul (CNN) -- The ordeal of Gulnaz did not simply begin and end with the physical attack of her rape. The rape began a years-long nightmare of further pain, culminating in an awful choice she must now make.
Even two years later, Gulnaz remembers the smell and state of her rapist's clothes when he came into the house when her mother left for a brief visit to the hospital.
"He had filthy clothes on as he does metal and construction work. When my mother went out, he came into my house and he closed doors and windows. I started screaming, but he shut me up by putting his hands on my mouth," she said.
The rapist was her cousin's husband.
After the attack, she hid what happened as long as she could. But soon she began vomiting in the mornings and showing signs of pregnancy. It was her attacker's child.
In Afghanistan, this brought her not sympathy, but prosecution. Aged just 19, she was found guilty by the courts of sex outside of marriage -- adultery -- and sentenced to twelve years in jail.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/22/world/asia/afghanistan-rape/index.html?hpt=hp_c2If you read on, the article goes to say that if she gets out of jail by marrying her rapist, she will be in danger from her attacker's family because of their "shame". I don't even... Apparently she had brought great shame by commiting adultery when she was raped and impregnated... I guess it shows how much rights women have in Afghanistan. Should she stay in jail to be safe? What should happen to her daughter?
There are several prevalent religions in the states that share these exact same ideas.
Its not so far away from home
Im not being funny but shuoldn't someone posting some religious bs in a thread like this get an autoban on moral grounds?
If they can reject reason on the grounds of faith then they are supporting irrational stupid laws by extension of their own beliefs - which is pretty evil even if tacitly so.
JesusOurSaviour
MAN is not depraved (how can someone who understands god be so blasphemous to describe his creation with an idea constructed by man?)... man is a being that get taught things. the depraved are those that teach man that logic and reason are not ways of understanding the world. Rather the word of some authority is what you shuold take as the way to live your life and you are not to question it - if you do then you are not being faithful. Simply put it is stating obey.
The depraved are those people that teach man to not think.
you are talking about informed and uninformed ... then you talk about his response ... how can something that can categorically be said to be impossible to exist or have any effect on this world in any way shape or form (even if there is a god this is true - yes if there is a god then he still doesn't exist) by its very definition have a RESPONSE? Are you really that stupid?
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