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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
November 23 2011 11:29 GMT
#1
Kabul (CNN) -- The ordeal of Gulnaz did not simply begin and end with the physical attack of her rape. The rape began a years-long nightmare of further pain, culminating in an awful choice she must now make.

Even two years later, Gulnaz remembers the smell and state of her rapist's clothes when he came into the house when her mother left for a brief visit to the hospital.

"He had filthy clothes on as he does metal and construction work. When my mother went out, he came into my house and he closed doors and windows. I started screaming, but he shut me up by putting his hands on my mouth," she said.

The rapist was her cousin's husband.

After the attack, she hid what happened as long as she could. But soon she began vomiting in the mornings and showing signs of pregnancy. It was her attacker's child.

In Afghanistan, this brought her not sympathy, but prosecution. Aged just 19, she was found guilty by the courts of sex outside of marriage -- adultery -- and sentenced to twelve years in jail.


http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/22/world/asia/afghanistan-rape/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

If you read on, the article goes to say that if she gets out of jail by marrying her rapist, she will be in danger from her attacker's family because of their "shame".

I don't even... Apparently she had brought great shame by commiting adultery when she was raped and impregnated... I guess it shows how much rights women have in Afghanistan.

Should she stay in jail to be safe? What should happen to her daughter?
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NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
November 23 2011 11:35 GMT
#2
This world sickens me sometimes.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 11:38:57
November 23 2011 11:35 GMT
#3
This is just sad.......I can't see how they can find her guilty when it was sex against her will... But i guess the laws in Afghanistan are fucked up when it comes to women rights.

The guy got arrested and jailed too for rape? Couldnt find it clearly on the CNN article, only that reporters found him in a jail across the town (but not for what). Then at least there's a tiny tiny tiny little bit of "justice" that he is imprisoned too.

ps. nvm just re-read it and he's convicted of rape.
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Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 11:44:43
November 23 2011 11:38 GMT
#4
I know people, women's rights groups in particular, hate it when you "blame the victim". While that isn't my intention, I know that is how this is often construed:

How do we know it was rape and not her having an affair?

Upon reading more closely, he was in fact convicted of rape. And the incarceration of the victim is a regular practice, apparently, which is terrible.
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Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
November 23 2011 11:40 GMT
#5
On November 23 2011 20:38 Gnial wrote:
I know people, women's rights groups in particular, hate it when you "blame the victim". While that isn't my intention, I know that is how this is often construed:

How do we know it was rape and not her having an affair?


Though i agree with you and its easy for a woman to yell "rape" and the community jump on top of it. In the article it says the man got convicted for rape, so i guess they have some proof against him?
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7884 Posts
November 23 2011 11:40 GMT
#6
Well, I've seen quite a few topic here in teamliquid where some people would systematically take the defense of rapists rather than their victims.

Afghanistan is screwed. When traditions are more important than the most elementary justice, there is not much to be done except fighting.
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Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
November 23 2011 11:40 GMT
#7
On November 23 2011 20:40 Mithriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 20:38 Gnial wrote:
I know people, women's rights groups in particular, hate it when you "blame the victim". While that isn't my intention, I know that is how this is often construed:

How do we know it was rape and not her having an affair?


Though i agree with you and its easy for a woman to yell "rape" and the community jump on top of it. In the article it says the man got convicted for rape, so i guess they have some proof against him?


Hm, dunno how I missed that. I should sleep probably.
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XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
November 23 2011 11:41 GMT
#8
This is system flaw. I mean, flaws in the laws?

Morally, it is not correct.
The judge is brain dead? Earn so many money and hand out unjust law because it is law from the book.

Or maybe, judge is being bribed?

Ah, I am going to read the whole thing. ++ the other comments.
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shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
November 23 2011 11:41 GMT
#9
This is such a disgusting and ridiculous situation - "shouldn't have gotten yourself raped if you didn't want to go to prison". What the fuck? This is more than just blaming the victim for wearing a short skirt - it's actually making the victim the only bad person in this situation. What is wrong with these people?
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Wafflelisk
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1061 Posts
November 23 2011 11:41 GMT
#10
I'm usually a moral relativity guy; that other cultures have different values and should not be looked down upon. But even this has it's limits. And this, my friends, is a limit. Truly disgusting.
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Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
November 23 2011 11:41 GMT
#11
Hence the backwardness state that the Middle East is in (no offence, just an observation).

They need to move on from that, do what the rest of the world did 50 years ago and acknowledge that women do have rights, and that there IS a real legal system that does work the majority of the time.

Lifes too short to be small.
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 11:43:38
November 23 2011 11:43 GMT
#12
Wow really? The problem is that she didn't report it so ofc it was consented as mutual and not RAPE. But still the laws are so silly and disgusting. Although i would like to have a law that prosecute adultery here in US and not just get away with "divorce".
Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
November 23 2011 11:45 GMT
#13
On November 23 2011 20:43 DarkRise wrote:
Wow really? The problem is that she didn't report it so ofc it was consented as mutual and not RAPE. But still the laws are so silly and disgusting. Although i would like to have a law that prosecute adultery here in US and not just get away with "divorce".


Apparently if she reported it she would have just been killed or incarcerated anyways. There was no benefit to reporting it.
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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
November 23 2011 11:47 GMT
#14
I don't think there's much to say or discuss, this is just fucking disgusting and awful...
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Tabula`Rasa
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore81 Posts
November 23 2011 11:50 GMT
#15
The worst part about it is there's nothing more powerful nations in the world can do about these human rights abuses in the middle east. The fact of the matter is that Shari'a law is out of step with basic, objective and incontrovertible notions of justice and rights, and it will never change unless it is forcefully changed.
MidKnight
Profile Joined December 2008
Lithuania884 Posts
November 23 2011 11:54 GMT
#16
If that's exactly what happened, then yeah, obviously fucked up. It's sad when "traditions" or religion intervene with common sense.
TAAF
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland226 Posts
November 23 2011 12:00 GMT
#17
This is just awful... really sad to hear things like that =(
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Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
November 23 2011 12:00 GMT
#18
On November 23 2011 20:43 DarkRise wrote:
Wow really? The problem is that she didn't report it so ofc it was consented as mutual and not RAPE. But still the laws are so silly and disgusting. Although i would like to have a law that prosecute adultery here in US and not just get away with "divorce".


is this a joke?
MassacrisM
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom149 Posts
November 23 2011 12:01 GMT
#19
I'd look for an opportunity to slit the rapist's throat then commit suicide. Sucks to be born into the wrong gender in those countries.
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
November 23 2011 12:03 GMT
#20
This just makes me sick. It just shows how privileged we are not to have been born to a severely twisted and outdated culture like that.
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