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LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
November 25 2011 21:40 GMT
#401
The only way to be convicted of adultery or fornication in the original sharia law is if four proven people witnessed the act of penetration or if the person came forth his/herself and confessed. So at Prophet Muhammad's time, you'd only get convicted if you came out and said so directly to a court (because people weren't having sex in front of an audience). Basically, it was your own business. If a child came from it, you still didn't have evidence that the sex was consensual. Rape was punished with no blame on the victim.

Blaming the victim or cases like this are a cultural result. In the case of Afghanistan, what's happening now is 10x less harsh than what was going on 10 years ago under Taliban. Yes, it's horrible, but you can't expect a people who lived for so long under the Taliban to be that socially developed. Sadly, this is technically progress for them.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 21:52:31
November 30 2011 21:32 GMT
#402
On November 26 2011 06:40 LittleAtari wrote:
The only way to be convicted of adultery or fornication in the original sharia law is if four proven people witnessed the act of penetration or if the person came forth his/herself and confessed. So at Prophet Muhammad's time, you'd only get convicted if you came out and said so directly to a court (because people weren't having sex in front of an audience). Basically, it was your own business. If a child came from it, you still didn't have evidence that the sex was consensual. Rape was punished with no blame on the victim.

Blaming the victim or cases like this are a cultural result. In the case of Afghanistan, what's happening now is 10x less harsh than what was going on 10 years ago under Taliban. Yes, it's horrible, but you can't expect a people who lived for so long under the Taliban to be that socially developed. Sadly, this is technically progress for them.


Well, the Taliban follows a 'strict' interpretations of the Coran and sharia law. You can't just come and pretend that what happened to that poor girl has no connection to religious fundamentalism and shamelessly attribute it to cultural differences.
NekoFlandre
Profile Joined March 2011
United States497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 03:54:58
December 02 2011 03:54 GMT
#403
Update:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/01/hamid-karzai-afghanistan_n_1123656.html?icid=maing-grid10|htmlws-sb-bb|dl7|sec1_lnk2|117100

Seems that she was released from jail, under one condition. Still reading the article.


-Edit: She agreed to marry him...
Kitty Flandre....even more scary..
-JokeR
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada9 Posts
December 02 2011 04:02 GMT
#404
This is disgusting.
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
December 02 2011 04:05 GMT
#405
Wack country with no regard for human rights. Why do we "help" over there? This is the government we've backed?
twitch.tv/duttroach
pindleskin
Profile Joined January 2008
New Zealand199 Posts
December 02 2011 04:34 GMT
#406
On December 02 2011 13:05 dUTtrOACh wrote:
Wack country with no regard for human rights. Why do we "help" over there? This is the government we've backed?

Huh? help ?? What has Cadana and America done to actually help over there haha.
NekoFlandre
Profile Joined March 2011
United States497 Posts
December 02 2011 04:37 GMT
#407
Well, at least she isn't going to be in jail for 12 years. Even if she is kinda f-ed over now. As for help? Oh, I honestly don't know
Kitty Flandre....even more scary..
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
December 02 2011 04:50 GMT
#408
So instead of jail, she agrees to marry her rapist with the prospects of being raped for the rest of her life... hmm
Dr. Strange
Profile Joined October 2011
Slovakia25 Posts
December 02 2011 05:27 GMT
#409
Fucking sick. I wonder if this kind of thing is wide in Afganistan and in the Islam countries. Real fucking sick.
Maxtor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom273 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 16:40:57
December 02 2011 16:38 GMT
#410
Well it appears she has accepted the alternative and decided to marry her rapist, I'm unable to express how shocked i am to read that the president intervened, only to provide them with mediation.

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/01/afghan-woman-freed-marry-rapist?INTCMP=SRCH
mads
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada90 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 16:44:57
December 02 2011 16:41 GMT
#411
On December 01 2011 06:32 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 06:40 LittleAtari wrote:
The only way to be convicted of adultery or fornication in the original sharia law is if four proven people witnessed the act of penetration or if the person came forth his/herself and confessed. So at Prophet Muhammad's time, you'd only get convicted if you came out and said so directly to a court (because people weren't having sex in front of an audience). Basically, it was your own business. If a child came from it, you still didn't have evidence that the sex was consensual. Rape was punished with no blame on the victim.

Blaming the victim or cases like this are a cultural result. In the case of Afghanistan, what's happening now is 10x less harsh than what was going on 10 years ago under Taliban. Yes, it's horrible, but you can't expect a people who lived for so long under the Taliban to be that socially developed. Sadly, this is technically progress for them.


Well, the Taliban follows a 'strict' interpretations of the Coran and sharia law. You can't just come and pretend that what happened to that poor girl has no connection to religious fundamentalism and shamelessly attribute it to cultural differences.



Why not exactly? It's not like he's denying the religious connection. What he's saying is that the interpretation has been skewed by the 'cultural differences'.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 21:39:33
December 02 2011 21:31 GMT
#412
looks like she was pardoned and may not be marrying her attacker. lets hope this is accurate.

Afghanistan has pardoned a woman who was raped by a family member but then jailed for adultery, a statement from the presidential palace has said, in a case that highlights deep concerns about women's rights in the country.

It remained unclear whether the 21-year-old-woman, known as Gulnaz, would still have to marry the man who attacked her, her cousin's husband, after an earlier release offer which stipulated they must marry.

...

Gulnaz had eventually agreed to the condition she marry her attacker under the earlier release offer but her lawyer said the release granted this week did not depend on her going through with the marriage.

http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-woman-jailed-being-raped-wins-pardon-060512716.html
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