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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
January 11 2013 05:52 GMT
#1601
a lot of dating advice would just be to be comfortable with yourself imo. be confident with who you are and have ur shit handled financially , emotionally etc. Also know what u want out of a relationship. dont have much else to add , fairly noob lolz
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Metalreflux
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States165 Posts
January 12 2013 06:56 GMT
#1602
On October 09 2011 15:59 dAPhREAk wrote:
maybe its because you call them bitches?


I have never refered to a woman as a bitch to their face before, and my real life conflicts that I have with others I've never insulted them to make a point or to make them feel bad, i.e. calling a woman a bitch, whore, slut, prossy, etc.
Metalreflux
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States165 Posts
January 12 2013 06:57 GMT
#1603
On January 11 2013 14:52 HeavOnEarth wrote:
a lot of dating advice would just be to be comfortable with yourself imo. be confident with who you are and have ur shit handled financially , emotionally etc. Also know what u want out of a relationship. dont have much else to add , fairly noob lolz


Don't you have any stories to share about maybe a bad date? Or maybe of one where it all went right?
boroty
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland11 Posts
January 12 2013 07:43 GMT
#1604
Why date? Just enjoy yourself, and be yourself. Girls will come and some will stay longer than others. The dating game brings to much stress, because it's exactly that: a game. You're interactions with others, including the opposite sex, should be genuine. If you both want to be together you'll do it without any of this dating nonsense. Also makes for less drama, which should be a high priority for anyone in high school/university. Anyways good luck.

Also, learning a second language is super helpful. I love french girls and they love me because I'm an American that speaks their language. Regardless, it opens you up to a whole new block of people you can get to know.
Never get in a 'who's cooler' battle with Julian Casablancas
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
January 12 2013 08:04 GMT
#1605
On January 12 2013 15:56 Metalreflux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 15:59 dAPhREAk wrote:
maybe its because you call them bitches?


I have never refered to a woman as a bitch to their face before, and my real life conflicts that I have with others I've never insulted them to make a point or to make them feel bad, i.e. calling a woman a bitch, whore, slut, prossy, etc.

This is probably more of a problem then a good thing. The #1 thing you need with women is your confidence in yourself. It will help your sense of humor actually seem funny. If you can't call a girl a bitch or 99% of other names (i wouldn't recommend cunt early on) and have them know that you aren't serious about them being that name, you are probably not acting comfortable around them, and therefore they will be more uncomfortable around you

TLDR; Call women bitches, but dont be rude
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
January 12 2013 08:04 GMT
#1606
The best advice I can give is to not get caught up in some fantasy of how the date should go. In my mind the perfect first date is meeting up for dinner and then having options, maybe three things, to choose from for after. Im gay so the rules are different for these activities but giving your partner a choice without the pressure of coming up with the idea is always good (even in established relationships).

Also it is my opinion that a movie should never be a first date activity. There is so much important ground on the first date that sitting in silence for two hours followed by an hour long critique does not cover.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 08:15:02
January 12 2013 08:14 GMT
#1607
Finding "that girl" is arguably one of the most important/best things that will happen to your life. That is why it can also be the worst thing that can happen. My advice is: GO FOR IT! and try not to fuck up
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
January 12 2013 08:15 GMT
#1608
On January 12 2013 17:04 Velocirapture wrote:
The best advice I can give is to not get caught up in some fantasy of how the date should go. In my mind the perfect first date is meeting up for dinner and then having options, maybe three things, to choose from for after. Im gay so the rules are different for these activities but giving your partner a choice without the pressure of coming up with the idea is always good (even in established relationships).

Also it is my opinion that a movie should never be a first date activity. There is so much important ground on the first date that sitting in silence for two hours followed by an hour long critique does not cover.


Good advice, gay or not.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
AlphaWhale
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia328 Posts
January 12 2013 08:49 GMT
#1609
On January 09 2013 10:51 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 09:38 Mikau wrote:

To summarize, I think most of my problems are me overthinking and overcomplicating things. As far as I know though, fixing that isn't as simple as simply stopping it. As much as I'd like to sometimes, I can't turn off my brain. What I can and should though, is improving other areas and hoping the rest comes naturally.


To the 20-something guys that are bummed out ...

One thing that helped me get over my dating anxiety is realizing that it's not all about me.

Let's say you ask a girl out for coffee, and they say no. It might be because they're not your type. But it also might be because they had a crappy day and don't want to deal with anybody, or they just got out of a relationship, or they are still sort of in a relationship, or they are obsessed with this one guy at work already that unfortunately isn't you.

Or maybe they're just fucking nuts, have horrible taste and you're better off.

There are a million reasons why someone might not go out with you, that have nothing to do with YOU.

Focus on doing things you want to do, take pride in those things, and plant seeds ("Can I buy you a cup of coffee?") until you've figured out the kinds of girls that are fertile ground for you.

And don't raise the stakes by building up your expectations, on other people or yourself. So what if someone, guy or girl, doesn't want to have coffee with you? It's just a cup of coffee.

Physics, eh? There aren't that many girls into physics. But there are girls that hate meatheads and are interested in brainy, studious guys. I vote that you should just keep doing your thing.




Highlighted an often overlooked factor. Remember! A good set of birthing hips are just as crucial as compatibility!
The icon for diamond league is actually a sapphire.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
January 12 2013 17:15 GMT
#1610
On January 12 2013 15:57 Metalreflux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 14:52 HeavOnEarth wrote:
a lot of dating advice would just be to be comfortable with yourself imo. be confident with who you are and have ur shit handled financially , emotionally etc. Also know what u want out of a relationship. dont have much else to add , fairly noob lolz


Don't you have any stories to share about maybe a bad date? Or maybe of one where it all went right?

ive never actually been on a real date LOL 8D
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 17:44:36
January 12 2013 17:43 GMT
#1611
On January 13 2013 02:15 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 15:57 Metalreflux wrote:
On January 11 2013 14:52 HeavOnEarth wrote:
a lot of dating advice would just be to be comfortable with yourself imo. be confident with who you are and have ur shit handled financially , emotionally etc. Also know what u want out of a relationship. dont have much else to add , fairly noob lolz


Don't you have any stories to share about maybe a bad date? Or maybe of one where it all went right?

ive never actually been on a real date LOL 8D


No crazy sex stories? Or none of that either? I don't care. I was a virgin 'til I was 20. I haven't slept with more than 10 women, and I'm actually proud of that. I don't think count matters at all, because it's quality over quantity. For instance, every single guy I know with a high count has banged a fatty... I have never. I feel that justifies my position.

I once nailed a stripper, while getting a lap dance in a strip club. I thought for sure I had the AIDS afterward, or at least gonorrhea. Luckily, I didn't catch anything. It was a pretty wild night though. There's more to that story, but I'm feeling lazy, at the moment.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 19:04:42
January 12 2013 18:36 GMT
#1612
well me and my ex kinda just bumped into each other skipping class. we didnt rly even talk she just followed me around haha. explored our school , found various ladders , one to the roof of a boiler room , other the catwalk with a boiler room inside alongside with various grade reports, confidential information etc which we got caught and sent to caep for, she was rly sad when that happened so i told her i loved her and there u go. hahaha dateless romance

i used to do corny shit like picnics with a tub of ice cream and some music , or go around our neighborhood petting cats with her. pretty baller imo

def have cray sex stories tho , shit went down after she dumped me. ill keep em to myself tho lol. have a feeling not everyone is Bi as well

mannn that reminds me anyone ever fuck on e ? all i remember is awesomeness
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Tolazytobecreative
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany17 Posts
January 12 2013 19:30 GMT
#1613
Alright is it the-biggest-loser-time?

-23
-male
-virgin
-never been on a date
-never kissed a girl
-never hold hands with a girl
-never hugged a girl that wasnt a relative
-never had a female friend
-never been to a party for over 2 years
-been on 2 parties on my entire life
-there are literally 10 year olds with more experience than me

Funny part is I am not even ugly or something. I go to uni I am a perfectly normal person, I work out 2-3 times a week etc. Yet I have not even hugged a girl once in my life.

So yeah my luck in dating is pretty good I suppose...

+ Show Spoiler +
Well at least I got into gm league thanks to my lack of social life
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
January 12 2013 19:33 GMT
#1614
On January 13 2013 03:36 HeavOnEarth wrote:
well me and my ex kinda just bumped into each other skipping class. we didnt rly even talk she just followed me around haha. explored our school , found various ladders , one to the roof of a boiler room , other the catwalk with a boiler room inside alongside with various grade reports, confidential information etc which we got caught and sent to caep for, she was rly sad when that happened so i told her i loved her and there u go. hahaha dateless romance

i used to do corny shit like picnics with a tub of ice cream and some music , or go around our neighborhood petting cats with her. pretty baller imo

def have cray sex stories tho , shit went down after she dumped me. ill keep em to myself tho lol. have a feeling not everyone is Bi as well

mannn that reminds me anyone ever fuck on e ? all i remember is awesomeness

don't fuck on e. If you do it, you have to use E every time to get any similar feeling since e makes you hornier and feel more intensely. A druggie girl I knew from a cruise told me that, nice girl, didn't get any from her, and in hindsight that was probably a good thing LOL.
User was warned for too many mimes.
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
January 12 2013 19:50 GMT
#1615
On January 13 2013 04:30 Tolazytobecreative wrote:
Alright is it the-biggest-loser-time?

-23
-male
-virgin
-never been on a date
-never kissed a girl
-never hold hands with a girl
-never hugged a girl that wasnt a relative
-never had a female friend
-never been to a party for over 2 years
-been on 2 parties on my entire life
-there are literally 10 year olds with more experience than me

Funny part is I am not even ugly or something. I go to uni I am a perfectly normal person, I work out 2-3 times a week etc. Yet I have not even hugged a girl once in my life.

So yeah my luck in dating is pretty good I suppose...

+ Show Spoiler +
Well at least I got into gm league thanks to my lack of social life


I work with a 36 year old with a very similar story, minus gm league.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
IsraeL
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom172 Posts
January 12 2013 19:56 GMT
#1616
wow
IsraeL
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom172 Posts
January 12 2013 19:57 GMT
#1617
On January 13 2013 04:30 Tolazytobecreative wrote:
Alright is it the-biggest-loser-time?

-23
-male
-virgin
-never been on a date
-never kissed a girl
-never hold hands with a girl
-never hugged a girl that wasnt a relative
-never had a female friend
-never been to a party for over 2 years
-been on 2 parties on my entire life
-there are literally 10 year olds with more experience than me

Funny part is I am not even ugly or something. I go to uni I am a perfectly normal person, I work out 2-3 times a week etc. Yet I have not even hugged a girl once in my life.

So yeah my luck in dating is pretty good I suppose...

+ Show Spoiler +
Well at least I got into gm league thanks to my lack of social life


pic?
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
January 12 2013 19:58 GMT
#1618
On January 13 2013 04:33 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 03:36 HeavOnEarth wrote:
well me and my ex kinda just bumped into each other skipping class. we didnt rly even talk she just followed me around haha. explored our school , found various ladders , one to the roof of a boiler room , other the catwalk with a boiler room inside alongside with various grade reports, confidential information etc which we got caught and sent to caep for, she was rly sad when that happened so i told her i loved her and there u go. hahaha dateless romance

i used to do corny shit like picnics with a tub of ice cream and some music , or go around our neighborhood petting cats with her. pretty baller imo

def have cray sex stories tho , shit went down after she dumped me. ill keep em to myself tho lol. have a feeling not everyone is Bi as well

mannn that reminds me anyone ever fuck on e ? all i remember is awesomeness

don't fuck on e. If you do it, you have to use E every time to get any similar feeling since e makes you hornier and feel more intensely. A druggie girl I knew from a cruise told me that, nice girl, didn't get any from her, and in hindsight that was probably a good thing LOL.

oh yeah it was a one time thing lol
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
January 12 2013 19:58 GMT
#1619
On January 13 2013 04:33 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 03:36 HeavOnEarth wrote:
well me and my ex kinda just bumped into each other skipping class. we didnt rly even talk she just followed me around haha. explored our school , found various ladders , one to the roof of a boiler room , other the catwalk with a boiler room inside alongside with various grade reports, confidential information etc which we got caught and sent to caep for, she was rly sad when that happened so i told her i loved her and there u go. hahaha dateless romance

i used to do corny shit like picnics with a tub of ice cream and some music , or go around our neighborhood petting cats with her. pretty baller imo

def have cray sex stories tho , shit went down after she dumped me. ill keep em to myself tho lol. have a feeling not everyone is Bi as well

mannn that reminds me anyone ever fuck on e ? all i remember is awesomeness

don't fuck on e. If you do it, you have to use E every time to get any similar feeling since e makes you hornier and feel more intensely. A druggie girl I knew from a cruise told me that, nice girl, didn't get any from her, and in hindsight that was probably a good thing LOL.


You can have sex on ecstasy with no complications. It does make sex feel better to the point where it's a completely different experience. However, like anything else in this world, if you have sex every time under the influence, you'll lose your concept of sober sex and then it might reach a point where you'll be constantly chasing the dragon.
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. - Goethe
Tolazytobecreative
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany17 Posts
January 12 2013 20:13 GMT
#1620
I work with a 36 year old with a very similar story, minus gm league.


Is he alone by choice or does he hate himself as much as I do hate myself?

pic?


I cant take a pic of myself I dont have a camera (is anyone honestly suprised by that?)
I can assure you I am not ugly at all though. Pretty sure I look better than average thanks to working out. I also a normal shaped face and clean skin. (though I have been told that I have a certain do-not-approach-me-look on my face)
Also I wouldnt post a pic of myself after what I have just posted about myself even if I could. I would never admit any of this outside of the internet.

Also did I mention I never took a photo in my life?

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