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Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
November 06 2011 06:34 GMT
#361
The judge must be a very old man. It may have been something to have 400+ child pornography images back in the 1980s since that would take a lot of your time and resources to gather - not to mention you would probably know whoever makes them.

But it's the present day. 1 Click to download a torrent, another to run in in your program, and bam - 400+ images in two clicks. And he got it for free. This isn't possession of cocaine, more is really kinda irrelevant in the digital age as long as you aren't buying or selling.
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Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
November 06 2011 06:35 GMT
#362
Completely fucking excessive sentence.... If this is not successfully appealed, I will lose a lot of respect for their justice system.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 06:36:47
November 06 2011 06:36 GMT
#363
On November 06 2011 15:32 Zinnwaldite wrote:

I didnt judge him, i said i can't.


Let's see...

On November 06 2011 15:32 Zinnwaldite wrote:
A 'little fetish' doesn't mean shit to me. If you knowingly accessed child porn, then your brain deserves to be scrambled on the sidewalk under my boots. That is so beyond fucked up that I can't even think of rational words to describe it.


On November 06 2011 15:32 Zinnwaldite wrote:
Just because he didn't molest a kid doesn't mean he deserves to walk around. I wouldn't want people like that walking the streets, undressing my kids with their perverted eyes.


On November 06 2011 15:32 Zinnwaldite wrote:
Fuck this guy and fuck every guy like him. Right up the ass with a barbed stick.
Multiple times.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
November 06 2011 06:36 GMT
#364
Im all for harsher sentencing. I think more crimes needs much more punishment because the current ones do not detour crime.

So yay, enjoy your prison cell.
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Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
November 06 2011 06:37 GMT
#365
He deserves it simply cuz its to much of a risk to let a person who could ruin a child life free.
There are very few cases where the accused is sentenced to life prison and there are even cases where the crimes are higher then this one but those cases should be the one where they also get life prison not this one that should not.
There is not one good reason to let a guy who was in possession of child porn free unless it was something like 15-8 yers old porn that the justice system still class "child" porn in some countries or if the guy actually did not knew what he was downloading.
Its not worth the risk of this guy making something with his life to let him free and risk a child getting raped and maybe even killed resulting in him ruining a life that would most likely have been much more "productive" then his own.
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Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
November 06 2011 06:37 GMT
#366
On November 06 2011 15:32 Zinnwaldite wrote:
He has taken a huge shit on so many people by watching and taking pleasure in seeing children getting destroyed, and he needs to own up to that.


so many of you people don't seem to understand this.
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CreatureSC2
Profile Joined July 2010
United States156 Posts
November 06 2011 06:39 GMT
#367
This is just fucking ridiculous. Shit like this is the reason the United States leads the world in prison population.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 06:56:51
November 06 2011 06:41 GMT
#368
On November 06 2011 15:37 Dhalphir wrote:
so many of you people don't seem to understand this.


Westboro Church shits on people getting destroyed and takes pleasure in it. Should we lock them all up in jail for life as well?

How about religious fundamentalists? Or political extremists? They shit on people, even children, all the fucking time and take pleasure in it. You shit on a dozen sexual deviances every time you fap to your computer, just like everyone else.

Shitting on people and taking pleasure in it isn't a crime, it's a right. It's when your shitting actually does something that shit starts to matter. And if you're going to tell people that downloading child porn is worse than actually molesting children...well, it's your right to shit on them, too, but you'll look like an idiot doing so.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
November 06 2011 06:43 GMT
#369
On November 06 2011 15:37 Dhalphir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 15:32 Zinnwaldite wrote:
He has taken a huge shit on so many people by watching and taking pleasure in seeing children getting destroyed, and he needs to own up to that.


so many of you people don't seem to understand this.

Proportionality. I think it's you who doesn't understand, buddy.
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
November 06 2011 06:46 GMT
#370
Nothing to discuss here imo.

Hopefully this helps sends a message to make more people stay away and seek help for their addictions.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 06:50:51
November 06 2011 06:47 GMT
#371
On November 06 2011 15:37 Aterons_toss wrote:
He deserves it simply cuz its to much of a risk to let a person who could ruin a child life free.
There are very few cases where the accused is sentenced to life prison and there are even cases where the crimes are higher then this one but those cases should be the one where they also get life prison not this one that should not.
There is not one good reason to let a guy who was in possession of child porn free unless it was something like 15-8 yers old porn that the justice system still class "child" porn in some countries or if the guy actually did not knew what he was downloading.
Its not worth the risk of this guy making something with his life to let him free and risk a child getting raped and maybe even killed resulting in him ruining a life that would most likely have been much more "productive" then his own.

What kind of stupid logic is this? I saw it brought up by that Zinnwaldite guy as well, about punishing someone for crimes that may/may not have committed, or in your case, what they may commit in the future... How can you possibly support this?

You saying we should lock up a shop lifter forever, just as a precaution in case they decide to escalate into armed robbery? We should give a life sentence to someone for assault, to prevent them from ever murdering anyone? We should lock somebody up who watches S&M porn just in case they decide to go tie up some chick and rape her?

Sorry man that's a stupid argument, you don't give someone life just to prevent something that they MIGHT do, you punish them for the crime they HAVE done. And in this case, a shorter prison sentence + serious counselling might actually have the same effect in preventing him for re-offending, instead of locking his life up and throwing away the key.

Edit: I'm not saying that denying someone parole because you think they are likely to re-offend is wrong, but blatantly punishing someone for something they have never done before is just stupid...
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 06:53:38
November 06 2011 06:49 GMT
#372
On November 06 2011 15:37 Aterons_toss wrote:
He deserves it simply cuz its to much of a risk to let a person who could ruin a child life free.
There are very few cases where the accused is sentenced to life prison and there are even cases where the crimes are higher then this one but those cases should be the one where they also get life prison not this one that should not.
There is not one good reason to let a guy who was in possession of child porn free unless it was something like 15-8 yers old porn that the justice system still class "child" porn in some countries or if the guy actually did not knew what he was downloading.
Its not worth the risk of this guy making something with his life to let him free and risk a child getting raped and maybe even killed resulting in him ruining a life that would most likely have been much more "productive" then his own.

Life in prison to all people who look at gore on various websites because we can't risk them going out and killing people.

Let's be safe and put people in jail for crimes they haven't commited... reminds me of a bad Tom Cruise movie...
If you honestly can't see the moral dilemma in that, I'm really glad you don't have any real political power.

On November 06 2011 15:37 Dhalphir wrote:
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On November 06 2011 15:32 Zinnwaldite wrote:
He has taken a huge shit on so many people by watching and taking pleasure in seeing children getting destroyed, and he needs to own up to that.


so many of you people don't seem to understand this.

I don't view it as a helpful way to handle things. You need to understand that.

Maybe one day we'll come close to having an ideal society but if we start giving out life sentences to people who need mental help, that's a good sign that we're not being too progressive.

Granted, some people are all about retribution and couldn't care less about running things intelligently... Maybe they weren't raised right =)...

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Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
November 06 2011 06:49 GMT
#373
This situation seems fairly complex. To make a simple statement, though. I think it's unfair. He's a twisted guy for beating off to child porn but... I don't really have anything to come after but. As soon as I said but I thought about the children in the pictures that he was wanking to. It's not their fault that people are exploiting them, these people ruin the lives of infants frequently.
He's supporting something that is absurd and disgusting. There is no arguing that. So if you're going to put him in jail for looking at pictures....... JAIL every single child rapist that is convicted, simple fix. I'm talking about jail for life to clarify.
Man up justice system.
Wishing you well.
GloryOfAiur
Profile Joined October 2011
United States127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 06:53:52
November 06 2011 06:52 GMT
#374
No since its only porn, if he did not produce or reenact it in any way. I do not mean it is not sick, I just mean that it should not be life. 5 to 20 years is good.

EDIT:
Had Mr. Vilca actually molested a child, they note, he might well have received a lighter sentence.

I actually rofld for 5 minutes when I read this.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 06:55:15
November 06 2011 06:54 GMT
#375
On November 06 2011 15:36 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Im all for harsher sentencing. I think more crimes needs much more punishment because the current ones do not detour crime.

So yay, enjoy your prison cell.

It's amazing that how people like you are basically enabling the nonsense crime bills to pass in Canada right now under the premise that crime is getting worse or that the current system fails at deterring crime when Canada is currently showing the lowest crime rate in decades.

Crime rates are down? Better put more people in prison and build more prisons.

Makes a lot of sense.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
November 06 2011 06:57 GMT
#376
On November 06 2011 15:54 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 15:36 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Im all for harsher sentencing. I think more crimes needs much more punishment because the current ones do not detour crime.

So yay, enjoy your prison cell.

It's amazing that how people like you are basically enabling the nonsense crime bills to pass in Canada right now under the premise that crime is getting worse or that the current system fails at deterring crime when Canada is currently showing the lowest crime rate in decades.

Crime rates are down? Better put more people in prison and build more prisons.

Makes a lot of sense.

It's apparently the hot political move around the world... The Victorian government is trying to do the exact same thing here in Aus. Complete idiocy.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
November 06 2011 06:57 GMT
#377
On November 06 2011 15:52 GloryOfAiur wrote:

Had Mr. Vilca actually molested a child, they note, he might well have received a lighter sentence.
I actually rofld for 5 minutes when I read this.



wait, what the actual fuck
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vivaldi290
Profile Joined March 2011
Chad19 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 07:17:21
November 06 2011 07:06 GMT
#378
The argument is that by downloading/viewing CP for free you're supporting the CP industry and the production of CP.

Then why are people also killing the movie/videogame industry when they download moives/games for free?

I think CP is nasty and they should definitely do whatever they can to go after the producers and people who pay for it, but it seems like you never hear about that, it's always the people who download it.
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
November 06 2011 07:13 GMT
#379
That is beyond gross. It is more disgusting to support this sort of punishment than the crime he committed. Rape carries less punishment than what he is getting, what is more harmful?

Somewhat side not, I actually feel bad for pedophiles, they cannot force themselves to have normal sexual tendencies so they either are labeled a monster or they cave in to their baser urges in ways that harm children (directly or indirectly). It would be hell.
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Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
November 06 2011 07:16 GMT
#380
Holy shit. Some people here need to calm down. No one is defending the fact that this sick fuck had Child Porn. Rather they're taking the implications of the ruling and stating their discomfort with its potential ramifications as it sets a precedent. What's more the punishment is disproportionate relative to other more heinous crimes.

That doesn't mean we find his activities any less disgusting or vile. Just that we're willing to look past the trees in order to see the forest.

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