I just vomited. It was completely avoidable in the first place....and then running her over....so excruciatingly slow. That wasn't an accident, it was an execution.
On October 18 2011 14:13 DarkwindHK wrote: I even see articles saying that the daughter of the old lady who helped blamed her mother for "minding other people business" and want "to be famous".
I do not know if that true but it does sounds like what a typical rural Chinese would say!
It's completely true, the rural people does say things like that often
I'm glad Blasterion is staying calm and adamant about his opinion in this thread.
It's tragic that this sort of thing happened, but honestly, I understand where he stands. Despite not being in those conditions, if I honestly was suddenly forced to choose between endangering my family's well-being to save a stranger, I'd instinctively choose to keep my family well.
That being said, if there was no risk of being sued at all, I'm sure many people would have helped as soon as they could. It's just that in the case of the child who can't shout "it's no one's fault, help me..."
IMHO, the true culprits: 1. Bullshit legislation 2. Bad parenting? Why wasn't the mother keeping an eye on her own daughter in a street where vehicles go by? 3. Bystander effect to some extent, but it really isn't possible to diagnose this one since it's buried deep within the whole '06 ruling thing.
I ask myself, what combinations of social dynamics are at play, in multitude, which would cause individuals to not assist or help a clearly injured and dying infant who is mutilated and obviously in need of immediate medical assistance. I just cannot comprehend any reasoning I am able to produce to ignore such pain and suffering and severe need for help.
On October 18 2011 13:30 TutsiRebel wrote: Anyone justifying the indifference with "the bystanders were afraid of being sued / fined" is full of shit.
I'd gladly fork over thousands in court rather than watch a little girl die, knowing I could have done something.
You think this video was disturbing to watch? Imagine seeing that in person. Unless you were one of the sick fucks in this video, that image would stay with you for the rest of your days.
I'm not going to blame the legal system over in China for this. That's bullshit. Aside from the woman who picked up that little girl, everyone in that video has blood on their hands.
Would you? I'd wager that you are a student or have lived comfortably for most of your life, not someone who has made their own path through society and has earned everything they've had. If you have, imagine losing everything as a reward for saving a person's life, living the rest of your life in dejection and bitterness against society for punishing you for doing the morally correct action. Would you still go through with that action? If so, then you are truly remarkable. I know I can't speak to the same myself.
From your name I think you are familiar with the Rwandan genocide. Now imagine that the Tutsis enforced Belgian rule because they thought it would be the best option for all the repressed Rwandans and that they knew that freedom was coming soon. How would the Tutsis react to the Rwandan genocide then?
It's a good thing you didn't bet the farm on your first wager, because you're almost completely wrong. I am a student, but I've paid for everything myself and I've earned everything I have. As for 'bitterness and dejection", I don't think I would be dejected from any society worth being a part of for helping save a little girl. Bitter? Probably, but that sure as shit beats bloodied hands. If the law could be twisted to fuck me for helping, then I'd hope CCTV took interest in my case, because I wouldn't bend over and take it. I stand up for what I believe.
As for your latter wager, I have no idea what point you're trying to make. If you're implying that the Tutsis were in any position to "enforce Belgian rule", then I don't think you're very familiar with the Rwandan Genocide.
On October 18 2011 13:52 SoKHo wrote: Lol "it may seem barbaric to us in the US".... Really? really? It happens all the freakin time in the US. Don't even act like it never happens. There was a case where a girl was getting raped in the streets and she was screaming for help. Everybody who heard her assumed the other people who also heard her were going to help. She was found dead the next day... LMAO, it's a human phenomenon, not a chinese one.
No, it doesn't.
To those bringing up the Kitty Genovese incident: she was stabbed in an alleyway where no one could see her, and it happened on a cold night in early march when everyone keeps their windows closed. Her assault and the purported "indifference" of her neighbors was sensationalized by the earliest articles, and most of the misconceptions regarding the case clearly remain to this day. The unfortunate truth is that after her initial stabbing, the only person who witnessed it thought she made it into the apartment complex and understandably did not leave the building to confront her armed assailant. Numerous calls to the police were made, but none of the callers realized she was being stabbed.
Probably, but that sure as shit beats bloodied hands. If the law could be twisted to fuck me for helping, then I'd hope CCTV took interest in my case, because I wouldn't bend over and take it. I stand up for what I believe.
I think you're a good person, it's just that in a country like China it really could get you into a lot of trouble if you apply your morals in the same way because of a retarded law.
Also...your CCTV comment doesn't seem to sound that you realize that there is no free media in China...if the right person wants you dead and silenced, you will be and no one would give a fuck. That's how it works.
On October 18 2011 13:35 Kaiyotic wrote: I wouldn't put it past the courts to "reason" that if you stopped driving to make an emergency call, you probably caused the accident. Not that it makes it right to not call, just something to think about.
The legal problem in this situation is not straightforward at all. In the US, and most western countries, you can generally count on due process and rule by law: You'll be tried with the same laws in the same way as everyone else. You cannot assume that in mainland China. The judges can do basically whatever they like, with no real check to their power. Your video evidence? Not likely to make a difference if the judge has already decided how to rule-- there's a reason a courtroom is one of the scariest places to be in mainland China. And something about lawyers: defense lawyers regularly get intimidated by the CCP when they take on a controversial case. There are probably hundreds of thousands of lawyers; how many are going to stand up to the party and risk being imprisoned or "disappeared"? Even they are doing the right thing, they won't be doing it for much longer. The Constitution itself states that you have rights...until the government takes them away (Article 51, for those who want to check).
There's no redress of grievances. Someone mentioned that half a billion signatures on a petition would change things. I wanted to laugh at the absurdity of this, and cry at how depressing it is. A petition in China can often be little more than a list of people the government targets next. Hence the "mind your own business" mentality.
Part of it is just the class problem in the mainland. My family's from Taiwan, but we visit China often enough. The first thing my parents tell me when we get to the airport? Don't trust anyone you don't know. There are a lot of poor people in China, desperate for money, who prey upon people who are overly generous, overly trusting-- it's not unheard of to be kidnapped when you try to help someone, though obviously that wasn't the case here. This is the environment you live in. Add in the fact that the 2006 precedent scares the crap out of the altruists who are left, it's almost surprising anyone steps in to help anyone anymore. I agree with Blasterion's point here; of course it would be morally right to help the girl, but you can't know what the risk is to yourself. In the most perverse interpretation, if you walked and saw the girl lying there, you could think that she was faking it to bait you into helping her before someone else abducts you for ransom; a longshot, for sure, but not beyond possibility-- which is truly scary. (If you think that her injuries couldn't possibly be faked, remember what China is known for. The blindings like in Slumdog Millionaire still happen, and sometimes it's not just eyes you lose.)
I can't say that I would help the girl out even if I walk past; I'd probably report the emergency and walk away, because there's not much more you can do without exposing yourself to harm or costs that could ruin you and all of your relatives.
If you want me to say who's a fault, it's clear: the truck drivers and the system. It's tragic that this occurs, but understand why people don't help: there's a real threat of financial and bodily harm.
I'm aware that CCTV is state controlled media, but I see your point that the chinese government probably doesn't want its citizens rocking the boat. And if kaiyotic's description of the Chinese court system is on the money, (I'm in no position to tell, I've never traveled to China) then holy living fuck, that's frightening. Nevertheless, I think the worst any would-be Chinese Samaritan would have to face is perhaps wage garnishment to pay for medical bills. No amount of yuan would keep me or most of the people I know from helping in that situation.
If China wants its perception in the west to ever improve, this shit needs to change.
Its honestly the stuff like this that annoy me beyond anything else in these threads, not a single person is claiming that China doesn't have problems, but there's no possible way to claim moral high ground and cry against things like state-controlled media and corrupt government elsewhere while failing to see things like
don't even try to claim that similar things don't happen in America I'm sorry, turning a blind eye is one thing, but stopping, flipping the man over, then taking a picture with your phone before walking away is almost as morally depraved as making sure somebody's dead
On October 18 2011 14:10 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote: --------------
Ok....where to start...
This is my opinion.
It is without a doubt very disgusting. Just....speechless, I agree with that.
Having said that, I decided to do a little more research. I saw the video last night, and I decided to research more. What I found was that this stuff didn't only happen in China, but in other countries as well. I learned about Kitty Genovese, and others (just look at the video up there that Kupon3ss posted).
And, looking at today's perspective, it is easy for people to just simply bash the Chinese simply because the Chinese people are known to be ruthless, heartless, no emotions, etc. Because this poor toddler scenario happened in China, people try to expose and bash as much as they can about China, whereas if this happened in ANY other country as long as its not China, they will try to minimize the exposure and try to forget everything.
So in the end, this has gained popularity so quickly because it happened in China, if it happened in any other countries, I'm sure it would not be as popular as it is now.
Sure, Chinese people are renowned to be like that, but do you seriously think every single human being in China is like that?
The problem, as with ANY other problem in this world, is human HEART or personality. You can be Chinese and help others, and you can be non-Chinese and not help. It is not the race, it is the human heart.
Having said that, remember what i said above. Let's pick an action, any action. Jumping, for example. If a Chinese person jumps, it will be considered to be bad, annoying, basically all sorts of negative things. However, when a non-Chinese person (preferably White person) does the EXACT same action (jumping), it will be considered to be normal.
I will end this post by saying that yes, it was a nightmare to see that, but remember that this thing can happen everywhere. And the reason why it is so popular is because it happened in China, not other countries.
Peace, God bless you all
I have a video to back this up
In the end the two black good people finally helped the girl. Just show some love everyone, help each other
I watched this the other night on reddit and could not watch after i saw the second vehicle approaching.. so saddening. Even more surprised to see this video up on perthnow.com which is a local news site. Vid made me so sad that people can just walk past and do nothing....
On October 18 2011 13:30 TutsiRebel wrote: Anyone justifying the indifference with "the bystanders were afraid of being sued / fined" is full of shit.
I'd gladly fork over thousands in court rather than watch a little girl die, knowing I could have done something.
You think this video was disturbing to watch? Imagine seeing that in person. Unless you were one of the sick fucks in this video, that image would stay with you for the rest of your days.
I'm not going to blame the legal system over in China for this. That's bullshit. Aside from the woman who picked up that little girl, everyone in that video has blood on their hands.
Would you? I'd wager that you are a student or have lived comfortably for most of your life, not someone who has made their own path through society and has earned everything they've had. If you have, imagine losing everything as a reward for saving a person's life, living the rest of your life in dejection and bitterness against society for punishing you for doing the morally correct action. Would you still go through with that action? If so, then you are truly remarkable. I know I can't speak to the same myself.
From your name I think you are familiar with the Rwandan genocide. Now imagine that the Tutsis enforced Belgian rule because they thought it would be the best option for all the repressed Rwandans and that they knew that freedom was coming soon. How would the Tutsis react to the Rwandan genocide then?
It's a good thing you didn't bet the farm on your first wager, because you're almost completely wrong. I am a student, but I've paid for everything myself and I've earned everything I have. As for 'bitterness and dejection", I don't think I would be dejected from any society worth being a part of for helping save a little girl. Bitter? Probably, but that sure as shit beats bloodied hands. If the law could be twisted to fuck me for helping, then I'd hope CCTV took interest in my case, because I wouldn't bend over and take it. I stand up for what I believe.
As for your latter wager, I have no idea what point you're trying to make. If you're implying that the Tutsis were in any position to "enforce Belgian rule", then I don't think you're very familiar with the Rwandan Genocide.
On October 18 2011 13:52 SoKHo wrote: Lol "it may seem barbaric to us in the US".... Really? really? It happens all the freakin time in the US. Don't even act like it never happens. There was a case where a girl was getting raped in the streets and she was screaming for help. Everybody who heard her assumed the other people who also heard her were going to help. She was found dead the next day... LMAO, it's a human phenomenon, not a chinese one.
No, it doesn't.
To those bringing up the Kitty Genovese incident: she was stabbed in an alleyway where no one could see her, and it happened on a cold night in early march when everyone keeps their windows closed. Her assault and the purported "indifference" of her neighbors was sensationalized by the earliest articles, and most of the misconceptions regarding the case clearly remain to this day. The unfortunate truth is that after her initial stabbing, the only person who witnessed it thought she made it into the apartment complex and understandably did not leave the building to confront her armed assailant. Numerous calls to the police were made, but none of the callers realized she was being stabbed.
On October 18 2011 14:03 RavenLoud wrote:
On October 18 2011 13:57 TutsiRebel wrote:
Probably, but that sure as shit beats bloodied hands. If the law could be twisted to fuck me for helping, then I'd hope CCTV took interest in my case, because I wouldn't bend over and take it. I stand up for what I believe.
I think you're a good person, it's just that in a country like China it really could get you into a lot of trouble if you apply your morals in the same way because of a retarded law.
Also...your CCTV comment doesn't seem to sound that you realize that there is no free media in China...if the right person wants you dead and silenced, you will be and no one would give a fuck. That's how it works.
On October 18 2011 13:35 Kaiyotic wrote: I wouldn't put it past the courts to "reason" that if you stopped driving to make an emergency call, you probably caused the accident. Not that it makes it right to not call, just something to think about.
The legal problem in this situation is not straightforward at all. In the US, and most western countries, you can generally count on due process and rule by law: You'll be tried with the same laws in the same way as everyone else. You cannot assume that in mainland China. The judges can do basically whatever they like, with no real check to their power. Your video evidence? Not likely to make a difference if the judge has already decided how to rule-- there's a reason a courtroom is one of the scariest places to be in mainland China. And something about lawyers: defense lawyers regularly get intimidated by the CCP when they take on a controversial case. There are probably hundreds of thousands of lawyers; how many are going to stand up to the party and risk being imprisoned or "disappeared"? Even they are doing the right thing, they won't be doing it for much longer. The Constitution itself states that you have rights...until the government takes them away (Article 51, for those who want to check).
There's no redress of grievances. Someone mentioned that half a billion signatures on a petition would change things. I wanted to laugh at the absurdity of this, and cry at how depressing it is. A petition in China can often be little more than a list of people the government targets next. Hence the "mind your own business" mentality.
Part of it is just the class problem in the mainland. My family's from Taiwan, but we visit China often enough. The first thing my parents tell me when we get to the airport? Don't trust anyone you don't know. There are a lot of poor people in China, desperate for money, who prey upon people who are overly generous, overly trusting-- it's not unheard of to be kidnapped when you try to help someone, though obviously that wasn't the case here. This is the environment you live in. Add in the fact that the 2006 precedent scares the crap out of the altruists who are left, it's almost surprising anyone steps in to help anyone anymore. I agree with Blasterion's point here; of course it would be morally right to help the girl, but you can't know what the risk is to yourself. In the most perverse interpretation, if you walked and saw the girl lying there, you could think that she was faking it to bait you into helping her before someone else abducts you for ransom; a longshot, for sure, but not beyond possibility-- which is truly scary. (If you think that her injuries couldn't possibly be faked, remember what China is known for. The blindings like in Slumdog Millionaire still happen, and sometimes it's not just eyes you lose.)
I can't say that I would help the girl out even if I walk past; I'd probably report the emergency and walk away, because there's not much more you can do without exposing yourself to harm or costs that could ruin you and all of your relatives.
If you want me to say who's a fault, it's clear: the truck drivers and the system. It's tragic that this occurs, but understand why people don't help: there's a real threat of financial and bodily harm.
I'm aware that CCTV is state controlled media, but I see your point that the chinese government probably doesn't want its citizens rocking the boat. And if kaiyotic's description of the Chinese court system is on the money, (I'm in no position to tell, I've never traveled to China) then holy living fuck, that's frightening. Nevertheless, I think the worst any would-be Chinese Samaritan would have to face is perhaps wage garnishment to pay for medical bills. No amount of yuan would keep me or most of the people I know from helping in that situation.
If China wants its perception in the west to ever improve, this shit needs to change.
Its honestly the stuff like this that annoy me beyond anything else in these threads, not a single person is claiming that China doesn't have problems, but there's no possible way to claim moral high ground and cry against things like state-controlled media and corrupt government elsewhere while failing to see things like
don't even try to claim that similar things don't happen in America I'm sorry, turning a blind eye is one thing, but stopping, flipping the man over, then taking a picture with your phone before walking away is almost as morally depraved as making sure somebody's dead
I don't give a shit if it annoys you. I am going to claim "moral high ground" over the people in the video because... I have morals.
Keep digging up vids, cause I can too
Read my post again. I never claimed that this sort of bystander indifference never happens--but the assertion that "It happens all the freaking time in the US" is horse shit.
On October 18 2011 13:30 TutsiRebel wrote: Anyone justifying the indifference with "the bystanders were afraid of being sued / fined" is full of shit.
I'd gladly fork over thousands in court rather than watch a little girl die, knowing I could have done something.
You think this video was disturbing to watch? Imagine seeing that in person. Unless you were one of the sick fucks in this video, that image would stay with you for the rest of your days.
I'm not going to blame the legal system over in China for this. That's bullshit. Aside from the woman who picked up that little girl, everyone in that video has blood on their hands.
Would you? I'd wager that you are a student or have lived comfortably for most of your life, not someone who has made their own path through society and has earned everything they've had. If you have, imagine losing everything as a reward for saving a person's life, living the rest of your life in dejection and bitterness against society for punishing you for doing the morally correct action. Would you still go through with that action? If so, then you are truly remarkable. I know I can't speak to the same myself.
From your name I think you are familiar with the Rwandan genocide. Now imagine that the Tutsis enforced Belgian rule because they thought it would be the best option for all the repressed Rwandans and that they knew that freedom was coming soon. How would the Tutsis react to the Rwandan genocide then?
It's a good thing you didn't bet the farm on your first wager, because you're almost completely wrong. I am a student, but I've paid for everything myself and I've earned everything I have. As for 'bitterness and dejection", I don't think I would be dejected from any society worth being a part of for helping save a little girl. Bitter? Probably, but that sure as shit beats bloodied hands. If the law could be twisted to fuck me for helping, then I'd hope CCTV took interest in my case, because I wouldn't bend over and take it. I stand up for what I believe.
As for your latter wager, I have no idea what point you're trying to make. If you're implying that the Tutsis were in any position to "enforce Belgian rule", then I don't think you're very familiar with the Rwandan Genocide.
On October 18 2011 13:52 SoKHo wrote: Lol "it may seem barbaric to us in the US".... Really? really? It happens all the freakin time in the US. Don't even act like it never happens. There was a case where a girl was getting raped in the streets and she was screaming for help. Everybody who heard her assumed the other people who also heard her were going to help. She was found dead the next day... LMAO, it's a human phenomenon, not a chinese one.
No, it doesn't.
To those bringing up the Kitty Genovese incident: she was stabbed in an alleyway where no one could see her, and it happened on a cold night in early march when everyone keeps their windows closed. Her assault and the purported "indifference" of her neighbors was sensationalized by the earliest articles, and most of the misconceptions regarding the case clearly remain to this day. The unfortunate truth is that after her initial stabbing, the only person who witnessed it thought she made it into the apartment complex and understandably did not leave the building to confront her armed assailant. Numerous calls to the police were made, but none of the callers realized she was being stabbed.
On October 18 2011 14:03 RavenLoud wrote:
On October 18 2011 13:57 TutsiRebel wrote:
Probably, but that sure as shit beats bloodied hands. If the law could be twisted to fuck me for helping, then I'd hope CCTV took interest in my case, because I wouldn't bend over and take it. I stand up for what I believe.
I think you're a good person, it's just that in a country like China it really could get you into a lot of trouble if you apply your morals in the same way because of a retarded law.
Also...your CCTV comment doesn't seem to sound that you realize that there is no free media in China...if the right person wants you dead and silenced, you will be and no one would give a fuck. That's how it works.
On October 18 2011 13:35 Kaiyotic wrote: I wouldn't put it past the courts to "reason" that if you stopped driving to make an emergency call, you probably caused the accident. Not that it makes it right to not call, just something to think about.
The legal problem in this situation is not straightforward at all. In the US, and most western countries, you can generally count on due process and rule by law: You'll be tried with the same laws in the same way as everyone else. You cannot assume that in mainland China. The judges can do basically whatever they like, with no real check to their power. Your video evidence? Not likely to make a difference if the judge has already decided how to rule-- there's a reason a courtroom is one of the scariest places to be in mainland China. And something about lawyers: defense lawyers regularly get intimidated by the CCP when they take on a controversial case. There are probably hundreds of thousands of lawyers; how many are going to stand up to the party and risk being imprisoned or "disappeared"? Even they are doing the right thing, they won't be doing it for much longer. The Constitution itself states that you have rights...until the government takes them away (Article 51, for those who want to check).
There's no redress of grievances. Someone mentioned that half a billion signatures on a petition would change things. I wanted to laugh at the absurdity of this, and cry at how depressing it is. A petition in China can often be little more than a list of people the government targets next. Hence the "mind your own business" mentality.
Part of it is just the class problem in the mainland. My family's from Taiwan, but we visit China often enough. The first thing my parents tell me when we get to the airport? Don't trust anyone you don't know. There are a lot of poor people in China, desperate for money, who prey upon people who are overly generous, overly trusting-- it's not unheard of to be kidnapped when you try to help someone, though obviously that wasn't the case here. This is the environment you live in. Add in the fact that the 2006 precedent scares the crap out of the altruists who are left, it's almost surprising anyone steps in to help anyone anymore. I agree with Blasterion's point here; of course it would be morally right to help the girl, but you can't know what the risk is to yourself. In the most perverse interpretation, if you walked and saw the girl lying there, you could think that she was faking it to bait you into helping her before someone else abducts you for ransom; a longshot, for sure, but not beyond possibility-- which is truly scary. (If you think that her injuries couldn't possibly be faked, remember what China is known for. The blindings like in Slumdog Millionaire still happen, and sometimes it's not just eyes you lose.)
I can't say that I would help the girl out even if I walk past; I'd probably report the emergency and walk away, because there's not much more you can do without exposing yourself to harm or costs that could ruin you and all of your relatives.
If you want me to say who's a fault, it's clear: the truck drivers and the system. It's tragic that this occurs, but understand why people don't help: there's a real threat of financial and bodily harm.
I'm aware that CCTV is state controlled media, but I see your point that the chinese government probably doesn't want its citizens rocking the boat. And if kaiyotic's description of the Chinese court system is on the money, (I'm in no position to tell, I've never traveled to China) then holy living fuck, that's frightening. Nevertheless, I think the worst any would-be Chinese Samaritan would have to face is perhaps wage garnishment to pay for medical bills. No amount of yuan would keep me or most of the people I know from helping in that situation.
If China wants its perception in the west to ever improve, this shit needs to change.
Its honestly the stuff like this that annoy me beyond anything else in these threads, not a single person is claiming that China doesn't have problems, but there's no possible way to claim moral high ground and cry against things like state-controlled media and corrupt government elsewhere while failing to see things like
don't even try to claim that similar things don't happen in America I'm sorry, turning a blind eye is one thing, but stopping, flipping the man over, then taking a picture with your phone before walking away is almost as morally depraved as making sure somebody's dead
I don't give a shit if it annoys you. I am going to claim "moral high ground" over the people in the video because... I have morals.
Inspirational videos are fantastic and a good change of pace to the morbid topic here, but please don't make ignorant claims like "no, that doesn't happen here"
There isn't anything to be said that hasn't already, but this bears repeating:
This is disgusting and depressing.
Tolerance of this kind of indifference is clearly a serious problem. Because of its extreme nature, I hope this case stands as a lesson to the Chinese people and the world at large on the importance of helping those in need. I'm not one to espouse an objective morality, but fear of financial or legal repercussions should not have this kind of power over people nor should it enshrine this kind of widespread cultural desensitization. I happen to think it's a fundamental principle of human decency to show compassion for someone in danger of serious harm or death, let alone a toddler.
That not just one, but 18 or so people, were able to walk by a child dying in a pool of her own blood is a testament to an extremely dysfunctional aspect of any given culture. Yes, it could have happened anywhere else in the world, but wherever it happens, it's a problem for that society. I really hope this doesn't get swept away as another sad case of bystanders acting indifferently. I'll be interested to see how China deals with this specific case, as it's an opportunity to address the problem. At the very least, it could be held up as China's own "Kitty Genovese." Widespread awareness of the case alone is a good start, I suppose.
Im not sure if I'd compare this with other bystander effects. Obviously that chinese 06 Court Case has a big deal to do with this, so there's more to talk about in this video than "Oh that happens everywhere"
On October 18 2011 14:38 HawaiianPig wrote: There isn't anything to be said that hasn't already, but this bears repeating:
This is disgusting and depressing.
Tolerance of this kind of indifference is clearly a serious problem. Because of its extreme nature, I hope this case stands as a lesson to the Chinese people and the world at large on the importance of helping those in need. I'm not one to espouse an objective morality, but fear of financial or legal repercussions should not have this kind of power over people nor should it enshrine this kind of widespread cultural desensitization. I happen to think it's a fundamental principle of human decency to show compassion for someone in danger of serious harm or death, let alone a toddler.
That not just one, but 18 or so people, were able to walk by a child dying in a pool of her own blood is a testament to an extremely dysfunctional aspect of any given culture. Yes, it could have happened anywhere else in the world, but wherever it happens, it's a problem for that society. I really hope this doesn't get swept away as another sad case of bystanders acting indifferently. I'll be interested to see how China deals with this.
Indeed, that's actually one of the amazing things about the Chinese people, the fundamental Confucian values are certainly still in the back of the minds of the people and culture, just look at the backlash and outrage this tragedy has invoked shows that people aren't really like that and things like this aren't just swept under the rug because they're depressing and don't garner the ratings that a story on celebrity nude photos would
I just can't imagine. That's the saddest thing I've ever heard. Poor child.
It makes me think what I'd do. We all say that we'd help, or at least feel we would. You'd think that the goodness of most people seeing that would help, regardless of the consequence. I can' imagine how that would feel, to see that and feel so torn about saving yourself or the poor kid.
I honestly hope I'd be the one to help. The only thing that makes me doubt is the fact that nobody else did.
EPT
