EPTSTOP "PROTECT IP (S. 968)/SOPA (HR. 3261)" - Page 3
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On November 16 2011 01:06 TealLurker wrote: Can somebody fix the thread title? ALL CAPS is not cool. Only the "STOP" is needlessly in caps. The rest is typed correctly, I think. | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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Xalorian
Canada433 Posts
On November 16 2011 01:05 tnud wrote: MLG has forums too So does 95% of the internet o shit- No this will never pass. It's way to broad to pass for one, it's stupid too.. You don't get it, tho. It will pass, and they will not use it to block every single site on the web. Since it is so broad, they could use it to censor everything they want, anytime they want. Exactly like china. No more wikileaks, no more piratebay, no more torrent at all probably, no more youtube either. They will probably use it to try to shut down everything that could be used against the governement, too. MLG is fine, since they only talk about MLG and games on their forum, and stream only things that they own. TL is at risk, since the forum is so broad. People use it to complain against the governement pretty much every day, even if it's an eSports forum. | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On November 16 2011 00:49 Flonomenalz wrote: This would cause such a giant shit storm in our technology based world that I cannot see it being passed, or lasting any amount of time even if it is somehow passed. You're assuming that they plan to enforce it overnight. It'll take years and they'll do it step-by-step, just like with every other legislation that limits people's freedoms. And they won't be like "Oh, we're doing it because we want to make more money" but rather "We're doing it to stop the evil pirates/terrorists/pedophiles/etc.". | ||
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rememberauir
United States3 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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paperwing
49 Posts
We need a new political party or something. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On November 16 2011 01:25 paperwing wrote: Why do we elect people who do this? We need a new political party or something. The Internet vodka/tonic party?  But seriously,if this passes,which I don't think it will,won't this be like China where they censor everything on the internet? | ||
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paperwing
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Blacktion
United Kingdom1148 Posts
I get this is a BS law thats being forced through by lobbyists for the entertainment industry, but dont companies like google have a lot more money and therefore stronger lobbies in washington? Sorry if ive got something obvious wrong but im not from the US | ||
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Nothingtosay
United States875 Posts
On November 16 2011 01:25 paperwing wrote: Why do we elect people who do this? We need a new political party or something. The problem isn't who we elect the problem is how easily politicians can be bought because of our system of legalized bribery. Until we remove money from government the rich will be able to get legislation like this passed. Our only hope atm is that we have some big corporations buying out people on our side. | ||
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MassacrisM
United Kingdom149 Posts
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poor newb
United States1879 Posts
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MileyCyrus
United States285 Posts
1) Find out what state you live in 2) Go to -- https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml 3) Select your state and zip code 4) Fill out VERY basic information that will be used to validate that you are who you say your are 5) Make sure to include " PROTECT IP (S. 968)/SOPA (HR. 3261)" 6) Then write your opinion below (hopefully it wouldnt be in favor of the bill, but hey, thats your right) I have attached my own little write up below, use it if you want, or write your own. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am hugely against this bill. It is a massive move against internet freedom that seems to only be in-motion due to greed. This needless regulation will be virtually impossible to enforce but more importantly, doing so would be a frivolous use of manpower. China has a very similar to what this would be and its internet policies are well... a joke to be quite honest. I truly hope to see this shut down and hope that you will be apart of the reason. Thank you for your time. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In all seriousness this takes 2-3 minutes, it is remarkably streamlined and simple. EDIT: I sent that out to all Washington Representatives of Kentucky in 10-15 minutes. Im sure you can be bother to send out one or two =P | ||
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Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
This kind of law are semi - ok in communist states like China where the government is the one that decides what goes down and what stays but in the US it could mean "death" to that which is the (free of charge) content on the internet since all but a few sites will not be able to "cope" with the law due to budget issue and we know where monopoly over something ( diamonds) leads. That said i am happy to live in EU and this will most likely not happen here... for now at least, but if it actually passes ( tho i dont see it passing ) i gues it sucks a lot for you guys :/ Come to thing of it tho... if it does passes it would kinda be the "last" thing needed for China to be officially the "new" USA since atm the only thing which USA is "above" them with ( expect for the fact that half of China pop lives in close to poverty condition but non seems to care cuz they are "hiding" is pretty well ) "freedom" to speak your mind...etc and if it does passes and the large companies actually use this to "kill"/censor most of the sites I can see a lot of there rich/smart emigrants ( and lets be honest a lot of smart ppl used to and still do migrate in USA from Asia/EU and Africa due to the poverty/regime in there country and the fact that in USA there is a need for ppl with knowledge and there is the money to pay them ) going to China over USA. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
feel really sad for you guys | ||
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
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FaiL_SaFe
United States104 Posts
On November 16 2011 01:25 paperwing wrote: Why do we elect people who do this? We need a new political party or something. I actually think the problems lie in a somewhat different direction. Problem one is the fact that, the entertainment industry is on this insane quest to control utterly all access to any sort of media content that they had anything to do with. This is of course, absurd. In their perfect world, most of the entertainment industry would still force you to buy CD's for all of your music which, of course, cannot be burned onto a computer or used in an MP3 player to avoid the risks, god forbid, of someone sharing their music with someone else, and if the MPAA had their way, you could only purchase movies on DVD for the same reason. It's also worth noting that the entertainment industry has funneled quite a large sum of money into political campaigns. Money may not buy their votes, but it sure as hell buys access. This leads to the second problem... That is the fact that most of the government officials, elected or appointed who are responsible for writing and passing this sort of legislation or making FCC rules in this area have absolutely no fucking clue what they're talking about. Somebody pointed out earlier in the thread that most of these people are 50-somethings many of whom are barely computer literate. There is a certain simple logic to the entertainment industries argument, it's quite simply piracy=bad, therefore, we must do everything in our power to stop piracy. There's nothing inherently wrong with this, however, this has and does often lead to overreach in legislative attempts to come to grips with internet piracy. This never really gets noticed by the senators and members of congress who are responsible for introducing and passing the legislation because they don't know what they're talking about. I would argue that many people in positions of power, and, to a certain extent among older people in general, they seem to have a fundamental misconception about the way that the internet works. They seem to see it as a controlled environment in which the "good" people and the "bad" people operate in highly differentiated "parts" of the internet. Obviously, this is rather ridiculous to anyone who has, well, really any familiarity with the internet. Unfortunately, this idea seems to be beyond the conception of our elected officials which leads to bills that ultimately, have good intentions (let's be honest, the elimination of true internet privacy is probably a good thing), but in their haste the entertainment industry and the government have overreached horribly. Fortunately, if the Supreme Court decides to treat the internet as an area where we free speech is protected, then we're fine. But that could take a while unfortunately. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
This will make it riddicolously easy to enforce propaganda due to lack of sources in forums and the government can basically control whatever it wants. I am pretty sure people dont wanna live their internet life through a proxy server :/ I hope this isn't passed, and my condolences if it does pass | ||
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MileyCyrus
United States285 Posts
On November 16 2011 01:45 FaiL_SaFe wrote: I actually think the problems lie in a somewhat different direction. Problem one is the fact that, the entertainment industry is on this insane quest to control utterly all access to any sort of media content that they had anything to do with. This is of course, absurd. In their perfect world, most of the entertainment industry would still force you to buy CD's for all of your music which, of course, cannot be burned onto a computer or used in an MP3 player to avoid the risks, god forbid, of someone sharing their music with someone else, and if the MPAA had their way, you could only purchase movies on DVD for the same reason. It's also worth noting that the entertainment industry has funneled quite a large sum of money into political campaigns. Money may not buy their votes, but it sure as hell buys access. This leads to the second problem... That is the fact that most of the government officials, elected or appointed who are responsible for writing and passing this sort of legislation or making FCC rules in this area have absolutely no fucking clue what they're talking about. Somebody pointed out earlier in the thread that most of these people are 50-somethings many of whom are barely computer literate. There is a certain simple logic to the entertainment industries argument, it's quite simply piracy=bad, therefore, we must do everything in our power to stop piracy. There's nothing inherently wrong with this, however, this has and does often lead to overreach in legislative attempts to come to grips with internet piracy. This never really gets noticed by the senators and members of congress who are responsible for introducing and passing the legislation because they don't know what they're talking about. I would argue that many people in positions of power, and, to a certain extent among older people in general, they seem to have a fundamental misconception about the way that the internet works. They seem to see it as a controlled environment in which the "good" people and the "bad" people operate in highly differentiated "parts" of the internet. Obviously, this is rather ridiculous to anyone who has, well, really any familiarity with the internet. Unfortunately, this idea seems to be beyond the conception of our elected officials which leads to bills that ultimately, have good intentions (let's be honest, the elimination of true internet privacy is probably a good thing), but in their haste the entertainment industry and the government have overreached horribly. Fortunately, if the Supreme Court decides to treat the internet as an area where we free speech is protected, then we're fine. But that could take a while unfortunately. Absolutely, hopefully we only have to endure another decade or two of these ridiculous laws before "our" generation is the vast majority in Washington. Which will help the....well lets be honest, retarded, laws get smashed into the ground on day one so real issues of the day can be addressed. | ||
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How will this affect MLG and other tournaments? 
