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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
November 07 2011 21:06 GMT
#781
murderers don't have it as bad, even rapists get off with 3 years, not saying it's right, just too severe
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
November 07 2011 21:12 GMT
#782
You know society is fucked up when it is legal to view obscene, graphic material of dead people (and children) but viewing pictures of kids with their clothes off? Sentence for life!

How can anyone defend that possession of two pictures (two counts) can have a comparable sentence to someone who commits vehicular manslaughter while drunk driving?
rederoin
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands51 Posts
November 07 2011 21:41 GMT
#783
On November 08 2011 06:12 setzer wrote:
You know society is fucked up when it is legal to view obscene, graphic material of dead people (and children) but viewing pictures of kids with their clothes off? Sentence for life!
?

Same goes for lolicon... which for some strange reason is illegal in severall European countries.
What is this I don't even
Nastrodamous
Profile Joined May 2011
United States4 Posts
November 08 2011 01:34 GMT
#784
and as I read this topic I find out that a coach at a major university molested about a dozen kids. He wont be in jail for life.
Why should this guy be in jail for life for POSSESSION.
in the world we live apparently owning pictures if kids is worse than actually molesting them.
Alay
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States660 Posts
November 08 2011 01:36 GMT
#785
On November 08 2011 06:41 rederoin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 06:12 setzer wrote:
You know society is fucked up when it is legal to view obscene, graphic material of dead people (and children) but viewing pictures of kids with their clothes off? Sentence for life!
?

Same goes for lolicon... which for some strange reason is illegal in severall European countries.


And the U.S. too, surprisingly to me.
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
November 08 2011 01:48 GMT
#786
On November 08 2011 06:12 setzer wrote:
You know society is fucked up when it is legal to view obscene, graphic material of dead people (and children) but viewing pictures of kids with their clothes off? Sentence for life!

How can anyone defend that possession of two pictures (two counts) can have a comparable sentence to someone who commits vehicular manslaughter while drunk driving?


Because possession of child porn is as guilty as murder people in computer games, possession of blood diamond, paying tax to invade other country.. oh wait....
Leenock the Punisher
roxsick
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada42 Posts
November 08 2011 01:56 GMT
#787
What I find ironic is the person who raped the child to create the pornography would more than likely get a lighter sentance then this poor guy.

This is ludicrous, so absurdly disproportionate.
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Glockateer
Profile Joined June 2009
United States254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 02:19:31
November 08 2011 02:07 GMT
#788
This is incredibly stupid. Pictures?
For one, people don't even get that for DOING THE ACT.
For two, that means people who watch gore should be life imprisonment because of their viewing of dead/mutilated people?

This is like sending a message saying it's okay to hurt kids because if you get caught you won't get life.
GET SM4SHED
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 08 2011 02:14 GMT
#789
Sigh, Florida...

This is the only time I will ever even somewhat defend a person who possesses child porn, this is just wrong. If OJ Simpson gets away scot-free for killing somebody... >.>
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
rederoin
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands51 Posts
November 08 2011 13:59 GMT
#790
On November 08 2011 10:36 Alay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 06:41 rederoin wrote:
On November 08 2011 06:12 setzer wrote:
You know society is fucked up when it is legal to view obscene, graphic material of dead people (and children) but viewing pictures of kids with their clothes off? Sentence for life!
?

Same goes for lolicon... which for some strange reason is illegal in severall European countries.


And the U.S. too, surprisingly to me.

I don't think its really enforced tho.
What is this I don't even
Golem72
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 14:35:36
November 08 2011 14:28 GMT
#791
I think the problem with society as a whole, people in general, also the legal system is that one you do something wrong we throw you in the slammer then do nothing and by the time you're out you have learned nothing usually depending on the person.
You are re-entered into the world with a lot of resentment and hate and continue to practice these disliked behaviors what I'd also like to point out is that the programs in place for these things to "help" people sometimes do their job but not always.

In a situation like this we are failing as a society to correct or help individuals and instead showing them that we are more focused on discarding the unwanted like a piece of trash than take the time necessary to reform the person like recycling trash and integrating them back into society to be useful.

Then the question comes to who is willing to take up their own time to help these individuals? Who as in who are the proper people who's going to get the job done and have a say 70% success rate. As we look at it now the legal system doesn't help always because if it did we'd have less problems as we do now and neither does society. Society cares as much like a kid passing another person being bullied we just ignore problems in our face and move on instead of dealing with them right here and right now.

Ps. I believe that all people can be useful regardless of their talents. Real men don't make excuses!
When my situation ain't improving I try to murder everything moving! (Jay-Z)
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
November 08 2011 16:21 GMT
#792
When i was 11, i used to be on IRC chatting with people i considered to be my friends.
One of them was really nice to me so i used to speak with him a lot about my life and the little problems i had with my parents at this time.

One day he asked me to come to his house for a week end so we could speak and see eachother in real life. I remember him saying that my sex and age wasn't a matter to him. I answered him that i did not have enough money for that. To which he responded that he would pay me the ticket and my parents would never know about this. I really wanted to see him, he was the only person i though that could really understand me. He always gave me good advices and was always here to hear me. I didn't come to his house, not because of him, but because my parents would have known and i thought they would have been mad at me because i though they didn't like me.

Few years later, this same man showed me pictures of a man with two little girl (approx 3) completely naked. He was holding the first girl by her feet so that the little girl could suck his dick. The other girl was only watching the camera on the bed. This picture shocked me. Since then, nothing really shocked me. I've seen many horrible things including picture of dead bodies, video of assassinations, extreme body modifications, torture, .. Nothing seems to affect me anymore.

A year after that, i heard that this guy got caught for possession of child porn on his hard drive. He was sentenced to jail and psycatric sessions. He flew to Guinea for some times and went back again. He never actually went to jail nor did he recieved any psycatric help.

I'm still speaking to him. Two years ago he went to my house where i saw him in real life for the first time while he was still being purchased by the police. We never spoke about the day he asked me to come to his house, we just watched movies drink beers and talked.

Soon after that, i started to search for child pornography pictures on the internet and found some. I never intended to like that. I wanted to see the picture he showed me to see if i was able to feel something again. I wanted to be shocked, i wanted to feel bad watching this. I didn't feel anything. So i searched again and again, i thought it was the only last thing that could makes me feel bad but actually, i started to enjoy it.
When i realised i was looking up for cp for excitment rather than remorse, that's when i started to feel guilt. I realised i was becoming like him and that scared the shit out of me. I felt horrible thinking i was hurting someone by looking at these picture. At that time i had two options : see a shrink or kill myself. I decided to see a shrink first and if it failed then suicide.

I was able to see someone specialized in deviant sexual behaviour and she first put me on antidepressant. It didn't really help (talking to her did afterwards) so she asked me to be followed by an hospital on regular basis for a month or two. I panicked, i didn't know what to do. It was the first time i talked to my parents about all this. They felt bad for not knowning this all this time but said that i didn't need hospitalization. That it was too hard for a treatment and that i could overcome my urges without it. I did, and i'm so happy about that. I never thought i would.

What i want to say is all the pedophiles aren't the same. The guy i met is a good person. He's smart, educated and really nice to everybody. He doesn't deserve to be locked in jail for life and he doesn't deserve death penalty. He is just sick. He needs help, not punishment. And i'm the one he nearly abused when i was a child who says that. I saw his side and i don't think jail would have helped me like my shrink did.
Of course there are pedophiles who won't ever change but they're only a little part of them. For the others, help can't hurt, punishment do.
I saw a videos of a pedophile being hit to death by dozens of angry men. All i thought was "If it was me ? Did i deserve that ?". My answer is no and whatever this guy did, i think those men who killed him because of his sickness are the one who should be punished.


English isn't my native language, i'm sorry for my mistakes. I hope i was clear, i'm getting a bit emotional when it comes to this subject.
FranzP
Profile Joined November 2010
France270 Posts
November 08 2011 16:33 GMT
#793
NanaCry,

This is one of the best post I think I will ever read. Thanks for you testimony man, this is a great story. Best of luck in your life.
"Cyberhacking is kind of like masturbation I guess, all countries do it but nobody actually talks about it. China just was accidentally doing it with the door wide open." Newbistic
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
November 08 2011 16:34 GMT
#794
On November 06 2011 10:15 aeoliant wrote:
he definitely has harmed children by paying some sick fucker for the pictures... he deserves to be put away. but no parole seems a little harsh (he has ~50+ years in jail...) maybe he has a shit lawyer


you could get the same sentence for watching children hentai. do you harm actually harm any child then?
rederoin
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands51 Posts
November 08 2011 16:39 GMT
#795
On November 09 2011 01:34 saltywet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 10:15 aeoliant wrote:
he definitely has harmed children by paying some sick fucker for the pictures... he deserves to be put away. but no parole seems a little harsh (he has ~50+ years in jail...) maybe he has a shit lawyer


you could get the same sentence for watching children hentai. do you harm actually harm any child then?

seriously? I mean.. I know lolicon/doujins are illegal, but lifelong for watching that is the definition of extreme.
What is this I don't even
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
November 08 2011 16:39 GMT
#796
On November 09 2011 01:34 saltywet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 10:15 aeoliant wrote:
he definitely has harmed children by paying some sick fucker for the pictures... he deserves to be put away. but no parole seems a little harsh (he has ~50+ years in jail...) maybe he has a shit lawyer


you could get the same sentence for watching children hentai. do you harm actually harm any child then?

No you can't.
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 16:42:44
November 08 2011 16:41 GMT
#797
On November 09 2011 01:39 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 01:34 saltywet wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:15 aeoliant wrote:
he definitely has harmed children by paying some sick fucker for the pictures... he deserves to be put away. but no parole seems a little harsh (he has ~50+ years in jail...) maybe he has a shit lawyer


you could get the same sentence for watching children hentai. do you harm actually harm any child then?

No you can't.


You shouldn't, but since each image can be convicted as a seperate charge, 100 images at 1 year per image, it technically could happen. It wouldn't, but it could.

Edit: Though I'm unsure if cartoons are illegal in the US if we were referring specifically to the US.
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Harrow
Profile Joined November 2010
United States245 Posts
November 08 2011 16:42 GMT
#798
Yeah, this does seem disproportionate, based more on what we fear the defendant could do in the future than what has actually been done. Some of the posts in this thread are a bit worrying - the guys who are acting like he's done nothing wrong, or should just get a slap on the wrist - but a first offender should have a sentence that aims for rehabilitation.
rederoin
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands51 Posts
November 08 2011 16:45 GMT
#799
On November 09 2011 01:41 Iyerbeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 01:39 RoosterSamurai wrote:
On November 09 2011 01:34 saltywet wrote:
On November 06 2011 10:15 aeoliant wrote:
he definitely has harmed children by paying some sick fucker for the pictures... he deserves to be put away. but no parole seems a little harsh (he has ~50+ years in jail...) maybe he has a shit lawyer


you could get the same sentence for watching children hentai. do you harm actually harm any child then?

No you can't.


You shouldn't, but since each image can be convicted as a seperate charge, 100 images at 1 year per image, it technically could happen. It wouldn't, but it could.

Edit: Though I'm unsure if cartoons are illegal in the US if we were referring specifically to the US.


Its illegal in the US and several European countries.
What is this I don't even
SySLeif
Profile Joined July 2011
United States123 Posts
November 08 2011 16:45 GMT
#800
Well he did steal that life of the child. For now on the child will have nightmares about it and will never grow up to be the same person had it not happened. It's very fair.
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