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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 03 2015 06:17 GMT
#14681
Well it's not Tinder, so I figure the ratio might be a bit better

Turns out she lost her phone, so game's still on I guess. Yay?
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bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
November 03 2015 13:58 GMT
#14682
Still no response. Will call her tomorrow.

In other news I had a meeting, a girl I swiped yes to this morning was there. Thank god she didn't swipe right back, would have been awkward.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
November 03 2015 14:01 GMT
#14683
Why would that have been awkward? Swiping right means approval as far as I have understood?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46243 Posts
November 03 2015 14:02 GMT
#14684
Yeah that would have been "fate" (lucky coincidence) haha ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
November 03 2015 14:18 GMT
#14685
You guys misunderstand. The point of Tinder is not to actually meet your matches, it is just to inflate the ego by getting matches and then not doing anything with them. /s
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 15:58:17
November 03 2015 15:55 GMT
#14686
On November 03 2015 22:58 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Still no response. Will call her tomorrow.

In other news I had a meeting, a girl I swiped yes to this morning was there. Thank god she didn't swipe right back, would have been awkward.

It's like when we broke up with my ex - the same night I went on tinder, obviously swipe right on every girl, like a pro (back in the day without restrictions on free account). And only after I did it I realized I swiped her right, and her friend too :D

On November 03 2015 23:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Yeah that would have been "fate" (lucky coincidence) haha ^^

It gives you people closest to you. So more like probability when 2 sad people have to use tinder to get laid
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46243 Posts
November 03 2015 15:58 GMT
#14687
On November 04 2015 00:55 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 22:58 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Still no response. Will call her tomorrow.

In other news I had a meeting, a girl I swiped yes to this morning was there. Thank god she didn't swipe right back, would have been awkward.

It's like when we broke up with my ex - the same night I went on tinder, obviously swipe right on every girl, like a pro (back in the day without restrictions on free account). And only after I did it I realized I swiped her right, and her friend too :D

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 23:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Yeah that would have been "fate" (lucky coincidence) haha ^^

It gives you people closest to you. So more like probability


In the words of Day[9], "Luck is just probability taken personally."
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 03 2015 16:02 GMT
#14688
On November 03 2015 22:58 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Still no response. Will call her tomorrow.

Just make sure you don't mention anything from the past, don't ask her why she didn't reply. Just accept it that it's normal, tell her that you'd love to take her out and work out the specifics
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
November 03 2015 17:18 GMT
#14689
On November 04 2015 01:02 LemOn wrote:
Just make sure you don't mention anything from the past, don't ask her why she didn't reply. Just accept it that it's normal, tell her that you'd love to take her out and work out the specifics

I won't. I must say though, my hopes aren't that big. It really fucks with my brain that you take this long to answer when you're the one who said to keep in touch, but you know that already .
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
November 03 2015 18:19 GMT
#14690
On November 02 2015 20:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 19:46 LemOn wrote:
On November 02 2015 04:22 Zambrah wrote:
So the date went well, talked had fun over crepes, and after it ended she said she wasnt looking for a relationship 'cause work (senior year, jobs, projects, etc. etc.) but that she'd be happy to go out on more dates so I dunno what any of this means.

She's not sure about you yet, probably is used to needy guys so she just pre-empts everyone this way.

In one sentence she told you: "I don't have time" and "Here, I'm happy to invest time in the future on multiple occasions" wink wink. So it more means that she will have a relationship only with the right guy pretty much and she doesn't know you well enough yet


I agree with that interpretation. Mixed messages imply uncertainty, so she's not yet sure what she wants to do with you. It does sound like her response was already calculated and practiced, so she's probably overly cautious about starting new relationships quickly.

I think if your next date is interesting/ surprising/ novel enough for her, she'll still be willing to go out on more dates with you to feel out the situation further.

could be this could also be exactly as she said. dont have time for a relationship doesnt mean dont have time for casual dating or whatever else.

On November 02 2015 22:55 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 19:24 LemOn wrote:1) Get busy

Failing that, and if you are insecure/needy for constant attention (you are, trust me I was there you seem to copy my pattern from some 1.5 years back ) you won't be able to have a happy stable long-term relationship anyways before you get to that state so definitely

2) Date more women

It's not annoying, I'm not sure what gave you that Idea. Just cut out texting completely besides setting up dates,(there won't be time for that as you'll always be on a date or having sex 3x per week+). Always start off with 1 date per week, give more time to girls that try harder/that you are starting to like more.

Also I don't get why you mind not setting up 100% dates

I'm pretty sure we have already gone through most of this already. I am already keeping myself busy. However, just because someone is busy, does not mean you don't have time to answer a text for meeting up. You have to take a shit at some point and at that point sending out a text shouldn't be hard, it will most likely take longer than 15 seconds for you to shit. I just don't think that 'being busy' etc is a valid excuse for taking longer than a day to answer which I guess is where we differ. I guess it has to do with that females are magical unicorns which needs to debate the situation in Syria before contemplating when she has time for another date.

Yeah I will.

Well it was mostly during my exam period I thought it would be 'annoying', maybe not as annoying as it would be time consuming.

I don't mind having to setting up all the dates at all, not sure where you got that impression. I just like mutual interest which seems to be awfully hard for me to come by.


you arent the center of everyone's universe, especially not someone who youve only gone on two dates with. plenty of people take forever to reply to spouses they've known for years. people get busy, some are actually responsible and dont text at work, dont reply right away, forget stuff. on top of that, lots of people straight up dislike texting, and she apparently told you that.


since you're not getting it with one person laying it out for you, allow me to add: you are being needy as fuck with someone you barely know, and I am sure that is what she is interpreting it on her end. She told you she doesn't like texting, you ignore it and do it anyway and get pissy when she doesn't respond.

a rule of thumb for dating or life in general: if you want a response, don't engage in a way that allows someone to ignore you. call or ask in person. unlike when she said no to your plan via text, you can instantly ask and recieve a response to what day is good for you
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bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
November 03 2015 18:52 GMT
#14691
Wow. I'm in fucking awe.

Backstory:
So I queued for a party (for this thursday) this morning for an hour or two with a few friends (weird system but whatever, it's how it works here). Snapchated with my friend (the friend of the girl I'm dating). It's really hard to get a ticket unless you queue like we did.


So to the point
She responded now, not with an answer letting me know when she is free, but instead just asked if I have any spare tickets to the party. I haven't answered her yet which is where I need help.

For me this feels like she would just be taking advantage of me. Firstly, I don't know if I have any spare tickets, we probably do but I sure as hell don't want to give her one if her asking after doing the silent treatment.


Update as I was writing:
As I write this, even more in fucking awe. She now claims she just saw my last message, however did say she was free for tomorrow. How do you not see a text for 3 days...? God damn my imaginations are running wild right now.

Not sure what to make of any of this. Will wait to send anything until someone has commented.

I'm thinking something like "Sorry, but I can't promise anything. Tomorrow works for me, name a time and you can come over here and we'll make fried bananas with ice cream."
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46243 Posts
November 03 2015 19:02 GMT
#14692
On November 04 2015 03:52 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Wow. I'm in fucking awe.

Backstory:
So I queued for a party (for this thursday) this morning for an hour or two with a few friends (weird system but whatever, it's how it works here). Snapchated with my friend (the friend of the girl I'm dating). It's really hard to get a ticket unless you queue like we did.


So to the point
She responded now, not with an answer letting me know when she is free, but instead just asked if I have any spare tickets to the party. I haven't answered her yet which is where I need help.

For me this feels like she would just be taking advantage of me. Firstly, I don't know if I have any spare tickets, we probably do but I sure as hell don't want to give her one if her asking after doing the silent treatment.


Update as I was writing:
As I write this, even more in fucking awe. She now claims she just saw my last message, however did say she was free for tomorrow. How do you not see a text for 3 days...? God damn my imaginations are running wild right now.

Not sure what to make of any of this. Will wait to send anything until someone has commented.

I'm thinking something like "Sorry, but I can't promise anything. Tomorrow works for me, name a time and you can come over here and we'll make fried bananas with ice cream."


That sounds good imo. You don't want her mooching a ticket off you and taking you for granted, and it doesn't sound like she wants to go "with you" per se. Sounds sketchy.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 19:13:45
November 03 2015 19:12 GMT
#14693
what you should do is call and say that, and finalize your date. you will 100% get an answer (or wishy washy shit which is also an answer). you will also be doing it on her terms, which will at least partially rectify you ignoring her wishes to not text.


once again you are all focused on texts blah blah blah she finally replied but not how i wanted

you explicitly went against her wishes with texts so that is your own doing. dont whine that she doesnt feel the need to respond promptly, or even about specific questions, when she straight up told you i dont like texting call me instead

alternatively, stop whining about how you dont like the frequency at which she texts, stop hitting her up, and find someone who will respond to your texts in a manner you feel is appropriate.

neither is right or wrong, but you should want to findsomeone whose views on that are closer to yours. i sincerely doubt her views on texting will change drastically and if you have a problem now youd have one in 6 months when youre both more comfortable and less worrieda bout making a good impression.
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bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 19:19:01
November 03 2015 19:16 GMT
#14694
On November 04 2015 04:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
and it doesn't sound like she wants to go "with you" per se.

I don't really care if she doesn't want to "go with me" there to be honest. I will be pre-partying with my floor hockey team so I'll be busy. However if we meet there for a moment or two that would be nice of course. But yeah, I'm think the whole thing is pretty sketchy too. What makes me think she is not mooching is that she suggested tomorrow which is before the party. If she had suggested like saturday or sunday or something it would be easier for her to cancel if she was in fact just mooching. Would be pretty weird if she were to hang out with me just to get a hold of a ticket (she would almost deserve it then for the dedication).
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
November 03 2015 19:23 GMT
#14695
On November 04 2015 04:12 QuanticHawk wrote:
what you should do is call and say that, and finalize your date. you will 100% get an answer (or wishy washy shit which is also an answer). you will also be doing it on her terms, which will at least partially rectify you ignoring her wishes to not text.


I've sent a message already. Said "I'm not sure, can't promise anything. Tomorrow is fine, mention a time when you're coming over and we'll make fried bananas with ice cream.". If she wants an answer to her question she will have to read and answer mine. However if she is wishy washy about it I'll call her.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 20:04:52
November 03 2015 20:04 GMT
#14696
On November 04 2015 04:23 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 04:12 QuanticHawk wrote:
what you should do is call and say that, and finalize your date. you will 100% get an answer (or wishy washy shit which is also an answer). you will also be doing it on her terms, which will at least partially rectify you ignoring her wishes to not text.


I've sent a message already. Said "I'm not sure, can't promise anything. Tomorrow is fine, mention a time when you're coming over and we'll make fried bananas with ice cream.". If she wants an answer to her question she will have to read and answer mine. However if she is wishy washy about it I'll call her.


Again a text instead of a call. Stop sabotaging yourself!
And really don't read too much into people not seeing texts. She probably just got other texts when she checked and didn't see yours, it happens, especially to people who don't use texts as frequently. It is the same with people who do not do much on facebook and end up not checking it for days and sometimes miss stuff even if they do log in, or reading your email then reading another one and forgetting to respond to yours. So PLEASE just don't read too much into this. Girls have to be careful, so until you make it to a relationship you are not the center of her thoughts and she is not permanently thinking about "what if that cute guy texted me even though I told him not to? Better check my phone"

- She likes you (yay)
- She wants to meet you independent of the tickets (yay)
- Since the only way to get tickets is to wait in line for hours and the party sounds like fun, I imagine pretty much anyone would ask you if you had spare ones. That doesn't mean the girl just planned to make you get her tickets the moment she saw you. If she makes you get a lot more than just tickets you should be careful, but right now it is just an acquaintance seeing the opportunity to maybe get some sweet tickets through a friend and thus asking you. Don't read too much into it at all, and if you say you have none left than that's totally reasonable and fine!
- Just try to man up next time and call her instead of texting. Right now you even run the chance that she forgets to check for texts or misses yours again (DONT read too much into that if it happens but learn from it instead and don't text). If she doesn't respond until tomorrow call her an hour or more before the time when you'd like for her to come over and invite her.

You seem to have quite the opportunity with this girl, don't mess it up Call don't text, make dates, have fun! And if the party comes up and you decide on not giving her a ticket, just invite her to go with you to the next one
Life is not fair. But that's what chocolate is for.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 21:10:43
November 03 2015 20:47 GMT
#14697
On November 04 2015 03:52 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Wow. I'm in fucking awe.

Backstory:
So I queued for a party (for this thursday) this morning for an hour or two with a few friends (weird system but whatever, it's how it works here). Snapchated with my friend (the friend of the girl I'm dating). It's really hard to get a ticket unless you queue like we did.


So to the point
She responded now, not with an answer letting me know when she is free, but instead just asked if I have any spare tickets to the party. I haven't answered her yet which is where I need help.

For me this feels like she would just be taking advantage of me. Firstly, I don't know if I have any spare tickets, we probably do but I sure as hell don't want to give her one if her asking after doing the silent treatment.


Update as I was writing:
As I write this, even more in fucking awe. She now claims she just saw my last message, however did say she was free for tomorrow. How do you not see a text for 3 days...? God damn my imaginations are running wild right now.

Not sure what to make of any of this. Will wait to send anything until someone has commented.

I'm thinking something like "Sorry, but I can't promise anything. Tomorrow works for me, name a time and you can come over here and we'll make fried bananas with ice cream."

Don't reply, instead call her, say you don't have a ticket ( I like the line "I'll get you one next time if you're good girl wink wink" nice one Fiona) And set up time when you meet tomorrow + get off the phone. Don't you dare texting again man


EDIT: NOOOO you sent already
if you do text, and she's told you that she's free that day, just tell her a time that works for you. Make sure it's the last message you need to send that doesn't require confirmation. If a girl doesn't show up, you'll only tell her to come to your place directly when you'd be there anyways or be done with her for good.

"Sure meet me at 6pm at corner of X place, see you there"! Assume she'll be there. if she can't make it, she'll let you know. Not telling a girl what you'll be doing is always great,just adds a hint of mystery and she can wonder about that/you.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 21:01:42
November 03 2015 20:52 GMT
#14698
On November 04 2015 05:04 Fi0na wrote:
You seem to have quite the opportunity with this girl, don't mess it up Call don't text, make dates, have fun! And if the party comes up and you decide on not giving her a ticket, just invite her to go with you to the next one

Thank you

I do think her not seeing the message for 3 days being BS, but I also believe that bloodwhore shouldn't care one bit.

and do

Call don't text, make dates, have fun!

This is what a core of any dating is, anything else is just the wishy washy extra stuff around (well except kids I guess. Kid's are pretty cool/important too ). If you're seeing a girl for the second time, or if you're married for 40 years.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
November 04 2015 12:46 GMT
#14699
Yep I knew it.

"I think we should cancel today. I think you're really nice and it was really fun baking with you. However, I don't think I see you in that way. I just want to be honest and go after my gut."
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-04 13:03:02
November 04 2015 13:01 GMT
#14700
On November 04 2015 21:46 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Yep I knew it.

"I think we should cancel today. I think you're really nice and it was really fun baking with you. However, I don't think I see you in that way. I just want to be honest and go after my gut."

was pretty obvious, you are being super clingy to someone you arent with
best thing ive learned is send a message be vague about plans and if they are interested they'll get back if not fuck em


think things may be going ok with me atm, randomly decided fuck it and added this friend of mines friend on fb, talked shit for a couple days met her last night and we kissed a bit and i took her home(went to pick her up from college) but i think things are going well i think.
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