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On August 31 2012 05:13 ecstatica wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 18:34 Abraxas514 wrote:On August 30 2012 12:49 ecstatica wrote:
I drank with rich ppl before, they have nice booze and it goes down smoother. But after a shot or two the difference is a joke. Ppl drink to get at least tilpsy, to 'relax'. I find having 10 bottles of different whiskey to be incredibly pretentious and borderline laughable but thats just me. Rich people? A good bottle of scotch is 40$ in the US. You don't take 'shots' of good malt, or anything else for that matter, you enjoy it like you would a good hot coffee. But I guess if you're entire drinking experience consists of illegal under-age high school house parties, we're wasting our time talking to you. I'm a bartender. I said I drank with rich people before only to roughly give you an idea of the stuff I've tried, so no one throws "you have no clue" at me. Not specificaly whiskey. It is comical because I can pour you literally anything for your 3rd drink and you will not know the difference. Whatever you say will not change this fact so keep entertaining yourself with how unique you are for buying rare breeds of alcohol rofl. I have to stop derailing since I was warned but just wanted to answer this post. I went through some drinking stages in my life and now I drink very seldom, if at all, and tbh I wish I didn't drink at all. Bottom line - if you drink with any sort of regularity you're an alcoholic, even if its once a week. Drinking when you go out or to have fun is basically admitting youre socially inept. Drinking home alone is much worse.
You realise that's like saying "I'm a taxi driver. Cars are for getting from point A to point B so spending more money on a car is a complete waste and after driving three different cars you won't even notice a difference any more."
The point is anything is life can be abused. Alcohol served in bars is often used to get people drunk, they get sick and throw up, loose their inhibitions and fuck random people. So you see alcohol as a dirty little devil that dresses itself up in fancy bottles to fool people into believing they are different because they drink something with a fancy name.
But you're wrong. A fat guy might buy a hundred cookies to eat and get more fat, but someone with finer tastes might buy a fancy french pastry to enjoy all the flavors.
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From the 8 or so whiskeys I have tried, I have to say that price does correlate at least to hangover quality. If I get 3-4 drinks of a bad or so-so whiskey, I'll feel it the next day. For as little as $40 for a 750 mL bottle of decent whiskey, that starts to fade out.
As for taste, my biggest indicator of a decent whiskey is burping 2-8 hours later what I had. If it's good, it'll be a pleasant reminder of what I drank. If it's bad, it will be a terrible reminder that I drank way too much the night before.
That's my 2c.
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On August 31 2012 05:13 ecstatica wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 18:34 Abraxas514 wrote:On August 30 2012 12:49 ecstatica wrote:
I drank with rich ppl before, they have nice booze and it goes down smoother. But after a shot or two the difference is a joke. Ppl drink to get at least tilpsy, to 'relax'. I find having 10 bottles of different whiskey to be incredibly pretentious and borderline laughable but thats just me. Rich people? A good bottle of scotch is 40$ in the US. You don't take 'shots' of good malt, or anything else for that matter, you enjoy it like you would a good hot coffee. But I guess if you're entire drinking experience consists of illegal under-age high school house parties, we're wasting our time talking to you. I'm a bartender. I said I drank with rich people before only to roughly give you an idea of the stuff I've tried, so no one throws "you have no clue" at me. Not specificaly whiskey. It is comical because I can pour you literally anything for your 3rd drink and you will not know the difference. Whatever you say will not change this fact so keep entertaining yourself with how unique you are for buying rare breeds of alcohol rofl. I have to stop derailing since I was warned but just wanted to answer this post. I went through some drinking stages in my life and now I drink very seldom, if at all, and tbh I wish I didn't drink at all. Bottom line - if you drink with any sort of regularity you're an alcoholic, even if its once a week. Drinking when you go out or to have fun is basically admitting youre socially inept. Drinking home alone is much worse.
That is hilarious haha.
I have - literally - done this bet several times, and always got the cheap shit right from the good stuff. If you are a socially inept alcoholic like me it's as easy as telling milk from coke.
Easiest way to get a good scotch for free: Bet you can blind taste it from cheap crap.
Cheers! *opens an Ardbeg to finish a good 10 after work beer*
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ginger ale is the best way to go
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On August 31 2012 07:41 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 05:13 ecstatica wrote:On August 30 2012 18:34 Abraxas514 wrote:On August 30 2012 12:49 ecstatica wrote:
I drank with rich ppl before, they have nice booze and it goes down smoother. But after a shot or two the difference is a joke. Ppl drink to get at least tilpsy, to 'relax'. I find having 10 bottles of different whiskey to be incredibly pretentious and borderline laughable but thats just me. Rich people? A good bottle of scotch is 40$ in the US. You don't take 'shots' of good malt, or anything else for that matter, you enjoy it like you would a good hot coffee. But I guess if you're entire drinking experience consists of illegal under-age high school house parties, we're wasting our time talking to you. I'm a bartender. I said I drank with rich people before only to roughly give you an idea of the stuff I've tried, so no one throws "you have no clue" at me. Not specificaly whiskey. It is comical because I can pour you literally anything for your 3rd drink and you will not know the difference. Whatever you say will not change this fact so keep entertaining yourself with how unique you are for buying rare breeds of alcohol rofl. I have to stop derailing since I was warned but just wanted to answer this post. I went through some drinking stages in my life and now I drink very seldom, if at all, and tbh I wish I didn't drink at all. Bottom line - if you drink with any sort of regularity you're an alcoholic, even if its once a week. Drinking when you go out or to have fun is basically admitting youre socially inept. Drinking home alone is much worse. That is hilarious haha. I have - literally - done this bet several times, and always got the cheap shit right from the good stuff. If you are a socially inept alcoholic like me it's as easy as telling milk from coke. Easiest way to get a good scotch for free: Bet you can blind taste it from cheap crap. Cheers! *opens an Ardbeg to finish a good 10 after work beer*
"Whatever you say will not change this fact so keep entertaining yourself with how unique you are for buying rare breeds of alcohol rofl." "Bottom line - if you drink with any sort of regularity you're an alcoholic, even if its once a week. Drinking when you go out or to have fun is basically admitting youre socially inept. Drinking home alone is much worse."
And calling others pretentious? Have fun mate.
Back to topic: I love my new bottle of Bowmore Islay Whiskey (Enigma), a nice and smooth cherry flavour. Bought it over half a year ago and still dont regret one € spent on it, because it was not too expensive (25 € in the duty free).
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Whiskey isn't my favourite alcohol but I was gifted one bottle of a 15 years old Glendronach straight form Scotland. It's very good... especially when you're just used to cheap Jack 
I'd like to ask you guys, do you know any equivalent ? I wouldn't mind trying out more of the same.
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The 15 year old "revival"? It's amazing. The 12 "original" is also very good, but make sure you get the 43% ABV, unchill filtered and natural color bottling.
Other similar singles: Macallan 12, Aberlour A'Bunadh, 18 years or older Highland Park and 15 years or older Glenfarclas.
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On September 01 2012 07:56 Abraxas514 wrote:
The 15 year old "revival"? It's amazing. The 12 "original" is also very good, but make sure you get the 43% ABV, unchill filtered and natural color bottling.
Other similar singles: Macallan 12, Aberlour A'Bunadh, 18 years or older Highland Park and 15 years or older Glenfarclas.
"Amazing" that's the word I was looking for ! Thanks for the recomendations. Some of them are pricey... I'll probably group buy a bottle.
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Just got into whiskey very recently through a friend of mine. I really really enjoyed Ardbeg and Laphroaig (both 10 years I think?). How do these two compare to others of the same kind? Are they amongst the good, the very good, or are they just "average"?
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On September 07 2012 05:55 iNbluE wrote:
Just got into whiskey very recently through a friend of mine. I really really enjoyed Ardbeg and Laphroaig (both 10 years I think?). How do these two compare to others of the same kind? Are they amongst the good, the very good, or are they just "average"?
I can just speak for Laphroaigh, since its my favorite whisky (which probably makes me a bit biased) but Laphroaigh 10year is awesome. Really nice taste if you like smoky whiskies
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On September 07 2012 06:25 Pulimuli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2012 05:55 iNbluE wrote:
Just got into whiskey very recently through a friend of mine. I really really enjoyed Ardbeg and Laphroaig (both 10 years I think?). How do these two compare to others of the same kind? Are they amongst the good, the very good, or are they just "average"? I can just speak for Laphroaigh, since its my favorite whisky (which probably makes me a bit biased) but Laphroaigh 10year is awesome. Really nice taste if you like smoky whiskies
Try the quarter cask, and some lagavulin for moar.
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On September 08 2012 11:57 Abraxas514 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2012 06:25 Pulimuli wrote:On September 07 2012 05:55 iNbluE wrote:
Just got into whiskey very recently through a friend of mine. I really really enjoyed Ardbeg and Laphroaig (both 10 years I think?). How do these two compare to others of the same kind? Are they amongst the good, the very good, or are they just "average"? I can just speak for Laphroaigh, since its my favorite whisky (which probably makes me a bit biased) but Laphroaigh 10year is awesome. Really nice taste if you like smoky whiskies Try the quarter cask, and some lagavulin for moar.
Right on the money with that one. the Laphroaigh quarter cask is my favourite of the 4, and in general I love the smokey whiskys. Another I've tried and like thats (kinda) similar is the Talisker 10 yr. Its lighter in flavour, but still has a good bit of smoke to it. Its also significantly cheaper than the other bottles we're talking about (the quarter cask being the most expensive, but definitely worth the investment)
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Tell me, do you really drink whiskey without any kind of mix with it ? I mean red bull or coke ? I tried Johnny red without anything and I really thought I am going to throw it out if I am going to take another zip
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Was whiskey a drink that you guys got used to, because there are a lot of drinks I like and dont like, but whiskey has to be the worst imho
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On September 08 2012 12:16 krzych113 wrote:
Tell me, do you really drink whiskey without any kind of mix with it ? I mean red bull or coke ? I tried Johnny red without anything and I really thought I am going to throw it out if I am going to take another zip
Johnny red is like total shit, bro. Also, don't buy discount scotch...
On September 08 2012 12:21 Burns wrote:
Was whiskey a drink that you guys got used to, because there are a lot of drinks I like and dont like, but whiskey has to be the worst imho
Some people like beer and whisky (malt stuff)
People who like rye bread... tend to like rye whiskies (Tennessee, some bourbons)
People who like to get drunk... stick with "russian" vodka made in the UK.
On September 08 2012 12:08 Wetty wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 11:57 Abraxas514 wrote:On September 07 2012 06:25 Pulimuli wrote:On September 07 2012 05:55 iNbluE wrote:
Just got into whiskey very recently through a friend of mine. I really really enjoyed Ardbeg and Laphroaig (both 10 years I think?). How do these two compare to others of the same kind? Are they amongst the good, the very good, or are they just "average"? I can just speak for Laphroaigh, since its my favorite whisky (which probably makes me a bit biased) but Laphroaigh 10year is awesome. Really nice taste if you like smoky whiskies Try the quarter cask, and some lagavulin for moar. Right on the money with that one. the Laphroaigh quarter cask is my favourite of the 4, and in general I love the smokey whiskys. Another I've tried and like thats (kinda) similar is the Talisker 10 yr. Its lighter in flavour, but still has a good bit of smoke to it. Its also significantly cheaper than the other bottles we're talking about (the quarter cask being the most expensive, but definitely worth the investment)
Talisker isn't from Islay though. Bowmore is a bit sweeter and heavier bodied than the "big three" peat monsters, and Springbank gives us a really different perspective into peat.
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Can I just ask if anyone has any experience with Glenfiddich, what was your opinion on their products? I personally avoid alcohol like the plague but some relatives enjoy the stuff and it is good to know what Whiskey drinkers think is a good product. Overheard them talking about whiskey brands and that is the only one I remember. What of their products would you guys recomend as a gift.
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On September 08 2012 12:16 krzych113 wrote:
Tell me, do you really drink whiskey without any kind of mix with it ? I mean red bull or coke ? I tried Johnny red without anything and I really thought I am going to throw it out if I am going to take another zip
A major point of single malts is, like wine, to drink it for the depth of flavor. Mixing it kind of kills that purpose - save that for poor-tasting stuff that you only drink to get drunk.
Your selection may have been more of the latter.
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Anyone had the Cragganmore 17? I loved it when I tried it at a bar, so I snagged a bottle over the internet and now I'm really regretting not buying a second one (limited edition, sold out T.T).
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On September 08 2012 13:13 Abraxas514 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 12:16 krzych113 wrote:
Tell me, do you really drink whiskey without any kind of mix with it ? I mean red bull or coke ? I tried Johnny red without anything and I really thought I am going to throw it out if I am going to take another zip Johnny red is like total shit, bro. Also, don't buy discount scotch... Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 12:21 Burns wrote:
Was whiskey a drink that you guys got used to, because there are a lot of drinks I like and dont like, but whiskey has to be the worst imho Some people like beer and whisky (malt stuff) People who like rye bread... tend to like rye whiskies (Tennessee, some bourbons) People who like to get drunk... stick with "russian" vodka made in the UK. Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 12:08 Wetty wrote:On September 08 2012 11:57 Abraxas514 wrote:On September 07 2012 06:25 Pulimuli wrote:On September 07 2012 05:55 iNbluE wrote:
Just got into whiskey very recently through a friend of mine. I really really enjoyed Ardbeg and Laphroaig (both 10 years I think?). How do these two compare to others of the same kind? Are they amongst the good, the very good, or are they just "average"? I can just speak for Laphroaigh, since its my favorite whisky (which probably makes me a bit biased) but Laphroaigh 10year is awesome. Really nice taste if you like smoky whiskies Try the quarter cask, and some lagavulin for moar. Right on the money with that one. the Laphroaigh quarter cask is my favourite of the 4, and in general I love the smokey whiskys. Another I've tried and like thats (kinda) similar is the Talisker 10 yr. Its lighter in flavour, but still has a good bit of smoke to it. Its also significantly cheaper than the other bottles we're talking about (the quarter cask being the most expensive, but definitely worth the investment) Talisker isn't from Islay though. Bowmore is a bit sweeter and heavier bodied than the "big three" peat monsters, and Springbank gives us a really different perspective into peat.
Yeah, you're correct of course, it's not from Islay, its an "Isle of Skye" whisky, but it does have a similar flavour. Plus, its the whisky of choice for James Bond in the book series? Bonus cool points right? :D
On September 08 2012 13:29 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Can I just ask if anyone has any experience with Glenfiddich, what was your opinion on their products? I personally avoid alcohol like the plague but some relatives enjoy the stuff and it is good to know what Whiskey drinkers think is a good product. Overheard them talking about whiskey brands and that is the only one I remember. What of their products would you guys recomend as a gift.
It really depends on your price range. The basic Glenfiddich is the 8yr, and it's good, but not "great". I'd personally recommend buying them at 12yr as it's a very significant step up from the 8yr in terms of flavour (in my opinion, the 8yr is sharper, less depth) Its more expensive, but if they like Glenfiddich, that's a good choice (They start to get significantly more expensive from there).
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Balvenie Madeira Cask
Finally opened last night. Holy fucking shit is that whisky amazing. Blew my mind.
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